Bill Robertson
06-27-2020, 09:15 AM
On the 6/25 EOR there were 19k pending test results. On the 6/26 there were 6k reported and 6k pending. I think the 19k was a typo?
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Bill Robertson 06-27-2020, 09:15 AM On the 6/25 EOR there were 19k pending test results. On the 6/26 there were 6k reported and 6k pending. I think the 19k was a typo? Pete 06-27-2020, 09:15 AM On the 6/25 EOR there were 19k pending test results. On the 6/26 there were 6k reported and 6k pending. I think the 19k was a typo? Yes, it was a data-entry error that has been corrected. Rover 06-27-2020, 09:22 AM Why do people think they have to abstain from wearing a mask to show they don’t live in fear? Heck, I don’t live in fear of someone breaking into my house and kill me, but I do lock my door and turn on my alarm. Just makes sense. Not wearing a mask shouldn’t be fueled by testosterone, but by brain cells. RustytheBailiff 06-27-2020, 10:15 AM Why do people think they have to abstain from wearing a mask to show they don’t live in fear? Heck, I don’t live in fear of someone breaking into my house and kill me, but I do lock my door and turn on my alarm. Just makes sense. Not wearing a mask shouldn’t be fueled by testosterone, but by brain cells. Commonsense is a rare commodity some days.... jccouger 06-27-2020, 10:20 AM Why do people think they have to abstain from wearing a mask to show they don’t live in fear? Heck, I don’t live in fear of someone breaking into my house and kill me, but I do lock my door and turn on my alarm. Just makes sense. Not wearing a mask shouldn’t be fueled by testosterone, but by brain cells. Because people have fragile egos and are very concerned with their appearance and what it portrays, even to everyday strangers who they will never interact with again. Bill Robertson 06-27-2020, 11:11 AM Because people have fragile egos and are very concerned with their appearance and what it portrays, even to everyday strangers who they will never interact with again. True. I admit I felt a little self conscious the first couple times I ventured out in a mask. Then I quit caring what anyone might think. Now I see it as making a statement of I’m going to do what I want and if you have a problem it’s your problem. Also as a humble badge of honor that I care about people. Libbymin 06-27-2020, 11:20 AM A video demonstrating the effectiveness of wearing a mask. https://m.facebook.com/KHQkev/videos/265706771159373/?refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fstory.php&_rdr Libbymin 06-27-2020, 11:21 AM 299 more cases and 7 new deaths reported. Pete 06-27-2020, 01:08 PM Today's increases over yesterday: Positives: 299 Hospitalizations: 47 Deaths: 7 soonerguru 06-27-2020, 01:28 PM Funny you make a point much about this virus is unknown but not before you claim it would be significantly hindered by face masks because science knows so much about it. It’s odd, as someone who appreciates science, for the first time, to part ways with many who claim to be for science acting like sheep and being told I am a science denier because I think the mask thing is complete and utter BS when so little is known about this virus. Then when I’m skeptical about the vaccine those like poliguy have no argument to make other than the “oh you’re a bill gates conspiracy theorists” because they have nothing else to say. It’s cute. You don't have to believe virologists, just look at the countries with high mask usage. It's working. You are right to a degree that this is a moving target; we continue to learn new things with this unfolding event. One thing that is a known and provable fact is that if both parties are wearing face coverings, there is almost zero chance of transmission. If only one party wears one, the risk of transmission goes up by orders of magnitude. If neither party is wearing a mask they will probably get what they deserve. I don't think you're a conspiracy theorist. I just think you are strangely argumentative about things you don't know much about, bordering on trolling. SoonerDave 06-27-2020, 01:46 PM 299 more cases and 7 new deaths reported. Here's an underappreciated shocker in today's results: Between Thursday and Friday, some 15,000 new test results, combined with 299 cases, drops our positive testing rate to 3%. Jersey Boss 06-27-2020, 02:01 PM Here's an underappreciated shocker in today's results: Between Thursday and Friday, some 15,000 new test results, combined with 299 cases, drops our positive testing rate to 3%. How many of the tests were multiple tests to same individual? When and where were the tests administered? SoonerDave 06-27-2020, 02:41 PM How many of the tests were multiple tests to same individual? When and where were the tests administered? I'm just going by the numbers OSDH releases every day. The raw numbers show a 3% positive rate. That's all I can tell you. kukblue1 06-27-2020, 03:00 PM Today's increases over yesterday: Positives: 299 Hospitalizations: 47 Deaths: 7 Wait so we have had over 100 Hospitalizations now in 2 days? Our Governor needs to wake up. I get it they hospitals are not currently being overran but why wait until they are before we decided to do something. d-usa 06-27-2020, 03:07 PM If wearing a mask makes us scared, then carrying a gun must make me terrified of everything... TheTravellers 06-27-2020, 03:14 PM If wearing a mask makes us scared, then carrying a gun must make me terrified of everything... Ha, best post of the day... Bill Robertson 06-27-2020, 03:39 PM If wearing a mask makes us scared, then carrying a gun must make me terrified of everything...I also carry. I consider it being ready......just in case. jonny d 06-27-2020, 04:15 PM How many of the tests were multiple tests to same individual? When and where were the tests administered? Do we have to question any good news coming out of this? If the positive rate were 70%, would you be questioning the validity of the results? SoonerDave 06-27-2020, 05:43 PM I'm just going by the numbers OSDH releases every day. The raw numbers show a 3% positive rate. That's all I can tell you. Correction: Positive rate 2%. Jersey Boss 06-27-2020, 06:36 PM Do we have to question any good news coming out of this? If the positive rate were 70%, would you be questioning the validity of the results? Lighten up Francis, I just wanted perspective. Jersey Boss 06-27-2020, 06:37 PM I'm just going by the numbers OSDH releases every day. The raw numbers show a 3% positive rate. That's all I can tell you. Thanks for the info and post. OKC Talker 06-27-2020, 07:50 PM On the 6/25 EOR there were 19k pending test results. On the 6/26 there were 6k reported and 6k pending. I think the 19k was a typo? Yes, it was a data-entry error that has been corrected. Your math is right but there was an error in the report. Unfortunately the misinformation is going to spread and people are going to use it to justify not taking further precautions. soonerguru 06-27-2020, 08:13 PM Here's an underappreciated shocker in today's results: Between Thursday and Friday, some 15,000 new test results, combined with 299 cases, drops our positive testing rate to 3%. Paul Monies reported today that our positive test rate is 4.3% and "trending up." SoonerDave 06-27-2020, 08:59 PM Paul Monies reported today that our positive test rate is 4.3% and "trending up." For what period? Thu: 6.4%, Fri: 6.9; Sat; 2.0. Ed Shadid 06-27-2020, 09:30 PM Today I went for rapid test in an Urgent Care Clinic in Lawton and was happy to have tested negative. In speaking with physician was told that their positive rate was 6% but was cautioned that the false negative rate (testing negative when one is actually positive) is about 18% for the Abbott rapid test. If one tests positive they can be very confident of the results but her concern, and that of so many others https://khn.org/news/abbott-rapid-test-problems-grow-fda-standards-on-covid-tests-under-fire/ is the false sense of security that a negative result may impart. I asked to have an antibody test on the same day to see if I had already been exposed and was told that my insurance carrier would not cover both the rapid test and the antibody test on the same day smh. Was told I could pay $75 or come back on another day to have it done. I'm sure this is how it is done in South Korea, New Zealand etc.. lol soonerguru 06-27-2020, 09:31 PM For what period? Thu: 6.4%, Fri: 6.9; Sat; 2.0. Here is the link. I suspect you are factoring in the obvious typo that showed 19k test results waiting. https://twitter.com/pmonies/status/1276911485860659200 soonerguru 06-27-2020, 09:31 PM For what period? Thu: 6.4%, Fri: 6.9; Sat; 2.0. Here is the link. I suspect you are factoring in the obvious typo that showed 19k test results waiting. https://twitter.com/pmonies/status/1276911485860659200 SoonerDave 06-27-2020, 09:39 PM Here is the link. I suspect you are factoring in the obvious typo that showed 19k test results waiting. https://twitter.com/pmonies/status/1276911485860659200 The 2.0% positive is based on number of positives reported today (299) divided by the difference between completed tests reported yesterday (312,454) and completed tests reported today (327,683), which is 15,229. That yields a final result of 299/15,229 which is actually .019 (1.9%). All data is taken from the daily summary OSDH mails out. PoliSciGuy 06-27-2020, 09:43 PM Yeah we had a *ton* of completed tests today C_M_25 06-27-2020, 10:13 PM I’m starting to see a theme peaking its head up more and more recently, but especially more so today. I’m seeing a lot of verbiage from various government officials all over the country at various levels mentioning shutting down again. Hospitalizations are skyrocketing all across the country. I don’t see anyway around shutting down again at this point. C_M_25 06-27-2020, 10:13 PM Question: Where are the quick turn around testing sites here in the city? Are there any? sayyes 06-27-2020, 11:17 PM Question: Where are the quick turn around testing sites here in the city? Are there any? First Med Urgent Care did mine today in 30 min. It’s the antigen test which is less accurate that the PCR test which takes days. You do have to book an appointment though. SoonerDave 06-28-2020, 07:22 AM First Med Urgent Care did mine today in 30 min. It’s the antigen test which is less accurate that the PCR test which takes days. You do have to book an appointment though. Lacie Lowry of KWTV did this very test and put it on FB the other day after finding out Dana Hertneky, her coworker, tested positive. Her own test was negative. She got her results in about 20 minutes. Pete 06-28-2020, 07:37 AM The U.S. had another record day in positive cases yesterday. jaredlovesivanka 06-28-2020, 10:08 AM The U.S. had another record day in positive cases yesterday. And trump went golfing...I know this is not a political thread, but how can anyone not place the root of our current situation at his feet for his apathy and ignorance of to this disease is beyond me. Please move this comment if it is deemed inappropriate. On a side note, I just returned from a trip to Lowes and was happy to see that 80%+ seemed to be masked, which seemed a big increase of the last time I was there two weeks ago or so. Hopefully we are learning and taking care of our fellow citizens by being proactive to slow the spread. WEAR A MASK, BE SAFE kukblue1 06-28-2020, 10:31 AM Shut down of Bars, restaurants, casinos would be where i would start with the roll back. Carryout only again. No large gatherings of more than 10. Has anyone heard anymore on the possible outbreak at Hobby Lobby? Pete 06-28-2020, 10:39 AM One of the failings of the Oklahoma system of reporting is there are no alerts about businesses that have had employees test positive. In just the last week or so, several places have closed after they self-reported: HiLo Club, The Pump, Social Capital, Revolucion... Just off the top of my head. But their closures and disclosures were voluntary. How many businesses that welcome people into their space have had positive cases that nobody knows about? There have been rumors about plenty of others. Not only is it dangerous, but how would people who have patronized these places know to get tested? Rover 06-28-2020, 10:44 AM I went to the Braums at May and 62nd yesterday. Not only was the staff preparing the food and waiting on customers not wearing masks, one was standing over the open ice cream containers scratching her scalp and repeatedly rubbing her nose then using the same hand to dip ice cream. It would be disgusting any time, but the lack of control and care of their customers at this particular time is abhorrent and totally irresponsible. It will be some time before I go back to Braums. Pete 06-28-2020, 10:51 AM Other restaurants that are temporarily closed due to employees testing positive: McClintock's Saloon Belinini's Sunnyside Edmond Pete 06-28-2020, 10:59 AM 302 new positive cases today. Ed Shadid 06-28-2020, 11:07 AM I am grateful for those on this board advocating for the utilization of masks. The comments in opposition are a small sampling of what needs to be overcome. This article addresses the obstacles we face in achieving widespread utilization, especially among men, which is what we collectively need to achieve. I am at a loss but clearly shaming, guilt etc.. is going to backfire. I have seen it in the high rise I live in where a female physician wrote everyone insisting on mask utilization and the response from the men in the building was ferocious in response and it seems to have made things so much worse. I believe eventually America will kneel and follow the lead of Asian economies/societies but I fear it will be too late to avoid catastrophic loss to our health, economies and stability. I would be grateful for any anecdotal success stories. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/dudes-who-wont-wear-masks/613375/ Here is a passage emphasizing the importance of empathy and the importance of meeting people's personal needs/preferences: "Let’s be real: Americans are beat-down and run-down after months of loss and social isolation. Masks do keep people from seeing facial expressions and hearing voices clearly, both vital elements of social connection. Masks don’t deprive people of oxygen, but they do make it harder to breathe freely. They fog up people’s glasses. They make noses itch and faces sweat. Many masks feel decidedly uncool. They are yet another thing to remember when walking out the front door. And, most of all, masks are a constant reminder of what Americans so desperately want to forget: that despite all of our sacrifices, the pandemic hasn’t gone anywhere. Empathy has its own kind of power. Acknowledging what people dislike about a public-health strategy enables a connection with them rather than alienating them further. And when the barriers are understood, they become addressable. When it became clear that people needed better condoms, companies began making them in all different shapes, sizes, and styles—ribbed, studded, impossibly thin, even glow-in-the-dark—to improve comfort, sensation, and people’s sense of individuality. Likewise, the government needs to support businesses in developing masks that are not only effective, but also fit well and feel good. People need a range of options, including face shields, that can help meet their personal needs and preferences. And people need face coverings that make them feel stylish, cool, and—yes—even manly. Bill Robertson 06-28-2020, 11:12 AM 302 new positive cases today.A month ago I’d have never thought that I’d feel pretty good about a couple days right around 300 new cases. How life has changed. kukblue1 06-28-2020, 11:13 AM The braums over by the outlet mall hasn't done much either. In fact the Whataburger McDonald's Subway and Taco Mayo still have their lobbies closes. Also today drive by the Jimmy Egg over there and packed people waiting to get in. At what point will it be too late and shutting thing down won't matter and hospitals are going to start filling up. 300 cases for a Sunday has to be a record and rather large one if that is it not? Will anyone be shocked if we got over 500 cases this week? Pete 06-28-2020, 11:14 AM Until 16 days ago, we'd never had anywhere close to 200 new cases per day. jaredlovesivanka 06-28-2020, 11:19 AM One of the failings of the Oklahoma system of reporting is there are no alerts about businesses that have had employees test positive. In just the last week or so, several places have closed after they self-reported: HiLo Club, The Pump, Social Capital, Revolucion... Just off the top of my head. But their closures and disclosures were voluntary. How many businesses that welcome people into their space have had positive cases that nobody knows about? There have been rumors about plenty of others. Not only is it dangerous, but how would people who have patronized these places know to get tested? My daughter worked at Ludivine - they have also closed due to a case. Be Safe, Wear a Mask. Pete 06-28-2020, 11:24 AM My daughter worked at Ludivine - they have also closed due to a case. Be Safe, Wear a Mask. Their social media says they will just be closed Saturday and Sunday. Of course, they could make a new post stating an extended closure. kukblue1 06-28-2020, 11:38 AM Until 16 days ago, we'd never had anywhere close to 200 new cases per day. I really don't understand what our governor and mayor are waiting on. The only number they care about is hospitalizations I'm here to tell them that the more people that get sick the more hospitalizations there's going to be. So why are we waiting until hospitals start getting full which I've been hearing that they already are Libbymin 06-28-2020, 11:49 AM The pump bar and bunker club had to close too because of a positive case. Jersey Boss 06-28-2020, 11:56 AM Norman will take action before either OKC or OK. When this started she showed what leadership looked like. Nice to have a mayor not beholden. Rover 06-28-2020, 12:08 PM I am grateful for those on this board advocating for the utilization of masks. The comments in opposition are a small sampling of what needs to be overcome. This article addresses the obstacles we face in achieving widespread utilization, especially among men, which is what we collectively need to achieve. I am at a loss but clearly shaming, guilt etc.. is going to backfire. I have seen it in the high rise I live in where a female physician wrote everyone insisting on mask utilization and the response from the men in the building was ferocious in response and it seems to have made things so much worse. I believe eventually America will kneel and follow the lead of Asian economies/societies but I fear it will be too late to avoid catastrophic loss to our health, economies and stability. I would be grateful for any anecdotal success stories. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/dudes-who-wont-wear-masks/613375/ Ed, When the top office holders of this nation quit deflecting and denying and start leading, it will be significant. There is a rigid 40% of the public eager to follow and to believe the divisive rhetoric, no matter what evidence is given. The constant attacks on the press and other authorities has denigrated their ability to communicate and lead in times of crisis. So, people believe whatever they want and what fits their fear structure. mkjeeves 06-28-2020, 12:08 PM A possible alternative for the mask averse, or in addition to a mask for the belt and suspenders crowd. I have one and I've been wearing it without a mask. It seems more social. Some Experts Say Face Shields Better Than Masks for Coronavirus Protection By now we know we should be wearing face masks to protect others from potentially deadly infection when we leave the house. But face masks can be hot, and they can irritate the skin, fog glasses, make it difficult for some to breathe and create a world without smiles. It also can be difficult for people who have hearing loss to communicate when mouths are covered, muffling voices and hiding facial expressions. Are clear plastic face shields, most frequently used in health care settings, a better option? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention continues to recommend wearing “cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.” But some health experts say shields appear to be very effective at preventing infection — maybe even more effective than masks — for someone going about regular daily activities and not in a high-risk health care setting. Amesh Adalja, M.D., a pandemic preparedness expert at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, says, “There's a lot of at least biological possibility to suspect that [shields] are definitely better than homemade face masks, and maybe even better than other types of masks as well, because they not only prevent you from spreading it … [and] because it also covers your eyes, it provides more protection to the mucus membranes of your face where you might be getting infected.” https://www.aarp.org/health/healthy-living/info-2020/shields-compared-to-masks.html SoonerDave 06-28-2020, 12:14 PM 302 new positive cases today. Unfortunately, the OSDH doesn't report the test return delta on Sundays so we can't assess the positive rate. At least I have not been able to find it. SoonerDave 06-28-2020, 12:16 PM A possible alternative for the mask averse, or in addition to a mask for the belt and suspenders crowd. I have one and I've been wearing it without a mask. It seems more social. Some Experts Say Face Shields Better Than Masks for Coronavirus Protection By now we know we should be wearing face masks to protect others from potentially deadly infection when we leave the house. But face masks can be hot, and they can irritate the skin, fog glasses, make it difficult for some to breathe and create a world without smiles. It also can be difficult for people who have hearing loss to communicate when mouths are covered, muffling voices and hiding facial expressions. Are clear plastic face shields, most frequently used in health care settings, a better option? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention continues to recommend wearing “cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.” But some health experts say shields appear to be very effective at preventing infection — maybe even more effective than masks — for someone going about regular daily activities and not in a high-risk health care setting. Amesh Adalja, M.D., a pandemic preparedness expert at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, says, “There's a lot of at least biological possibility to suspect that [shields] are definitely better than homemade face masks, and maybe even better than other types of masks as well, because they not only prevent you from spreading it … [and] because it also covers your eyes, it provides more protection to the mucus membranes of your face where you might be getting infected.” https://www.aarp.org/health/healthy-living/info-2020/shields-compared-to-masks.html If they proceed as planned with schools in the fall, face guards like these will become a practical necessity for teachers who rely on students' ability to see facial expressions and mouth movements for learning word and sound formation. I think guards are a great idea. chuck5815 06-28-2020, 12:16 PM Norman will take action before either OKC or OK. When this started she showed what leadership looked like. Nice to have a mayor not beholden. Well, I don’t know about that. Holt has been doing some excellent virtue signaling of his own over the past several months. Some very top shelf material on Social Media. Wild to think that he once worked for Dennis Hastert. Pete 06-28-2020, 12:40 PM Over 10,000 new cases in Florida today. Good grief. catch22 06-28-2020, 01:03 PM One of the failings of the Oklahoma system of reporting is there are no alerts about businesses that have had employees test positive. In just the last week or so, several places have closed after they self-reported: HiLo Club, The Pump, Social Capital, Revolucion... Just off the top of my head. But their closures and disclosures were voluntary. How many businesses that welcome people into their space have had positive cases that nobody knows about? There have been rumors about plenty of others. Not only is it dangerous, but how would people who have patronized these places know to get tested? They tried to have a mandatory system for Colorado where if you went to a restaurant you had to provide contact information to be held on file for 21 days, that way if staff or a guest tested positive on a date you were present you could be notified. That was swiftly done away with because of personal freedoms and such. It was a good idea, I think they have logbooks still but its only voluntarily. Pete 06-28-2020, 01:09 PM ^ Right, but equally effective would be a routine public posting of positive cases at eating establishments. At least that way, word would get out to people who had recently been there. Pete 06-28-2020, 01:42 PM BTW, I did some more research and learned that restaurants are required to report positive cases to the state. But the state doesn't make that public in any way; just require the infected employee to be quarantined. TheTravellers 06-28-2020, 02:27 PM The pump bar and bunker club had to close too because of a positive case. I'm just completely baffled by Bunker Club opening *at all* - the only way you could social distance at 6 ft is to have maybe 4 patrons in there at once. Libbymin 06-28-2020, 02:32 PM I just don’t see why bars need to be open at this point, especially those who cater to a younger crowd who are likely to ignore the social distancing guidelines once they get tipsy. |