Did you even read this?

Apparently we have different definitions of "minimal." The case rates speak for themselves:



Europe (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#c-europe%22)




Country,
Other
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Active
Cases
Serious,
Critical
Tot Cases/
1M pop
Deaths/
1M pop
Total
Tests
Tests/
1M pop


San Marino (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/san-marino/)
488
+12
40

62
386
4
14,382
1,179
1,872
55,171


Vatican City (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/holy-see/)
9



2
7

11,236





Andorra (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/andorra/)
717

37

282
398
17
9,280
479
1,673
21,653


Luxembourg (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/luxembourg/)
3,618

78

670
2,870
32
5,780
125
34,962
55,852


Iceland (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iceland/)
1,785
+7
10

1,462
313
5
5,231
29
44,468
130,312


Spain (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/)
208,389
+4,211
21,717
+435
85,915
100,757
7,705
4,457
464
930,230
19,896


Gibraltar (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/gibraltar/)
132



120
12
1
3,918

1,912
56,751


Faeroe Islands (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/faeroe-islands/)
185



178
7

3,786

6,270
128,318


Belgium (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belgium/)
41,889
+933
6,262
+264
9,433
26,194
1,020
3,614
540
171,400
14,789


Isle of Man (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/isle-of-man/)
307

9

209
89
15
3,610
106
2,509
29,506


Switzerland (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/switzerland/)
28,268
+205
1,478

19,400
7,390
386
3,266
171
227,554
26,293


Ireland (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/)
16,040

730

9,233
6,077
315
3,248
148
111,584
22,598


Italy (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/)
183,957

24,648

51,600
107,709
2,471
3,043
408
1,450,150
23,985


Channel Islands (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/channel-islands/)
496

24

256
216

2,853
138
3,320
19,095


France (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france/)
158,050

20,796

39,181
98,073
5,433
2,421
319
463,662
7,103





South America (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#c-south-america%22)




Country,
Other
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Active
Cases
Serious,
Critical
Tot Cases/
1M pop
Deaths/
1M pop
Total
Tests
Tests/
1M pop


Falkland Islands (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/falkland-islands-malvinas/)
11



3
8

3,161

319
91,667


Ecuador (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ecuador/)
10,398

520

1,207
8,671
137
589
29
33,389
1,892


Chile (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/chile/)
10,832

147

4,969
5,716
392
567
8
122,357
6,401


Peru (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/peru/)
17,837

484

6,982
10,371
380
541
15
155,724
4,723


French Guiana (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/french-guiana/)
97

1

83
13
1
325
3




Brazil (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/)
43,592
+513
2,769
+28
24,325
16,498
8,318
205
13
291,922
1,373


Uruguay (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uruguay/)
543

12

324
207
10
156
3
13,923
4,008






Oceania (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#c-oceania%22)




Country,
Other
Total
Cases
New
Cases
Total
Deaths
New
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Active
Cases
Serious,
Critical
Tot Cases/
1M pop
Deaths/
1M pop
Total
Tests
Tests/
1M pop


New Zealand (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/new-zealand/)
1,451
+6
14
+1
1,036
401
2
301
3
94,797
19,658


Australia (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/)
6,649
+4
74
+3
4,920
1,655
47
261
3
452,441
17,743


French Polynesia (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/french-polynesia/)
57



35
22
1
203

1,655
5,892

It seems to me we use/used the numbers to shut down businesses. If numbers are being used as gospel to keep business shut down its fair to ask how we determine.

Of course it's fair to ask and discuss as we are doing.

But when someone goes into a conversation with an obvious agenda, it's never about getting to actual facts, it's about twisting facts to fit a narrative in service of an end goal.

Of course it's fair to ask and discuss as we are doing.

But when someone goes into a conversation with an obvious agenda, it's never about getting to actual facts, it's about twisting facts to fit a narrative in service of an end goal.

I still have not seen how we determine which was my original question. I would need that data to support or deny the other parts. I explained why I asked for the data to the best of my ability. But without knowing determination procedures for OK its a dead end.

I still have not seen how we determine which was my original question. I would need that data to support or deny the other parts. I explained why I asked for the data to the best of my ability. But without knowing determination procedures for OK its a dead end.

The determination is made when the attending physician makes that call that Covid-19 was at least a contributing factor to the death.

It's not that hard to understand.

Numbers just updated for Wednesday:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona042220a.jpg

This seems to be the most level headed expert on the matter. Reality is we can will only be able to test 1 percent of the population by fall. There is currently no long term plan for when lockdowns are lifted. The population was sold the idea that 1 month of lockdowns would exterminate the virus.

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/04/20/coronavirus-infectious-disease-doctor

Here is the latest podcast from him.
https://link.chtbl.com/AsZSygYs

Apparently we have different definitions of "minimal." The case rates speak for themselves:

Just remember that correlation does not imply causation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation). That's one of the problems with the modeling that the state of Oklahoma is using where they're just looking at pure numbers and not the reasons behind them. What has the actual weather been like during the period these numbers are coming from? When was the first case and where are they on the "curve"? What lockdown procedures have they used? What's the population density in these countries? Etc. Those numbers mean nothing without understanding what's behind them.

If people who want to open the economy so bad would just focus on how to do so safely (e.g., testing, tracing, PPE, business protocols) then we'd be more on our way to doing so. We all want businesses open. All of us. I'm terrified about this could lead to famine in third world countries (https://visionsofed.com/2018/09/16/episode-89-students-rights-in-schools-with-kimberlee-ried/). But, if we get this wrong, then it won't work. Either people will stay home because they will feel unsafe or we'll just end up back in shelter-in-place because of an explosion of cases.

Famine in world countries seems like a given at this point. The supply chain disruptions are a real thing. Wont be long before significant inflation kicks in too.

The population was sold the idea that 1 month of lockdowns would exterminate the virus.
I don't know who/what you were following. It was to slow the spread.

I don't know who/what you were following. It was to slow the spread.

Seems like the general public was/is(people are catching on now) thinking this was going to be like China/South Korea. There wasn't really an effort to correct them. I think a lot of exports think they can model South Korea also. South Korea did a lot of testing in a concentrated area. The crazy church group outbreak helped alert them to the problem and they acted quickly.

I don't know who/what you were following. It was to slow the spread.

While I agree with you that the message being delivered by those taking the virus seriously was unilaterally "we need to slow the spread", I will say I have seen that the message received for a lot of people was a concept leading toward extermination. I've seen more posts that I care to admit of "Stay at home, you're just extending this problem", which is one step a way from "Stay at home, so the problem will go away".

From both a virus and economic perspective, we need to find a sweet spot where the virus is spreading at a rate that our hospitals can handle. Slowing the spread too much is only going to expose us to massive spike when we're lulled into a sense of comfort and then another reactive shut down.

Again, we won't have a vaccine until Summer 2021 regardless, so there is no escaping the spread to a significant amount of the population.

Not specifically OKC, but first death from the virus was 3 weeks earlier than we thought, so probably any modeling/predictions are probably incorrect.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/first-u-s-coronavirus-fatality-found-three-weeks-earlier-than-previously-known.html

The iliad.

epic!

This article is not from an expert, but a sportswriter from Utah (https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/04/22/second-wave-coronavirus/). Nonetheless, he outlines the pros and cons of four approaches. I found it helpful.


Here are four strategies we can choose from for the recovery battle, from fewest deaths to most deaths.

1. Stay closed until the virus is eliminated or we have a vaccine.

2. Test, trace, and contain until elimination or vaccine.

3. Herd immunity for most, quarantine the vulnerable.

4. Open the doors, go back to normal.

Personally, I think option 2 is the only one that makes sense. We have to pour resources and effort into making option 2 viable. Unfortunately, we're not ready for it yet, which is why opening too soon is a mistake. We want to have a plan in place before opening up. This is also why people need to agree to quit being stubborn about apps on phones that could help trace those infected and alert others... fight for privacy, not rejecting the idea.

Seems like the general public was/is(people are catching on now) thinking this was going to be like China/South Korea. There wasn't really an effort to correct them. I think a lot of exports think they can model South Korea also. South Korea did a lot of testing in a concentrated area. The crazy church group outbreak helped alert them to the problem and they acted quickly.

South Korean law also affords the country's telecom companies sweeping powers (https://www.lawfareblog.com/lessons-america-how-south-korean-authorities-used-law-fight-coronavirus), the likes of which most Americans would never, under any circumstances, accept.

South Korean law also affords the country's telecom companies sweeping powers (https://www.lawfareblog.com/lessons-america-how-south-korean-authorities-used-law-fight-coronavirus), the likes of which most Americans would never, under any circumstances, accept.

Which is almost comical considering this type of geolocation data tracing is basically ALREADY HAPPENING.

This article is not from an expert, but a sportswriter from Utah (https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/04/22/second-wave-coronavirus/). Nonetheless, he outlines the pros and cons of four approaches. I found it helpful.



Personally, I think option 2 is the only one that makes sense. We have to pour resources and effort into making option 2 viable. Unfortunately, we're not ready for it yet, which is why opening too soon is a mistake. We want to have a plan in place before opening up. This is also why people need to agree to quit being stubborn about apps on phones that could help trace those infected and alert others... fight for privacy, not rejecting the idea.

I feel like there's an option somewhere between 2 or 3. Especially since I don't know if we're going to able to eliminate or get a vaccine in less than 18 or more months. I thought much of the purpose of flattening the curve was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, stock up on PPE and ventilators and such, and to give us time to ramp up testing and medical capacity. The analogy I heard was comparing it to plowing a pile of snow. When you flatten the mound, you still have the same amount of snow, spread out over a longer time. Maybe I've been wrong in this perception?

If I'm not though, I feel like it's a do #1 and #2 until certain criteria, and then cautiously start moving towards #3 with checks and gates in place where we can move backwards quickly if we see an increase or surge. This seems to characterize the plan as layed out in the governors' press conference on Friday from Integris.

Looks like Stitt wants to start reopening the state soon.


https://twitter.com/casteelpolitics/status/1253038767117602824

Yep, a bunch of folks caught cases in November.
It was flying low-key under the radar.
We have more immunity to this V than we think.

Said everyone after the first wave of the Spanish flu.

Looks like Stitt wants to start reopening the state soon.


https://twitter.com/casteelpolitics/status/1253038767117602824

Well this will be interesting. Stating next Friday phase 1 starts.

Which is almost comical considering this type of geolocation data tracing is basically ALREADY HAPPENING.

See Patriot Act. Cops have been getting cell data for years without a warrant.

Businesses such as hair salons, spas, nail salons and pet groomers will be allowed to open by appointment only starting Friday so long as they maintain social distancing recommendations and "adhere to strict sanitation protocols," Stitt said.

As of May 1, more businesses will be able to open statewide, Stitt said at a press conference at the state Capitol to outline a roadmap for reopening Oklahoma businesses. Restaurant dining rooms, movie theaters, gyms and churches will be able to reopen at that date.

https://oklahoman.com/article/5660710/stitt-oklahoma-businesses-can-start-reopening-starting-friday

https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/governor-stitt-to-give-update-on-coronavirus-response-today


Gov. Stitt says in Phase One, Oklahomans should continue to do the following: avoid social gatherings that don't allow for social distancing and minimize non-essential travel. He says employers should create phases for people to return to work, while keeping common areas closed and honoring requests and accommodations for high risk employees.

Gov. Stitt continued by adding that personal care businesses can reopen Friday for appointment only, and must have strict sanitation. This would include such businesses as pet groomers, hair salons, spas, etc.

Grocery stores should continue to have special hours for the most vulnerable in the community.

Beginning May 1, Gov. Stitt says the following businesses can reopen, if they comply to all of the precautions:
-Restaurants
-Movie Theaters
-Gyms
-Churches
-Sporting Venues

During Phase One, bars will remain closed, says Gov. Stitt.

Gov. Stitt says it is important to note that if hospital data remain manageable for two weeks then we will go onto Phase Two.

During Phase two, the most vulnerable in the community will still partake in implementing precautions. Sporting events and bars will be able to reopen, and funerals and weddings can resume with more than 10 people.

If hospital data continues to be manageable for another two weeks after the beginning of Phase Two, then Phase 3 will be implemented.

Will be interesting to see what Holt and other mayors do in terms of keeping their own restrictions.

Two weeks is a mistake.

Should be 3 or 4 weeks.

Two weeks is a mistake.

Should be 3 or 4 weeks.

At least.

Two weeks is a mistake.

Should be 3 or 4 weeks.

I agree. I also expect that the major cities will be more strict than the state on reopening. The 2 weeks might be sufficient for many of the smaller and rural communities though.

Will be interesting to see what Holt and other mayors do in terms of keeping their own restrictions.

Mayor Clark has solicited opinions from the residents of Norman. Additionally she has asked the Guv to listen to what the mayors of 3 largest cities say. Clark indicated Norman is not opening on 4-30.

He was asked if he would force cities to follow this order. He said “he would cross that bridge when he got there.”

This will be interesting

Stitt did not explain well enough in his press conference that the restrictions put in place by the mayors of OKC, Tulsa, etc. are still in place. My Facebook is blowing up with OKC businesses "proudly announcing " that they'll be open for business on Friday.

Will be interesting to see what Holt and other mayors do in terms of keeping their own restrictions.On KFOR there’s a couple pages of tweets that pretty well state either directly from the mayors or through Jessica Bruno that OKC and Norman will reopen only when those cities feel it’s the right time.

Stitt did not explain well enough in his press conference that the restrictions put in place by the mayors of OKC, Tulsa, etc. are still in place. My Facebook is blowing up with OKC businesses "proudly announcing " that they'll be open for business on Friday.

I would think that, technically, the OKC Police belong to Holt and he could continue to enforce whatever restrictions he deems are necessary, over the Governor's objection.

We're about to see a massive rift between city and state officials.

The problem here is that, in addition to potentially having zero ramifications for OKC based businesses if the state trumps the municipal orders, Mayor Holt's pronouncements don't affect Norman, Edmond, Moore, Yukon, Bethany, Warr Acres, Midwest City, and all other 50% of the 1.4M populated metro. Measures would be substantially undermined if Edmond, Norman, etc. don't fall in line with Holt.

It's the same reason Cuomo is the face of New York City right now, and not DeBlasio.

We're about to see a massive rift between city and state officials.

The problem here is that, in addition to potentially having zero ramifications for OKC based businesses if the state trumps the municipal orders, Mayor Holt's pronouncements don't affect Norman, Edmond, Moore, Yukon, Bethany, Warr Acres, Midwest City, and all other 50% of the 1.4M populated metro. Measures would be substantially undermined if Edmond, Norman, etc. don't fall in line with Holt.

Mayor Clark of Norman already voiced disagreement with this position of the Guv. But it wasn't due to falling in line with Holt. She was out in front of this when Holt was still figuring it out.

I am generally curious on if the Governor will make his new orders so they supersede local orders.
Unless he has reassurances from OKC and Tulsa Mayors that they are going to modify their own proclamations after April 30th, but I don't feel like Mayor Holt or Bynum would actually do this.

Also, it is interesting to me that the Gov. orders don't mention retail establishments, I wonder if he is leaving that up to the cities or the individual retailers them-selfs.

Mayor Clark of Norman already voiced disagreement with this position of the Guv. But it wasn't due to falling in line with Holt. She was out in front of this when Holt was still figuring it out.

The only thing that matters is that Edmond, Norman, OKC, etc have a plan that applies consistently throughout the metro, regardless of origin. If we have a bunch of suburbs following less restrictive rules and with other following more restrictive rules, the more restrictive rules are substantially undermined.

Press release:

***************

Statement from Mayor Holt: personal care services in OKC must remain closed at least through April 30
04/22/2020

Mayor Bynum and I, as well as the Oklahoma Municipal League, have been in constant communication with the Governor this last week as he has developed a statewide vision for a new phase in pandemic response. We are very appreciative for that line of communication with the Governor.

As was announced three weeks ago, and in the interest of public health, our city’s shelter in place proclamation lasts through April 30th, as does the closure of personal care services.

On the advice of our local public health experts, it is our intent to follow the spirit of the White House criteria for potentially entering a new phase after April 30th. We dearly hope that public health data allows Oklahoma City to consider entering that new phase on May 1st as the Governor has envisioned. We will continue to monitor public health data and will provide updates on our local plans as we have them.

The only thing that matters is that Edmond, Norman, OKC, etc have a plan that applies consistently throughout the metro, regardless of origin. If we have a bunch of suburbs following less restrictive rules and with other following more restrictive rules, the more restrictive rules are substantially undermined.

Didn't we have a city or two in the metro drag their feet in declaring an emergency or locking down? Like Del City or something?

I don’t remember how long but in Yukon restaurants were open at least a couple of days after OKC closed up.

In talking to several restaurant operators, none are anxious to reopen.

June is probably more realistic but even then some may choose to wait longer. It's not like people are going to be stampeding to dine in, especially because the workers will likely still be taking extra precautions only to remind everyone that they could be contaminated.

It's going to take more than some politicians with obvious agendas to restore consumer confidence.

In talking to several restaurant operators, none are anxious to reopen.

June is probably more realistic but even then some may choose to wait longer. It's not like people are going to be stampeding to dine in, especially because the workers will likely still be taking extra precautions only to remind everyone that they could be contaminated.

It's going to take more than some politicians with obvious agendas to restore consumer confidence.Part of me can’t wait to get back to my couple regular places and see familiar faces. Then part of me is really nervous about going back anytime soon. I’m certain the latter will win.

Part of me can’t wait to get back to my couple regular places and see familiar faces. Then part of me is really nervous about going back anytime soon. I’m certain the latter will win.

I have been thinking hard about this. I probably wouldn't go back into a place until the numbers get way lower. 100 new cases a day for the whole state isn't bad I guess. How many of those in the metro? Either way I would like the case count to be down to about 10 a day in the Metro and 50 for the state. Then maybe I'll start going out.

Most people who had AIDS died of pneumonia or other causes. This is the way diseases work.

This is correct and I thank you for mentioning it.

I'm very disappointed how few people in OKC are wearing masks in public. The masks are to protect others. What happened to the Oklahoma Standard or even the Christian notion of I am my brother's keeper? Even worse, it seems to be mainly younger people who are not wearing masks.

I'm very disappointed how few people in OKC are wearing masks in public. The masks are to protect others. What happened to the Oklahoma Standard or even the Christian notion of I am my brother's keeper? Even worse, it seems to be mainly younger people who are not wearing masks. Wearing a mask is simply not that big a deal. I sewed (yes I sew) myself a half dozen and wear one anytime I’m in a store, etc. I don’t know about the age thing though. Since I’m 60ish I go to the grocery in the first hour that many stores have set aside for 55 or 60 and older. I’ve estimated maybe 20% of customers wearing masks. And this would be considered a high risk group.

However, this makes me wonder. If so many people are ignoring safety protocols now anyway will we see a huge uptick in numbers when we reopen. I don’t know. It will be interesting. But hopefully not scary.

I agree. I also expect that the major cities will be more strict than the state on reopening. The 2 weeks might be sufficient for many of the smaller and rural communities though.
Stillwater to continue shelter-in-place order despite Stitt's plan.
https://www.ocolly.com/news/stillwater-to-continue-shelter-in-place-order-despite-stitts-plan/article_13ae59fe-84de-11ea-835d-bf73c6deca78.html

Stillwater and Payne County have no deaths from COVID-19, so don't see any use in extending shut down there beyond April 30. Smaller cities and counties with no deaths will quite likely feel the same way.

In talking to several restaurant operators, none are anxious to reopen.

June is probably more realistic but even then some may choose to wait longer. It's not like people are going to be stampeding to dine in, especially because the workers will likely still be taking extra precautions only to remind everyone that they could be contaminated.

It's going to take more than some politicians with obvious agendas to restore consumer confidence.

Keeping people 6 ft. apart at tables and making them wait for tables doesn't sound very profitable.

He was asked if he would force cities to follow this order. He said “he would cross that bridge when he got there.”

This will be interesting

But the governor never objected to the cities shutting things down locally before he did statewide .

Keeping people 6 ft. apart at tables and making them wait for tables doesn't sound very profitable.

I've been saying that for weeks, and read a story today that quoted a restaurateur (wow, that is right, always thought it had an "n" in it) that said to make a profit, he has to have 90-100 people (or tables) in the restaurant, and if he can only have half that amount, he'll still go under. He's also not taking one of the loans for that reason - if he hire all his staff back, then only have half the customers, he won't make the profit he need and he'll have to close *again*.

But the governor never objected to the cities shutting things down locally before he did statewide .

And I'd be surprised if he objected now. And it sort of makes sense... the state should set the "minimum" standards, but those standards might be more appropriate for more rural or smaller communities, or areas which have largely been spared. I'd expect the more heavily populated urban areas to maybe take a little longer or have higher criteria. Regardless, if they are going to exceed the state guidance, I hope communities publicize it and it's clear cut and science based. If Edmond, for example, wants to remain closed I think it's fair to expect them to share the guidance and information they're using to make that decision on, and I'll be asking for it if it's not offered.

Didn’t know which thread to post in but here’s a site that tracks all companies involved in vaccine research.

COVID-19 vaccine tracker

Every single COVID-19 vaccine research effort, their status and timelines:

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker

I've been saying that for weeks, and read a story today that quoted a restaurateur (wow, that is right, always thought it had an "n" in it) that said to make a profit, he has to have 90-100 people (or tables) in the restaurant, and if he can only have half that amount, he'll still go under. He's also not taking one of the loans for that reason - if he hire all his staff back, then only have half the customers, he won't make the profit he need and he'll have to close *again*.

This is only because most of our restaurants are too big. Renting out 4, 5, 6 thousand square feet is what's going to kill a lot of operators if they cannot renegotiate their rent. Beyond the physical space, having that many tables gives you the *prospect* of needing to service all those tables at the same time, so you have to have more kitchen staff and host/bus staff which you're likely going to have to pay higher wages to.

The problem is that keeping people 6 feet a part indoors is not going to prevent COVID-19 spread. A recent study showed how a lot of people in line with the air conditioning flow were all infected. I support local businesses in my community almost every day, but I don’t anticipate eating inside a restaurant this year. Maybe businesses with large outdoor spaces could make something work. I’ll keep doing contact free carry out or delivery.

The problem (for those concerned about the virus or spread thereof) is that keeping people 6 feet a part indoors is not going to prevent COVID-19 spread. A recent study showed how a lot of people in line with the air conditioning flow were all infected. I support local businesses in my community almost every day, but I don’t anticipate eating inside a restaurant this year. Maybe businesses with large outdoor spaces could make something work. I’ll keep doing contact free carry out or delivery.

FIFY

Not saying I'm not with you on that, just think it's pertinent clarification.

Numbers just updated for Thursday:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona042320b.jpg

You wouldn't think the hospitalization #s would be affected by the weekend, but if you look at this week (21,22,23) and the same days for the last two weeks (14,15,16) and (7, 8, 9) you see the same pattern, so I'm guessing the weekends are causing that pattern.

It was reported that one of the losses was that of the brother of Senator Elizabeth Warren. He passed in Norman.

Preliminary results from the hardest hit US city with ideal conditions for the spread of the virus. 21% of NYC projection to have received it. More testing results will fine tune this number and add to the confidence level.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-update.html

You wouldn't think the hospitalization #s would be affected by the weekend, but if you look at this week (21,22,23) and the same days for the last two weeks (14,15,16) and (7, 8, 9) you see the same pattern, so I'm guessing the weekends are causing that pattern.

Maybe people are going out and about on Saturday and Sunday. Shopping at stores or having family over then they start to show symptoms in the day 5-7 range. Thursday-Sunday and then day 10-12 when they are start getting worse they head for the Hospital? Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Just a thought.