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sooner88 03-17-2020, 11:01 AM I think studies show workers are actually more productive working remotely.
Definitely depends on the industry. My job is business development / sales based so when there is nowhere to meet, people are self-quarantining, etc. productivity goes out the window.
FighttheGoodFight 03-17-2020, 11:03 AM Any updates to this, especially in the OKC area? Changes in network traffic in the day with online learning plus all schools closed?
Don’t worry, Cox will still charge people for data caps and crappy service.
What a bummer of a St. Patrick's Day.
I know it is largely a manufactured occasion but lots of bars and restaurants usually make a lot of money today.
BBatesokc 03-17-2020, 11:08 AM YMCA's closing through at least 3/31.
Called and suspended my auto payments for both the YMCA and Mercy. The Y told me on the phone that you have to call to have your payments stopped. FYI.
PhiAlpha 03-17-2020, 11:09 AM Definitely depends on the industry. My job is business development / sales based so when there is nowhere to meet, people are self-quarantining, etc. productivity goes out the window.
Same.
PhiAlpha 03-17-2020, 11:09 AM What a bummer of a St. Patrick's Day.
I know it is largely a manufactured occasion but lots of bars and restaurants usually make a lot of money today.
I completely forgot it was St. Patricks day until about 20 minutes ago. Wild.
jn1780 03-17-2020, 11:34 AM Definitely depends on the industry. My job is business development / sales based so when there is nowhere to meet, people are self-quarantining, etc. productivity goes out the window.
Yep, Very little businesses affected positively by this. No one is interested in planning for the future when a good amount of our service sector economy is shut down.
Libbymin 03-17-2020, 01:09 PM This is going to hurt state and local governments too. I know for a fact that lots of restaurants are holding or cancelling sales taxes scheduled for March 20 and property taxes scheduled for March 31. The hope is that they will provide some kind of relief for this. While they may extend the due date for those taxes, there will almost certainly be many restaurants that won't make it so they won't even be paying those taxes later either.
TheTravellers 03-17-2020, 01:22 PM https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/ok-state-senate-on-lockdown-after-someone-tests-positive-for-covid-19/
Edmond Hausfrau 03-17-2020, 01:27 PM Called and suspended my auto payments for both the YMCA and Mercy. The Y told me on the phone that you have to call to have your payments stopped. FYI.
Mercy put holds on all their automatic payments. You don't have to do anything. Additionally, all members now have a 30day free access to Wellbeats online.
Mercy hospital was also one of the first to curtail visitors in their hospital. They're really trying to take care of this community.
Edmond Hausfrau 03-17-2020, 01:28 PM Duplicate
BoulderSooner 03-17-2020, 01:35 PM this is from Elliott Nelson owner of the mcnellies group (public post on facebook) it is very sobering about the future and state of the service industry
St. Patrick’s Day. Normally, this is Christmas for our company. It’s the best day of the year, both financially and in spirit. Our entire staff is at work, all 800 of us, serving thousands of people and creating memories for years to come. It’s the best of what we do.
Today is not that day. It feels more like a wake than a celebration. We will serve our last in-house diners today for an undetermined length of time. Is it 3 weeks? 3 months? We don’t know. And when we re-open, it most certainly will never be the same.
Effective tomorrow, March 18th, McNellie’s Group restaurants will be converting to take-out and delivery only for the foreseeable future. Our Dust Bowls in Tulsa, Oklahoma City, and Little Rock will be completely closed. We’re trying to decide if there’s a viable option for carry out at places like the Bull in the Alley. Please check all of our websites and social media feeds for updates and information.
The carry out effort is an attempt to help feed the community and preserve jobs, while also trying to generate any revenue possible to help satisfy our obligations. But if I’m being honest, I’m not sure it will be effective. We’re going to give it our all, but I have my doubts. And on some level, I question how long I can even ask people, in good conscience, to come to work. It’s something we’ll be evaluating every day.
I’m making the gut wrenching decision to furlough the majority of our employees tomorrow. We simply can’t afford to keep people on without revenue coming in. And those people who do stay are going to endure cuts to their salaries and hours, that’s going to make it difficult to make ends meet. We’re planning for an unknown, and have decided maintaining health insurance for the 230 people we cover, is the top priority - even those who are furloughed. To make that math work, we’re forced to choose between a lot of bad options. In talks with our federal leaders, it’s my hope there will be enhanced unemployment benefits to help people get through, and as such, it’s the best thing we can do for our employees. As of now, they’re already allowing people to be immediately eligible. Next, we need them to enhance the financial benefit. Please, contact your legislators and let them know how urgent this aid is.
Our employees, and those of our service industry peers, will need all of our kindness and help in the weeks to come. These are hardworking people who work in an often thankless industry. They are the front door of our community, the face of our cities to visitors. They are role players in the scenes of everyone’s life, helping create memories and offering comfort and respite. They’re passionate about giving great hospitality and taking care of our guests - and now, they’re going to need those guests to take care of them for a minute. Please, if you know someone that is a landlord, mortgage banker, or creditor to people in the service industry, ask them to do all they can to help people through. Other states are asking for relief on rents, mortgage payments, and utilities, and we need to do the same.
As a business, we’re going to rely heavily on the grace of our landlords, banks, and vendors. We’re going to need help from the federal government. We’re going to try to re-emerge and re-start our business in a state that is likely to be decimated by plunging oil prices. It’s going to be a long road back.
Yet, I have been humbled so far by everyone’s efforts. People have offered to go without pay if it meant saving someone else’s job. No one even balked when I said we might need to reduce salaries to make it through. I’ve received countless text messages and calls of support from members of the community. There is hope, and a spirit within our company that will not be deterred. We didn’t ask for or cause this challenge, but we will rise to meet it. We will do all we can to help others along the way. And at some point, we’ll have that party with all 800 of us pulling in the same direction.
Until then, St. Patrick of Ireland, pray for us.
BBatesokc 03-17-2020, 01:36 PM Mercy put holds on all their automatic payments. You don't have to do anything. Additionally, all members now have a 30day free access to Wellbeats online.
Mercy hospital was also one of the first to curtail visitors in their hospital. They're really trying to take care of this community.
That wasn't their (Mercy's) initial plan. They first sent a letter to members telling them they would remain open, but that any member could put their membership on hold for free. Then, less than 24-hours later they decided to close and simply offered to credit members on the back end - which is ridiculous and totally self-serving. Myself and others called and were told they were offering the credit now and not the free hold. They then reversed that a few hours later and agreed to do both. However, they didn't convey that to their staff answering the phones and they continued to tell members they were not sure what they were going to do. They now apparently have it all straightened out.
I personally wish they would have stayed open. Fortunately, I've found a smaller gym that is staying open.
CloudDeckMedia 03-17-2020, 01:46 PM Spoke with a banker yesterday - a customer had just told them, “Good morning. I’m closing my store. Come get your stuff.”
mugofbeer 03-17-2020, 01:56 PM That number is a testament of no leadership. The administration is culpable after refusing WHO test kits and then making test kits that yielded suspect results.
Per CDC, the WHO kits were not reliable and giving false readings so they decided to wait for more reliable kits. Then the first of those proved to not be acceptably reliable.
sooner88 03-17-2020, 02:23 PM Spoke with a banker yesterday - a customer had just told them, “Good morning. I’m closing my store. Come get your stuff.”
That customer had to been having major problems prior to this, especially considering that most banks will work with their customers during extraordinary circumstances. Unfortunately this is not going to be an uncommon theme moving forward, there will need to be patience and forgiveness from the financial institutions to ensure our local economies survive.
Bars, gyms, theaters ordered to close, restaurants to serve only take-out or delivery, with modified state of emergency in Oklahoma City
Post Date:03/17/2020 2:20 PM
Oklahoma City Mayor David Holt announced Tuesday he will modify the proclamation of a state of emergency to order all bars, gyms and theaters to close, and restaurants to serve only take-out or delivery food, until April 12.
The announcement is to help limit the spread of COVID-19 (the new coronavirus) in Oklahoma City. Public health officials say it’s critically important to limit social interactions, which will slow the rate of infection and ensure people who are sick receive the best possible care.
“Public health officials tell me this is the most serious pandemic our community has faced in the last half-century,” said Mayor Holt. “The loss of life in Oklahoma City would be profound if we did nothing.”
Get the latest local COVID-19 updates at covid19.okc.gov.
Under the terms of the state of emergency:
All bars and similar venues without on-premises food (hookah barks, cigar bars and vaping lounges) must close from 5 p.m. today (March 17) through April 12.
All bars and similar venues with on-premises food, breweries, restaurants and coffee shops may serve only take-out or delivery food, or pre-packaged alcohol authorized for sale under state law, from 12:01 a.m. March 18 through April 12. They must otherwise remain closed to everyone but employees.
All athletic gyms, exercise facilities, movie theaters and shopping mall food courts must close from 12:01 a.m. March 18 through April 12.
The Remington Park gaming area must close from 12:01 a.m. March 18 through April 12.
Staff may still perform maintenance duties at these facilities.
The terms of the original emergency proclamation are also still in place. The City has revoked all special event permits through April 12, banned gatherings of more than 50 people at most City facilities, and is requiring a distance of at least 3 feet between transit users. Read the details here.
Mayor Holt made the announcement Tuesday at a news conference at the Oklahoma City-County Health Department (OCCHD). The Oklahoma State Department of Health (OSDH) has confirmed nine of 17 statewide COVID-19 patients are in the Oklahoma City metro. Some cases are attributed to community spread.
The emergency proclamation is authorized under Chapter 15 Article III of City Code. It will remain in effect until the Mayor signs a proclamation to end it. The Mayor may modify the terms of the emergency for as long as it remains in effect.
The terms of the declaration are based on fast-evolving guidance on mass gatherings from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), OSDH and OCCHD.
Visit covid19.okc.gov for the latest local news, updates and guidance on COVID-19.
A violation of the proclamation’s terms would be a class “b” misdemeanor under City Code, punishable by up to 6 months in jail and a fine of up to $750.
jn1780 03-17-2020, 02:37 PM I think governments are just hoping to get to summer where spread rates will decrease. After summer who knows what they will do then. "Flattening the curve will take 6 months minimum" unless we can completely stop it during the summer which seems unlikely at this point, it won't go away until at least 70 percent of the population has built antibodies to it.
Now 17 confirmed cases in Oklahoma, 9 in OKC Metro area:
https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/health-department-17-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-in-oklahoma-more-than-80-tests-pending/
sooner88 03-17-2020, 03:17 PM Now 17 confirmed cases in Oklahoma, 9 in OKC Metro area:
https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/health-department-17-confirmed-cases-of-covid-19-in-oklahoma-more-than-80-tests-pending/
I saw those statistics this morning and it was pretty shocking. Based on the chart only 0.009% of the entire state has been tested (348 tests / 3.95mm population). My sister's a PA in Cleveland (where the spread is much worse) and they did double that in drive-thru testing YESTERDAY. It would seem logical that the number of confirmed cases in the OKC metro and statewide will sky rocket once testing is readily available.
Festival of the Arts -- scheduled from April 21-26 -- has been canceled.
PhiAlpha 03-17-2020, 03:25 PM Interestingly, yesterday I remembered a conversation we had with my stepdaughter's pediatrician during the last week of February. We were getting her re-tested for the flu because she was exhibiting flu like symptoms but had initially tested negative for it. She tested positive for it that day, but her pediatrician made the comment that over the last few weeks they had seen a bunch of kids who were exhibiting flu-like symptoms but repeatedly tested negative for it. A few weeks prior she had a fever for a day or two but was negative for flu and strep. A few weeks before that I had an odd cold with a cough that I couldn't shake for over a month and so did my parents who had a fever for several days but tested negative for the flu and by their own admission had the worst cough they could remember. That all may or may not be related to this (and you would think that doctors' offices would make the connection if it was) but it certainly makes you wonder if the virus has been circulating here for much longer than we realize.
jn1780 03-17-2020, 03:32 PM Interestingly, yesterday I remembered a conversation we had with my stepdaughter's pediatrician during the last week of February. We were getting her re-tested for the flu because she was exhibiting flu like symptoms but had initially tested negative for it. She tested positive for it that day, but her pediatrician made the comment that over the last few weeks they had seen a bunch of kids who were exhibiting flu-like symptoms but repeatedly tested negative for it. A few weeks prior she had a fever for a day or two but was negative for flu and strep. A few weeks before that I had an odd cold with a cough that I couldn't shake for over a month and so did my parents who had a fever for several days but tested negative for the flu and by their own admission had the worst cough they could remember. That all may or may not be related to this (and you would think that doctors' offices would make the connection if it was) but it certainly makes you wonder if the virus has been circulating here for much longer than we realize.
My kid had a mystery upper respiratory illness also a couple of weeks ago that tested negative for flu. He then gave it to me, Had a fever for a day that forced me to bed for a day or two. I then had a bad cough for a week.
TheTravellers 03-17-2020, 03:40 PM ... it certainly makes you wonder if the virus has been circulating here for much longer than we realize.
Of course it has, first case was in Nov 2019.
jccouger 03-17-2020, 03:46 PM Interestingly, yesterday I remembered a conversation we had with my stepdaughter's pediatrician during the last week of February. We were getting her re-tested for the flu because she was exhibiting flu like symptoms but had initially tested negative for it. She tested positive for it that day, but her pediatrician made the comment that over the last few weeks they had seen a bunch of kids who were exhibiting flu-like symptoms but repeatedly tested negative for it. A few weeks prior she had a fever for a day or two but was negative for flu and strep. A few weeks before that I had an odd cold with a cough that I couldn't shake for over a month and so did my parents who had a fever for several days but tested negative for the flu and by their own admission had the worst cough they could remember. That all may or may not be related to this (and you would think that doctors' offices would make the connection if it was) but it certainly makes you wonder if the virus has been circulating here for much longer than we realize.
Also makes me wonder how many deaths have been categorized as pneumonia when it was actually caused by Covid-19
19 reported from Johns Hopkins. I wonder if that includes the 2 Jazz players.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
Edmond Hausfrau 03-17-2020, 04:29 PM I think governments are just hoping to get to summer where spread rates will decrease. After summer who knows what they will do then. "Flattening the curve will take 6 months minimum" unless we can completely stop it during the summer which seems unlikely at this point, it won't go away until at least 70 percent of the population has built antibodies to it.
The problem with the summer argument is that there are cases in the southern hemisphere, where it's currently late summer.
bigjkt405 03-17-2020, 04:44 PM Of course it has, first case was in Nov 2019.
I had an issue for a couple weeks around Christmas. Really bad cough, flu like symptoms, but had a flu shot previously and tested negative for the flu.
chuck5815 03-17-2020, 04:53 PM Durant catches a case:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28917855/four-nets-players-test-positive-coronavirus
kukblue1 03-17-2020, 05:08 PM So Bruams is going to keep the store open cause of market and just bag all fountain area items to go and not let anyone sit in the dining room? Don't that defeat the purpose of all this?
dankrutka 03-17-2020, 05:16 PM I think governments are just hoping to get to summer where spread rates will decrease.
I've seen a lot of experts who do not think COVID-19 will be affected by the summer or seasons. I think there is still some debate, but I don't think it's a safe assumption that heat will kill this off.
jn1780 03-17-2020, 05:24 PM The problem with the summer argument is that there are cases in the southern hemisphere, where it's currently late summer.
No one said it was zero. Even the flu is still around in the summer. There are countries where you would have expected this to have already become an Italy or worse but somehow not.
It would be an extremely resilient virus if could withstand 90+ degree temperatures outside for any length of time. Obviously it would not be over 90 degress inside. During the Spanish Flu, they saw good results putting patients outside.
I guess we will find out in a week down in Mexico after they had their large gathering.
catch22 03-17-2020, 06:15 PM I've also heard this. I would consider the source to be quite reputable.
Think it's about to start. Chicago Midway Tower just closed due to 3 controllers or equipment technicians (immediate data is conflicting) testing positive for COVID-19. Believe MDW is closed until tomorrow and all Southwest flights have been canceled in and out of MDW until tomorrow.
Wait until this starts popping up at en route centers, tracons, and more local towers.
Bill Robertson 03-17-2020, 06:16 PM I've seen a lot of experts who do not think COVID-19 will be affected by the summer or seasons. I think there is still some debate, but I don't think it's a safe assumption that heat will kill this off.I always thought summer killing off the flu had more to do with people being outside more and not cooped up together inside than with temperature killing the virus.
catch22 03-17-2020, 06:17 PM Think it's about to start. Chicago Midway Tower just closed due to 3 controllers or equipment technicians (immediate data is conflicting) testing positive for COVID-19. Believe MDW is closed until tomorrow and all Southwest flights have been canceled in and out of MDW until tomorrow.
Wait until this starts popping up at en route centers, tracons, and more local towers.
MDW 03/159 Aerodrome 03/17/2020 2246 03/20/2020 1300 SVC TWR CLSD CLASS D SERVICE NOT AVBL CTC CHICAGO APP AT 847-289-0926 2003172246-2003201300
Closed MDW 03/149 Aerodrome 03/18/2020 0300 03/18/2020 1100 RWY 04L/22R CLSD 2003180300-2003181100
Closed MDW 03/150 Aerodrome 03/18/2020 0300 03/18/2020 1100 RWY 04R/22L CLSD 2003180300-2003181100
Closed MDW 03/151 Aerodrome 03/18/2020 0300 03/18/2020 1100 RWY 13L/31R CLSD EXC TAX 2003180300-2003181100
Closed MDW 03/152 Aerodrome 03/18/2020 0300 03/18/2020 1100 RWY 13R/31L CLSD 2003180300-2003181100
Closed MDW 03/153 Aerodrome 03/18/2020 0300 03/18/2020 1100 TWY R CLSD 2003180300-2003181100
Closed MDW 03/154 Aerodrome 03/18/2020 0300 03/18/2020 1100 TWY Y6 CLSD 2003180300-2003181100
Confirmed by FAA Notice to Airman system. Tower closed and all runways closed.
jonny d 03-17-2020, 06:19 PM If only we knew a little more about the virus. We could treat it like the chicken pox (another disease with no cure, just treat the symptoms). I am kidding, and since this is way worse for the elderly, that would never work, but still. Getting everyone immune would help a lot!
emtefury 03-17-2020, 07:57 PM So Bruams is going to keep the store open cause of market and just bag all fountain area items to go and not let anyone sit in the dining room? Don't that defeat the purpose of all this?
No one is forcing you to go to Braums. If don't like their policy, then don't go. Simple solution.
kukblue1 03-17-2020, 08:14 PM No one is forcing you to go to Braums. If don't like their policy, then don't go. Simple solution.
100% agree but isn't it defeating the purpose. Isn't all this defeating the purpose. We are just slowly bleeding instead of stopping the bleeding by doing a two week shut down of everything. Which oh by the way is coming next week. Another week goes by before we take the measures we should be taking now.
This site shows the U.S. added over 1,800 cases just today.
These #'s are going to go through the roof, as we've barely even started testing.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
jonny d 03-17-2020, 08:19 PM The good thing about positive tests is that people now will know to get inside and stay there for the incubation period. Rather than walking around blind. That is the misleading thing about higher positive tests. People will focus on the negative, rather than the somewhat positive.
Mr. Blue Sky 03-17-2020, 08:24 PM The good thing about positive tests is that people now will know to get inside and stay there for the incubation period. Rather than walking around blind. That is the misleading thing about higher positive tests. People will focus on the negative, rather than the somewhat positive.
Rolling out tests to everyone isn’t practical right now. Wish it was.
@kuk — Braum’s is just abiding by Mayor Holt’s legal order of closing dining rooms and only allowing carry-out and delivery.
Mr. Blue Sky 03-17-2020, 08:34 PM Homeland announces first hour of shopping will be for seniors and those with medical conditions only. Per CEO Marc Jones.
https://www.koco.com/article/homeland-stores-dedicate-first-shopping-hour-to-senior-customers-those-with-medical-conditions/31710577
OKC Guy 03-17-2020, 08:34 PM Went to refresh milk/bread and some basics. Found:
Crest was like half empty. I mean the whole store! Over the intercom they are advertising hiring 100 workers. If you need work they need you! No milk. No meat. No bread. I mean nada, not even the last cuts. They had meat counter shut down. The prepackaged meat area was empty but had chicken. No bread whatsoever. No eggs. Some aisles were almost bare. They restock each night but it goes fast. They did have TP in 2 pack size limit 1 pack (I didn’t need but it was pretty cheap stuff it appeared).
Walmart neighborhood. All out if meat. Nothing left. No bread. Milk was down to half gallons and only maybe 20 total mixed types. No eggs. It was better stocked overall.
OKC Guy 03-17-2020, 08:40 PM Homeland announces first hour of shopping will be for seniors and those with medical conditions only. Per CEO Marc Jones.
https://www.koco.com/article/homeland-stores-dedicate-first-shopping-hour-to-senior-customers-those-with-medical-conditions/31710577
I suggested this earlier today its an awesome move!! Plus stores clean overnight so it will be a bit less risk for them.
Great to see!!
jn1780 03-17-2020, 08:45 PM 100% agree but isn't it defeating the purpose. Isn't all this defeating the purpose. We are just slowly bleeding instead of stopping the bleeding by doing a two week shut down of everything. Which oh by the way is coming next week. Another week goes by before we take the measures we should be taking now.
That ship set sailed two months ago when it comes to stopping the bleeding. Unless were going to weld apartment building doors shut like in China. Those drastic actions was mostly confined to one city.
OKC Guy 03-17-2020, 08:53 PM Biomerica Inc. (NASDAQ: BMRA) today announced it has commenced shipping initial samples of its COVID-19 IgG/IgM Rapid Test (a finger prick blood test with results in 10 minutes, that can be performed by trained professionals anywhere, e.g. airports, schools, work, pharmacies and doctors’ offices) to countries outside the US. Evaluation test kits have been requested by Ministries of Health in multiple countries through the Company’s distribution partners who are working with their government agencies to assess the tests and forecast demand. This disposable point-of-care serology test is different than the current polymerase chain reaction (PCR) tests in that initial studies indicate that serology tests can identify if someone has been exposed to the COVID-19 virus, and can further detect if a person was recently infected with the disease even if they have never shown or are no longer showing symptoms. This can help health agencies focus on prior contacts of persons previously infected. Existing PCR tests generally only show positive if a person is currently infected and the virus is still present. Furthermore, PCR tests require patient samples to be sent to a lab, thus increasing the cost of the test and reducing the speed to obtain a result. Biomerica’s test could also be used in conjunction with the PCR test by rapidly pre-screening larger groups of individuals, who if tested positive could be further tested using a PCR test for verification.Biomerica is positioned to begin filling large international orders of this disposable one-use tests within weeks, assuming international product shipping channels remain open and active.
In addition, Biomerica has begun the application process with the FDA under the COVID-19 Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), aimed at the possible clearance and eventual use of the test in the US. At this time, the product is not available for sale or use in the US.Biomerica is also announcing that it has filed a provisional patent application with broad claims around technology that can be used to identify several Corona viruses including SARS-CoV-2, SARS, MERS and potential future mutations or strains of these viruses. Biomerica expects to sell these disposable, single-use devices for less than $10 per test.About Serology Tests
Biomerica’s rapid-test technology is a serology test. Serology tests look for the presence of antibodies, which are specific proteins made in response to infections. The antibodies detected by serology tests indicate that a person has had an immune response to the novel Corona Virus (SARS CoV-2), whether symptoms developed from infection or the infection was asymptomatic. Antibody test results are important in detecting infections with few or no symptoms. 1Zackary Irani, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, stated, “We are saddened by the continued global spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the devastating effects on the lives of people affected by COVID-19. While the Biomerica test is new and being evaluated by various institutions, we are hopeful our low-cost test can be one of the tools used to contain this virus while vaccines and other permanent solutions are developed.
https://stocksnewsfeed.com/globenewswire/biomerica-begins-shipping-samples-of-10-minute-test-for-covid-19-virus-exposure/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
OKC Guy 03-17-2020, 08:58 PM If you know someone displaced or needing work I would suggest have them check with all grocery related stores. This is going to continue to be a need while this lasts. It may not be what you are used to but most need restockers.
Edmond Hausfrau 03-17-2020, 08:59 PM If only we knew a little more about the virus. We could treat it like the chicken pox (another disease with no cure, just treat the symptoms). I am kidding, and since this is way worse for the elderly, that would never work, but still. Getting everyone immune would help a lot!
Varicella aka chicken pox has a vaccine. It's extremely effective.
Older adults are recommended to get the shingles vaccine, which is (simplified) a booster shot to prevent partial reemergence of the latent varicella virus.
That's not the situation we have today, though you are correct that the hope of a vaccine is something we should all support.
OKC Guy 03-17-2020, 09:17 PM 15846
Mr. Blue Sky 03-17-2020, 09:22 PM Varicella aka chicken pox has a vaccine. It's extremely effective.
Older adults are recommended to get the shingles vaccine, which is (simplified) a booster shot to prevent partial reemergence of the latent varicella virus.
That's not the situation we have today, though you are correct that the hope of a vaccine is something we should all support.
Excellent. Add to the vaccine (still months away), the apparent benefit of this antiviral from the OMRF, which has been given emergency approval for use with COVID-19. It’s use as part of an ongoing clinical trial may help soon. This could actually be a significant breakthrough as coronaviruses are, apparently, notoriously resistant to antivirals.
dankrutka 03-17-2020, 10:07 PM No one is forcing you to go to Braums. If don't like their policy, then don't go. Simple solution.
It's not about individuals not going. Braum's keeping their dining area open endangers the community, particularly the most vulnerable members. Even during a global pandemic some people are struggling to see anything beyond individual choice.
Dustin 03-17-2020, 10:17 PM Festival of the Arts -- scheduled from April 21-26 -- has been canceled.
I had such high hopes for 2020, but it's been absolute s### so far! C'mon 2021!
OKC Guy 03-17-2020, 10:21 PM Get ready:
In Connecticut, about 10,000 jobless claims were filed Monday and nearly 10,200 more came in Tuesday, bringing the number to 30,000 since Friday. The typical number has been 3,000 to 3,500 a week
The all time weekly high, Seasonally Adjusted, was 695,000 in Oct 82. The high during the great recession was 665,000 in Mar 09.
Based on state reports, those numbers will be obliterated in the report released next week (for this week).
SEMIweather 03-17-2020, 10:51 PM I had such high hopes for 2020, but it's been absolute s### so far! C'mon 2021!
Lmao, if you want an incredibly small silver lining, imagine how much we are going to go out of our way to be busy after all of this is over. Probably not going to have to worry about people bailing on plans for months LOL.
Harbinger 03-18-2020, 12:09 AM This.
https://youtu.be/cZFhjMQrVts
jn1780 03-18-2020, 12:24 AM I had such high hopes for 2020, but it's been absolute s### so far! C'mon 2021!
I dont see 2021 being all that great either. Maybe 2022, after there is a new global currency called the corona dollar.
I'm only halfway joking.
Plutonic Panda 03-18-2020, 12:57 AM Folks, if you need work also consider GIG apps like Amazon Flex, Postmates, Uber, and Instacart. Not to mention grocery stores will be in need of workers.
BBatesokc 03-18-2020, 04:33 AM It's not about individuals not going. Braum's keeping their dining area open endangers the community, particularly the most vulnerable members. Even during a global pandemic some people are struggling to see anything beyond individual choice.
I fail to see how going to Braums and eating in a basically empty dinning area is any more dangerous then buying groceries (considering many of the grocery store aisles are narrow and are often quite busy) or standing around people all waiting for their takeout order or waiting in line at a cashier.
BBatesokc 03-18-2020, 04:38 AM Not sure why more gyms and such didn't plan to do this.... but, my wife's gym class instructor obviously can't teach at the gym any longer..... So.... She simply moved her classes to Facebook Live. Wife setup at the usual time (only at home instead of the gym) and did her workout. This should have been an excellent way for some gyms to maintain some membership revenue and is a physical and emotional pick-me-up for people stuck at home and stressed out.
I'm betting Peloton is loving this quarantine.
chuck5815 03-18-2020, 08:14 AM Not sure why more gyms and such didn't plan to do this.... but, my wife's gym class instructor obviously can't teach at the gym any longer..... So.... She simply moved her classes to Facebook Live. Wife setup at the usual time (only at home instead of the gym) and did her workout. This should have been an excellent way for some gyms to maintain some membership revenue and is a physical and emotional pick-me-up for people stuck at home and stressed out.
I'm betting Peloton is loving this quarantine.
Maybe . . . but how many people are going to drop $3k + $40/mo. if their financial circumstances are even slightly in question?
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