Why aren't they testing the workers? That's how to get back to normal. Test everyone. Have the sick ones stay home.

There are a few problems with testing workers:

- Tests are still very much a scarce supply, so testing everyone is hard.
- Tests are also fairly unreliable with a problematic number of false negatives. Together with the fact that a big number of people are asymptomatic it means that even testing and symptom checking isn’t going to identify all sick people.
- Testing everyone just tests a single point in time. All it means is that right now this person is negative, but it doesn’t prevent them from being positive tomorrow. Combined with the delay in getting results it means that I can be tested Monday, get sick Tuesday, get my negative result on Wednesday and go to work.

Testing everyone, if the resources are there, is a good surveillance tool. It gives you a good idea how widespread it is and how many people are symptomatic and things like that. You get a ton of great data from that. But it’s somewhat useless as an operational tool to keep a place safe I think.

Numbers just updated for Saturday:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona050220a.jpg

Have you ever taken the time to learn about that case? To use your words, "Yeap, folks, this is an accurate representation of modern, ill informed America."

McDonald's deserved that lawsuit. They'd faced numerous suits and warnings before and maintained negligent practices. The woman faced incredibly serious burns that were preventable.

Your post then dives into a rant about what we should like the answer is clear. "Opening the economy" too soon may be worse for the economy. Arguing against strawmen isn't helpful. EVERYONE WANTS THE ECONOMY OPEN. Not just you. We're just trying to figure out how to get there.

Edit: Pete and others already responded to this and I saw after I posted it. I can't believe after learning about the McDonald's case details anyone would think that it is a good example, but whatever.

I remember that steaming hot coffee they used to serve. No way you could even think about taking a sip without it burning your mouth. There was just no reason or need to serve people something that hot.

Numbers just updated for Saturday:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona050220a.jpg

One of the key metrics they've been studying is *current* hospitalizations, and that's been steadily dropping - down from 255 yesterday to 236 today. I would also encourage everyone to read the much more detailed epidemiological breakdown the OHD has started - they put together a much more comprehensive package of statistics than the daily release affords. What's really interesting is that they track new case growth back to the date of symptom onset, not merely the day a positive test came back. That track, combined with the hospitalization decrease, actually shows a much more favorable trend.

I would love to see more antibody studies performed like the one released by Stanford University, which strongly suggests that actual infection rates are perhaps 50x or more than what has been confirmed. The number of people who may have had COVID-19 and *never* exhibited symptoms may be astonishingly higher than anyone might have predicted. Have to see more data to make conclusions, but it is very interesting information.

I wonder what the Death Rate is if it were broken down a little more. Like 55-65 and 45-55 and 35-45 etc. Or even just 55 and over. Currently the Death rate is .6% for under 50 and that is confirmed cases only. Any live lost is bad however i bet that percentage is even lower when you figure people that didn't know they had it or had it and never got tested. Even in Italy and New York the death rate is pretty low for people under 45-50 range. Not saying that is a good thing and we should all be going out having a good time. Just saying that if your younger and healthy you have a great chance of living.

I would love to see more antibody studies performed like the one released by Stanford University, which strongly suggests that actual infection rates are perhaps 50x or more than what has been confirmed. The number of people who may have had COVID-19 and *never* exhibited symptoms may be astonishingly higher than anyone might have predicted. Have to see more data to make conclusions, but it is very interesting information.

For those following this closely, COVID-19 has provided a good reminder of the complexity of the research process. A lot of people tend to think that most studies are supposed to provide clear answers to problems, but in most cases, they just provide a piece of a puzzle... taken by itself a study can even be misleading depending on sample, methods, etc. Far too many people often cherry pick studies that confirm their desired conclusions as if they are the end-all-be-all. However, combined with other studies over time a clearer picture usually emerges. We're seeing this process play out at an accelerated speed.

For those following this closely, COVID-19 has provided a good reminder of the complexity of the research process. A lot of people tend to think that most studies are supposed to provide clear answers to problems, but in most cases, they just provide a piece of a puzzle... taken by itself a study can even be misleading depending on sample, methods, etc. Far too many people often cherry pick studies that confirm their desired conclusions as if they are the end-all-be-all. However, combined with other studies over time a clearer picture usually emerges. We're seeing this process play out at an accelerated speed.

Thank you for saying this. Science progresses by fits and starts. I remember a mentor saying "you just have to move the ball forward a small distance. That's what drives the field."

Who is doing Antibody testing in OKC? Watched news 9 and Amanda Taylor said she got a test for $55. Didn't really say where through. For that price I wouldn't mind getting one. Who knows I was like to a Thunder game then concert then another Thunder game end of February. Maybe I have been exposed

Who is doing Antibody testing in OKC? Watched news 9 and Amanda Taylor said she got a test for $55. Didn't really say where through. For that price I wouldn't mind getting one. Who knows I was like to a Thunder game then concert then another Thunder game end of February. Maybe I have been exposed
I’d like to know too. I would get one. I had “something” for about two weeks in mid March. Haven’t felt 100% but a few days since then. I’ve been curious.

I can't believe Stillwater gave in to these lunatics and let them win. Shameful.

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/stillwater-officials-take-down-public-face-mask-requirement-after-reported-threats-of-violence-against-workers/

I can't believe Stillwater gave in to these lunatics and let them win. Shameful.

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/stillwater-officials-take-down-public-face-mask-requirement-after-reported-threats-of-violence-against-workers/
Stillwater is like every place else. The majority of the people don't want to wear masks. When I stopped outside the Stillwater police station to get a free mask, I was disappointed there was no line other than one woman in front of me. But no wonder. With only 22 cases and no deaths, I wouldn't be surprised a lot of Stillwater people think the situation is overblown and there is no worse of a crisis going on than several years ago when an OSU professor died from the flu and nothing was shut down.

It should be pointed out that the Stillwater mayor and city manager apparently misinterpreted the court ruling in which a Guthrie citizen sued city of Guthrie for requiring masks be worn. But the the court threw it out because there was no case, due to no citation given to complainant. Stillwater city leaders apparently foolishly thought the court ruling meant Guthrie's required mask order was ruled constitutional.

Hopefully, COVID-19 cases don't go greatly up in coming weeks in Stillwater and across the state. The economy of Stillwater doesn't need OSU to change its mind and not hold classes as usual this fall. Remaining college students will be moving out by June 1, due to expired leases, so considerably fewer people will surely reduce the risk this summer.

The lines at Lowes, at least in Midwest City were were absolutely insane. I had to travel to the Midwest City location because they were the only store in the metro with the product I needed. I've been to Home Depot recently, they are limiting customers and have a small line out front, at least at the Quail Springs location, however no lines to checkout.

Literally a 40 minute line at the Midwest City Lowes to checkout, 3 registers open, self checkout and garden center closed. The store was packed.

This seems to be counterproductive with social distancing.

If I need stuff to fix my house, I'll be sticking with waiting outside Home Depot from now on.

https://i.imgur.com/ZXJZtWT.jpg

No wonder about Lowes. It's time to get busy, if you still want to plant flowers and vegetables.

I wonder what the Death Rate is if it were broken down a little more. Like 55-65 and 45-55 and 35-45 etc. Or even just 55 and over. Currently the Death rate is .6% for under 50 and that is confirmed cases only. Any live lost is bad however i bet that percentage is even lower when you figure people that didn't know they had it or had it and never got tested. Even in Italy and New York the death rate is pretty low for people under 45-50 range. Not saying that is a good thing and we should all be going out having a good time. Just saying that if your younger and healthy you have a great chance of living.

Preoccupation with the "death rate" is somewhat misguided. Many people who survive this virus have debilitating symptoms, such as permanent lung damage, confusion and brain damage, as well as life-changing organ damage. Covid-19 doesn't just affect the lungs. Researchers are learning about this in real time; one of the frightening aspects of this is found in young, "healthy" people, who are having strokes after being diagnosed.

CV-19 has been shown to affect all internal organs. As it mutates, CV-19 will continue to evolve, but narrowing the focus of concern to deaths and / or life-threatening pneumonia in older adults and people with underlying conditions is tunnel visioned.

The lines at Lowes, at least in Midwest City were were absolutely insane. I had to travel to the Midwest City location because they were the only store in the metro with the product I needed. I've been to Home Depot recently, they are limiting customers and have a small line out front, at least at the Quail Springs location, however no lines to checkout.

Literally a 40 minute line at the Midwest City Lowes to checkout, 3 registers open, self checkout and garden center closed. The store was packed.

This seems to be counterproductive with social distancing.

If I need stuff to fix my house, I'll be sticking with waiting outside Home Depot from now on.

https://i.imgur.com/ZXJZtWT.jpg

I have been somewhat impressed with Home Depot during this ordeal. I'm not crazy about supporting the company overall, but Lowe's has just been horrible, and clearly doesn't care about its employees or the people who patronize its stores.

Stillwater is like every place else. The majority of the people don't want to wear masks. When I stopped outside the Stillwater police station to get a free mask, I was disappointed there was no line other than one woman in front of me. But no wonder. With only 22 cases and no deaths, I wouldn't be surprised a lot of Stillwater people think the situation is overblown and there is no worse of a crisis going on than several years ago when an OSU professor died from the flu and nothing was shut down.

It should be pointed out that the Stillwater mayor and city manager apparently misinterpreted the court ruling in which a Guthrie citizen sued city of Guthrie for requiring masks be worn. But the the court threw it out because there was no case, due to no citation given to complainant. Stillwater city leaders apparently foolishly thought the court ruling meant Guthrie's required mask order was ruled constitutional.

Hopefully, COVID-19 cases don't go greatly up in coming weeks in Stillwater and across the state. The economy of Stillwater doesn't need OSU to change its mind and not hold classes as usual this fall. Remaining college students will be moving out by June 1, due to expired leases, so considerably fewer people will surely reduce the risk this summer.

The ignorance of some Oklahomans continues to bring a disgraceful stigma to the State as a whole. Maybe Oklahoma is simply incapable of responding in a rational way to any legitimate role of government sanctioned by both the holy bible and the constitution.

The ignorance of some Oklahomans continues to bring a disgraceful stigma to the State as a whole. Maybe Oklahoma is simply incapable of responding in a rational way to any legitimate role of government sanctioned by both the holy bible and the constitution.

To the nation, too. The story has been on CNN Fox News and NBC. Ohio governor has admitted going too far in ordering everyone to wear a mask.

Preoccupation with the "death rate" is somewhat misguided. Many people who survive this virus have debilitating symptoms, such as permanent lung damage, confusion and brain damage, as well as life-changing organ damage. Covid-19 doesn't just affect the lungs. Researchers are learning about this in real time; one of the frightening aspects of this is found in young, "healthy" people, who are having strokes after being diagnosed.

CV-19 has been shown to affect all internal organs. As it mutates, CV-19 will continue to evolve, but narrowing the focus of concern to deaths and / or life-threatening pneumonia in older adults and people with underlying conditions is tunnel visioned.
I hope the word "many" is an exaggeration. Anyway, I think I'll put off for at least two weeks before going to restaurants to see if there is a spike. I don't want to be a guinea pig or canary in the coal mine. I was kinda surprised to see the rooftop at Coney Island looking busy Sat. night. Not sure if social distancing was being observed.

The ignorance of some Oklahomans continues to bring a disgraceful stigma to the State as a whole. Maybe Oklahoma is simply incapable of responding in a rational way to any legitimate role of government sanctioned by both the holy bible and the constitution.

As my late aunt Agnes used to say, " Bless their hearts. Every one in Oklahoma tries to be so friendly. "
It wasn't a compliment.

Stillwater is like every place else. The majority of the people don't want to wear masks. When I stopped outside the Stillwater police station to get a free mask, I was disappointed there was no line other than one woman in front of me. But no wonder. With only 22 cases and no deaths, I wouldn't be surprised a lot of Stillwater people think the situation is overblown and there is no worse of a crisis going on than several years ago when an OSU professor died from the flu and nothing was shut down.

It should be pointed out that the Stillwater mayor and city manager apparently misinterpreted the court ruling in which a Guthrie citizen sued city of Guthrie for requiring masks be worn. But the the court threw it out because there was no case, due to no citation given to complainant. Stillwater city leaders apparently foolishly thought the court ruling meant Guthrie's required mask order was ruled constitutional.

Hopefully, COVID-19 cases don't go greatly up in coming weeks in Stillwater and across the state. The economy of Stillwater doesn't need OSU to change its mind and not hold classes as usual this fall. Remaining college students will be moving out by June 1, due to expired leases, so considerably fewer people will surely reduce the risk this summer.

I have a feeling when school starts in the fall Stillwater is going to have a spike like Norman with all the students flooding into town from other places.

121 new cases and 0 new deaths reported by Ok Dept of Health today. I know it’s the weekend but this will be the first day with 0 deaths since 3/23.

I don't know if this is the appropriate thread or if it's already been mentioned, but Hobby Lobby warehouse has called at least some employees to start back to work tomorrow, May 4th.

To our patients,

Thank you! Your willingness to adapt to the necessary changes of how we practice has been humbling and gratifying, and we are thankful for the faith you continue to place in us for your care.

To help our patients in these uncertain times, SSM Health Oklahoma has secured broad testing capability for COVID19. We are now offering PCR Nasopharyngeal testing to our existing patients who are not having any symptoms. Broad testing, combined with contact tracing, is a critical component to an effective response to COVID19.

We hope that you will take advantage of our testing capability, and that it gives you some peace of mind during this unsettling time.


Kevin L. Lewis, MD
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SSM Health Medical Group – Oklahoma


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SSM Health Oklahoma
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What do I need to do to be tested? Call one of the locations listed above to make an appointment for COVID19 testing. You will need to show up at the designated site. Your car make and model will be taken at the time you make your appointment. Testing will be done in your car, so you do not have to get out and enter the clinics.

Do I have another option if I live in a rural community? At this time, we are offering testing at the six sites listed above. We hope you will find it convenient to travel to the site nearest you. We will keep you up to date as locations are added.

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How will I be contacted with my results? You can check MyChart for test results. If you have not yet activated your MyChart access, now is a great time to do so! We can help you when you schedule your appointment.

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How long will it take to get my results? We are using a specialty reference lab, so anticipate 48-72 hours to receive results.

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I have symptoms suspicious for COVID19, can I get tested this way? No, if you are symptomatic, you should contact your SSM Health Medical Group provider or utilize the free virtual visit evaluation offered by SSM Health. More information is available at ssmhealth.com/coronavirus-updates.

How accurate is the test? Currently, we feel this is one of the most accurate tests available. While the statistics are still evolving regarding test accuracy, we have gone to great lengths to assure that we are providing high quality in this regard.

I got that email too. My primary question, what would it end up costing me and my insurance company? (A BCBS Silver plan, and I haven’t met my deductible yet.)

I don’t think I’ve had it, but I’ve been exposed to someone who has. It would have to have been one of cases with no symptoms, which seems highly unlikely with my health profile.

Well Georgia is seeing MASSIVE case number spikes so I guess we have that to look forward to ...

Well Georgia is seeing MASSIVE case number spikes so I guess we have that to look forward to ...

We are already starting to spike; several straight days of new cases over 100. Give it a couple more weeks and see what happens.

I feel terribly for these businesses, but I don't think many of them are going to make it. As long as the virus is not contained and continues to spread (as it is here in Oklahoma), simply cutting the ribbon and declaring the economy "open" was never going to work.

I wonder how many of the restaurants will simply close because they cannot make a profit and adhere to standards of safety.

I got that email too. My primary question, what would it end up costing me and my insurance company? (A BCBS Silver plan, and I haven’t met my deductible yet.)

I don’t think I’ve had it, but I’ve been exposed to someone who has. It would have to have been one of cases with no symptoms, which seems highly unlikely with my health profile.

According to a BCBSOK announcement no cost for you through May 31 (they will reassess policy as circumstances warrant). However, I would call BCBSOK and find out specific details.


https://www.bcbsok.com/company-info/alerts-announcements/alerts-announcements?lid=k8mxxh2e

So they are testing for the Virus. That is good I guess but just because you go and don't have it don't mean you still can't get it. Who is doing antibody testing? I think that is more important. If you don't have the antibodies it means you still can get it. If you do then you might be a little safer.

So they are testing for the Virus. That is good I guess but just because you go and don't have it don't mean you still can't get it. Who is doing antibody testing? I think that is more important. If you don't have the antibodies it means you still can get it. If you do then you might be a little safer.

Even if you do have antibodies, there's no proof it makes you safe from re-infection.

Even if you do have antibodies, there's no proof it makes you safe from re-infection.

This is true however not sure why this virus would be different then any other virus and also if that was the case why is plasma treatment working so well. Just a thought. On a side note when do you think we hit 200 cases in a day now that things are opening and we are doing more testing? I have May 13th. Also at what point would another shut down happen. I say on that hospitals increase by 50 a day? 40 a day?

This is true however not sure why this virus would be different then any other virus and also if that was the case why is plasma treatment working so well. Just a thought. On a side note when do you think we hit 200 cases in a day now that things are opening and we are doing more testing? I have May 13th. Also at what point would another shut down happen. I say on that hospitals increase by 50 a day? 40 a day?

If you catch a cold, you're not immune to ever catching a cold again (same coronavirus family), ditto for the flu (although the flu has different strains each year, and vaccines are somewhat effective against it, which is not the case for any coronavirus, I believe - no vaccines and no immunity once you've had it).

Dunno about the date, but I'm guessing we spike around 15 days from now, and also don't know about when we'd do another shutdown, hopefully we have some good (not Stitt) minds already working on what to do when cases start spiking.

According to a BCBSOK announcement no cost for you through May 31 (they will reassess policy as circumstances warrant). However, I would call BCBSOK and find out specific details.


https://www.bcbsok.com/company-info/alerts-announcements/alerts-announcements?lid=k8mxxh2e

Thanks for that link. Until someone posted about it and I looked it up, I was unsure if this type of test was antibody or not, since it was for asymptomatic people. It's not.

I have a feeling when school starts in the fall Stillwater is going to have a spike like Norman with all the students flooding into town from other places.

If there is a spike, then I think wearing masks will have to be made mandatory with a fine for failure to do so. If a person gets a citation, then try suing the city, since the court likely won't throw it out. If it gets so bad that it's judged that masks are made mandatory, such as at concerts and sporting events, then fine with me. I don't want to take a chance in getting real sick. The last time I was really sick, it was from strep throat over 10 years ago. My doctor looked at my throat and said, "That looks horrid". I said it sure feels horrid. The doctor said I couldn't go back to work for 3 days. I don't want to be that awfully sick again. Antibiotics prescribed by the doctor, thankfully, promptly killed my strep throat, but that is not possible with COVID-19.

If there is a spike, then I think wearing masks will have to be made mandatory with a fine for failure to do so. If a person gets a citation, then try suing the city, since the court likely won't throw it out. If it gets so bad that it's judged that masks are made mandatory, such as at concerts and sporting events, then fine with me. I don't want to take a chance in getting real sick. The last time I was really sick, it was from strep throat over 10 years ago. My doctor looked at my throat and said, "That looks horrid". I said it sure feels horrid. The doctor said I couldn't go back to work for 3 days. I don't want to be that awfully sick again. Antibiotics prescribed by the doctor, thankfully, promptly killed my strep throat, but that is not possible with COVID-19.

Bunty,

May God bless and keep you always
May your wishes all come true
May you always do for others
And let others do for you
May you build a ladder to the stars
And climb on every rung
May you stay forever young (and never get sick)

Even if you do have antibodies, there's no proof it makes you safe from re-infection.

The WHO really messaged this poorly. While there is no scientific proof yet that antibodies protect you from reinfection, it's highly likely that they do based on similar viruses.

There have been multiple documented cases of people getting reinfected, so it's hard to tell really.

There have been multiple documented cases of people getting reinfected, so it's hard to tell really.

Even in those cases there is the possibility that the original positive was a false positive, the negative tests between positive tests was a false negative, one or more of the tests kits was defective or contaminated, plus there are a few different strains identified so it may be a different strain of covid-19 they got later.

People young and old really need to take seriously the need to wear masks when going to stores. It's the only way to go forward, rather than backward from this virus crisis.

People young and old really need to take seriously the need to wear masks when going to stores. It's the only way to go forward, rather than backward from this virus crisis.

This. But it is not happening. Even restaurants are already violating the mayor's rules on the matter. This is going to last forever because there are just too many self-centered jerks and Covidiots.

Ya my facebook feed was full of people going to restaurants that looked packed. 10 or 15 people at big tables.

Lowes also looked packed from pictures and very few people wearing masks.

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

and what exactly are you basing this on?

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

I agree. I think any vaccine that is created will have a limited effectiveness. I'm thinking we will have to be vaccinated every 6 or 12 months. Keep in mind the common cold is a Coronavirus and we've never developed a vaccine for that.

Each virus has a different reinfection rate. Common cold is about a year, flu is similar. I would expect it to be similar.

Shingles post chicken pox?

Some anecdotal experience shopping today. Sams club for my two week groceries. Completely different experience. Very very busy and many people with no masks. Workers still wearing masks and doing a good job. Most of the non mask wearers were elderly people. Something has for sure changed.

Shingles post chicken pox?
According to the Mayo Clinic Shingles isn’t a reinfection. It’s a reactivation of the virus you carried in your body since you had Chickenpox.

Some anecdotal experience shopping today. Sams club for my two week groceries. Completely different experience. Very very busy and many people with no masks. Workers still wearing masks and doing a good job. Most of the non mask wearers were elderly people. Something has for sure changed.

My experience has been the very young adults (25 & younger) and the very old (60+) are the ones avoiding wearing a mask.

72 new cases and 0 new deaths for the the update today. Back to back days with no reported deaths....

and what exactly are you basing this on?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2010624


To better understand the duration of immunity against respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) and the role of serum antibodies to the surface glycoproteins, F and G, in susceptibility to reinfection, 15 adults with previous natural RSV infection were challenged with RSV of the same strain group (A) at 2, 4, 8, 14, 20, and 26 months after natural infection. By 2 months about one-half and by 8 months two-thirds of the subjects became reinfected. Each challenge resulted in infection in at least one-fourth of the subjects. Within 26 months 73% had two or more and 47% had three or more infections. The duration of immunity tended to increase after two closely spaced infections. Higher neutralizing, F and GA antibody levels before challenge correlated significantly with protection against infection. However, even in subjects with the highest antibody levels, the risk of reinfection was 25%. Specific nasal IgA antibody titers did not correlate significantly with protection. This suggests that humoral neutralizing, F, and G antibodies correlate with resistance to reinfection, but protection is far from complete and is of short duration.

72 new cases and 0 new deaths for the the update today. Back to back days with no reported deaths....

There is a lag in death reporting for some reason.

There is a lag in death reporting for some reason.

From what I understand, that reason is a mixture of several things, one being that it takes a little longer to certify the cause of death, so there will be a lag, and it also appears not a lot of reporting/business is done on the weekends. That being said, we've had this lag and the weekend drop-offs all along, and these are the first days with 0 deaths reported in a bit (especially two in a row), so I'm crossing my fingers that we have many more of these days, and soon.

That being said, I'm sure tomorrow there will be a jump again, probably into the double digits, with the deaths having taken place over the past week. But I still like seeing these 0's for now.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2010624

i see... so comparing it to something that it doesn't share a lot of commonality with to show the commonality... other than both affecting the respiratory tract and a few symptoms, these seem to be completely different after that. look at who is most susceptible to severe cases with RSV's... it's children, young children, that doesn't seem to the case at all with any of the Covid-19 numbers anywhere. when older children and adults get RSV's the serious cases are still very very small, typically only affecting those over 65. again, not really what we are seeing with the Covid-19 numbers, because we are seeing a much larger number of seemingly healthy young adults that are seeing very severe cases.

interesting basis for comparison.

From what I understand, that reason is a mixture of several things, one being that it takes a little longer to certify the cause of death, so there will be a lag, and it also appears not a lot of reporting/business is done on the weekends. That being said, we've had this lag and the weekend drop-offs all along, and these are the first days with 0 deaths reported in a bit (especially two in a row), so I'm crossing my fingers that we have many more of these days, and soon.

That being said, I'm sure tomorrow there will be a jump again, probably into the double digits, with the deaths having taken place over the past week. But I still like seeing these 0's for now.

agree completely. i'd be perfectly happy with only seeing 0's from now on

i see... so comparing it to something that it doesn't share a lot of commonality with to show the commonality... other than both affecting the respiratory tract and a few symptoms, these seem to be completely different after that. look at who is most susceptible to severe cases with RSV's... it's children, young children, that doesn't seem to the case at all with any of the Covid-19 numbers anywhere. when older children and adults get RSV's the serious cases are still very very small, typically only affecting those over 65. again, not really what we are seeing with the Covid-19 numbers, because we are seeing a much larger number of seemingly healthy young adults that are seeing very severe cases.

interesting basis for comparison.

I'm saying that different virus' have different re-infection periods. Immunity can be temporary or forever.

I'm saying that different virus' have different re-infection periods. Immunity can be temporary or forever.

and then you ended it with saying you felt it would be similar to the flu... and that is what i was asking for the basis of your opinions on it

This. But it is not happening. Even restaurants are already violating the mayor's rules on the matter. This is going to last forever because there are just too many self-centered jerks and Covidiots.

I think the biggest problem is that hardly anybody personally knows of anybody who ended up in the hospital over the virus and died. Therefore they think the situation is being ridiculously overblown and so aren't taking it seriously. Surely a good number of us have been very sick with something before and don't want to take a chance with coming down with something bad that may be prolonged with no well established treatment.

This. But it is not happening. Even restaurants are already violating the mayor's rules on the matter. This is going to last forever because there are just too many self-centered jerks and Covidiots.

I think hyperbole won't work with this virus anymore, It was used in the beginning, and people are tired of it. Heck, I am (I am also following the mayors decrees, however). I know people are over hearing about how bad this virus is, as morbid as that may be. So the best course would be to be honest with people, and not exaggerate for effect (i.e. saying this will last forever), The flu will last forever, and has had 50 years of vaccines.

Just my opinion.

Braums i used to work at was full at lunch. Had people telling me. No tables blocked off whatever people sitting back to back and booths and next to one another.

Bunty,
You're right, but I suppose that I am one of the unlucky few. My neighbor (age 75) checked into the hospital, was diagnosed with the virus and two days later was dead. He was in decent health for his age.
C. T.

I was going through the data from the state department of health and thought these were interesting:


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https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/69
It looks like people got tired of staying home about mid-April and have been ramping up their travel since then. I wonder if we're going to see a huge jump in the next few days.

https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/16
There hasn't been a corresponding ramp up of hospitalizations and we seem to have sufficient hospital beds and resources. Right around now is where we would start seeing new cases from those people who started traveling more in mid-April though

https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/70?District%20Selection=OCCHD,TCCHD
You can pull from the data and create your own visualizations for specific areas to look at the trend lines. Check out the spike from the pork processing plant in texas county (district 1)!