I really hope holt implements a mask requirement.

Here are the new positives over the last 11 days:

352
450
259
228
186
158
225
222
146
117
158

This represents well more than double any previous 11-day span, and of course the trend seems to be accelerating.

Yes:

352 new cases
26 new hospitalizations
1 new death

That's 2,501 new cases in just the last 11 days.

And of course, until yesterday, 352 new cases would have still been 100 cases more than the previous record high.

Unreal.

https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/status/1274011829828812801


Breakdown:
Tulsa Co.: +125
Oklahoma Co.: +85
Cleveland Co.: +15
McCurtain Co.: +19

No surprise that the metro areas are the hotbeds, but man Tulsa is in for a long six weeks after this weekend

Today over yesterday:

Tulsa Co. +125
OK Co. +85

Population for reference:
Tulsa County 651,000
OK County 797,000

I wear a mask and social distance. I try to politely ask people to keep the 6 ft but they come back with, you are wearing a mask so you don't have to worry about social distancing. Yah and the person saying this is not social distancing and refusing to as well as not wearing a mask. They don't get it. Paper and or cloth masks don't protect you from the virus but protects others. And this is in Edmond with a supposite high education level.

Whats strange is deaths are not increasing. Could it be more have built in immunity yet test positive now?

Does anyone have the death toll tally over the past few months by day or week? I would be curious to see it.

Whats strange is deaths are not increasing. Could it be more have built in immunity yet test positive now?

Does anyone have the death toll tally over the past few months by day or week? I would be curious to see it.

Holt said the new cases over the last few weeks have been disproportionately young people so that’s probably why the deaths have stayed low.

Whats strange is deaths are not increasing. Could it be more have built in immunity yet test positive now?

Does anyone have the death toll tally over the past few months by day or week? I would be curious to see it.

Deaths lag by about a month. We won't see the deaths from this uptick for another 2-3 weeks. We're seeing the death numbers from the last couple weeks of relatively low case counts.

Our seroprevalence is around 4-5%, nowhere near herd immunity.

Florida just reported nearly 4,000 new cases which means their increase was more than double that of ours in per capita terms.

And yesterday, WHO reported the largest ever increase in cases world-wide.

Florida just reported nearly 4,000 new cases which means their increase was more than double that of ours in per capita terms.

And yesterday, WHO reported the largest ever increase in cases world-wide.

Jeepers.

Holt said the new cases over the last few weeks have been disproportionately young people so that’s probably why the deaths have stayed low.

Thanks, that makes sense.

And now there's this idiocy that's going to add to the cases - do they *really* think most people are going to be wearing masks voluntarily? Hasn't happened yet, won't happen ever unless it's made mandatory, and even then.... It's not about politics, it's about science, FFS, how about you do what's right instead of pandering!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amc-masks-political-controversy_n_5eecb096c5b63ad95da91c0c

“We did not want to be drawn into a political controversy,” Aron told Variety. “We thought it might be counterproductive if we forced mask wearing on those people who believe strongly that it is not necessary. We think that the vast majority of AMC guests will be wearing masks. When I go to an AMC feature, I will certainly be wearing a mask and leading by example.”

Mask wearing is political. The govt made it political when they flip flopped on the recommendation.

Mask wearing is political. The govt made it political when they flip flopped on the recommendation.

What a silly argument. This is a novel virus, so we have more information now than we did 4 months and all the information and experiences and experiments show that wearing a mask absolutely slows down the spread of the virus. To say that this is political because leaders changed their recommendation on better information is ridiculous.

What a silly argument. This is a novel virus, so we have more information now than we did 4 months and all the information and experiences and experiments show that wearing a mask absolutely slows down the spread of the virus. To say that this is political because leaders changed their recommendation on better information is ridiculous.

Leaders could lead by example but refuse to do so. How many people would put on a mask if Trump/Pense/Stitt showed up *anywhere* wearing a politically neutral mask? (As opposed to one saying MAGA for instance.)

They have pretty much done the opposite. Lead the other direction.

I dont think wearing a mask should be political. I am a conservative Republican, I wear a mask when out in public. Its about stopping or slowing the virus. Can mask wearing just be show your support of your school? High school or college and not make this a political issue? Wear a cloth one with your team colors or school logo. If there is a remote chance this will help slow the spread and save a life, let us wear our masks until this is over. I understand its a bit difficult for people at their jobs. Allow more breaks and allow for more distance. Those who work in stores, well don't crowd them, walk around the area that they are working, Give them more breaks. Just be kind.

What a silly argument. This is a novel virus, so we have more information now than we did 4 months and all the information and experiences and experiments show that wearing a mask absolutely slows down the spread of the virus. To say that this is political because leaders changed their recommendation on better information is ridiculous.

Some leaders didn't change their recommendations when better science became available (I did, I was against mask-wearing in the beginning, but am not now), they actively were/are against mask-wearing, and their followers, well, followed them, or at the very least, the leaders said "Yeah, whatever on masks, it's on you" rather than using actual science that shows mask-wearing works. So yeah, the assertion of "leaders changed their recommendation on better information" is actually ridiculous, but the assertion that it's political because some leaders are actively anti-science is not ridiculous.

Mask wearing is political. The govt made it political when they flip flopped on the recommendation.
Horse****.

They really screwed the situation up, but the science behind masks is indisputable. They make a difference.

Some leaders didn't change their recommendations when better science became available (I did, I was against mask-wearing in the beginning, but am not now), they actively were/are against mask-wearing, and their followers, well, followed them, or at the very least, the leaders said "Yeah, whatever on masks, it's on you" rather than using actual science that shows mask-wearing works. So yeah, the assertion of "leaders changed their recommendation on better information" is actually ridiculous, but the assertion that it's political because some leaders are actively anti-science is not ridiculous.

Fauci, the Surgeon General, WHO and the CDC all switched their stances on masks. There's more to leadership than just POTUS, though POTUS could do a *lot* to change minds if he would just wear a danged mask.

I just don't totally understand why wearing a mask is even that big a deal to begin with. You go into a grocery store for maybe 15 minutes and put it on and then you can take it off when you get to your car. It's really not that big a deal. Some people will say that they're not worried about getting sick, but I don't want YOU to get ME sick. And I'm wearing my mask so I don't get YOU sick.

I think some of it is that, as a general rule, people don't like being told what to do, especially if it comes from the government.

Totally agree with you. Make of list of stuff you need go into the store get it an leave. I went to the meat market only one wearing a mask i was in there a total of 8 minutes that is all i had to wear the mask. Home depot to return something and do a quick look for something 7 minutes total that is all i had to wear the mask.

Totally agree with you. Make of list of stuff you need go into the store get it an leave. I went to the meat market only one wearing a mask i was in there a total of 8 minutes that is all i had to wear the mask. Home depot to return something and do a quick look for something 7 minutes total that is all i had to wear the mask.

The refusal to wear masks has nothing to do with how easy it is to do it, it has to do with political beliefs, pretty much full stop. The rational people that believe in science will wear them, the ones that don't believe science or want to prove a point will refuse.

And now there's this idiocy that's going to add to the cases - do they *really* think most people are going to be wearing masks voluntarily? Hasn't happened yet, won't happen ever unless it's made mandatory, and even then.... It's not about politics, it's about science, FFS, how about you do what's right instead of pandering!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amc-masks-political-controversy_n_5eecb096c5b63ad95da91c0c

“We did not want to be drawn into a political controversy,” Aron told Variety. “We thought it might be counterproductive if we forced mask wearing on those people who believe strongly that it is not necessary. We think that the vast majority of AMC guests will be wearing masks. When I go to an AMC feature, I will certainly be wearing a mask and leading by example.”

Apparently AMC figured out they need to do the right thing:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/amc-masks-political-controversy_n_5eecb096c5b63ad95da91c0c

Horse****.

They really screwed the situation up, but the science behind masks is indisputable. They make a difference.

Yeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion, Man.

Yeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion, Man.
No, it’s not.

Florida just reported nearly 4,000 new cases which means their increase was more than double that of ours in per capita terms.

And yesterday, WHO reported the largest ever increase in cases world-wide.

Thunder Up!

Yeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion, Man.

Ok, that made me laugh.

I dont think wearing a mask should be political. I am a conservative Republican, I wear a mask when out in public. Its about stopping or slowing the virus. Can mask wearing just be show your support of your school? High school or college and not make this a political issue? Wear a cloth one with your team colors or school logo. If there is a remote chance this will help slow the spread and save a life, let us wear our masks until this is over. I understand its a bit difficult for people at their jobs. Allow more breaks and allow for more distance. Those who work in stores, well don't crowd them, walk around the area that they are working, Give them more breaks. Just be kind.

I like you

Whats strange is deaths are not increasing. Could it be more have built in immunity yet test positive now?

Does anyone have the death toll tally over the past few months by day or week? I would be curious to see it.

Hospitalizations lag positive transmissions by a couple of weeks, then, deaths lag hospitalizations another week or two.

Mask wearing is political. The govt made it political when they flip flopped on the recommendation.

It has been revealed that initial guidance on not wearing masks was to ensure PPE supplies would be available for medical facilities. Also, there was probably some faint hope that the USA would not become literally the worst country at dealing with this virus. The guidance changed when it became obvious we would make Italy and Iran look adept at handling Covid-19.

It has been revealed that initial guidance on not wearing masks was to ensure PPE supplies would be available for medical facilities. Also, there was probably some faint hope that the USA would not become literally the worst country at dealing with this virus. The guidance changed when it became obvious we would make Italy and Iran look adept at handling Covid-19.

The science of masks was always there and it was stupid messaging to imply otherwise as the CDC and states did. I posted this article over three months ago detailing that all experts knew masks should be worn: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html

If everyone wears a mask, home-made or not, I think this how we will be able to bring things back to normal. We cant just leave things shutdown for months. Universal mask wearing has to become a thing, sick or not. If everyone is wearing one, the respiratory droplets stay close and wont infect others if you are asymptomatic or healthy. Sick or not, wear a damn mask.

Yeah, my opinion has not changed. Wear your damn mask. It ain't a political issue. We all want this **** over with. We were doing OK until everyone decided this **** was over and started going maskless again.

The science of masks was always there and it was stupid messaging to imply otherwise as the CDC and states did. I posted this article over three months ago detailing that all experts knew masks should be worn: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html

Amazingly enough, controversial virologist Judy Mikovits PhD, advises healthy people against wearing masks, because it suppresses the immunity system. She even thinks social distancing is a bad idea. It hurts you not to hug people. It's immune suppressive. If desired, you can hear her here in an hour long interview: https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PBE030B438R8H

Amazingly enough, controversial virologist Judy Mikovits PhD, advises healthy people against wearing masks, because it suppresses the immunity system. She even thinks social distancing is a bad idea. It hurts you not to hug people. It's immune suppressive. If desired, you can hear her here in an hour long interview: https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PBE030B438R8H

I’m sorry, but I can’t get onboard with this argument. Our immune system is based on memory. We get vaccines as children that last a lifetime. Keeping harmful bacteria and viruses from entering your body for a few months is not suddenly going to make your immune system inept at doing its job.

Having managed the development of some UVC air sterilization products in the past, and working with various doctors, air hygiene specialists, immunologists, etc. on the applications, they all led me to believe that our basic immunity system is more fully developed as young children, if it isn't altered by our genetics. During that time it is normal and healthy to be exposed and the young body to build protection against those things for later life. However, any rational medical person advises vaccinations against things like tuberculosis, polio, small pox, measles, etc. Things of those nature will cause permanent and lasting damage on young kids and others, so you don't want them unprotected. Purposefully allowing or causing a population to be exposed or unprotected from a virus that we have seen be highly threatening, and one which we are just now figuring out the ramification of exposure on various populations segments, is reckless and potentially very dangerous. The idea of purposefully trying to create herd immunity is also reckless and potentially dangerous. The willingness to sacrifice whole segments of our population by those who think they are immune from the disease itself is pretty narcissistic, in my opinion.

I think a society's ethos includes who it chooses to protect. The sacrificing of large numbers of weak, compromised, or aged population when there are alternatives seems to me to be very un-Christian and against the very ideals of the America we tell the world we are. We just need to live up to what we preach.

Having managed the development of some UVC air sterilization products in the past, and working with various doctors, air hygiene specialists, immunologists, etc. on the applications, they all led me to believe that our basic immunity system is more fully developed as young children, if it isn't altered by our genetics. During that time it is normal and healthy to be exposed and the young body to build protection against those things for later life. However, any rational medical person advises vaccinations against things like tuberculosis, polio, small pox, measles, etc. Things of those nature will cause permanent and lasting damage on young kids and others, so you don't want them unprotected. Purposefully allowing or causing a population to be exposed or unprotected from a virus that we have seen be highly threatening, and one which we are just now figuring out the ramification of exposure on various populations segments, is reckless and potentially very dangerous. The idea of purposefully trying to create herd immunity is also reckless and potentially dangerous. The willingness to sacrifice whole segments of our population by those who think they are immune from the disease itself is pretty narcissistic, in my opinion.

I think a society's ethos includes who it chooses to protect. The sacrificing of large numbers of weak, compromised, or aged population when there are alternatives seems to me to be very un-Christian and against the very ideals of the America we tell the world we are. We just need to live up to what we preach.

Well said!

Only 331 today. The downward trend continues.

Amazingly enough, controversial virologist Judy Mikovits PhD, advises healthy people against wearing masks, because it suppresses the immunity system. She even thinks social distancing is a bad idea. It hurts you not to hug people. It's immune suppressive. If desired, you can hear her here in an hour long interview: https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PBE030B438R8H

Judy Mikovits was the subject of that conspiracy theory Plannedemic "documentary" and has absolutely 0 credibility, as she's an anti-vaxxer among other things. Not even worth listening to.

Anyways, here are the updates for today, courtesy of https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/status/1274374252712661004:

Oklahoma's daily #COVID19 numbers via the Oklahoma State Department of Health.

- 10,037 cases (+331 )
- 368 reported deaths (+1)
- 197 hospitalizations (confirmed & suspected, as of 6/19)
- 4% overall positive rate (as of 6/18)

New high for 7-day avg.

Great day to hold a massive indoor rally

That's 2,832 new cases in just the last 12 days.

These are the last 5 days of new hospitalizations; again record numbers:

20
26
37
16
13

Amazingly enough, controversial virologist Judy Mikovits PhD, advises healthy people against wearing masks, because it suppresses the immunity system. She even thinks social distancing is a bad idea. It hurts you not to hug people. It's immune suppressive. If desired, you can hear her here in an hour long interview: https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PBE030B438R8H

Why do you keep spreading health misinformation? You've been doing it on this site for months. It's irresponsible and can result in people suffering. Please be more responsible.

As others pointed out, this conspiracy theory garbage.

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Can somebody confirm if that’s Tulsa’s skyline on the previous post. I’m not as familiar with the downtown area up there.

That's Chicago, not Tulsa.

Thank you. I removed the photo.

And KFOR just reported that 6 staffers setting up the rally have tested positive. This rally could be the most STUPID thing I have seen in my 61 years.

These are the last 5 days of new hospitalizations; again record numbers:

20
26
37
16
13

How many have left the Hospital in this time cause numbers haven't really gone up for total number of people currently in hospital.

Why do you keep spreading health misinformation? You've been doing it on this site for months. It's irresponsible and can result in people suffering. Please be more responsible.

As others pointed out, this conspiracy theory garbage.

Thank you.

Since my antibodies test was high enough that the Ok Dept Of Health asked me to donate plasma I thought I’d tell my employees, that I had been near in March when I think I had it, that I had COVID back then. Oh my gosh!! I have more insight now into why this stuff is spreading. 90% of my employees were somewhere between:

It’s all completely made up.

Bill Gates and Dr Fauci created it to promote their agendas so there’s way more positives reported than there really are.

Hospitals get more funding with more cases reported so there’s way more positives reported than there really are.

You probably didn’t have it. You had a flu shot and that results in a positive COVID result.

OMG!!! The stuff people believe except for this thing being real and serious!!

Why do you keep spreading health misinformation? You've been doing it on this site for months. It's irresponsible and can result in people suffering. Please be more responsible.

As others pointed out, this conspiracy theory garbage.

It people like Mikovits who are quite irresponsible, along with people who interview her who do little to nothing to challenge her off the wall points.

And KFOR just reported that 6 staffers setting up the rally have tested positive. This rally could be the most STUPID thing I have seen in my 61 years.

Building heard immunity. I really think that's the only way we are going to get through this.

Building heard immunity. I really think that's the only way we are going to get through this.
While I don’t think we’re close to herd immunity I do wonder how many people have had it an don’t know. At 61 years old and not in great shape I apparently had it with VERY minor symptoms. And my wife had pretty much exactly the same symptoms a week after I did. She hasn’t been tested for antibodies but........? We were both working the whole time. How many people could we have transmitted it to. And so on and so on and so on.

Building heard immunity. I really think that's the only way we are going to get through this.

How many people are going to post about herd immunity who don't understand how herd immunity works? Getting to herd immunity is pretty much the definition of *not* getting through this successfully. Aside from the estimated massive amount of sickness and death that would require, we don't even know who gets immunity and for how long. Some new studies suggest that the 35% who are asymptomatic may only have immunity for a short time.

Only 331 today. The downward trend continues.

I assume you're joking here? 331 for a Saturday is horrendous.

I assume you're joking here? 331 for a Saturday is horrendous.

Got to keep the non believers happy. :)

I assume you're joking here? 331 for a Saturday is horrendous.

Dude,most of these are from over a week ago. The testing turnaround sucks in Oklahoma. These aren't from Friday.

Building heard immunity. I really think that's the only way we are going to get through this.

No epidemiologist recommends this strategy. I think we should defer to their expertise here.

While I don’t think we’re close to herd immunity I do wonder how many people have had it an don’t know. At 61 years old and not in great shape I apparently had it with VERY minor symptoms. And my wife had pretty much exactly the same symptoms a week after I did. She hasn’t been tested for antibodies but........? We were both working the whole time. How many people could we have transmitted it to. And so on and so on and so on.

Bill, do you mind me asking what you and your wife’s symptoms were?. My wife and I both think we may have had it early on, back in December-January. For the past several weeks I’ve be experiencing a dry cough, congestion and runny nose. I’ve been doing a lot of yard work for for various folks, plus we had half of the Texas panhandle floating around in the air over the past week or so, so i figured it was just allergies. I’ve had no headaches, fever, heavy chest or run down feeling.

My brother experienced the same things, so he went and got tested for anibodies. Attached is a copy of the paper he received, which is very vague.

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Bill, do you mind me asking what you and your wife’s symptoms were?. My wife and I both think we may have had it early on, back in December-January. For the past several weeks I’ve be experiencing a dry cough, congestion and runny nose. I’ve been doing a lot of yard work for for various folks, plus we had half of the Texas panhandle floating around in the air over the past week or so, so i figured it was just allergies. I’ve had no headaches, fever, heavy chest or run down feeling.

My brother experienced the same things, so he went and got tested for anibodies. Attached is a copy of the paper he received, which is very vague.

16179 Here’s what I posted a few days ago.
About mid March I had a bit of a sore throat, a degree or so of fever and just generally felt like crap for a week or so. And ever since then off and onI feel like someone is pushing on my chest trying to keep me from breathing. But not seriously enough that I ever worried about it. I did kind of wonder though.
One thing I forgot to add was I had the runs the first couple of days. My wife didn’t. It wasn’t listed as a symptom then but was later. And today is one of the not so good days for after effects. I feel like there’s a pressure on my chest and it feels odd to breathe. Not quite a burning sensation but something close. And I feel warm but am not running a fever.

No epidemiologist recommends this strategy. I think we should defer to their expertise here.

Their expertise is like throwing darts. One minute do this and the next do this. They just don't know and that's pretty much been proven. If enough people get this then the virus will lose it's steam like viruses in the past.