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TheTravellers
06-30-2020, 12:37 PM
There's been a real cascade of local restaurants/bars closing now or going back to curbside only, either due to a positive test or as a precaution.

I've seen...
Picasso Cafe
Oso
Blue Seven
Chick N Beer
Tamashii Ramen (positive case)
Social Capital (positive case)
Pump Bar (positive case)
Bunker Club
Sunnyside Diner (Edmond) (positive case)
R&J Supper Lounge
Bellini's (positive case)
McClintock Saloon and Chophouse
Eagle One Pizza (Moore)
HiLo Club (positive case)
Lost Highway Bar (positive case)
Revolucion
ZamZam Mediterranean Grill
The Indigo Attic
Hamilton Supperette
Red Cup Cafe
En Croute
The Press (positive case)
Flashback RetroPub
RedPrime Steakhouse (positive case)

Thank you for this list, very informative! Did you gather up all the info yourself or is there a central place that keeps track of this kind of thing?

C_M_25
06-30-2020, 12:40 PM
Fox News so take with a big grain of salt but:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/pittsburgh-hospital-officials-coronavirus-appears-less-potent-than-before

HangryHippo
06-30-2020, 12:42 PM
Thank you for this list, very informative! Did you gather up all the info yourself or is there a central place that keeps track of this kind of thing?
KOCO reporters' Twitter accounts and Oklahoma Source on Facebook are pretty good sources for this information.

soonerguru
06-30-2020, 12:55 PM
It is not AS concerning the case spikes, when you consider that deaths are not going up, hardly at all. I wonder what the hospitalizations look like today. If they are still relatively low, then I feel we need to stop freaking the heck out EVERY SINGLE DAY over case #s, and start focusing on the hospitalization #s increasing or decreasing.

People are not freaking out “every single day.” Stop with the hyperbole. These are unprecedented numbers indicating exponential case number increases.

That means it is quickly spreading in the community and WILL spread to vulnerable people, who will get it and die.

Thoughtless, irresponsible post.

Pete
06-30-2020, 12:56 PM
Keep in mind, restaurants and bars are not required to close after an employee tests positive.

So the list above merely represents businesses that volunteered the information.

I happen to know there have been several more places that have had employees test positive and not close or publicize that information.


And, both McClintock and Revolucion self-reported positive cases, although in the case of the former, they just said that a staff member had been exposed and never gave any update if that person or anyone else working there had ultimately tested positive.

kukblue1
06-30-2020, 01:22 PM
There have been other reports out of Europe and I believe somewhere on the east coast of the same phenomenon more recently. I’ll see if I can dig up the articles.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/upmc-doctor-says-covid-19-has-become-less-prevalent-and-less-severe.html Pittsburgh doctor said the same thing. I hope it's true but i think it's just younger people getting it who don't die. In Oklahoma under 50 death rate is 0.1 That is just based on confirmed cases so I'm sure it's even lower than that

soonerguru
06-30-2020, 01:26 PM
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/upmc-doctor-says-covid-19-has-become-less-prevalent-and-less-severe.html Pittsburgh doctor said the same thing. I hope it's true but i think it's just younger people getting it who don't die. In Oklahoma under 50 death rate is 0.1 That is just based on confirmed cases so I'm sure it's even lower than that

The concern is NOT JUST ABOUT DEATHS.

chuck5815
06-30-2020, 01:31 PM
The concern is NOT JUST ABOUT DEATHS.

You're panicking. Take a few deep breaths.

kukblue1
06-30-2020, 01:38 PM
The was another death in the 36-49 range bringing the total up to 16 for people under 49. I don't want to sound like I'm down playing this at all. We don't know what long term effects there will be in younger population or with anyone. However 16 deaths in 3 1/2 months now is not horrible. I wonder how many in that age group has died from other things. Once again I'm not down playing it. We should have mask mandatory. We should be paying our older population to stay home if they are currently working. But this isn't a death sentence if your young and healthy. Doesn't mean you shouldn't take any precautions just mean not freak out if you do get it and your young and healthy.

midtownokcer
06-30-2020, 01:50 PM
Tulsa County appears to have gone past its peak with 121 today. Meanwhile, Oklahoma County hit its highest single daily increase with 181 cases today. The previous high was 114 just three days ago. All the triple digit increases in OK County have been in the past two weeks.

Just a month ago (5/30), there were only 88 active cases in Oklahoma County alone. Today, there are 804.
Various Charts:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yq1sU-FCSKy2AgQUUuD0v6EC8VrKbya0J06h42l5WaI/edit?usp=sharing

pw405
06-30-2020, 01:59 PM
Wow... 585 new cases today?

Pete
06-30-2020, 02:08 PM
Just went to vote and 100% compliance in mask-wearing; I'd say about 30 people or so.

FighttheGoodFight
06-30-2020, 02:11 PM
Governor Stitt Covid19 presser about to start. It is on Facebook or your local news site live streaming.

gopokes88
06-30-2020, 02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1277986070643138561?s=20

FighttheGoodFight
06-30-2020, 02:18 PM
Governer Stitt came to the conference with a mask for the first time I think. I believe we are about to get a recommendation to wear masks. I would guess.

Pete
06-30-2020, 02:18 PM
Stitt: "Oklahomans are doing a better job with the virus than any other state."

TheTravellers
06-30-2020, 02:20 PM
Stitt: "Oklahomans are doing a better job with the virus than any other state."

"We're a national leader in the way we've handled it".

Both baldfaced lies.

And even though masks are present on Stitt and another guy, they're hanging around their necks, idiots.

Pete
06-30-2020, 02:23 PM
"Cases are up but hospitals still have plenty of capacity. 40% fewer hospital cases than the peak."

Recommending masks but clearly not going to require them.

FighttheGoodFight
06-30-2020, 02:25 PM
County by county data coming. This is probably a good thing.

Stitt has changed his tone on masks now. Recommendation for wearing them. I hope he continues to model that behavior and wear one in public. I know this seems small but this is a big change for him.

Libbymin
06-30-2020, 02:27 PM
Just went to vote and 100% compliance in mask-wearing; I'd say about 30 people or so.

That was my observation as well.

Pete
06-30-2020, 02:28 PM
Stitt now saying they are going to create a color-coded system for depicting virus status by county.

Making the point that problem areas are limited to a few hotspots, not statewide.


Perhaps the county reps should next get up and say while the county-wide #'s are bad, it's really just limited to a few cities in their purview.

Then mayors can tell people on certain streets to be careful but that everyone else should just live their lives, followed by the Block Home chairs who will then blame a recent party at one house.

And then we'll all just forget that almost everyone moves around freely every single day.

FighttheGoodFight
06-30-2020, 02:33 PM
He is leaving mask mandates to a city by city basis. He will no mandate it.

I could see certain cities doing this. Let's see what happens.

David
06-30-2020, 02:35 PM
So it's open for OKC to mandate them without the state meddling?

Bill Robertson
06-30-2020, 02:37 PM
So it's open for OKC to mandate them without the state meddling?Hello......Mayor Holt..........

FighttheGoodFight
06-30-2020, 02:40 PM
He said he will not be heavy handed with municipalities. He also said three times, he will never mandate masks in Oklahoma and believe in freedom.

jerrywall
06-30-2020, 02:41 PM
He is leaving mask mandates to a city by city basis. He will no mandate it.

I could see certain cities doing this. Let's see what happens.

I'm actually more supportive of city level mandates vs state wide mask mandates. I also like the county level heat maps he talked about.

TheTravellers
06-30-2020, 02:45 PM
He said he will not be heavy handed with municipalities. ...

That's such a good look - I won't come down on cities that decide to do what every other municipality in the world that believes in science and a proven way to decrease infection spread does.

Pete
06-30-2020, 02:50 PM
The truth is he has said "he'd never" do certain things so often that he's painted himself into a corner and now will just abdicate his leadership and leave it to others.

OKCretro
06-30-2020, 02:51 PM
At my polling place only 1 person (man in the 75+ age group) without a mask. Only were about 20 people in there.

Buffalo Bill
06-30-2020, 02:52 PM
https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1277986070643138561?s=20

So this chart shows that COVID-19 Is doubling the death rate across all age groups. Great.

Libbymin
06-30-2020, 02:54 PM
He is leaving mask mandates to a city by city basis. He will no mandate it.

I could see certain cities doing this. Let's see what happens.

I think it's far more likely that we'll have a city mandate than a state one at this point.

TheTravellers
06-30-2020, 02:55 PM
The truth is he has said "he'd never" do certain things so often that he's painted himself into a corner and now will just abdicate his leadership and leave it to others.

Sounds familiar.....

C_M_25
06-30-2020, 03:03 PM
So this chart shows that COVID-19 Is doubling the death rate across all age groups. Great.

That’s not how I interpret that graph. I think it’s showing that your chance of death by covid, for any given age group, isn’t any different than your normal chance of dying outside of covid. The asterisk even suggests that the covid points plot even lower than your normal chance of death. How do you draw your conclusion? Curious as to whether I’m missing something

jerrywall
06-30-2020, 03:06 PM
That’s not how I interpret that graph. I think it’s showing that your chance of death by covid, for any given age group, isn’t any different than your normal chance of dying outside of covid. The asterisk even suggests that the covid points plot even lower than your normal chance of death. How do you draw your conclusion? Curious as to whether I’m missing something

Yeah, I'm seeing the chart the same way as you.

jdizzle
06-30-2020, 03:12 PM
So this chart shows that COVID-19 Is doubling the death rate across all age groups. Great.

Wait, what?!

Pete
06-30-2020, 03:29 PM
AMC just announced they will push back opening any of their theaters until July 30th.

jerrywall
06-30-2020, 03:35 PM
AMC just announced they will push back opening any of their theaters until July 30th.

Regal also announced earlier today, pushing back to the 31st I believe.

kukblue1
06-30-2020, 03:51 PM
I watched the first 10 minutes and gave up. When he starting saying how great we are doing after having an all time record of 585 cases I was out. Doing good was 200 or less cases. R factor of under 1 all of which we are not even close to right now. Hospitals have almost doubled in 2 weeks how is that good?

SoonerDave
06-30-2020, 03:55 PM
Not shocked one bit I knew we were going to hit over 500 this this week but our politicians will get on the air and be like our 7-Day average is lower than what it was 7 days ago everything is fine. thats because we had low numbers on Monday and that's the only reason 7 day avg will look good

The 7-day rolling average is a mathematical and statistical necessity because many if not most of the testing labs do not operate on the weekend, thus creating artificially lower results numbers for the weekend. The only way to normalize that drop is to look at week-to-week data, in which time all the testing for a given week is as complete as we can get it. It's exactly why we can't look at just Sunday or just Monday numbers.

Edmond Hausfrau
06-30-2020, 04:00 PM
"Cases are up but hospitals still have plenty of capacity. 40% fewer hospital cases than the peak."

Recommending masks but clearly not going to require them.

Hospital capacity is what gets me. Most hospital CEOs like their ICUs at 85% capacity and don't want idle beds there (similar to a plane taking off with empty seats). Add to this the second highest uninsured population in the US, and I am worried who is hanging out at home in the farmhouse, quietly having a stroke or pulmonary embolism. I will be curious to see the data when it comes in on morbidity and mortality of non Covid-19 cases in the coming years.

Buffalo Bill
06-30-2020, 04:05 PM
That’s not how I interpret that graph. I think it’s showing that your chance of death by covid, for any given age group, isn’t any different than your normal chance of dying outside of covid. The asterisk even suggests that the covid points plot even lower than your normal chance of death. How do you draw your conclusion? Curious as to whether I’m missing something

Right, so in a pre-Covid environment your chance of dying at say age 50 is 0.2%, which is now your chance of dying of Covid. While those other factors in dying may be mitigated, for example people are driving less, workplace accidents may be reduced, etc, people are still dying from those things. Put it this way, according to this chart, Covid alone will kill as many people as would normally die in a time frame, distributed at like fatality rates across the age spectrum, as would normally die without Covid. There are still people dying of all other factors, cancer, heart disease, etc, in addition to Covid, concurrent with Covid.

LocoAko
06-30-2020, 05:12 PM
For those of you who have been tested for Covid, is there anywhere that is doing rapid results testing or is the only kind of testing the ones that need to be shipped to a lab and take days to get back?

Bill Robertson
06-30-2020, 05:40 PM
For those of you who have been tested for Covid, is there anywhere that is doing rapid results testing or is the only kind of testing the ones that need to be shipped to a lab and take days to get back?Search “covid rapid testing, oklahoma city”
I came up with quite a few.

Bill Robertson
06-30-2020, 05:51 PM
I watched the first 10 minutes and gave up. When he starting saying how great we are doing after having an all time record of 585 cases I was out. Doing good was 200 or less cases. R factor of under 1 all of which we are not even close to right now. Hospitals have almost doubled in 2 weeks how is that good?Stitt and the medical experts that advise him have never said what new case numbers they expected to see upon Phase 3. But I would bet they expected rather large numbers. As long as hospitalizations didn’t overwhelm the system. Which they aren’t......yet. And hopefully they don’t.
Now, as to the new cases. In March we started with 1case, then a few, then a few hundred, then at a thousand or so we “shut down”. Upon reopening people are going places without a care as if nothing’s at all wrong. But the virus spread didn’t start from zero this time it had a several thousand current case head start. As discussed before we don’t even really know how many are out there with it currently. Of course the new case numbers are going to be crazy under these circumstances. Looking at it this way it’s a miracle that the new case numbers aren’t WAY higher. Since Stitt isn’t going to do anything I pray that the larger cities Mayors grow some and take hold of the situation.

Bill Robertson
06-30-2020, 05:59 PM
On a better note I stopped at Homeland on the way home from work. Mask wearing there had been 20 to 30% and dropping the last couple weeks. Today I would guess there were 50 to 60% and pretty much all of them wearing them properly.

Libbymin
06-30-2020, 06:05 PM
On a better note I stopped at Homeland on the way home from work. Mask wearing there had been 20 to 30% and dropping the last couple weeks. Today I would guess there were 50 to 60% and pretty much all of them wearing them properly.

I went by Whole Foods and I’d say it was about 80% there which was good to see.

kukblue1
06-30-2020, 06:20 PM
152 new cases for OKC. I'm sure that is a new record also. This is so widespread. Only thing we can hope for is that it's a weaker strain cause our leaders are waiting too long to do anything and at this rate I'm afraid it's too late.

kukblue1
06-30-2020, 06:24 PM
https://twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1278106718652772353/photo/1 This is not good. Like I said I turned off the news conference when he said in the first 10 minutes we were doing good. Explain too me how this is good.

SoonerDave
06-30-2020, 06:41 PM
Some of the data in the daily mailout and the EOR is confusing/conflicting.

Today, the OSDH mailout summary for 6/30 said we had 13,757 confirmed total positives in OK across 343,643 returned tests.

Today, also, the OSDH Executive Order Report - also for 6/30 - states that we have 15,387 confirmed total positives in OK across 348,350 total tests. (There are also some 5,600 pending tests, but that's a bit outside this post).

Both of those numbers can't be for the same day. Are we going to see a delta of 1,630 new cases tomorrow across only 4,727 tests??! Something doesn't make sense. Is there some additional vetting that occurs between the daily release and the same-day's EOR?

Bill Robertson
06-30-2020, 06:49 PM
Some of the data in the daily mailout and the EOR is confusing/conflicting.

Today, the OSDH mailout summary for 6/30 said we had 13,757 confirmed total positives in OK across 343,643 returned tests.

Today, also, the OSDH Executive Order Report - also for 6/30 - states that we have 15,387 confirmed total positives in OK across 348,350 total tests. (There are also some 5,600 pending tests, but that's a bit outside this post).

Both of those numbers can't be for the same day. Are we going to see a delta of 1,630 new cases tomorrow across only 4,727 tests??! Something doesn't make sense. Is there some additional vetting that occurs between the daily release and the same-day's EOR?The different reports haven’t coincided for weeks. In the beginning they mostly did but starting in May sometime they started downhill as far as coinciding and get worse all the time.

AP
06-30-2020, 07:19 PM
The 7-day rolling average is a mathematical and statistical necessity because many if not most of the testing labs do not operate on the weekend, thus creating artificially lower results numbers for the weekend. The only way to normalize that drop is to look at week-to-week data, in which time all the testing for a given week is as complete as we can get it. It's exactly why we can't look at just Sunday or just Monday numbers.

Holt has regularly used 14-day, 7-day, and 3-day rolling averages randomly. He also randomly uses city, county, and metro data. There’s really no rhyme or reason except to paint the picture he wants.

AP
06-30-2020, 07:23 PM
For those of you who have been tested for Covid, is there anywhere that is doing rapid results testing or is the only kind of testing the ones that need to be shipped to a lab and take days to get back?

I did my rapid test at First Med on 39th. It took about 30 minutes and was walk-in.

SoonerDave
06-30-2020, 07:24 PM
Holt has regularly used 14-day, 7-day, and 3-day rolling averages randomly. He also randomly uses city, county, and metro data. There’s really no rhyme or reason except to paint the picture he wants.

My comment has nothing to do with any public statements by any elected officials. I was addressing specifically what appeared to be a lack of understanding of the necessity of a 7-day rolling average in light of inherently inconsistent data derived from limited weekend reports. Nothing more.

AP
06-30-2020, 07:26 PM
My comment has nothing to do with any public statements by any elected officials. I was addressing specifically what appeared to be a lack of understanding of the necessity of a 7-day rolling average in light of inherently inconsistent data derived from limited weekend reports. Nothing more.

I know. Sorry if it seemed like I was debating you. I have been meaning to bring that up about Holt and your convo opened the door.

Plutonic Panda
06-30-2020, 07:30 PM
Two of my neighbors in north Edmond have tested positive.

dankrutka
06-30-2020, 09:40 PM
If we combined this thread with Hamilton it would look like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_HZectGDlo&feature=youtu.be

kukblue1
06-30-2020, 10:05 PM
News 9 is at the Terry Neese party and i only see one person wearing a mask. SMH People just not getting it are they?

brian72
06-30-2020, 10:16 PM
News 9 is at the Terry Neese party and i only see one person wearing a mask. SMH People just not getting it are they? Turn off the TV!!!!! Your heart can't take all this bad news. For the Love of god.

SoonerDave
06-30-2020, 10:55 PM
I know. Sorry if it seemed like I was debating you. I have been meaning to bring that up about Holt and your convo opened the door.

No problem!

SoonerDave
06-30-2020, 10:59 PM
Some of the data in the daily mailout and the EOR is confusing/conflicting.

Today, the OSDH mailout summary for 6/30 said we had 13,757 confirmed total positives in OK across 343,643 returned tests.

Today, also, the OSDH Executive Order Report - also for 6/30 - states that we have 15,387 confirmed total positives in OK across 348,350 total tests. (There are also some 5,600 pending tests, but that's a bit outside this post).

Both of those numbers can't be for the same day. Are we going to see a delta of 1,630 new cases tomorrow across only 4,727 tests??! Something doesn't make sense. Is there some additional vetting that occurs between the daily release and the same-day's EOR?

After studying the data a bit further, I believe I have sorted out my confusion.

The EOR lists "total positive specimens," and immediately qualifies that number with a note it does not indicate unique individuals. In the lower summary section, it lists daily cases as "newly reported." That tells me the daily number is unique individuals, not repeated testers. Just clarifying what I think the report is conveying.cTook a few rereads and comparisons for th light bulb to go on.