As I've said, you have people actively searching for anything to justify what is mainly a misguided political reason not to get the vaccination.

This short thread from the town manager of Provincetown, MA really sums up the state of play right now, IMO: https://twitter.com/AlexBMorse/status/1421139894257266691

I just checked World Meter. I am not sure how accurate of a count of cases this is but todays total with 3 states not reporting is 99,206. I kind of figured by the weekend the US would be around 100K cases, my guess is if the 3 states are added then the number would be 100 K or real close. This is not not at all going good.

Even Fox News is in the midst of an about-face on the subject. I am afraid it is too little, too late for many of their viewers who have bought into the lies and purposeful misinformation of their hosts and guests.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7jdkVlXIAQyKU6?format=jpg&name=large

^

Anything helps at this point.

I'm not willing to just hope this is going to burn out, especially will school starting and heading into the cooler months.

We are well beyond where we were at the same time last year, and December and January were our worst months.

One of my clients lost his 58 year old brother in law to Covid last week. He had been fully vaccinated with Moderna but had inherent kidney problems.

https://www.thelostogle.com/2021/07/30/healthcare-workers-rally-at-edmond-church-to-oppose-employer-vaccine-mandates/

If anyone has Twitter this thread is pretty sad but eye opening from a frontline nurse that first started during the middle of the pandemic:

https://twitter.com/kathryniveyy/status/1421815468436992003?s=21

If anyone has Twitter this thread is pretty sad but eye opening from a frontline nurse that first started during the middle of the pandemic:

https://twitter.com/kathryniveyy/status/1421815468436992003?s=21

I feel for those in the medical profession who are bearing the burden brought on them by the unvaccinated.

https://www.thelostogle.com/2021/07/30/healthcare-workers-rally-at-edmond-church-to-oppose-employer-vaccine-mandates/

It will be interesting to see how much longer that church can continue to hold meetings with nobody wearing masks. If you fear taking a vaccine against covid because of what may happen to you, then at least be smart enough to wear masks indoors where there are lots of people.

It will be interesting to see how much longer that church can continue to hold meetings with nobody wearing masks. If you fear taking a vaccine against covid because of what may happen to you, then at least be smart enough to wear masks indoors where there are lots of people.

in edmond .. forever is the answer ..

Wow, you sound like a pretty terrible person.

We're 18 months into a global pandemic, there's a limit to how much sympathy one has for people who refuse any and all measures to fight it.

Wow, you sound like a pretty terrible person.

What did he say that is controversial?

That Edmond church event looks like a superspreader on steroids.

It will be interesting to see how much longer that church can continue to hold meetings with nobody wearing masks. If you fear taking a vaccine against covid because of what may happen to you, then at least be smart enough to wear masks indoors where there are lots of people.

Considering which church it is, I expect they've been holding maskless meetings for the past 18 months.

I was really surprised yesterday at our local Neighborhood Walmart. Where virtually no masks have been seen in over a month I would estimate 60 to 70 percent were masked up.

5,597 new cases reported for the 3-day period. Last several Mondays: 3,669; 2,126; 1,211; 1,041; 580; 451.

7-day average now 1,627.

Hospitalizations are 739 (+49).

ICU is 216 (+1).

Amazed at this misinformation being spread!

People believe the vaccinated are at higher risk of dying than the unvaccinated. This society is falling apart. Look at these replies to this tweet:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1421199340308242437?s=21

“ We said this would happen but nobody listened, now the vaccinated are going to die and cause the unvaxxed to die as well”

“ i think the unvaxxed will probably be doing better but time will tell tbh”

“ Vaccine compromises immune system most likely. Unvaccinated should be safer. Depending on age and health though.”

“ yep its the vaxed who are vulnerable as had innate immune system blunted and messed with”

The lunacy is astounding. Unfortunately I came across this post because my brother re-tweeted it (anti-vaxer)

The canaries in the coal mine are the initial test subjects for the covid vaccines starting out from over a year ago. I haven't heard of them dropping dead.

5,597 new cases reported for the 3-day period. Last several Mondays: 3,669; 2,126; 1,211; 1,041; 580; 451.

7-day average now 1,627.

Hospitalizations are 739 (+49).

ICU is 216 (+1).

Our positivity rating is still hovering around 20%. The real numbers are way higher than this. Stay safe ya'll

Heard a bit of story the other day how there are multitudes of Chinese students coming over to the US to study, being exposed to the circus of our political theater (both pre but especially post pandemic) and returning home after graduation with the notion that democracy and capitalism just are not worth it and that the trade off with what they have to deal with in China is better.

Pretty crazy that the "greatest country in the world" is operating in such a way that the rest of the world is like "DO NOT WANT".

Nah they don't need to come here to see that democracy isn't worth it. In China they call it democrazy because it's chaos. They use Korea as an example because every few years they have a president that ends up jail or they use something like Taiwan legislature fighting. So trust me on this they already know what to believe and were told it by everyone around them. The same way that they don't believe they're capitalist they say China is communist even though if you walk into any high school, college or factory dormitory everyone aspires to be rich and be a boss. The same if you talk to random people in an industrial park who wanna sell you things you can literally buy 10,000 of whatever item you want and you turn around and there are people waiting to give you multiple options for shipping.

I honestly wouldn't believe the hype of most of random news story's like that they don't need to come here and see what's happened the past year and half to know democracy is bad for them. They have douyin videos, weibo story's and wechat articles already telling them that. Some things are completely untrue and other things are true. But the truth they wont find in those articles and stuff they learn in school are the things about China that completely suck and are unfair.

Even the fact the rich Chinese can afford to send their kids to study in the west a testament to their capitalist system. It's also a testament to the fact they just don't have enough good universities they are few and far between and insanely difficult to get into. Most Universities wouldn't even be on the level of OCCC because of the fact that it's impossible to fail. They don't want the system here because they've told their entire lives the communist party is whats best for china but maybe thats actually true.

*I can't wait to return to our authoritarian government that is currently running genocidal "re-education" centers for Uighur Muslims, destroying democracy and persecuting pro-democracy citizens in Hong Kong, and literally has a dystopian social credit score system that requires citizens to say positive things about the government* nah nah nah

The U.S. democratic system has deep inequities and is unstable currently, but China is a worst case scenario for what the U.S. could become.

People in US who refuse to get vaccinated by September 1st will be given negative social credit scores.

People with negative social credit scores will be unable to enter public buildings and employers premises.

Thems the rules!

Just went to my doctor for a check up.

He said that currently vaccinated people that get sick with delta have like 3-4 days of sniffles and coughs. Some are showing stomach symptoms.

Unvaccinated people who get sick with the delta variant: sore throat, then coughing, then ventilator.

People in US who refuse to get vaccinated by September 1st will be given negative social credit scores.

People with negative social credit scores will be unable to enter public buildings and employers premises.

Thems the rules!

We're having a global pandemic, you may have heard about it on the news. It'd be nice if people could cooperate on ending it.

McDonald's makes masks mandatory for all customers, staff.

Last week, major companies including Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google, Uber Technologies Inc (UBER.N) and Facebook Inc (FB.O) said all their U.S. employees must get vaccinated to step into offices.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mcdonalds-makes-masks-mandatory-all-customers-staff-2021-08-02/

McDonald's makes masks mandatory for all customers, staff.

Last week, major companies including Alphabet Inc's (GOOGL.O) Google, Uber Technologies Inc (UBER.N) and Facebook Inc (FB.O) said all their U.S. employees must get vaccinated to step into offices.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mcdonalds-makes-masks-mandatory-all-customers-staff-2021-08-02/

Ba da ba ba bah... I'm loving it!

I like this trend and I hope it continues. In fact, I hope every company, airline, event center, etc, starts refusing access to unvaccinated customers too. It's coming eventually, I hope.

What did he say that is controversial?



Nevermind, I take it back

Ba da ba ba bah... I'm loving it!

I like this trend and I hope it continues. In fact, I hope every company, airline, event center, etc, starts refusing access to unvaccinated customers too. It's coming eventually, I hope.

i would be that most Red states would and will make that practice illegal ..

i would be that most Red states would and will make that practice illegal ..

Killing off their own base... no wonder they're restricting voting access for everyone else...

i would be that most Red states would and will make that practice illegal ..

Maybe... although currently only a few states included businesses in their bans (most are limited to government agencies and publicly funded orgs). I'm not even sure that a ban on a business requirement would hold up. Even then, I think the public has shifted enough that there might not be the political will to push new bans in states that don't currently have one (such as Oklahoma). 6 months ago, you'd be 100% correct, but now? Not so sure.

Maybe... although currently only a few states included businesses in their bans (most are limited to government agencies and publicly funded orgs). I'm not even sure that a ban on a business requirement would hold up. Even then, I think the public has shifted enough that there might not be the political will to push new bans in states that don't currently have one (such as Oklahoma). 6 months ago, you'd be 100% correct, but now? Not so sure.

it will be interesting to follow ...

Ba da ba ba bah... I'm loving it!

I like this trend and I hope it continues. In fact, I hope every company, airline, event center, etc, starts refusing access to unvaccinated customers too. It's coming eventually, I hope.

Is there an easy way to identify if a person is vax or unvax from a distance?

Is there an easy way to identify if a person is vax or unvax from a distance?

I'm fine with places/venues requesting to see my vaccine card. I have it laminated and ready to go, and I also keep a digital copy on my phone. I'm going to a convention later this month that is checking cards and putting vax status on badges so it will be visible (cue the panic!). I've heard of some venues doing wrist bands. I'd rather they just require the vax altogether though.

946 new cases today; last several Tuesdays: 733; 465; 177; 85.

7-day rolling average now 1,657.

Hospitalizations are 841 (+102).

ICU is 246 (+30).

People getting vaccinated is up. https://twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1422651860763222024?s=20 Now would be a good time to really have a hard push and make it as easy as possible. Walmart parking lots, mobile busses anything.

Whatever happened to the drive thru Covid vaccination center that the county was building?

946 new cases today; last several Tuesdays: 733; 465; 177; 85.

7-day rolling average now 1,657.

Hospitalizations are 841 (+102).

ICU is 246 (+30).

Anecdotal report, but a friend of mine who's a nurse is saying there are no more ICU beds available across the entire state as of yesterday. Concerning, if true.

Anecdotal report, but a friend of mine who's a nurse is saying there are no more ICU beds available across the entire state as of yesterday. Concerning, if true.

My fiance said the hospital she works at took in a patient from Kansas City yesterday because they had no rooms left there and then this morning she told me they had to send a patient in Idabel to Colorado and had 3 more waiting in Idabel on ventilators with no place to go.

i was eating lunch with my dad and brother a little over three weeks ago and the virus came up in our conversation. i mentioned that i was generally less sympathetic to the people who are getting sick now since they are mostly those who chose to remain unvaccinated... as soon as i noticed a slight change in my brother's expression, i realized that he was among those who were refusing to be vaccinated. his stance was that the vaccine had not been adequately tested and that he would rather take his chances with the 'unlikely' event that he would catch the virus than risk any potential side effects... even though the number of people experiencing adverse events is extremely low against the millions who have been vaccinated. he started experiencing symptoms late last week, received a treatment yesterday, and went into the emergency room today. i imagine that he feels quite differently about his choice now. i tragically lost my oldest brother in 2019 due to medical circumstances that were entirely preventable and now i'm pretty concerned that i'm going to lose my only other sibling in the same way.

i was eating lunch with my dad and brother a little over three weeks ago and the virus came up in our conversation. i mentioned that i was generally less sympathetic to the people who are getting sick now since they are mostly those who chose to remain unvaccinated... as soon as i noticed a slight change in my brother's expression, i realized that he was among those who were refusing to be vaccinated. his stance was that the vaccine had not been adequately tested and that he would rather take his chances with the 'unlikely' event that he would catch the virus than risk any potential side effects... even though the number of people experiencing adverse events is extremely low against the millions who have been vaccinated. he started experiencing symptoms late last week, received a treatment yesterday, and went into the emergency room today. i imagine that he feels quite differently about his choice now. i tragically lost my oldest brother in 2019 due to medical circumstances that were entirely preventable and now i'm pretty concerned that i'm going to lose my only other sibling in the same way.

Sorry for your brother. I have relatives exactly like that. They've swallowed the Koolade and now I worry for them. I have a very close friend right now that was the same way as a denier and now is fighting for their life waiting on an ECMO machine but they are taken and there is now a waiting list. I hope he can last long enough to have a chance.

Unfortunately I have lost several family and friends to covid.

i was eating lunch with my dad and brother a little over three weeks ago and the virus came up in our conversation. i mentioned that i was generally less sympathetic to the people who are getting sick now since they are mostly those who chose to remain unvaccinated... as soon as i noticed a slight change in my brother's expression, i realized that he was among those who were refusing to be vaccinated. his stance was that the vaccine had not been adequately tested and that he would rather take his chances with the 'unlikely' event that he would catch the virus than risk any potential side effects... even though the number of people experiencing adverse events is extremely low against the millions who have been vaccinated. he started experiencing symptoms late last week, received a treatment yesterday, and went into the emergency room today. i imagine that he feels quite differently about his choice now. i tragically lost my oldest brother in 2019 due to medical circumstances that were entirely preventable and now i'm pretty concerned that i'm going to lose my only other sibling in the same way.

This is terrible news. I'm very sorry about your brother.

I learned from a friend today that his unvaccinated brother and father both have contracted Covid 19. They were against the vaccine for moral / Trumpy reasons. Overall I have next to no compassion for people who are not getting vaccinated and getting ill, but it sucks when it's your own family.

I cannot imagine how frustrating this must be to deal with in your own family.

2,160 new cases today.

7-day average now 1,755.

Hospitalizations are 880 (+39).

ICU is 259 (+13).

2,160 new cases today.

7-day average now 1,755.

Hospitalizations are 880 (+39).

ICU is 259 (+13).

Of those 880 how many are unvaccinated? I heard it was 90% which would only put it at 88 vaccinated?

Of those 880 how many are unvaccinated? I heard it was 90% which would only put it at 88 vaccinated?

curious to know how many ( if any) in the ICU are vaccinated as well

Of those 880 how many are unvaccinated? I heard it was 90% which would only put it at 88 vaccinated?

I think nationally the number is 93% of all cases now are unvaccinated, with 99.5% of hospital cases unvaccinated.

My fiance said the hospital she works at took in a patient from Kansas City yesterday because they had no rooms left there and then this morning she told me they had to send a patient in Idabel to Colorado and had 3 more waiting in Idabel on ventilators with no place to go.

Stillwater hospital was full as of Wednesday morning according to its FB page. At least nobody was waiting in ER for a bed. The hospital could hold at least 7 more patients if he had the staffing. Another good reason to get vaccinated is that hospitals may be too busy to serve you.

I learned from a friend today that his unvaccinated brother and father both have contracted Covid 19. They were against the vaccine for moral / Trumpy reasons. Overall I have next to no compassion for people who are not getting vaccinated and getting ill, but it sucks when it's your own family.

I have that same feeling about it.

The reality is, though, that many of these people are victims of misinformation and cult like politics.

The term "drinking the kool aid" is often used in a derogatory way, but those who actually drank the kool aid were victims.

I have that same feeling about it.

The reality is, though, that many of these people are victims of misinformation and cult like politics.

The term "drinking the kool aid" is often used in a derogatory way, but those who actually drank the kool aid were victims.

+1. And most of the cult leaders are (a) gorgeous and (b) charismatic as all get out.

Heck, I went out and bought several pairs of Ray Ban Aviators after watching Waco. The guy who played Koresh (John Riggins) made them look cool as hell!

I have a co worker that is 39 healthy Democratic and won't get the vaccine. Doesn't believe in it and has nothing to do with Trump. He just doesn't want to put it into his body. He watches what he eats and puts into his body very closely.

I have a co worker that is 39 healthy Democratic and won't get the vaccine. Doesn't believe in it and has nothing to do with Trump. He just doesn't want to put it into his body. He watches what he eats and puts into his body very closely.


Wellness person?

I have a co worker that is 39 healthy Democratic and won't get the vaccine. Doesn't believe in it and has nothing to do with Trump. He just doesn't want to put it into his body. He watches what he eats and puts into his body very closely.

Does he get vaccines for tetanus, shingles, flu, etc.? Has he had his measles, mumps, etc. vaccines?

The anti-vax movement has long consisted of people with both and right and left politics. However, those movements have found stronger political alliances with certain right wing groups and politicians. But, there are certainly anti-vaxxers who lean left that, as Thomas pointed out, are often in wellness communities. As anti-vaxxers are increasingly maligned on the left I suspect some have shifted their overall politics to the right.

Does he get vaccines for tetanus, shingles, flu, etc.? Has he had his measles, mumps, etc. vaccines?

Kind of not really my place to ask.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/31958173/bryson-dechambeau-returns-being-covid-positive-regret-not-getting-vaccinated

Key statement: "I'm young enough, I'd rather give it [the vaccine] to people who need it. I don't need it. I'm a healthy, young individual that will continue to work on my health.

Also: https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/status/1423031421275414529?s=20

It's the 18-50 year olds that are really getting it. https://twitter.com/beth72/status/1423032530182320132?s=20

Kind of not really my place to ask.

So it's fine to talk about the COVID vaccine with him and why he's not getting it, but not to go further and find out if he's gotten other vaccines, and if he got those, then why isn't he getting this one, etc.? OK......

I have a family member having surgery at Baptist and they came in and told us that, starting tomorrow, there will be a new COVID protocol where only one person will be allowed in the room with the patient in the ICU at a time.

So it's fine to talk about the COVID vaccine with him and why he's not getting it, but not to go further and find out if he's gotten other vaccines, and if he got those, then why isn't he getting this one, etc.? OK......

Our employee might be requiring it and it wasn't like a big long conversation plus I have worked with him for over 10 years so OK sorry it was mentioned in a 35 second conversation. Would you like me to ask him who he sleeps with also would that make you happy. No of my business. It was just a I'm not vaccinated and don't want to get it but if work makes me I guess I will. end of conversation

In my opinion, no company should require employees to get covid vaccinations until it's fully approved by the FDA.

I'll admit though, with all the crazy stuff against taking the covid vaccines going on the Internet, I would probably be too afraid to get one if I was under age 40 or 50. But like I said before, if younger, I would, no doubt, feel myself frustratingly lodged between a rock and hard place. It's also like back when I got the covid vaccine during both times I asked myself if these vaccines are so safe, why do I have to wait 15 minutes before leaving? I didn't have to do that for the flu vaccine. Anyway, I sure hope next summer is a lot better and things are ever more back to normal.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/us/virus-unvaccinated-americans.html

In my opinion, no company should require employees to get covid vaccinations until it's fully approved by the FDA.

I'll admit though, with all the crazy stuff against taking the covid vaccines going on the Internet, I would probably be too afraid to get one if I was under age 40 or 50. But like I said before, if younger, I would, no doubt, feel myself frustratingly lodged between a rock and hard place. It's also like back when I got the covid vaccine during both times I asked myself if these vaccines are so safe, why do I have to wait 15 minutes before leaving? I didn't have to do that for the flu vaccine. Anyway, I sure hope next summer is a lot better and things are ever more back to normal.

Waiting 15 minutes is the standard recommendation for every vaccination including the flu shot. It has nothing to do with the covid vaccine specifically. I got a TDAP vaccine in March and it was the exact same recommendation.

^^ I got the phenomena vaccine a few weeks ago. 15 minute wait before I left the doctors office. SOP.