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jdizzle 06-09-2020, 12:02 PM They'll be some sort of excuse like it came from one town or Correctional Facility or something JS. Covid is here to stay.
These are from Memorial Day. These are mostly not from this weekend. And again, as long as hospitals are adequately able to handle things, why shut things down again?
OkiePoke 06-09-2020, 12:11 PM A friend took a 24-48 hour test on 6/2. They got the results back today 6/9. They said they were informing the positives first. But that isn't to say the Health Department didn't know the results before today.
PoliSciGuy 06-09-2020, 12:38 PM Daily increases reported today (all big numbers):
Positives: 158
Hospitalized: 22
Deaths: 5
Worth noting that this is the result of *almost 13,000* tests. So the numbers are big, but the positivity rate is below 2%, which is still pretty solid. This latest dump shows that our biggest issue isn't a resurgent outbreak but rather how long it takes us to process all these tests.
soonerguru 06-09-2020, 12:49 PM These are from Memorial Day. These are mostly not from this weekend. And again, as long as hospitals are adequately able to handle things, why shut things down again?
Who is advocating shutting things down again? It would be helpful to avoid making hyperbolic generalizations like that.
I think most people, myself included, are pleasantly surprised that we have not had an outbreak, particularly how carelessly so many people are about observing the most basic of social distancing.
Regarding the WHO, that is the kind of miscommunication that will linger, even after they attempted to clean it up. Certain news outlets and people with specific agendas will keep that statement alive and churning through the psyches of Americans, telling them: Don't worry. You'll be good. This is the kind of self-validation people are seeking because it tells them they can just go about life pretending the danger is gone, and they shouldn't even have to bother to wear a face covering.
mkjeeves 06-09-2020, 01:12 PM Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.
I may have to cut my own from here on out.
catch22 06-09-2020, 01:23 PM Up here in CO (at least wear I live in El Paso county) it's required for anyone in any service role (customer-facing) to wear one. Checkout clerk, barber, waiter, hostess, etc. Businesses can be fined for non-compliance of employees. "Required" but not enforced for patrons.
Interesting to see the differences from state to state. At this point, it seems like use will continue to decline, so at some point (whether you like it or not) you will just have to accept that people aren't going to wear one any longer.
jerrywall 06-09-2020, 01:36 PM Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.
I may have to cut my own from here on out.
If you're willing to drive to Edmond near UCO, I might recommend who I use (she does straight razor head shaves and beard trimming, in addition to hair cuts.)
Amber Gardner - https://www.styleseat.com/m/v/cutitoutbarbershop
It's a single chair in an enclosed room. I park, go in, and directly to her "booth", which again is a room with a sliding door, and I never see or have to get around anyone but her. She's not as cheap as going to one of the chain places, but she is very good (at least with Men's cuts). I've referred a few friends and they've all been happy. She's fairly responsive and receptive to any concerns if you call her in advance.
dankrutka 06-09-2020, 01:45 PM Wait, so we shouldn't believe the WHO anymore? I thought we should always trust them, and the CDC, and they were nothing but honest throughout this whole pandemic?
Quite the strawman argument here. Both are good and important sources, but they’ve been (a) really bad at messaging (this a lot of people misinterpreting their statements due to science illiteracy) and (b) have been slow to update statements. One of the first lessons of media literacy is that source credibility is important, but so is corroborating evidence. The WHO has already released a clarification about the asymptomatic claim. The error was both their fault (poor messaging) and that of news orgs and citizens (science illiteracy).
catcherinthewry 06-09-2020, 01:54 PM Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.
I may have to cut my own from here on out.
I went to my barber last week for the first time in 3 months. Neither she, nor any of her customers were wearing masks. I walked out. Went to SportsClips and every stylist and most customers were wearing masks. Not my favorite place, but at least they care about their customers.
Bill Robertson 06-09-2020, 02:02 PM Worth noting that this is the result of *almost 13,000* tests. So the numbers are big, but the positivity rate is below 2%, which is still pretty solid. This latest dump shows that our biggest issue isn't a resurgent outbreak but rather how long it takes us to process all these tests.
Way too slow for whatever reasons. Also, the 5 deaths occurred between April 5 and June 7. April? I wonder if other states are similar. I bet they are.
Timshel 06-09-2020, 02:03 PM Shout out to Coven Salon in this regard. They have taken it very seriously since the beginning and continue to do so.
kukblue1 06-09-2020, 02:06 PM Way too slow for whatever reasons. Also, the 5 deaths occurred between April 5 and June 7. April? I wonder if other states are similar. I bet they are.
I still think they can only process so many test in a day. You could do 100,000 test in a day but if the machines that are analyzing the test can only do 10,000 in a day then shouldn't it be 10,000 test that day and not 100,000. I'm not sure it's currently working that way? I could be wrong.
mkjeeves 06-09-2020, 02:38 PM Thanks for the barber suggestions. I'll check those out.
LocoAko 06-09-2020, 02:41 PM Weldon Jack was taking it very seriously as well. Masks, gloves, etc. Here is their statement on their procedures: https://mailchi.mp/b4db8b5cd22b/holiday-haircuts-10-off-online-store-4213649?fbclid=IwAR3Vjg8VOuZJ8Uu0ypiedNeP_PM73qRi3 tInCd1BwmaNQOHg5RSoLQ_gyA0
Bill Robertson 06-09-2020, 05:28 PM I still think they can only process so many test in a day. You could do 100,000 test in a day but if the machines that are analyzing the test can only do 10,000 in a day then shouldn't it be 10,000 test that day and not 100,000. I'm not sure it's currently working that way? I could be wrong.
I was really referring to deaths that don’t get reported for a month or two. I’ve just about stopped paying attention to new cases because they are so dependent on labs properly reporting and the total number of tests reported on a given day that they just aren’t as important as hospitalizations and deaths.
dankrutka 06-10-2020, 01:00 AM A new study found that shutdown orders prevented 60 million infections in the U.S. and about 285 million in China, according to The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/shutdowns-prevented-60-million-coronavirus-infections-us-study-finds/?campaign_id=154&emc=edit_cb_20200608&instance_id=19194&nl=coronavirus-briefing®i_id=79175https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/08/shutdowns-prevented-60-million-coronavirus-infections-us-study-finds/850).
OkiePoke 06-10-2020, 08:21 AM Going for my first haircut and need a recommendation for shops requiring everyone to wear a mask if anyone knows of one. Mine isn't doing either, barbers or customers, unless you request your barber to wear one then they alone will. There were 4 people in the shop when I stopped in to check. Not that big of a place and nobody wearing a mask.
I may have to cut my own from here on out.
https://www.capitalcityokc.com/
An article about the Springfield hair salon with two positive hairdressers, and there was no community spread, a good argument for masks, on servers and customers,
https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article243395651.html
kukblue1 06-10-2020, 11:15 AM Mike Morgan
@MikeMorganKFOR
Health Alert from the front lines everybody! Marla says that the ER area at the hospital is getting noticeably busier. Fellow Okies, you be careful out there.
Bunty 06-10-2020, 12:42 PM Mike Morgan
@MikeMorganKFOR
Health Alert from the front lines everybody! Marla says that the ER area at the hospital is getting noticeably busier. Fellow Okies, you be careful out there.
If it means too many older Okies, say over age 50 and most definitely over 65 are showing up, then that fact needs well publicized, because in Oklahoma, over 80% of the virus deaths have happened to those over age 65. Far fewer people under age 50 die.
kukblue1 06-10-2020, 01:43 PM If it means too many older Okies, say over age 50 and most definitely over 65 are showing up, then that fact needs well publicized, because in Oklahoma, over 80% of the virus deaths have happened to those over age 65. Far fewer people under age 50 die.
We have had a few more deaths over the last couple days under 50 I think we are up to 12 now but 12 in what 3 months now. I agree if we start seeing an increase in the older population then it could be bad again real quick. Not that it isn't already bad.
dankrutka 06-10-2020, 07:29 PM An article about the Springfield hair salon with two positive hairdressers, and there was no community spread, a good argument for masks, on servers and customers,
https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article243395651.html
Yup, this just adds to the mounting evidence that masks make a big difference. Wear them to protect others and ask them to wear them to protect you.
OKC Talker 06-10-2020, 10:42 PM This may be useful information (depending on your views on science):
https://nondoc.com/2020/06/10/the-numbers-you-need-how-to-make-sense-of-covid-19-data
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"...test positivity can be a bit misleading. The very high test positivity in March looks scary, but that is expected, since tests were scarce and priority was rightly given to those showing symptoms. But the shape of this line (really high to really low) does not necessarily mean that the virus has slowed down. As more tests became available, more healthy people took the test and drove the rate down, even as the number of positives coming back hovered in the same range.
What you want to watch is the slope of the positivity line—is it pointing up or down? Now that we’ve achieved a fairly steady high rate of testing, we probably won’t reach those high early positive percentages again. What we need to know instead is whether the test positivity rate is going up and down. If that line starts rising, it will be one of the first indicators of the feared “second wave” of infection that could follow as we reopen parts of our society."
Bill Robertson 06-11-2020, 09:51 AM This may be useful information (depending on your views on science):
https://nondoc.com/2020/06/10/the-numbers-you-need-how-to-make-sense-of-covid-19-data
16149
"...test positivity can be a bit misleading. The very high test positivity in March looks scary, but that is expected, since tests were scarce and priority was rightly given to those showing symptoms. But the shape of this line (really high to really low) does not necessarily mean that the virus has slowed down. As more tests became available, more healthy people took the test and drove the rate down, even as the number of positives coming back hovered in the same range.
What you want to watch is the slope of the positivity line—is it pointing up or down? Now that we’ve achieved a fairly steady high rate of testing, we probably won’t reach those high early positive percentages again. What we need to know instead is whether the test positivity rate is going up and down. If that line starts rising, it will be one of the first indicators of the feared “second wave” of infection that could follow as we reopen parts of our society."
Since testing has expanded I wonder how many people just decide to go take the swab to the back of your sinuses test just for the heck of it. And it’s been said on here from a source that has a contact that says that lab confirmed tests are all that get counted. If most people that are getting tested just to see what happens are getting the rapid test that isn’t being counted then that graph looks much better.
OKC Talker 06-11-2020, 10:23 AM The important part to me was that if test availability and the number of new tests have leveled off, it's much harder to explain away the increase of recent cases in OKC.
https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/70?District%20Selection=OCCHD&County%20Selection=
TheTravellers 06-11-2020, 10:26 AM The important part to me was that if test availability and the number of new tests have leveled off, it's much harder to explain away the increase of recent cases in OKC.
https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/70?District%20Selection=OCCHD&County%20Selection=
Increase due to Memorial Day parties, re-opening, and fairly widespread ignoring of mask-wearing?
Bill Robertson 06-11-2020, 10:36 AM Increase due to Memorial Day parties, re-opening, and fairly widespread ignoring of mask-wearing?With the virus still out there of course reopening and lack of people practicing safety measures is going to raise the number of cases.
PoliSciGuy 06-11-2020, 11:14 AM 146 new cases
2 new deaths
14 new hospitalizations
Things are definitely picking up. This wasn't even a huge testing day
kukblue1 06-11-2020, 11:20 AM 146 new cases
2 new deaths
98(!) new hospitalizations
Things are definitely picking up. This wasn't even a huge testing day
Covid hasn't gone away at all the problem is people have thought it has gone away. When you see the same people every day at your local fast food place or Supermarket you start to think yourself will they haven't gotten sick so why would I. You see the people on News 9 no longer social distancing. Many people think oh I haven't gotten it by now I'm probably not going to get it and that's the wrong way to think. We have let our guard down too much
Ohwiseone 06-11-2020, 11:23 AM The numbers going up aren't good.
But, There are always going to be positives, So I guess we have to wait to see what the new average is. I am hopeful the numbers will go down some next week.
I dunno, I have gotten to the point that I guess I will just have to wait for Mayor Holt or someone to update. I know the virus still exists and it is going too.
Martin 06-11-2020, 11:28 AM 98(!) new hospitalizations
i'm not seeing that on the site. the cumulative hospitalization graph shows 1092 today and 1075 yesterday. yesterday's executive report indicates 94 current hospitalizations, so an increase of 98 day-over-day would be pretty significant. the main page indicates 97 recoveries day-over-day next to the other figures you reported... did you perhaps get the two confused?
jdizzle 06-11-2020, 11:38 AM I doubt that 98 is accurate. We would have heard about this in the past 2 weeks, you know, when these tests were taken. Hospitals are not close to being overrun, so that number should not scare anyone.
Edit: 14 new hospitalizations, per NewsOK article. PoliSciGuy, you may want to update your post before you scare people who won't want to go double-check the info.
PoliSciGuy 06-11-2020, 01:15 PM i'm not seeing that on the site. the cumulative hospitalization graph shows 1092 today and 1075 yesterday. yesterday's executive report indicates 94 current hospitalizations, so an increase of 98 day-over-day would be pretty significant. the main page indicates 97 recoveries day-over-day next to the other figures you reported... did you perhaps get the two confused?
Yep, sure did, it's 14, not 98, new hospitalizations. My bad, I'll edit the original post
kukblue1 06-12-2020, 11:16 AM Well unless the number is wrong we had over 200 new cases today I would say I told you so but nobody wanted to hear it a couple weeks ago when I even suggested we would hit 200. I don't understand why people think this is gone away
jdizzle 06-12-2020, 11:20 AM Well unless the number is wrong we had over 200 new cases today I would say I told you so but nobody wanted to hear it a couple weeks ago when I even suggested we would hit 200. I don't understand why people think this is gone away
And most are already recovered by now. Again, the state is so behind, the numbers will never be accurate. So worrying about them is dumb at this point.
kukblue1 06-12-2020, 11:21 AM And most are already recovered by now. Again, the state is so behind, the numbers will never be accurate. So worrying about them is dumb at this point.
But how many more people did they infect. If there's more people that have it there's more people that are going to get infected?
222 new positives today, by far the most in any one day since this started.
Last four days:
6/12 +222
6/11 +146
6/10 +117
6/9 +158
PoliSciGuy 06-12-2020, 11:29 AM Yeah, things are definitely trending the wrong direction, and outside of that one day earlier this week where we dumped 12,000 tests, we aren't seeing any massive expansions in the number of tests done so our positivity rate is going to trickle up. Without a change in behavior, there's no reason to believe these numbers will just resolve themselves.
mkjeeves 06-12-2020, 11:29 AM Not good. I wish people would heed the warnings and adopt the best practices but it isn't going to happen.
Ohwiseone 06-12-2020, 11:31 AM Yeah, Not good.
I know they do large batches of negatives at once, And I think the next batch is early next week. So hopefully that is another spike in tests.
But yeah, not good at all, and it's bound to get worse with Stitt allowing Nursing Home Visitations.
All we can hope for is that next week the positives go down, but I doubt that.
Bill Robertson 06-12-2020, 11:40 AM Not good. I wish people would heed the warnings and adopt the best practices but it isn't going to happen.No they won’t. Unfortunately. I had to stop by Home Depot about 8 this morning on the way to work. I was the only person, employee or customer, wearing a mask.
OKC Guy 06-12-2020, 12:02 PM americans are increasingly comfortable going out again according to abc / ipsos polling
% willing to do the following
eat at a restaurant
may 41%
june 59%
stay in a hotel
may 45%
june 57%
attend church
may 42%
june 57%
go to the mall
may 38%
june 53%
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2020-06/topline-abc-coronavirus-wave-12.pdf
soonerguru 06-12-2020, 12:19 PM Tulsa is having a major spike right now. Unfortunately I have no insight into OKC trends.
David 06-12-2020, 12:22 PM Tulsa is having a major spike right now. Unfortunately I have no insight into OKC trends.
Seems like a bad time to be holding large political rallies in Tulsa.
jdizzle 06-12-2020, 12:26 PM americans are increasingly comfortable going out again according to abc / ipsos polling
% willing to do the following
eat at a restaurant
may 41%
june 59%
stay in a hotel
may 45%
june 57%
attend church
may 42%
june 57%
go to the mall
may 38%
june 53%
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2020-06/topline-abc-coronavirus-wave-12.pdf
Yep. The mortality of this virus is not nearly as high as originally thought. So people are living now.
soonerguru 06-12-2020, 12:26 PM The non-mask wearers are destroying the economy, because their ignorant presence keeps a large segment of the population from engaging with businesses and entertainment venues. I want an ice cream cone, but it is not worth the risk of contracting a deadly virus. Businesses like the Home Depot example above will not get a dime of my money.
soonerguru 06-12-2020, 12:29 PM Seems like a bad time to be holding large political rallies in Tulsa.
You said it. And no one at the speciously timed event will be DONning a mask.
kukblue1 06-12-2020, 12:44 PM The non-mask wearers are destroying the economy, because their ignorant presence keeps a large segment of the population from engaging with businesses and entertainment venues. I want an ice cream cone, but it is not worth the risk of contracting a deadly virus. Businesses like the Home Depot example above will not get a dime of my money.
The Braum's my friends work at they've been telling me for weeks there's been no social distancing whatsoever in the dining room. People standing in line waiting to order and pick up their food. Braum's hasn't blocked off any tables like they should have been. At what point are we going to have to start closing things again.
kukblue1 06-12-2020, 12:46 PM Tulsa is having a major spike right now. Unfortunately I have no insight into OKC trends.
https://www.okc.gov/residents/prepare-okc/know-what-to-do/epidemics-and-pandemics
Looks like 40 new cases in OKC I haven't been following it everyday what does an extremely high number and I believe they've been around 15 and 20 for most of the past couple days
Bill Robertson 06-12-2020, 12:58 PM The non-mask wearers are destroying the economy, because their ignorant presence keeps a large segment of the population from engaging with businesses and entertainment venues. I want an ice cream cone, but it is not worth the risk of contracting a deadly virus. Businesses like the Home Depot example above will not get a dime of my money.
Unfortunately I manage a couple building and grounds maintenance contracts so I don’t have a choice but to do business with H-D and Lowe’s. At least I have a stash of N95 masks.
Bill Robertson 06-12-2020, 01:01 PM americans are increasingly comfortable going out again according to abc / ipsos polling
% willing to do the following
eat at a restaurant
may 41%
june 59%
stay in a hotel
may 45%
june 57%
attend church
may 42%
june 57%
go to the mall
may 38%
june 53%
https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2020-06/topline-abc-coronavirus-wave-12.pdf
Malls and hotels I’m not going to anyway. I want to go to my couple favorite bar/grills so bad it hurts but it’s not going to happen for awhile. Church is reopening in phases but we’re not going there for awhile either. At least they have online streaming.
Bunty 06-12-2020, 01:03 PM Not good. I wish people would heed the warnings and adopt the best practices but it isn't going to happen.
It reflects there are not enough deaths. Also not enough, if any, videos of young people in their 20s or 30s getting out of the hospital after being hospitalized for weeks over the virus. Just not enough for the media to sensationalize upon how bad it can be.
kukblue1 06-12-2020, 01:28 PM Is This a Memorial Day/Protest spike? Number of cases I would lean to no but the increase in Hospitalization around the country I would say yes as the time frame is a perfect fit. Only reason I would say no on the test is cause of the back log. Sure people would be getting sick now from Memorial Day and the Protest but have their test been processed yet or we still talking over a week to get results?
kukblue1 06-12-2020, 01:35 PM https://www.healthline.com/health-news/wearing-a-mask-can-help-us-get-out-of-lockdown-safely#Key-study-findings WEAR A MASK
Edmond_Outsider 06-12-2020, 01:41 PM Testing for symptomatic people is getting processed in about 24 hours in OKC. I have a friend who works at the VA hospital who just tested positive.
OKC_Chipper 06-12-2020, 01:43 PM 16159
No one wants more cases but I think this graph is important to keep in mind.
jerrywall 06-12-2020, 02:30 PM Tulsa is having a major spike right now. Unfortunately I have no insight into OKC trends.
https://www.newson6.com/story/5ee36d1e41cd6021bb672eae/whirlpools-tulsa-plant-closing-temporarily-due-to-covid19-outbreak
I wonder if this is playing into Tulsa some. Or if we have yet to see the impact yet reflected in the numbers.
OKC Talker 06-12-2020, 02:44 PM 16159
No one wants more cases but I think this graph is important to keep in mind.
Unless you're thinking that these cases are different than all the others somehow, increased hospitalizations from the increased cases will happen in a week or two.
jdizzle 06-12-2020, 03:22 PM Unless you're thinking that these cases are different than all the others somehow, increased hospitalizations from the increased cases will happen in a week or two.
Why? A lot of the positive tests we see are from weeks ago. Most are recovered by now.
OKC_Chipper 06-12-2020, 03:31 PM Unless you're thinking that these cases are different than all the others somehow, increased hospitalizations from the increased cases will happen in a week or two.
Hasn’t everyone been saying these results are from two weeks ago? If so wouldn’t the hospitalizations be occurring now?
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