Oklahoma isn't the only state seeing record high numbers though. I guess protesting and being in large crowds not a good idea after all.

SHUT IT DOWN. Sorry it's got to happen. Someone needs to have the balls and say you all didn't listen. You stopped wearing mask. You gathered in large protest So now we have to close everything again for 3 weeks. Maybe next time when we open things back up you all would of learned a lesson and wear a mask.


I don’t think them closing anything down is happening anytime soon. I think I read a quote yesterday from the new State Health Commissioner who basically said “we have no plans to go backwards.”

So I guess we just have to get through it, or have the hospitals fill and hundreds start dying

Oklahoma isn't the only state seeing record high numbers though. I guess protesting and being in large crowds not a good idea after all.

There is no evidence that this is tied to protests.

Lots of places have had more and bigger protests and aren't seeing these types of increases.

It has much more to do with Oklahomans being too damn stupid to wear masks regularly because politics.

From estimates I’ve listened to, maybe 3-6% of cases could be attributed to protests, but people not wearing masks (and no one enforcing it) is going to be a bigger long term cause.

Unfortunately, an indoor rally with followers prone to partisan health misinformation is setting the stage for a super spreading event. Ain’t good.

Oklahoma isn't the only state seeing record high numbers though. I guess protesting and being in large crowds not a good idea after all.

If protests were tied to this, we'd expect to see massive increases in Minnesota, New York, Pennsylvania and Georgia. The data isn't showing this.

I for one will continue to wear my masks and wash/sanitize my hands and everything around the office, cars, house, etc. even though I’ve apparently had it already. Just to be safe.

If protests were tied to this, we'd expect to see massive increases in Minnesota, New York, Pennsylvania and Georgia. The data isn't showing this.
More herd immunity? Those states had huge numbers before?

Let’s not get into a pissing contest. I supported the protests. They are unquestionably responsible for some spread. But to say there’s none or to blame huge bumps on them reflects partisan lenses more than reality. No one knows exact numbers. The bigger point is that things are going the wrong direction in Oklahoma.

More herd immunity? Those states had huge numbers before?

That’s not how herd immunity works. No place has herd immunity in the US or is even close to it.

The wife and I were talking about donating blood just so we can get the antibody test.

I got tested for antibodies (I was negative) the day before they announced you could get tested for free if you gave blood... FML! I had to pay $180!

BTW, there were 37 new hospitalizations reported today, the biggest increase in over 2 months and only a handful shy of the one-day record of 42.

I got tested for antibodies (I was negative) the day before they announced you could get tested for free if you gave blood... FML! I had to pay $180!

Ouch.

More herd immunity? Those states had huge numbers before?

NYC, the most herd-immune place in the US right now, has *maybe* 25% who have antibodies. Nowhere close to the 60% needed for "herd immunity." MN, PA, IL, GA is nowhere close to those numbers, most are probably still in the single digits.

NYC, the most herd-immune place in the US right now, has *maybe* 25% who have antibodies. Nowhere close to the 60% needed for "herd immunity." MN, PA, IL, GA is nowhere close to those numbers, most are probably still in the single digits.

How many people have truly had this though. That we will never know.

BTW, there were 37 new hospitalizations reported today, the biggest increase in over 2 months and only a handful shy of the one-day record of 42.

Time for another SHUT DOWN. People didn't listen the first time not sure they will with another shut down though either. And honestly I don't even think they would follow the law and shut down.

Time for another SHUT DOWN. People didn't listen the first time not sure they will with another shut down though either. And honestly I don't even think they would follow the law and shut down.

I don't think that is ever going to happen.

BTW, there were 37 new hospitalizations reported today, the biggest increase in over 2 months and only a handful shy of the one-day record of 42.

Thx for posting #'s

I don't think that is ever going to happen.I agree. And if they did for how long. 3 weeks, 10 weeks, 6 months? How long is really long enough?
I know Stillwater went ape#%$& when masks were required but I think it needs to be done, and enforced, statewide.

https://twitter.com/rogman99/status/1273747825357176834/photo/1 Dang Tulsa is really bad.

Seems like a good time to repost this link to state-by-state R value estimates.

https://rt.live


The scary part - they only have numbers as of June 12th in the model. Going to be sky high after this week is processed. We were below 1 for the longest time and now we're the worst in the country. notgreatbob.gif

It will most definitely keep going higher and higher until people start taking masks, etc. seriously. I’ve watched this since you posted it the first time. At one point a couple weeks ago there were, if I remember right, as few as 9 states above 1. Today there are 19. I think yesterday it was 20. So we’re not the only state having a surge. This thing needs to be taken seriously. BIG TIME!!

We are at a small BLM rally in the Deer Creek area, at least 90% are wearing masks.

We are at a small BLM rally in the Deer Creek area, at least 90% are wearing masks.
VERY happy to hear that. Actually most of the the BLM rallies I’ve seen coverage of the attendees were wearing masks. Good on them!

We are at a small BLM rally in the Deer Creek area, at least 90% are wearing masks.

so like 5 people?

Info on protests: fewer than 1% of Seattle protesters tested positive for COVID-19

https://komonews.com/news/local/fewer-than-1-of-seattle-protesters-test-positive-for-coronavirus

Wearing masks and being outside matters

BTW, there were 37 new hospitalizations reported today, the biggest increase in over 2 months and only a handful shy of the one-day record of 42.

Where does the new hospitalization/currently hospitalized numbers come from? The OK DHS executive summary for 6/18 shows a far lower increase.

Edit: Never mind, I see what I was doing wrong. I was comparing the currently hospitalized vs. the previous day's currently hospitalized, and did not realize that several pages later it gives a "total hospitalized" number that I should have been using instead.

https://www.reactiongifs.com/r/tbt.gif

Mayor just posted something about how he is just now seeing the data and he will have an update hopefully tomorrow but it might be a few days.

Since I doubt he will shut everything down again. (Lets be fair, he knows if he tried it wouldn't be enforceable without Stitt doing something)

I would assume that he would try to make mandatory. That’s what I would try to do at least.

More herd immunity? Those states had huge numbers before?

There is no herd immunity and won’t be for years.

BTW, there were 37 new hospitalizations reported today, the biggest increase in over 2 months and only a handful shy of the one-day record of 42.

I was raked over the coals for saying hospitalizations are going up. Got the “empty hospitals” trope.

I was raked over the coals for saying hospitalizations are going up. Got the “empty hospitals” trope.
Things are rapidly changing. Hospitals have been empty. That can change.

Mayor just posted something about how he is just now seeing the data and he will have an update hopefully tomorrow but it might be a few days.

Since I doubt he will shut everything down again. (Lets be fair, he knows if he tried it wouldn't be enforceable without Stitt doing something)

I would assume that he would try to make mandatory. That’s what I would try to do at least.

? Making mask Mandatory. I think that is going to happen really soon. Will people still follow it? I would hope so but at this point probably not.

I think it's time to make masks a requirement. The city needs to step up here and save lives.

I think it's time to make masks a requirement. The city needs to step up here and save lives.
This. Now.

This. Now.

Because tons of cities have made them mandatory.

I think it's time to make masks a requirement. The city needs to step up here and save lives.

And if you don't want to wear one don't go out. It's going to be hard for workers though but many have already been doing it. Fast food places could keep lobbies closed if employees dont want to wear them all day and rotate out the drive people Grocery can give people 15 minute break every few hours maybe.

Because tons of cities have made them mandatory.
...?

Mask should have been mandatory months ago. Hell once that whole fiasco with the Thunder happened mask should have been mandatory when you enter any public building, grocery store, mall, department store etc. and when you are near other people in public parks etc. Maybe its even possible for trump to have his rally and if everyone wears a mask it may actually be safe. But maybe if college football season is cancelled then that will piss people off enough to know that people need to wear mask.

How are we going to enforce mandatory masks?

Because tons of cities have made them mandatory.Yes. Many places have made masks in public mandatory.
https://www.latimes.com/science/newsletter/2020-06-18/mask-order-newsom-california-coronavirus-today
Or we could do like NYC and go into COMPLETE LOCKDOWN for weeks. Mask enforcement sounds like a much better option to me.

...?

I'm watching something now. Many states are now doing it. Yeah I didn't know about it but it's happening California and Florida being 2 states.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/06/18/orange-county-residents-will-be-required-to-wear-face-masks-under-new-executive-order/

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/list-arizona-cities-with-face-mask-requirements

Yes. Many places have made masks in public mandatory.
https://www.latimes.com/science/newsletter/2020-06-18/mask-order-newsom-california-coronavirus-today
Or we could do like NYC and go into COMPLETE LOCKDOWN for weeks. Mask enforcement sounds like a much better option to me.

Just done today. Until now, it was not very prevalent. I can see OKC doing it for a period, but people will not listen, and the city will have no real recourse.

Here is another city within the last few hours https://www.wxii12.com/article/raleigh-coronavirus-mandate-face-masks-public/32898638 GET YOUR MASK READY PEOPLE

Another one https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/06/18/mayor-jane-castor-announces-mandatory-mask-order-for-tampa/

It has much more to do with Oklahomans being too damn stupid to wear masks regularly because politics.

I don't know about Oklahoma City Wal-Marts, but when I was in the Perkins Rd. Wal-mart in Stillwater on Wednesday, the majority of people in there had masks on. Maybe it's in response to the sudden spike in cases in Stillwater. Due to cases among its staff, Mexico Joe's has had to return to closing its dining and having curb side service only.

I was raked over the coals for saying hospitalizations are going up. Got the “empty hospitals” trope.

It’s not just a trope if hospitals are still mostly empty...37 new hospitalizations is definitely an increase but it’s still a drop in the bucket compared to the beds available.

It’s been mandatory in LA where I’ve been the last couple weeks. No, you won’t (and shouldn’t) get arrested or ticketed for not wearing one, but it seems to help. But it’s not like everyone wears one when they can maintain social distance. I’d say 90% did not have them on the beach, but people were also socially distancing.

Businesses can really make a bigger difference by just requiring and enforcing them.

https://twitter.com/rogman99/status/1273747825357176834/photo/1 Dang Tulsa is really bad.

Tulsa had exactly two more new cases yesterday than OKC. It’s bad here, too, we just are lucky not to have a mayor so dumb to allow and welcome a superspreader event in our city.

How are we going to enforce mandatory masks?

Put it on the businesses and employers. Tell them to enforce it or face new shutdowns.

A friend told me she braved dining out for the first time, eating on the patio of Redrock Canyon in Norman. She felt relatively safe but looked inside and said there was no distancing in the dinig room whatsoever, and it was packed. I was disappointed to hear that because I had been under the impression that the Hal Smith RG was taking this seriously.

Put it on the businesses and employers. Tell them to enforce it or face new shutdowns.

A friend told me she braved dining out for the first time, eating on the patio of Redrock Canyon in Norman. She felt relatively safe but looked inside and said there was no distancing in the dinig room whatsoever, and it was packed. I was disappointed to hear that because I had been under the impression that the Hal Smith RG was taking this seriously.

Complete opposite of PubW in Norman. We have ordered to go and everyone is in masks inside and distanced. The curbside is great as they put in my backseat.

Put it on the businesses and employers. Tell them to enforce it or face new shutdowns.

Maybe. I'm a little nervous about what happens when the police get called out to enforce a mask or remove someone for not wearing a mask, considering everything else going on right now. Regardless, I still think it's a good idea. I've already written my Councilman in Edmond expressing my support for mandatory masks.

Maybe. I'm a little nervous about what happens when the police get called out to enforce a mask or remove someone for not wearing a mask, considering everything else going on right now. Regardless, I still think it's a good idea. I've already written my Councilman in Edmond expressing my support for mandatory masks.

Good for you!

Based on comments on any news site Facebook/Twitter there will never be a mask mandate either. People are wild, man.

Based on comments on any news site Facebook/Twitter there will never be a mask mandate either. People are wild, man.

I have been really disappointed with oklahomans as a whole during this. I think there is a group of people, typically educated and understands science/statistics, that is taking this seriously and favors masks and/or mandatory masks. The vast majority (probably 95% or greater) of people who comment on those news sites, as well as people that I work with, think this is a conspiracy, a bad cold, or fake news. I grew up in this state, and I'm well aware of the education issue as a whole here; however, this really brings to light how poorly educated people really are around here.

I have been really disappointed with oklahomans as a whole during this. I think there is a group of people, typically educated and understands science/statistics, that is taking this seriously and favors masks and/or mandatory masks. The vast majority (probably 95% or greater) of people who comment on those news sites, as well as people that I work with, think this is a conspiracy, a bad cold, or fake news. I grew up in this state, and I'm well aware of the education issue as a whole here; however, this really brings to light how poorly educated people really are around here.

Rule #1 about news articles...don’t read the comments lol.

Rule #1 about news articles...don’t read the comments lol.
This should be the second rule right after mandatory masking. 😂

Rule #1 about news articles...don’t read the comments lol.

But there is some comedy gold to be found in those comments and sometimes laughter is the best medicine.

Good News and Bad News.
Good News: Cases fell.
Bad News: Total new cases 392.

Only one new death.

26 New hospitalizations if my math is right.

I just don't totally understand why wearing a mask is even that big a deal to begin with. You go into a grocery store for maybe 15 minutes and put it on and then you can take it off when you get to your car. It's really not that big a deal. Some people will say that they're not worried about getting sick, but I don't want YOU to get ME sick. And I'm wearing my mask so I don't get YOU sick.

I think some of it is that, as a general rule, people don't like being told what to do, especially if it comes from the government.

Yes:

352 new cases
26 new hospitalizations
1 new death

That's 2,501 new cases in just the last 11 days.

And of course, until yesterday, 352 new cases would have still been 100 cases more than the previous record high.

Another bit of good news about today is that we added about 7k new tests, almost double our daily average, so the positivity rate will nudge back down a bit. Also our "currently hospitalized" number has *dropped* by 70 since Wednesday.