It would be nice if we stay in the double digital not the triple and soon drop to single digit number of daily cases.

143 new cases today (last 3 Wednesdays: 252, 249, 238); 7-day rolling average 182.

6 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 6.0.

Hospitalizations are 152 (-9).

ICU is 45 (-8).

Is there a place to see the hospitalizations and icu numbers per region or has that been done away with? I looked on the Ok Dept Health website and did not see any numbers beyond May 4th.

Is there a place to see the hospitalizations and icu numbers per region or has that been done away with? I looked on the Ok Dept Health website and did not see any numbers beyond May 4th.

Go to the COVID pages then news you’ll find the daily situation reports. The hospital info is on those reports daily

153 new cases today (last 3 Thursdays: 148, 289, 283); 7-day rolling average 183.

11 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 4.7.

Hospitalizations are 139 (-13).

ICU is 38 (-7).

153 new cases today (last 3 Thursdays: 148, 289, 283); 7-day rolling average 183.

11 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 4.7.

Hospitalizations are 139 (-13).

ICU is 38 (-7).

It’s nice to see everything falling again after hovering in the 300 range for the month of April it felt like

Also hospitalizations seem to be having some sustained lower levels. Will be great to get that number under 100 in the coming weeks hopefully.

This will effectively repeal most mask mandates across the country. Everyone will claim to be "vaccinated"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/13/health/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated/index.html

This will effectively repeal most mask mandates across the country. Everyone will claim to be "vaccinated"

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/13/health/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated/index.html

The ones who would lie about being vaccinated most likely aren’t wearing their mask anyway. So don’t see much of a difference

The ones who would lie about being vaccinated most likely aren’t wearing their mask anyway. So don’t see much of a difference

I guess we will see. 64 percent of Americans are currently unvaccinated. Its easier to lie, when the rest of the crowd are lying too(or not lying in the case of the vaccinated).

I guess we will see. 64 percent of Americans are currently unvaccinated. Its easier to lie, when the rest of the crowd are lying too(or not lying in the case of the vaccinated).

That number is high and out of date. More than half of adult Americans have had at least one shot, which is strongly protective. Obviously two shots are better, but between people who have already been infected in the last year or so plus folks with at least a one shot, we're probably sitting at around 60-65% of American adults with at least a modicum of protection.

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Right but adults aren't the only ones that can transmit the disease.

When you factor in those under 18, there are still a ton of people who haven't had any vaccination at all.

Sure, but for kids, especially those under 12 and unable to get vaccinated, Covid really *is* just like the flu, if not less harmful for even younger folks. Also, if their parents are vaccinated/protected, they're a lot less likely to get it.

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All true but kids can still transmit to others, which is the point of herd immunity and percentage of population numbers.

I expect we are going to see a significant resurgence of the disease this fall and winter, although it won't reach the previous high levels we have seen.

Sure, but for kids, especially those under 12 and unable to get vaccinated, Covid really *is* just like the flu, if not less harmful for even younger folks. Also, if their parents are vaccinated/protected, they're a lot less likely to get it.

Yeah, today CDC basically went on the record saying they feel good about vaccines in preventing both spread and providing protection.

This specific Israel study was cited.


The Israeli study, which was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, showed the vaccine was 97% effective against symptomatic Covid-19 and 86% effective against asymptomatic infection in over 5,000 health care workers.

Yeah, today CDC basically went on the record saying they feel good about vaccines in preventing both spread and providing protection.

But kids aren't getting vaccinated and can still transmit, so they should be counted in any vaccination percentage as it pertains to herd immunity.

Here is one of my concerns, the CDC is saying that in some situations fully vaccinated individuals do not need to wear a mask. I am thinking, many non vaccinated people will go , oh well now I dont have to wear one so off goes my mask. Those of us who cannot get vaccinated will have no way to tell if someone is vaccinated and not wearing a mask or if that person without a mask is using this as an excuse. What are we to do? I guess I will be wearing KN95s from now on when out.

From my experience, a good percentage of people have already stopped wearing masks, even where mandated.

I was in Penn Square yesterday with clearly posted "facecovering required" signs at all the entrances, but I'd say only about half the people had both their nose and mouth properly covered.

I'm noticing more of the same at most other places.

And I suspect the non-maskers are also the same group that won't get the virus.


I feel for the people who can't (rather than just would rather not) get the vaccine. I don't think the vaccination rate in Oklahoma is going up much higher than it is now.

Here is one of my concerns, the CDC is saying that in some situations fully vaccinated individuals do not need to wear a mask. I am thinking, many non vaccinated people will go , oh well now I dont have to wear one so off goes my mask. Those of us who cannot get vaccinated will have no way to tell if someone is vaccinated and not wearing a mask or if that person without a mask is using this as an excuse. What are we to do? I guess I will be wearing KN95s from now on when out.
They will infect each other, not you. That was the point of the CDC announcement yesterday. You can’t keep people from infecting and killing the rest of their paranoid herd. This is probably why societies evolve... the weak (physically and mentally) tend to die off.

This will effectively repeal most mask mandates across the country.

Maybe not:

An anti-vax conspiracy theory is apparently making anti-maskers consider masking up, social distancing (https://news.yahoo.com/anti-vax-conspiracy-theory-apparently-071507094.html)

LOL!

Hand up: once I hit that two week mark following my second vaccine, I stopped even carrying a mask.

151 new cases today (last 3 Fridays: 234, 374, 304); 7-day rolling average continues to drop at 171 and is the lowest since 6/14/20.

7 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 4.9.

Hospitalizations are 130 (-9).

ICU is 36 (-2).

They will infect each other, not you. That was the point of the CDC announcement yesterday. You can’t keep people from infecting and killing the rest of their paranoid herd. This is probably why societies evolve... the weak (physically and mentally) tend to die off.

I'd be all on board the pro-Darwinism train if there weren't folks out there unable to get the vaccine for legit medical reasons.

I'd be all on board the pro-Darwinism train if there weren't folks out there unable to get the vaccine for legit medical reasons.

Which is exactly why the entire anti-vax movement is so selfish and dangerous.

Hand up: once I hit that two week mark following my second vaccine, I stopped even carrying a mask.

Did you stop going to stores that require mask, or are you ignoring their rules?

Did you stop going to stores that require mask, or are you ignoring their rules?

this is not a pro or anti mask comment ...


very very few restaurants or stores enforce their mask signs even if they have them posted ...

costco is one that absolutely does ..

Which is exactly why the entire anti-vax movement is so selfish and dangerous.

BINGO! The ignorance of the anti-vaccine movement bothers me greatly, but the unadulterated selfishness and disregard for their vulnerable brothers and sisters in the community is what makes me most angry.

They are entirely fine with, and complicit in, endangering a child undergoing cancer treatment or one of our elders who has an immune disorder and many others who have real medical reasons that make them more vulnerable or unable to get vaccinations. It's truly pathetic.

this is not a pro or anti mask comment ...


very very few restaurants or stores enforce their mask signs even if they have them posted ...

costco is one that absolutely does ..

If there is a sign saying it’s required it shouldn’t matter if staff is enforcing it. The sign is the enforcement, staff shouldn’t have to risk verbal abuse talking to people who already ignore the sign to begin with.

Thank you, I agree completely. Well said.

If there is a sign saying it’s required it shouldn’t matter if staff is enforcing it. The sign is the enforcement, staff shouldn’t have to risk verbal abuse talking to people who already ignore the sign to begin with.

i agree with you ...

This is probably why societies evolve... the weak (physically and mentally) tend to die off.

And we have our eugenics quote of the day! WTF. Didn’t expect to see someone propping up pseudoscientific Social Darwinism when I logged into OKCTalk. There’s probably some Nazi boards that would be more into this kind of thing. And, to be clear, this is a complete distortion of evolutionary theory.

If there is a sign saying it’s required it shouldn’t matter if staff is enforcing it. The sign is the enforcement, staff shouldn’t have to risk verbal abuse talking to people who already ignore the sign to begin with.

I stopped acknowledging signs that "enforce" the masks when staff members don't even wear them anymore. Explain to me like I am a three year old how I am doing any harm by not wearing a mask when I am vaccinated, if according to reports those that are vaccinated are unlikely to spread the virus?

At some point it must be acknowledged that those that aren't vaccinated aren't going to be anytime soon, either by way of choice or medical conditions. Oklahomans have had ample opportunities to get the vaccine (March 16, 2021 several tribes opened up appointments to all).

I stopped acknowledging signs that "enforce" the masks when staff members don't even wear them anymore. Explain to me like I am a three year old how I am doing any harm by not wearing a mask when I am vaccinated, if according to reports those that are vaccinated are unlikely to spread the virus?

At some point it must be acknowledged that those that aren't vaccinated aren't going to be anytime soon, either by way of choice or medical conditions. Oklahomans have had ample opportunities to get the vaccine (March 16, 2021 several tribes opened up appointments to all).

A lot of people are still transitioning back into the world and you’re causing them a lot of anxiety. For immunocompromised folks who can’t get vaccinated it’s likely even worse. Carrying a mask and wearing it indoors is a social cue and way of caring about others.

I stopped acknowledging signs that "enforce" the masks when staff members don't even wear them anymore. Explain to me like I am a three year old how I am doing any harm by not wearing a mask when I am vaccinated, if according to reports those that are vaccinated are unlikely to spread the virus?

Because the owners of the private property have a requirement for entering the privately owned business, same as the always existing "no shoes, no shirt, no service" rule. Nobody has to explain stuff to you, nobody has to remind you, nobody has to explain or justify what staff does or even what other customers do, if you are able to read "mask required" on a sign and you ignore it, it tells everybody around you exactly what kind of person you are.

It's like the "shopping cart" test: you can tell a lot about an individual (and even a society) by watching if they return a shopping cart. And you can tell a lot about an individual by watching if they follow the "mask required" sign.

You guys see that we now have an India variant cluster in Cleveland co?

Good to know that we’re still allowing free movement of people from India into the states...

Walmart, Sams, Costco and Trader Joe’s have now announced no masks required in their stores for vaccinated customers.

I expect many more store to follow suit given recent CDC guidelines.

I’ve been vaccinated and will go mask free in places that allow it. I’ll most likely mask up if I’m going anywhere with the kiddos until they can be vaccinated as well. Just to model and support them.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html 223 deaths out of 115 million people vaccinated. I wonder the age group on that.

You guys see that we now have an India variant cluster in Cleveland co?

Good to know that we’re still allowing free movement of people from India into the states...

Scary stuff for the unvaccinated, but preliminary evidence suggests the U.S. approved vaccines are holding up against all the variants thus far.

Stillwater has ended its required mask ordinance early as of Friday at 3pm. It was going to end May 25.

I'm learning what can happen after Covid can no longer be detected can be worse than Covid. My brother is now suffering complete paralysis that the Dr's feel is a lingering symptom since spine MRIs are negative. Anyone not getting vaccinated is a complete and totally selfish, stupid idiot. Blunt enough?

My brother is now suffering complete paralysis that the Dr's feel is a lingering symptom since spine MRIs are negative. Anyone not getting vaccinated is a complete and totally selfish, stupid idiot. Blunt enough?

Appropriately so.

Pulling for you brother and your family.

What about those of use who have health issues that the vaccine or a component of the vaccine could make our existing medical conditions worst? In my case this is something confirmed by my specialist.

I was told to continue to social distance wear a kn95 and avoid crowds or other high risk situations. Better to stay home rather then risking severe medical issues from the vaccine. Mine is a very very rare situation. Sure for those who can safely receive the vaccine then yes it is a better choice.

What about those of use who have health issues that the vaccine or a component of the vaccine could make our existing medical conditions worst? In my case this is something confirmed by my specialist.
Its become clear its every man/woman for his/her self

I was told to continue to social distance wear a kn95 and avoid crowds or other high risk situations. Better to stay home rather then risking severe medical issues from the vaccine. Mine is a very very rare situation. Sure for those who can safely receive the vaccine then yes it is a better choice.

I am not aware of any condition like you describe but if there is something then, l am sorry, but stay home as you say. My brother is a severe diabetic with several other comorbidities and only failed to get vaccinated because of the severe snowstorm in OKC. The one week delay may cost him any enjoyment of movement and his life.

Anyone who is just refusing to get the vaccination or wear a mask because Trump said so or is just a selfish, stupid, ignorant person should just stay home and not come out. Period.

You guys see that we now have an India variant cluster in Cleveland co?

Good to know that we’re still allowing free movement of people from India into the states...

Travel bans don't work to stop the spread of disease, look it up.

I am not aware of any condition like you describe but if there is something then, l am sorry, but stay home as you say. My brother is a severe diabetic with several other comorbidities and only failed to get vaccinated because of the severe snowstorm in OKC. The one week delay may cost him any enjoyment of movement and his life.

Anyone who is just refusing to get the vaccination or wear a mask because Trump said so or is just a selfish, stupid, ignorant person should just stay home and not come out. Period. There are people with allergies to other ingredients in the vaccine. There are people who are under going some treatments with very weak immunion systems. Then there are people like me who have and still are dealing with neurological issues from a common type of shot. Basically I went through 6 to 9 months of living hell. Nothing to realieve it and no sleep to get away from it. Due to this i have to be very careful of new meds and esp of shots. There is alot more to this them this simple answer. Mine is an extremely rare situation and yes Ive been to Mayo. Without all the long details, let us just say I am following specialists advise on this. Understand this group of people is likely by my guess less then 0.01% of the population or less. If the goal is to get 70.80 or even 90% of the population vaccinated, we are just a tiny group that should be statistically not a factor as far as the overall goal of getting everyone vaccinated. WE are just a tiny part of the whole. Its just not possible to get 100% of the people vaccinated.

Yes, there are a very small component of the population who may not be able to get the vaccine for medical reasons. This is the very reason everyone else who can get vaccinated really should. We have an opportunity to protect those who are vulnerable. To me, getting the vaccine was more of a communal decision than an individual one. I couldn't live with myself if I unknowingly spread it to someone else and caused them harm.

Yes, there are a very small component of the population who may not be able to get the vaccine for medical reasons. This is the very reason everyone else who can get vaccinated really should. We have an opportunity to protect those who are vulnerable. To me, getting the vaccine was more of a communal decision than an individual one. I couldn't live with myself if I unknowingly spread it to someone else and caused them harm.

This, at minimum, is how (l'll put it this way due to oklip's situation) is why virtually everyone should be vaccinated. It's not just protecting yourself from the disease but others who you might literally kill.

Mug of beer. Like and thank you.:)

What about those of use who have health issues that the vaccine or a component of the vaccine could make our existing medical conditions worst? In my case this is something confirmed by my specialist.

An old friend of ours knew she'd have a bad reaction as she's extremely allergic to one of the components of the vaccine. She's in the medical field, so she had to do it. They gave her the vaccine, it kicked her ass, but she's fine now. COVID would have likely been a death sentence. And if you have those pre-existing conditions, your ride with COVID is likely to be much worse than the vaccine.

What about those of use who have health issues that the vaccine or a component of the vaccine could make our existing medical conditions worst? In my case this is something confirmed by my specialist.

This is from the CDC's website on people who have autoimmune conditions and the reason I have not received the vaccine. It is unknown how the vaccine will affect those with autoimmune conditions.

"People with autoimmune conditions may receive a COVID-19 vaccine. However, they should be aware that no data are currently available on the safety of COVID-19 vaccines for people with autoimmune conditions."

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/underlying-conditions.html

An old friend of ours knew she'd have a bad reaction as she's extremely allergic to one of the components of the vaccine. She's in the medical field, so she had to do it. They gave her the vaccine, it kicked her ass, but she's fine now. COVID would have likely been a death sentence. And if you have those pre-existing conditions, your ride with COVID is likely to be much worse than the vaccine. Some times the side effects of something is a living hell. I went through 6 to 9 months of living hell that at the time no doctor, ER or meds had any effect. This is no way that I would want to go through this again. Its so bad that I would not want not wish it on a terrorist or anyone else. Without going into the details it was shear hell. Its a very very rare condition per Mayo clinic. It took me that long for the condition to some what get tolerable and for me to find a local doctor that had any knowledge to be able to treat it. It s not something that one can just take some meds and feel better. The meds after a short time quit working. Lets just say in my case it is better to wear a mask, social distance and stay away from crowds or high risk settings.

431 new cases for the 3-day total (last 3 Mondays: 667, 567, 728); 7-day rolling average 138 then lowest since 6/12/20

18 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 6.1.

Hospitalizations are 111 (-19).

ICU is 39 (-7).

At the rate the cases are falling, I believe we are going to see a small percentage of children (12 and under) getting the vaccine. 15% or lower I would expect. I know I would have to see a lot more data come out that would convince me to have my children get it.

At the rate the cases are falling, I believe we are going to see a small percentage of children (12 and under) getting the vaccine. 15% or lower I would expect. I know I would have to see a lot more data come out that would convince me to have my children get it.

I'll take the over on that. I suspect the ~25% of folks that were enthusiastic about getting the shot themselves will be likewise enthusiastic for their children. The ~25/30% that were lukewarm about it but got the shot anyway (such as yourself?), maybe out of that population only 15% will get one for their kids. But out of the first group it will be nearly 100% which alone will get you above 15% for the entire eligible population.

At the rate the cases are falling, I believe we are going to see a small percentage of children (12 and under) getting the vaccine. 15% or lower I would expect. I know I would have to see a lot more data come out that would convince me to have my children get it.

Can you explain a bit more? All evidence suggests the vaccine is not only safe for children 12-15 and protects them against COVID (a much bigger risk than the vaccine), but it also prevents children from spreading COVID to others in their lives. Can you imagine a child living with knowing/thinking they spread COVID to someone who became sick or died? What risks am I missing that would cause parents to be hesitant?

Some times the side effects of something is a living hell. I went through 6 to 9 months of living hell that at the time no doctor, ER or meds had any effect. This is no way that I would want to go through this again. Its so bad that I would not want not wish it on a terrorist or anyone else. Without going into the details it was shear hell. Its a very very rare condition per Mayo clinic. It took me that long for the condition to some what get tolerable and for me to find a local doctor that had any knowledge to be able to treat it. It s not something that one can just take some meds and feel better. The meds after a short time quit working. Lets just say in my case it is better to wear a mask, social distance and stay away from crowds or high risk settings.

Sounds like you're one of the folks that could be affected because some selfish, perfectly healthy people choose to remain unvaccinated despite the extremely low chance of side effects. One of those people might pass the virus to you, and considering that history, you're likely in for a rough ride.

Only 71 new cases today (last 3 Tuesdays: 85, 142, 115); 7-day rolling average 136.

1 additional reported death; 7-day rolling average 6.1.

Hospitalizations are 118 (+7).

ICU is unchanged at 29.

My two weeks are finally up, fully vaccinated :cool: