Hasn’t everyone been saying these results are from two weeks ago? If so wouldn’t the hospitalizations be occurring now?

I don't know who everyone is, but that's not what it shows in the data of cases by date of onset:
https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/70?District%20Selection=OCCHD

Trips to Homeland are getting more disheartening - as has been said, there are fewer masks and social distancing (did have one guy ask if he could get a bottle of water where we were standing instead of just pushing in and getting it, but he wasn't wearing a mask). Two people stood talking about a foot from each other, saying they were glad they saw each other, it had been months, etc., just yammering like everything's normal. Maybe they should just open everything back up and then let cases skyrocket again, then maybe the idiots will start believing in doing the right thing, but that would infect and kill innocent people doing the right thing too, so that's actually not a great idea...

Are other countries this stupid about wearing masks and social distancing (I haven't been keeping up with the rates that other countries' infections are going up or down)?

Are other countries this stupid about wearing masks and social distancing (I haven't been keeping up with the rates that other countries' infections are going up or down)?

Most other countries don't have "rugged individualism" as their core branding the way America does.

We really need to keep Long Term care and Nursing homes closed. 189 of 359 deaths (last weekly report but could have been more this week) are in long term care places.

People are making health decisions based on political affiliation. My observations are that non-Caucasians are 85-95% observing social distancing and mask wearing. The inverse is true for Caucasians. That seems weird. Ethnicity isn’t the factor, political party is.

http://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/social_distancing.pdfhttp://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/social_distancing.pdf

“We then present new survey evidence of significant gaps at the individual level between Republi- cans and Democrats in self-reported social distancing, beliefs about personal COVID risk, and beliefs about the future severity of the pandemic.” (http://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/social_distancing.pdf)

We really need to keep Long Term care and Nursing homes closed. 189 of 359 deaths (last weekly report but could have been more this week) are in long term care places.As for me I won’t be going to see mom until I feel comfortable. My two sisters are able to and have really isolated themselves so they should be safe. I’ve worked and shopped this whole time so I would be concerned that I might be asymptomatic and take it into the facility. I couldn’t live with that.

I don't know who everyone is, but that's not what it shows in the data of cases by date of onset:
https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/70?District%20Selection=OCCHD

I think I understand what people may be confused about. Don't mix up the infection on Memorial Day with the onset of symptoms 1-2 weeks later which prompts the positive test results and following hospitalizations in week 3-5. Here's a marked up image shamelessly stolen from the internet:

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I think I understand what people may be confused about. Don't mix up the infection on Memorial Day with the onset of symptoms 1-2 weeks later which prompts the positive test results and following hospitalizations in week 3-5. Here's a marked up image shamelessly stolen from the internet:

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I’m not confused. D-usa said earlier in this thread that he had knowledge that results were delayed in reporting up to 12 days.

People are making health decisions based on political affiliation. My observations are that non-Caucasians are 85-95% observing social distancing and mask wearing. The inverse is true for Caucasians. That seems weird. Ethnicity isn’t the factor, political party is.

http://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/social_distancing.pdfhttp://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/social_distancing.pdf

“We then present new survey evidence of significant gaps at the individual level between Republi- cans and Democrats in self-reported social distancing, beliefs about personal COVID risk, and beliefs about the future severity of the pandemic.” (http://web.stanford.edu/~gentzkow/research/social_distancing.pdf)

Yep, and it's sad, this country is in pathetic shape because of science illiteracy/denial and fact denial.

I think I understand what people may be confused about. Don't mix up the infection on Memorial Day with the onset of symptoms 1-2 weeks later which prompts the positive test results and following hospitalizations in week 3-5. Here's a marked up image shamelessly stolen from the internet:

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So what your saying is Hospitalization start around day 8? Fits perfect with the large crowds at protest. The protesters might no be sick but who isn't to say they gave it to someone else?

This is from today’s Epidemiology Report. “ It is critical for Oklahomans to seek out testing, even for individuals without symptoms.“. So if I have no symptoms how often should I seek out testing? If every Oklahoma resident went for testing weekly it would be a major disaster.

This is from today’s Epidemiology Report. “ It is critical for Oklahomans to seek out testing, even for individuals without symptoms.“. So if I have no symptoms how often should I seek out testing? If every Oklahoma resident went for testing weekly it would be a major disaster.

Right. Let's backlog the test and make it even longer to get the results. Hopefully one day we can get a test that we can get results in a day.

Why? A lot of the positive tests we see are from weeks ago. Most are recovered by now.

I am not sure if you are intentionally ignoring the information but the health department marks people "recovered" after 14 days without hospitalization. The two people I have spoken to who contracted the virus, both in their 40s, had if for five and six weeks, respectively.

The six week person was not hospitalized. The other was. The six week person still has intense lingering symptoms.

Also, if people tested positive two weeks ago the likelihood that they are "recovered" if they had serious symptoms is small.

I am not sure if you are intentionally ignoring the information but the health department marks people "recovered" after 14 days without hospitalization. The two people I have spoken to who contracted the virus, both in their 40s, had if for five and six weeks, respectively.

The six week person was not hospitalized. The other was. The six week person still has intense lingering symptoms.

Also, if people tested positive two weeks ago the likelihood that they are "recovered" if they had serious symptoms is small.

But, if the virus has a life of 14 days, they aren't contagious at that point, whether they are sick or not. You can still be sick, but not contagious. You are right. they may not be fully recovered.

Ok I see what you are saying but in the case of my colleague, she was still getting positive tests a month after initially testing positive. That means she was still contagious.

This 14-day rule is arbitrary BS created by government officials.

We really need to keep Long Term care and Nursing homes closed. 189 of 359 deaths (last weekly report but could have been more this week) are in long term care places.

Right. That is where the most vulnerable people are to death. Do a better job keeping the virus out of nursing homes and likely the deaths could go down, or flatten. Successful drug treatment can help keep deaths down.

225 new cases reported today.

I wonder how bad it will have to get before people take minor precautions such as masks and appropriate distance? We could have a thriving healthy economy if we did this.

Or maybe just showing everybody how tough & free we are will get us Through it.

I wonder what the hospitals look like and what new projections might show for them if this continues?

I wonder how bad it will have to get before people take minor precautions such as masks and appropriate distance? We could have a thriving healthy economy if we did this.

Or maybe just showing everybody how tough & free we are will get us Through it.

Went to meat market today I won't say which one but no mask. Zero zip no one. Probably about 10 people in there. Of course I had mine on I wore it a total of 8 minutes. How hard is it people. Also chick-fil-a yesterday. Person bringing me my food on no mask. People just won't wear one and not sure why. I could understand if it would be an all day thing and feel bad for the workers that have to wear them all day but you as a shopper only have to wear one 15 minutes maybe 30 at most. Go in to the store with a plan get what you need and get out. NOT THAT HARD.

Went to meat market today I won't say which one but no mask. Zero zip no one. Probably about 10 people in there. Of course I had mine on I wore it a total of 8 minutes. How hard is it people. Also chick-fil-a yesterday. Person bringing me my food on no mask. People just won't wear one and not sure why. I could understand if it would be an all day thing and feel bad for the workers that have to wear them all day but you as a shopper only have to wear one 15 minutes maybe 30 at most. Go in to the store with a plan get what you need and get out. NOT THAT HARD.

Its not that its hard to wear a mask, its that they have such fragile egos that they can’t be caught dead looking like they support a differing political party.

Though I do understand the trouble for workers. Wearing it for 9 hours would be a physical struggle.

If I patron a business, I sometimes call ahead and say, "Hi, I am planning on wearing a mask in your store to keep your employees safe. Will they wear one to keep me safe?" I always frame it that way to remind people you're wearing it for others, it's not about you.

Our testing went from getting results in 8 days, to getting results in 24 hours this past week. This is from a high volume lab that now has capacity to do testing in Oklahoma rather than sending their tests out. Hoping this will speed up reporting across the state for clinics utilizing that particular company.

My facility is also going to impact the testing numbers for the city for a while. We are doing some frequent massive testing, so we are going to drive the testing rate up and the numbers for results are going to be a bit messed up for a while for the county. If there is reporting by zip code it would help clear things up.

Don't blame protests for the reason for increased cases. Yeah, it probably is a factor, but the majority of the population locally isn't taking precautions to distance.

Our testing went from getting results in 8 days, to getting results in 24 hours this past week. This is from a high volume lab that now has capacity to do testing in Oklahoma rather than sending their tests out. Hoping this will speed up reporting across the state for clinics utilizing that particular company.

My facility is also going to impact the testing numbers for the city for a while. We are doing some frequent massive testing, so we are going to drive the testing rate up and the numbers for results are going to be a bit messed up for a while for the county. If there is reporting by zip code it would help clear things up.

So we are now getting results back in 24 hours? How many test can we process now in a day?

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Who here is familiar with the differences between a local maximum vs a global maximum in trend analysyis. Yep, we claim victory of flattening the curve, but that’s looking like a local maximum and we haven’t seen the worst of it.

Also found this chart interesting. It’s showing the percentage positive tests by day. This normalizes out the bias you get when you start increasing test numbers. It’s been steadily going down. However, it flattened out mid May and has started going back up. It’s subtle, but if you zoom in, you can see it (blue curve)

So we are now getting results back in 24 hours? How many test can we process now in a day?

It depends on the lab. This is with us using DLO, and We are no longer sending to the state so I don’t know what the turnaround is for public testing sites. We are collecting 200-300 samples daily right now and are having a good turnaround right now. Our population is not representative of what is happening in OKC though, even though large swings in our testing impacts the numbers for OKC.

I know the state was called out last week for not counting cases per guidelines, because we are not counting provable cases or non-lab confirmed cases (aka, rapid tests).

I wonder how bad it will have to get before people take minor precautions such as masks and appropriate distance? We could have a thriving healthy economy if we did this.

Or maybe just showing everybody how tough & free we are will get us Through it.

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.


Minor sidebar: can we get rid of the phrase "Avoid like the plague" since we're not avoiding it?

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.


I wonder what the hospitals look like and what new projections might show for them if this continues?

I have a friend at OU medical who sounded the alarm Monday about hospitalization. I really wish the mayor would call a press conference with other officials to warn residents that if they don’t start wearing masks and distancing now we are facing the prospect of another shelter in place order. We know Stitt won’t do anything (he can’t be bothered to wear a mask nor can his wife), so it is up to city and county officials to provide leadership in a vacuum. I am also disgusted by the inaction of way too many locally owned (and national) businesses to exert leadership and enforce safety protocols that are at worst a minor inconvenience.

Another shutdown. My wife has colleagues on FB saying: “now that Covid is behind us....” I $hit you not. People have moved on. What we are seeing is human nature accompanied by completely inconsistent government messaging. People think wearing a mask means you are against Republicans. It’s literally that dumb.

I really wish people would quit saying this. Until hospitals start saying they are overcrowded, things will stay open, for the most part.

Edit: I have friends at multiple hospitals saying they are not at a high risk of overcrowding. I would be curious to know the ages of those testing positive now. I would bet most are younger.

And then I looked and the mayor had already posted a message to social media. Here is a graph for the OKC METRO he released. This is very concerning, but I am glad he is paying attention and not hosting a giant political rally in an enclosed building next week, as Mayor Bynum is welcoming to his city.

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I really wish people would quit saying this. Until hospitals start saying they are overcrowded, things will stay open, for the most part.

Edit: I have friends at multiple hospitals saying they are not at a high risk of overcrowding. I would be curious to know the ages of those testing positive now. I would bet most are younger.I have an employee that has a second job at a hospital. She says they are very slow with almost no COVID patients and no one wanting to do anything unless life threatening as far as any surgeries etc. The weekly epidemiology reports for the past month show hospitalizations dropping from 190 to around 150. Deaths are lower also. I’m becoming more and more convinced that new case numbers might not be all that important. However, I still don’t go anywhere without a mask and as I read on Facebook “I wash and sanitize my hands so much I clean the toilet when I pee”.

Definitely starting to get a nice Protester spike in the Charts -- both nationally and locally.

I always figured that protesting during a pandemic was a bad idea. And the wide majority of Protesters were wearing masks.

Imagine That.

I always figured that protesting during a pandemic was a bad idea. And the wide majority of Protesters were wearing masks.

Imagine That.
Chuck,
That's great that a wide majority wore masks, the problem is, If there are fifty people with masks and one without and the one without has the virus, he potentially infects everyone he comes close to. Assuming of course that he coughs, sneezes et al. Yesterday I went to an OnCue with my mask to protect others and when I was next in line to check out some jerk walked past the striped line and we were "cheek to cheek" as he couldn't wait. I should have said something but riding on a mobility scooter, it wouldn't have been smart. By the way, he didn't wear a mask, so he put my health in danger. But, still pleased that most of the protesters wore masks, it's kind of like chicken soup, it can't hurt.
C. T.

I have an employee that has a second job at a hospital. She says they are very slow with almost no COVID patients and no one wanting to do anything unless life threatening as far as any surgeries etc. The weekly epidemiology reports for the past month show hospitalizations dropping from 190 to around 150. Deaths are lower also. I’m becoming more and more convinced that new case numbers might not be all that important. However, I still don’t go anywhere without a mask and as I read on Facebook “I wash and sanitize my hands so much I clean the toilet when I pee”.
I might be totally off base with this opinion but I really do think that spike in cases it's from the protester and it's that 18-35 group that is really getting it
That's when the spike and the numbers is coming from however those are also the age group that don't get really sick and won't need hospitalization so why the numbers may be going up hospitalizations may not go up I just hope they don't go out and give it to the order population

158 new cases today.

I'm wondering how high next weeks numbers are going to be. As an older person, time to go back to staying at home. When needing something in town, time to do the curb side pickup. Most of what I need is not groceries, that is easy to stock up on for a few weeks. Its just the stuff to fix what breaks around my place, which means trips to Lowe's, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, mower parts places etc. I was able to do parking lot pick up at my local John Deer dealer the other day. Small businesses even if they don't advertise curbside, will most of the time do curb side pick up.

https://www.koco.com/article/two-hairstylists-who-had-covid-19-saw-140-clients-officials-are-studying-how-no-one-got-infected/32836917?fbclid=IwAR1Z9GrBdgAuY50Zrpr-P7O1KKlDsz6gporgjuyHNDN9z9wG9Xr7G12FW5A# IF EVERYONE AND i MEAN EVERYONE wore a mask for a good 3 weeks we could get the numbers really low.

https://www.koco.com/article/two-hairstylists-who-had-covid-19-saw-140-clients-officials-are-studying-how-no-one-got-infected/32836917?fbclid=IwAR1Z9GrBdgAuY50Zrpr-P7O1KKlDsz6gporgjuyHNDN9z9wG9Xr7G12FW5A# IF EVERYONE AND i MEAN EVERYONE wore a mask for a good 3 weeks we could get the numbers really low.
I agree that if everyone wore masks everywhere in public this thing would go away much faster. But putting a time estimate on how long has proven time and time again to not be workable. It could be for months. The places that truly locked down had to do so for weeks. I for one am going to keep wearing a mask anytime I go into anywhere for the foreseeable future. I don’t want to get this virus.

Definitely starting to get a nice Protester spike in the Charts -- both nationally and locally.

I always figured that protesting during a pandemic was a bad idea. And the wide majority of Protesters were wearing masks.

Imagine That.

There is no evidence to back up this claim, and in Tulsa, the county health department specifically said Tulsa’s spike was not related to the protests there.

I agree that if everyone wore masks everywhere in public this thing would go away much faster. But putting a time estimate on how long has proven time and time again to not be workable. It could be for months. The places that truly locked down had to do so for weeks. I for one am going to keep wearing a mask anytime I go into anywhere for the foreseeable future. I don’t want to get this virus.

Remember. The mask is to protect others from getting it from you if you are pre-symptomatic.

I think mask wearing is long gone now. Just anecdotally I have seen far far fewer people wear masks now.

Remember. The mask is to protect others from getting it from you if you are pre-symptomatic.

I think mask wearing is long gone now. Just anecdotally I have seen far far fewer people wear masks now.
I have a stash of N95 masks so they should be giving me some protection. I also stay as far away from everyone as possible and go shopping first thing in the morning so not many or are out yet.

In addition, new research from scientists at Cambridge and Greenwich Universities suggests "population-wide use of facemasks could effectively control the coronavirus pandemic by substantially reducing the chances that an infected wearer will pass along his viruses to another person," writes Reason's Ron Bailey.

Co-leader of the study Richard Stutt, of Cambridge, said "our analyses support the immediate and universal adoption of face masks by the public." Widescale mask adoption could let places reopen even in the absence of a COVID-19 vaccine, he said.

Stutt's study, published in Proceedings of the Royal Society A, modeled a series of different conditions to determine which set of behaviors would lower COVID-19's R number below 1. (The R number indicates the average number of people a sick person will themselves infect. If each sick person infects fewer than one other person, the virus begins to die off.) Stutt's model suggests that when 50 percent or more of a population adopts face mask-wearing in public, R number will fall below 1.0.
https://reason.com/2020/06/11/the-government-was-wrong-about-masks/

There is no evidence to back up this claim, and in Tulsa, the county health department specifically said Tulsa’s spike was not related to the protests there.

Sure there is. It just doesn't fit your narrative.

Sure there is. It just doesn't fit your narrative.

You nailed it. No you like channels like CNN MSNBC or pretty much all of them are going to say the spike is do to protest. Heck no it's do to opening back up even though most thing were open by mid May. I will say that part of it is people just don't care any more but even now I'm see tons of people on the street marching no mask. SMH

I support the protests because they are fighting another and long-standing public health risk (let's avoid arguing about that here and stick to COVID-19), but there is no question they'll lead to additional spread of COVID-19. It helps that protests were outdoors and many protestors made efforts at mask wearing and physical distancing... but there also was a lot of close crowds and people without/removing masks. One source I follow, if I remember right, estimated something like a 3-6% increase in cases due to protests. People who don't wear masks indoors or when close outdoors are similarly responsible for spread. And, really, an indoor rally is a super spreading event waiting to happen.

I support the protests because they are fighting another and long-standing public health risk (let's avoid arguing about that here and stick to COVID-19), but there is no question they'll lead to additional spread of COVID-19. It helps that protests were outdoors and many protestors made efforts at mask wearing and physical distancing... but there also was a lot of close crowds and people without/removing masks. One source I follow, if I remember right, estimated something like a 3-6% increase in cases due to protests. People who don't wear masks indoors or when close outdoors are similarly responsible for spread. And, really, an indoor rally is a super spreading event waiting to happen.

Did you see some of the large gatherings today that were happening. I guess we are quickly on our way to herd immunity at this rate.

Did you see some of the large gatherings today that were happening. I guess we are quickly on our way to herd immunity at this rate.

Huh? There have been protests everyday. We are not at all anywhere near—or on our way—to herd immunity. What are you talking about?

I believe sarcasm was at play. It'd be hard to believe that it would be purely the protests that led to the spike(s).

186 new cases reported today; by far the biggest jump in positives for any week since this started.

6/15: 186
6/14: 158
6/13: 225
6/12: 222
6/11: 146
6/10: 117
6/9: 158

I'm sure the protests did not help but I think a lot more of it has to do with the reopening of businesses and people going indoors where droplets have shown they can hang out in the air for hours, and not just from coughing/sneezing but from talking, laughing, and breathing.

I understand people are itching to get things back on track and find some sense of normalcy again, but the problem is, a lot of people don't even want to do the bare minimum when it comes to taking the appropriate precautions.

Yes, it really seems like a) duration of exposure, b) being indoors, and c) activities that promote aerosol spreading (talking, singing, screaming) are emerging as the major risk factors for big spreading events. While the protests likely resulted in some spreading, I am unfamiliar with any studies that have found outdoor exposure to be a main threat.

The lack of masks is infuriating to me and seems almost entirely politically driven. Everyone back in NJ still wears a mask. They wouldn't even consider going out without one. And while it sounds silly, I've anecdotally noticed a direct relation between how "liberal" I perceive a store to be (e.g. Sprouts & Target vs. Walmart) and mask usage. And I echo the observation about whites vs. non-whites wrt mask usage as well.

I'm not trying to be political in this thread, but the Trump rally this weekend could be very bad. Tens of thousands of people, packed inside for hours, screaming and cheering. Literal recipe for disastrous spread. And it's easy to say "let them do it, it's on them", but these morons then pour into our restaurants, grocery stores, parks, etc. It is public health and it affects everyone. Ugh.

Yes, it really seems like a) duration of exposure, b) being indoors, and c) activities that promote aerosol spreading (talking, singing, screaming) are emerging as the major risk factors for big spreading events. While the protests likely resulted in some spreading, I am unfamiliar with any studies that have found outdoor exposure to be a main threat.

The lack of masks is infuriating to me and seems almost entirely politically driven. Everyone back in NJ still wears a mask. They wouldn't even consider going out without one. And while it sounds silly, I've anecdotally noticed a direct relation between how "liberal" I perceive a store to be (e.g. Sprouts & Target vs. Walmart) and mask usage. And I echo the observation about whites vs. non-whites wrt mask usage as well.

I'm not trying to be political in this thread, but the Trump rally this weekend could be very bad. Tens of thousands of people, packed inside for hours, screaming and cheering. Literal recipe for disastrous spread. And it's easy to say "let them do it, it's on them", but these morons then pour into our restaurants, grocery stores, parks, etc. It is public health and it affects everyone. Ugh.

I think with these numbers coming in, cities (and even the state) could absolutely make the argument for bringing back the restriction on large gatherings/events. I'm sort of hoping they'll end up announcing something this week and plans will end up changing.

If anything the protests definitely added a variable for measurements.

If opening up restaurants/bars/gyms/ect was the true culprit in the increase, it would be hard to say since the protests were also an obvious way the virus could have spread. Hopefully they are doing contact tracing to determine where the cause is coming from.

I think most of this is from Protest. The time line fits perfectly. The numbers are going up in people in that age group 18-35 that were out protesting. The hospitalizations are not increasing cause this age group doesn't get as sick. At least so far. We saw no increase in the numbers after things opened up. Most things have been open is May 1st. May 15th casino and other places open no increase 2 weeks after those places open. Memorial day might of cause some of this uptick but really the Protest time line fits perfectly. Many of us were saying when we opened things up May 1st that by the 15th we would start to see increase in numbers. We really never did. Protest happen a little over 15 days ago so makes sense that the increase is from protest.

Also there has been more testing and I think so many people have this that are healthy and young have no clue they have it. Look at the story today about the Dallas Cowboy players. So that is playing into this some also I think.

Goes back to what I have been saying all along. Protect the older population. This under 40 age group isn't being hit that hard in terms of deaths and hospitalizations. However i think they are the group with the most confirmed cases. So they need to stop going to see grandma and grandpa or their older parents.

I think most of this is from Protest. The time line fits perfectly. The numbers are going up in people in that age group 18-35 that were out protesting. The hospitalizations are not increasing cause this age group doesn't get as sick. At least so far. We saw no increase in the numbers after things opened up. Most things have been open is May 1st. May 15th casino and other places open no increase 2 weeks after those places open. Memorial day might of cause some of this uptick but really the Protest time line fits perfectly. Many of us were saying when we opened things up May 1st that by the 15th we would start to see increase in numbers. We really never did. Protest happen a little over 15 days ago so makes sense that the increase is from protest.

Also there has been more testing and I think so many people have this that are healthy and young have no clue they have it. Look at the story today about the Dallas Cowboy players. So that is playing into this some also I think.

Goes back to what I have been saying all along. Protect the older population. This under 40 age group isn't being hit that hard in terms of deaths and hospitalizations. However i think they are the group with the most confirmed cases. So they need to stop going to see grandma and grandpa or their older parents.

1. The only expert body to comment on the source of this new spreading I have seen is the Tulsa County Health Department, and they said specifically that this was not the result of the protests. They specifically mentioned some large indoor gatherings as the source there.

2. I am totally not an expert on the incubation of this, but if we are just sitting around making armchair assumptions, the timing of the Memorial Day holiday would also fit the timeline well. If anything, it would fit better because if it takes up to two weeks to incubate, and then a few days to show symptoms, it would be a bit earlier to see an uptick from the protests.

3. I fully expect the protests to be a factor as well.

4. We can see for ourselves how most of our fellow citizens believe this is "over," and have resumed pre-pandemic levels of activity, and refuse to wear masks for reasons I will never understand. Many people on this board have not, of course, but I don't believe we in any way represent the Vox Populi of this state.

5. The mayor of OKC, the chief epidemiologist at OU Med, and other expert officials have said the increase is absolutely not the result of increased testing. We are currently testing fewer people per day than we were in mid May. So, that is something we know with total certainty and needs to be killed off as an argument or hope.

6. The aforementioned OU Med official said today the number of cases we are experiencing now do not justify opening of any phases.

Had to return something to Home Depot that i ordered online. I would say of the 50 or so people in there 3 maybe 4 had on mask. No employees wearing mask. Some social distancing but still a bunch closed together at self checkout. Why are people not getting it?

I'm not trying to be political in this thread, but the Trump rally this weekend could be very bad. Tens of thousands of people, packed inside for hours, screaming and cheering. Literal recipe for disastrous spread. And it's easy to say "let them do it, it's on them", but these morons then pour into our restaurants, grocery stores, parks, etc. It is public health and it affects everyone. Ugh.

This single rally could do more damage then all the protests in the state because of it being held indoors. If they were holding this thing outdoors, encouraging masks, and doing some kind of social distancing then it would lower the risk so much.

This single rally could do more damage then all the protests in the state because of it being held indoors. If they were holding this thing outdoors, encouraging masks, and doing some kind of social distancing then it would lower the risk so much.
Yes. I can’t believe they’re really holding these rallies. It amazes me how many traditional things just “can’t” be done without because “we’ve always done it this way”. Hello world. Nothing like this virus has ever been seen before. Traditions should not matter.