478 new cases today and on a Saturday wow. How long before we're under a mandatory mask ordinance I would say no later by Monday morning

Their expertise is like throwing darts. One minute do this and the next do this. They just don't know and that's pretty much been proven. If enough people get this then the virus will lose it's steam like viruses in the past.

It’s almost like science is supposed to work, weird...

Their expertise is like throwing darts. One minute do this and the next do this. They just don't know and that's pretty much been proven. If enough people get this then the virus will lose it's steam like viruses in the past.

Do yourself a favor and google “Dunning-Kruger Effect.” I think you’ll find it enlightening

Mandatory mask order? Good Luck enforcing that.

478 today. We’re in trouble.

That is what happens when people refuse to social distance and possibly wear a mask. The big one is social distancing esp at stores and resturants. I have been talking myself hoarse at stores begging people to social distance. I am older with a bad knee and people refuse to social distance. I find myself spending 90% of my time dodging people. Yes I do try to do curbside pick up but when looking for parts to fix something around your house its not always an option. Most think older women only shop for clothes or food, not true, that is only about 20% of what I shop for. clothes only about 1% I hate clothing shopping. I am good with 5 pairs of the same jeans, and tops the same in 5 different colors. But please, please social distance. maybe now people will find the time to social distance shopping. People said to me, " I don't have the time for that".

Mandatory mask order? Good Luck enforcing that.


It would be hard to enforce, but without another shut down (because it won’t happen), this is the next best course of action to help stop these high case numbers.

Decent chance we cross 500 cases tomorrow.

Or by Tues. I hate to think what the numbers by Fri will be. Stores will have to enforce social distancing. If you do not social distance then you get thrown out. I was talking to a friend of mine in Penn. , The store by my friend are strict, no respect for social distancing then you are told to leave. Also some require masks in order to shop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOvENoZMmK4

Here’s what I posted a few days ago.
About mid March I had a bit of a sore throat, a degree or so of fever and just generally felt like crap for a week or so. And ever since then off and onI feel like someone is pushing on my chest trying to keep me from breathing. But not seriously enough that I ever worried about it. I did kind of wonder though.
One thing I forgot to add was I had the runs the first couple of days. My wife didn’t. It wasn’t listed as a symptom then but was later. And today is one of the not so good days for after effects. I feel like there’s a pressure on my chest and it feels odd to breathe. Not quite a burning sensation but something close. And I feel warm but am not running a fever.

Thank you Bill. I missed where you posted that, but I remember it now. My niece just recently tested positive and she describes the same pressure in her chest and run down no energy feeling, and loss of taste and smell. Her dad describes some of the same things but he had them back in December as well.

Yep, another record with 478 new cases reported today.

That's 3,310 new positives in just the last 13 days.

I cannot believe what Stitt said yesterday in an interview. Basically, “We are good!” Unreal. It was reported that hospitalizations are going up too. Any numbers Pete?

Their expertise is like throwing darts. One minute do this and the next do this. They just don't know and that's pretty much been proven. If enough people get this then the virus will lose it's steam like viruses in the past.

This is dangerous misinformation. We need less of that.

Yep, another record with 478 new cases reported today.

That's 3,310 new positives in just the last 13 days.

This is upsetting. I wonder if the general population is getting this information.

I wonder if they care. I talked to a friend the other day and the reply was, just more cases due to increased testing.

Was at Super Cao Nguyen this morning. It was interesting to see the different cultures and how serious they took it. Most of the asians had masks and some had faceshields. Non-asians not to much. a couple masks.

Just got back from taking my kids to their swim lessons at Goldfish. I was the only person, employee or customer, wearing a mask. We need a massive attitude shift, and fast.

Just got back from taking my kids to their swim lessons at Goldfish. I was the only person, employee or customer, wearing a mask. We need a massive attitude shift, and fast.

Agree but I brought up making mask mandatory on a news 9 facebook post and the people started to attack. People don't wear them right, they don't work, it can still get into your eyes any excuse possible. While I agree with people don't wear them right it's still better than nothing.

Just got back from taking my kids to their swim lessons at Goldfish. I was the only person, employee or customer, wearing a mask. We need a massive attitude shift, and fast.

I just finished shopping at Tinker, where mask wear is mandatory.

I guess it’s just the soft liberal military thing to do...

Just got back from taking my kids to their swim lessons at Goldfish. I was the only person, employee or customer, wearing a mask. We need a massive attitude shift, and fast.

That's crazy. I would have assumed most places like that require them in the lobbies. I know for TKD parents aren't allowed in the lobbies anymore (not that it'd work for Goldfish) but masks for anyone waiting would be easy enough.

478 new cases today and on a Saturday wow. How long before we're under a mandatory mask ordinance I would say no later by Monday morning

My guess it depends on if hospitalization spikes.

Does anyone know, positively, how long it takes new hospitalizations to be reported. If test results are a week to two weeks after the sample collection but hospitalizations are reported pretty much currently then today’s hospitalizations are the result of our first days of really big positive test numbers. If hospitalizations are delayed also then we’re still seeing hospitalizations from before the spike. Some death reports are delayed and some are current. The reports give date ranges for deaths.

It really depends on speed of testing.

For us, reporting of results for samples we submitted went from 9 days to 2.

It really depends on speed of testing.

For us, reporting of results for samples we submitted went from 9 days to 2.
OK. I don’t see why hospitalizations would be delayed. You’re admitted and bam, you’re on the report. So I would take from this that the hospitalizations and death numbers are not going up at the exponential rate that positive test results are. I see this as a good thing until proven otherwise.

OK. I don’t see why hospitalizations would be delayed. You’re admitted and bam, you’re on the report. So I would take from this that the hospitalizations and death numbers are not going up at the exponential rate that positive test results are. I see this as a good thing until proven otherwise.

It would depend on who is doing the testing and why. If your test is a part of being hospitalized, then they should report at the same time. But if you’re just being tested as surveillance, or if you have initial mild symptoms, then you could have a positive reported within a couple of days and then need hospitalization down the road.

Lots of variables really.

Mandatory mask order? Good Luck enforcing that.

Why, Initial case, warning, then $25 fine 1st Offense, $50 2nd, $100 Third, $200 Fourth, $500 Fifth, $1,000 sixth then start jail time after that. Sooner or later the message will be clear.

It would depend on who is doing the testing and why. If your test is a part of being hospitalized, then they should report at the same time. But if you’re just being tested as surveillance, or if you have initial mild symptoms, then you could have a positive reported within a couple of days and then need hospitalization down the road.

Lots of variables really.My point, in a nutshell, is that the idea of reporting of contracting to symptoms to testing to results to hospitalization doesn’t look like the month process it was in March and April. At least for the most part.

According to the weekly epidemiology report, it’s about a week from symptoms to hospitalization. Check out page 9 for good stats on the timeline: https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/sites/g/files/gmc786/f/2020.06.19_weekly_epi_report.pdf

So for those of you that hate mask and don't want to wear a mask and think they don't work would you be okay with another shut down. If hospitals start filling up it could be a possibility. I think that's the only way another shutdown happens but it is possible

So for those of you that hate mask and don't want to wear a mask and think they don't work would you be okay with another shut down. If hospitals start filling up it could be a possibility. I think that's the only way another shutdown happens but it is possible

Just last night, we had a political rally in this state where the President of the U.S. had previously mocked people for wearing masks and our governor and two state senators sat in the middle of a big indoors crowd during by far the biggest spike in local cases during a global pandemic, none of them wearing face coverings.

No way is this ever going to be mandatory and the majority in our state are merely following the example of their 'leaders'.

I just finished shopping at Tinker, where mask wear is mandatory.

I guess it’s just the soft liberal military thing to do...

Just got back from Home Depot and only seen a few people wearing a mask. Maybe 2% seriously. I would say that it appears that most have given up listening to the so called experts. This thing is just going to have to run it's course it appears. Hopefully they can save a good percentage of the ones that get really sick with this virus before they come up with a vaccine.

Just last night, we had a political rally in this state where the President of the U.S. had previously mocked people for wearing masks and our governor and two state senators sat in the middle of a big indoors crowd during by far the biggest spike in local cases during a global pandemic, none of them wearing face coverings.

No way is this ever going to be mandatory and the majority in our state are merely following the example of their 'leaders'.
So very true and sad. I don’t want to get political. I know that’s a no no. But I’ve been a Trump and Stitt supporter. Even if it’s because the alternatives were way worse. It’s getting hard to toe that line now.

According to the weekly epidemiology report, it’s about a week from symptoms to hospitalization. Check out page 9 for good stats on the timeline: https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/sites/g/files/gmc786/f/2020.06.19_weekly_epi_report.pdfI have. So it still looks to me like the “month” from test result reporting to hospitalization isn’t the case currently. More like a week to ten days or so.

Just last night, we had a political rally in this state where the President of the U.S. had previously mocked people for wearing masks and our governor and two state senators sat in the middle of a big indoors crowd during by far the biggest spike in local cases during a global pandemic, none of them wearing face coverings.

No way is this ever going to be mandatory and the majority in our state are merely following the example of their 'leaders'.

I am sure one of them will get sick eventually.

Politicians also get immaculate medical care so and the end of the day it is a wash.

Just last night, we had a political rally in this state where the President of the U.S. had previously mocked people for wearing masks and our governor and two state senators sat in the middle of a big indoors crowd during by far the biggest spike in local cases during a global pandemic, none of them wearing face coverings.

No way is this ever going to be mandatory and the majority in our state are merely following the example of their 'leaders'.

Well, if no leaders come down with the virus, it will be like they have been setting a good example. Maybe it will take both Trump and Pence hospitalized with the virus at the same time to get a lot more people to wear masks. I hope Sen. Lankford doesn't become ill, because he was the only elected leader I noticed who was wearing a mask at the rally.

Why, Initial case, warning, then $25 fine 1st Offense, $50 2nd, $100 Third, $200 Fourth, $500 Fifth, $1,000 sixth then start jail time after that. Sooner or later the message will be clear.. Sounds like Communist China thinking. Like I said, ain’t gonna happen.

. Sounds like Communist China thinking. Like I said, ain’t gonna happen.

Ah yes, light fines are definitely communism. And is this before or after you claim Bill Gates will inject us with microchips?

Ah yes, light fines are definitely communism. And is this before or after you claim Bill Gates will inject us with microchips? Socialism more like it. Sorry PoliSciGuy, my fault.

Just last night, we had a political rally in this state where the President of the U.S. had previously mocked people for wearing masks and our governor and two state senators sat in the middle of a big indoors crowd during by far the biggest spike in local cases during a global pandemic, none of them wearing face coverings.

No way is this ever going to be mandatory and the majority in our state are merely following the example of their 'leaders'.

James Lankford and his wife did wear a mask at the event btw.

Socialism more like it. Sorry PoliSciGuy, my fault.

Exactly, no god fearing capitalist country has ever assessed fines.

Exactly, no god fearing capitalist country has ever assessed fines.

He’s just throwing out every conservative buzzword insult he can think of. Fully prepared to be called a snowflake soon.

100% support mandatory mask wearing. It will only happen when/if it gets so bad the hospitals are overflowing with dead people in refrigerated trailers and our so called leaders losing some friends and relatives.

Their expertise is like throwing darts. One minute do this and the next do this. They just don't know and that's pretty much been proven. If enough people get this then the virus will lose it's steam like viruses in the past.

Epidemiologists have saved thousands of lives. They are experts. Unfortunately, we have a public that is scientifically illiterate and struggles to understand their research and advice.


. Sounds like Communist China thinking. Like I said, ain’t gonna happen.

Or just like regular public health laws in the United States that you follow everyday.


Socialism more like it. Sorry PoliSciGuy, my fault.

Do you have any idea what socialism is? It seems like you’re trying to reference communism, which is obviously absurd.

The left thinks it can legislate to good outcomes. It fundamentally misunderstands human nature. I want the best outcomes available for the population, and I believe the left's petty fines will do more harm than good.

Lol. “Human nature” like many countries that have done this successfully. I guess they’re not humans.

Wearing masks I just needs to become normal and people will do it. Laws change behavior all the time.

Good COVID-19 policy is not that hard, but man, people are determined to make this long and hard. And it will be. A lot of people will suffer needlessly. And it’s going to hurt the economy along the way.

Good COVID-19 policy is not that hard, but man, people are determined to make this long and hard. And it will be. A lot of people will suffer needlessly. And it’s going to hurt the economy along the way.

Agreed. Peddling nonsense in a Pandemic should not be happening on this forum.

James Lankford and his wife did wear a mask at the event btw.

Not for all of it.

Here is a photo he posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea94sdCWoAAEj8T?format=jpg&name=large

Yesterday set another record for new global cases.

Good COVID-19 policy is not that hard, but man, people are determined to make this long and hard. And it will be. A lot of people will suffer needlessly. And it’s going to hurt the economy along the way.

Right.

Not sure why a lot of people think completely ignoring the threat is the best way to keep the economy going.

If everybody got on board with social distancing & proper mask wearing, a lot of life could go back to normal for 95% of the population. We keep the numbers depressed & people start to gain more & more confidence in entering back in to society.

If we ignore the virus even exists, more & more people get sick, the numbers go through the roof & a large % of the population makes a conscious choice to not participate in the economy even without a forced government lock down.

Not for all of it.

Here is a photo he posted:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea94sdCWoAAEj8T?format=jpg&name=large

:Smiley130

This may be the most powerful story I've read yet about the pandemic. Hopefully since it's Covid-19 related it will not be behind the pay wall.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/21/paramedic-new-york-city-coronavirus/?arc404=true


"I’ve been on the scene at more than 200 of these deaths — trying to revive people, consoling their families — but you can’t even be bothered to stay six feet apart and wear a mask, because why? You’re a tough guy? It makes you look weak? You’d rather ignore the whole thing and pretend you’re invincible?"

218 new cases today.

I know it's a drop because it is coming off of a weekend, but I'll take the good news.

Fully expecting it to be higher tomorrow.

Keep in mind that 218 is a record for a Monday and last Monday, leading into a week that saw incredibly high numbers, the total was 186. And until 10 days ago, 218 would have been a single-day record.

There have been 39 new hospitalizations counting today and Sunday.

There were no additional deaths reported today.

. Sounds like Communist China thinking. Like I said, ain’t gonna happen.

So, is that a bad thing?

China Coronavirus Cases:
83,396
Deaths:
4,634

US Coronavirus Cases

Coronavirus Cases:
2,365,907
Deaths:
122,318

So, is that a bad thing?

China Coronavirus Cases:
83,396
Deaths:
4,634

US Coronavirus Cases

Coronavirus Cases:
2,365,907
Deaths:
122,318

If you believe those numbers for China, I have some oceanfront property in North Dakota I want to sell you.

And it is easier for a communist country to impose countrywide lockdowns than it is the US, due to the Constitution (that damned little piece of paper).

Feel free to move to political forum, but I was just responding to a post on here.

Right.

Not sure why a lot of people think completely ignoring the threat is the best way to keep the economy going.

If everybody got on board with social distancing & proper mask wearing, a lot of life could go back to normal for 95% of the population. We keep the numbers depressed & people start to gain more & more confidence in entering back in to society.

If we ignore the virus even exists, more & more people get sick, the numbers go through the roof & a large % of the population makes a conscious choice to not participate in the economy even without a forced government lock down.

Nothing demonstrates that more than the lousy turnout at Trump’s rally. It was supposed to be a statement that America has put the virus behind us and we are “back in business.” Tens of thousands were predicted to attend. But, even Trump’s fans thought better of packing a rally that holds 19,000. Based on numbers provided by the Tulsa Fire Department, the arena was basically 2/3 empty. Similar turnouts can be expected at our restaurants and businesses until the Covid denier faction straps on the masks, takes simple recommended precautions, and just gets with the program.

It was always the case where life wouldn't get back to normal until an effective vaccine was development. Nothing has changed with that.

People either don't want to deal with a mask and stay home or they are too afraid to go out and stay home. Same effect to the economy either way.

I saw Hurricane Harbor is reopening. I'm not sure how that is suppose to work out. How do you keep masks dry?

It was always the case where life wouldn't get back to normal until an effective vaccine was development. Nothing has changed with that.

People either don't want to deal with a mask and stay home or they are too afraid to go out and stay home. Same effect to the economy either way.

I saw Hurricane Harbor is reopening. I'm not sure how that is suppose to work out. How do you keep masks dry?

it is very possible that there will NEVER be an effective vaccine

If you believe those numbers for China, I have some oceanfront property in North Dakota I want to sell you.

And it is easier for a communist country to impose countrywide lockdowns than it is the US, due to the Constitution (that damned little piece of paper).

Feel free to move to political forum, but I was just responding to a post on here.

Agreed that the numbers out of China are suspect, but the ones out of Florida and Georgia, among other states are also suspect.

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-coronavirus-cdc-numbers-higher-20200519-sjxsekehvfasfhxw4abtwmbdwq-story.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/20/us/florida-georgia-covid-19-test-data/index.html

Keep in mind that 218 is a record for a Monday and last Monday, leading into a week that saw incredibly high numbers, the total was 186. And until 10 days ago, 218 would have been a single-day record.

There have been 39 new hospitalizations counting today and Sunday.

There were no additional deaths reported today.

How many are currently hospitalized? Why hasn't the EOR reports updated since the 19th? This is the key week for hospitalizations. With all the positive test results the last 10 days I would imagine the would go up possibly way up. 39 in two day while bad could be a lot worse with how many have been testing positive. If they stay flat or fairly low that is a good sign.