Only 120 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 310.

5 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 17.1.

Hospitalizations are 225 (+26).

ICU is unchanged at 56.

Only 120 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 310.

5 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 17.1.

Hospitalizations are 225 (+26).

ICU is unchanged at 56.

Big spike at hospitals for us to not have had many cases lately!

They said we are going to see very high numbers tomorrow as they switch to the new system. I guess one place hasn’t reported cases in a long time. Something like 1300 coming in tomorrow from as far back as last year.

So trend lines will be all screwed up yet again.

Big spike at hospitals for us to not have had many cases lately!

Rule of thumb with these data: if you see something that appears unexpected, it's usually due to a data issue or anomaly rather than a true expression of an event. That's why it's important to keep an eye on the 7 or 14 day trend line.

Just read an interesting article posted on fox 25. Apparently, researchers have been testing waste water for signs of covid. In many areas across the world, a rise in covid in waste predates major spikes in covid cases by about a week. The researchers have noticed that covid levels have increased 10 fold in the past week or so which could be hinting at another surge on its way. It’s going to be interesting to see if this comes to fruition.

Just read an interesting article posted on fox 25. Apparently, researchers have been testing waste water for signs of covid. In many areas across the world, a rise in covid in waste predates major spikes in covid cases by about a week. The researchers have noticed that covid levels have increased 10 fold in the past week or so which could be hinting at another surge on its way. It’s going to be interesting to see if this comes to fruition.

Heard about the waste water as a leading indicator. Curious to see if this plays out.

Heard about the waste water as a leading indicator. Curious to see if this plays out.

Me too. I’m also curious how the vaccines could affect this. I mean, we could be vaccinated, get a minor cold, and the cold is covid thus higher covid in the waste. I know when we’re vaccinated, our bodies are programmed to generate the spike protein which the body learns to fight off. I wonder if it’s possible that these waste water tests are picking up on remnants of the spike that our body has fought off as part of building immunity because of the vaccine? It will be interesting.

One of the problem in the states that are surging is people being able to get vaccinated. They may open it to all but, I have friends that are well over 65 you and still cannot get a time to get vaccinated.

I wonder if some of that is related to quirks in the website to sign up, when I initially tried it looked like I was not going to be able to get an appointment anywhere, but with another click or two was able to look at future days and a lot of locations could book a spot the next day.

The simple truth is that if you aren't tech-savvy, knowledgeable about all the various sites that have appointment information, and aren't diligent about constantly checking all of them for availability, this is not an easy process.

And even if you do all those things, you still may have to drive a good distance.


If you are an active user on this site, this all seems second nature but there are a lot of people -- mainly poor and/or older -- who face significant barriers.


BTW, today is 2 weeks since my 2nd vax so I am as protected as I'll ever be. I plan to actually go out this weekend for the first time in a long time.

BTW, today is 2 weeks since my 2nd vax so I am as protected as I'll ever be. I plan to actually go out this weekend for the first time in a long time.

Congrats, Pete! I know this has been a tough year for you due to the isolation so I hope you're able to get back out there!

I got my second shot on Monday morning from the Chickasaw Nation. I had a very mild fever, some aches, and drowsiness, but I was pretty much good about 24 hours afterward. While I know my immunity is already pretty high per recent studies, I am still looking forward to that 2-weeks-after-2nd-shot as a personal milestone soon. It's going to be interesting to see how my social behaviors change because I've really developed a lot of habits toward COVID safety that I think are likely to endure (and are probably still a good idea). For example, I think I will continue to preferring restaurants/coffee shops with outdoor patios. I just can't see myself eating/drinking at indoor places with poor ventilation both out of habit and principle anytime soon even though it's likely safe for me, but we'll see...

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It's funny because even though I am pretty much protected, I too am not anxious to dive right back into going out all the time.

Part of that is wanting a healthier lifestyle, and I've become very used to cooking all my meals.


I do miss my family and friends, so I'll be seeing more of them very soon and that's the biggest thing to me.

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We've also decided to try and stick to a healthier lifestyle. So not going out nearly as much as we did which was 4 or 5 nights a week. Sometimes every night.
It's also been nice to have money since we're not spending all of it at restaurants.

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Part of that is wanting a healthier lifestyle, and I've become very used to cooking all my meals....

We have too, but man, we're so sick of it. Some of that is we're not cooking easy stuff all the time, we do things from Milk Street, Cook's Country, Martha Stewart, which are sometimes worth the PITA they are during the cooking, but not always (the feeling you get when you take 10 minutes to eat a meal that took an hour to prepare and just go "Meh". We only used to go out once or twice a week, but we'll probably be doing more than that come 5/1 just so we don't have to cook as much.

1,764 new cases today (this includes a bunch of cases from months ago); 7-day rolling average 506.

28 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 17.3.

Hospitalizations are 207 (-18).

ICU is unchanged at 56.

1,764 new cases today (this includes a bunch of cases from months ago); 7-day rolling average 506.

28 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 17.3.

Hospitalizations are 207 (-18).

ICU is unchanged at 56.

Looks like our 7 day average is 306 if you take out the 1300 cases that were from the past

Looks like our 7 day average is 306 if you take out the 1300 cases that were from the past

That info may be included elsewhere as I always go off the email blasts.


Was glad to see the hospitalizations go down. Hopefully we won't see an uptick due to spring break and people generally behaving like this is completely behind us.

That info may be included elsewhere as I always go off the email blasts.


Was glad to see the hospitalizations go down. Hopefully we won't see an uptick due to spring break and people generally behaving like this is completely behind us.

I found the numbers in their situational report

“ Today we are adding approximately 1,300 previously unreported cases and 1,716 unreported deaths to the dashboard. As a result, cases for today will appear artificially high. Learn more: https://go.usa.gov/xHYYM.
As of this advisory, there are 441,906 cases (+1,764) of COVID-19 in Oklahoma.
506 is today's 7-day rolling average for the number of new cases reported.
306 is today's 7-day rolling average without the previous unreported cases.”

When they have oddball numbers added in like this why can't they just add them to the overall total with an explanation but leave the daily number as it would normally be. Oh wait, that would be too easy!

The simple truth is that if you aren't tech-savvy, knowledgeable about all the various sites that have appointment information, and aren't diligent about constantly checking all of them for availability, this is not an easy process.

And even if you do all those things, you still may have to drive a good distance.


If you are an active user on this site, this all seems second nature but there are a lot of people -- mainly poor and/or older -- who face significant barriers.


BTW, today is 2 weeks since my 2nd vax so I am as protected as I'll ever be. I plan to actually go out this weekend for the first time in a long time.

Assuming it's accurate and for no other reasons, the uneven distribution of vaccines is a factor as shown here. Don't understand why much smaller population centers should get many more.

160 appointments at 1st Dose - Guthrie - Logan County Fairgrounds
12 at Pfizer - Stillwater - Payne County Health Department

Also the Guthrie Super Wal-Mart has many more appointments than any of the ones in Stillwater, any which may be out of stock.

Assuming it's accurate and for no other reasons, the uneven distribution of vaccines is a factor as shown here. Don't understand why much smaller population centers should get many more.

160 appointments at 1st Dose - Guthrie - Logan County Fairgrounds
12 at Pfizer - Stillwater - Payne County Health Department

Also the Guthrie Super Wal-Mart has many more appointments than any of the ones in Stillwater, any which may be out of stock.

This could be related to how the vaccines come and how many at packaged together as a lot. They might want to split them up into smaller amounts therefore to get Guthrie any, they get a full lot which might be in excess of need where as Stillwater would utilize their entire lot
I believe I read something about that a few weeks back

This could be related to how the vaccines come and how many at packaged together as a lot. They might want to split them up into smaller amounts therefore to get Guthrie any, they get a full lot which might be in excess of need where as Stillwater would utilize their entire lot
I believe I read something about that a few weeks back

I kind suspect a bigger factor might be ease of access to personnel from outside areas before vaccines logistics. I am a bit surprised they are even bothering with Pfizer in Stillwater, given Moderna has a much more mild temp could be transported at.

For medical personal already living in Edmond, Guthrie would still be in a range most people commute to a daily job, while it is not unheard of for people to cover the distance to Stillwater, way less people are willing to do so. So for business or organizations in Guthrie, they are probably going to have a easier time either hiring or getting volunteers to work a temporary job for a few months than Stillwater.

Pfizer is packaged in cases that hold a large number of doses, and once you really open them to separate them out the clock on them going bad starts ticking. You pretty much have to allocate the entire case to one place to be efficient.

I think the next 3 or 4 days of new case numbers will be interesting. Hopefully low and interesting. Last July the peak in 7 day average probably caused by July 4 happened starting 13 days after the 4th then started dropping 18 days after the 4th. Spring break ended 18 days ago so that should put at the end of that window with no peak so far. Yes, yesterday was up a little even with the 1300 subtracted. But the next few days should tell.

483 new cases today; 7-day rolling average very high due to yesterday's catch-up dump: 516.

29 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 17.9.

Hospitalizations are 204 (-3).

ICU is 53 (-3).

I’m only really interested in what Epidemiologists have to say about pandemics.

He used a model developed by epidemiologists.

Here's some light reading.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/08/lawmaker-aims-stop-oklahoma-gov-stitt-privatizing-medicaid/7108141002/

He used a model developed by epidemiologists.

Here's some light reading.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/08/lawmaker-aims-stop-oklahoma-gov-stitt-privatizing-medicaid/7108141002/
The link opens a story about a medicaid bill.

The link opens a story about a medicaid bill.

My mistake.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/BPEASP21_Atkeson_conf-draft.pdf

I'm not an epidemiologist or an economist, but it would appear on the face of the paper that this is worth a read.

It makes some conclusions which include the rebuilding of our worldwide disease detection network, and learning our lessons from COVID. As costly as this thing has been, I hope we learned our lesson.

Mayor Holt said today that they do not have the votes to end the mask ordinance early, so it will almost certainly last until April 30th, then expire.

Doesn't sound like there would be enough support to continue it past the end of this month.


Will be very interesting to see what individual business choose to do after that point. I suspect most won't require masks.

I also suspect very few businesses will require masks. I'll just feel out of place for awhile wearing mine. But hell, I've felt out of place a lot in my life.

I do miss my family and friends, so I'll be seeing more of them very soon and that's the biggest thing to me.

The biggest difference between this coronavirus saga and say a war effort like WWII is the virus drove us apart from each other, while the war pulled us together on the home front.

The biggest difference between this coronavirus saga and say a war effort like WWII is the virus drove us apart from each other, while the war pulled us together on the home front.
Yeah, this is more like the Vietnam War.

Yeah, this is more like the Vietnam War.And I'm afraid another war, even one like WW2, would divide us even more. Togetherness and patriotism don't exist like they did then. Now it's all about "me, me, me". Also way too much bad information would be spread about the war just like it is for the virus.

The biggest difference between this coronavirus saga and say a war effort like WWII is the virus drove us apart from each other, while the war pulled us together on the home front.

True. I just didn't think that it would be the sitting President that would be the one driving the wedge in between us.

True. I just didn't think that it would be the sitting President that would be the one driving the wedge in between us.

Sure, there is the political stuff, but this virus had/has old people like Pete's age and older sitting in thier house and avoiding friends and family for a year. That sort environment physically isolates us. The politics just made/is making a bad situation worst.

old people like Pete's age

Thanks!


Yesterday, there were more than 80,000 new cases in the U.S. and almost 500 in Oklahoma.

This thing is a very long way from being over, even though most people are acting like it is.

Yes Pete, and it crazy, scary when with 80K new cases, we are third in the world in case count. India has a huge problem with over 130K and Brazil with 89K. Even Turkey has 55K. I hope I am wrong, but I am thinking that in the coming weeks Oklahoma will see our case count rising again. I hope not. Mich. has had 300 + break through cases with 3 deaths. I hope this is an error in reporting.

Michigan is an odd case right now. But there is this:

"Lynn Sutfin, a spokeswoman for the state health department, said those individuals had a positive test 14 or more days after the last dose in the vaccine series, but some may ultimately be excluded because of a prior infection where they still tested positive after being vaccinated."

And 246 out of almost 2mil vaccinated is .01 percent. Not what we want to see but no vaccine is 100%.This is why precautions will still have to be taken after being vaccinated. I know I'm going to until this virus is toast.

old people like Pete's age and olderOuch! I'm part of that group too.

FYI, I just turned 60 and I did the full Ironman triathlon (Google it) 3x starting when I was 48.

Very far from old!

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Way to go Pete!!!

I raced road bikes for many years and I'd never consider a triathlon. I always said if God wanted me to run he wouldn't let me afford bikes.

FYI, I just turned 60 and I did the full Ironman triathlon (Google it) 3x starting when I was 48.

Very far from old!

Impressive at any age!! Even a 1/2 Tri is a feat!

416 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 522 (skewed due to a recent catch-up amount).

10 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 14.4

Hospitalizations are 196 (-8).

ICU is 49 (-4).

FYI, I just turned 60 and I did the full Ironman triathlon (Google it) 3x starting when I was 48.

Very far from old!

Using the term "older people" rather than "old people" would have been nicer.

It's been two weeks since shot number two so I'm officially able to get in to see mom. My sister made a weekly appointment on Sundays when she became eligible so I'm going to meet her there this Sunday. She says mom has no idea of anything going on. A sort of "lights are on but there's no one home". At least I can do my duty and see mom.

And 246 out of almost 2mil vaccinated is .01 percent. Not what we want to see but no vaccine is 100%.This is why precautions will still have to be taken after being vaccinated. I know I'm going to until this virus is toast.

This is all expected and not bad news at all. "Breakthrough cases" were expected and the vaccines still make COVID cases mild so that hospitalizations and deaths are near zero for those vaccinated.

I’m hearing numbers today are going to significantly lower than lately.

204 new cases today. That’s a good sign. The weekend delay in reporting had me a little confused thinking this was three days worth of reporting but it is just the prior day.

Still that is low and hope it stays low.

968 new cases for the 3-day period; this is the highest in over a month. 7-day rolling average 536, also the highest in a month.

31 additional reported deaths for the 3-day period; 7-day rolling average 14.7.

As of Friday, hospitalizations were 192 (-4).

Also Friday, ICU was 48 (-1).

The poop doesn't lie people! Almost a week ago, there were indicators in our waste that suggests a pending rise in cases. Curious to see if this is the start of that rise...

Of course, with the issues in how we changed reporting again, it may be too difficult to determine.

The poop doesn't lie people! Almost a week ago, there were indicators in our waste that suggests a pending rise in cases. Curious to see if this is the start of that rise...

Of course, with the issues in how we changed reporting again, it may be too difficult to determine.

It’s not rising. It’s going down Or hovering at same it just fluctuates. 900 was over three days. Friday to Sunday.
There is a slight increase to the 7 day average which is 323 excluding the large corrected case dump.

Still I wouldn’t consider this to be cases rising yet. Definitely doesn’t follow the spike the poop suggested as you are stating.

Just go out any evening and you'll see clubs, bars and restaurants completely overflowing.

This is all so predictable.

Let's not make today's numbers worse than they are.
1. The 7 day average still has the 1300 added cases that are months old.
2. The 7 day average if you subtract 1300 from last Wednesday is 350.
3. The average since April 1 if you subtract 1300 from last Wednesday is 343.
4. Last Wed, Thur and Fri were 464, 483 and 416.
5. Average of last three days is 323. Lower than any of those numbers.

Just go out any evening and you'll see clubs, bars and restaurants completely overflowing.

This is all so predictable.
They have been for some time. Also why I'm in no hurry to go out yet.

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The last 4 Mondays that included Sat, Sun, and Mon have been:

4/13: 968
4/5: 873
3/29: 882
3/22: 959

Just go out any evening and you'll see clubs, bars and restaurants completely overflowing.

This is all so predictable.

Not sure what you mean. Because everything is placed and opened and have been for a long time. Majority of the state hasn’t stayed home in a long time. Cases aren’t spiking. They are ally are just holding steady so to me it seems the bars and restaurants being packed has no/minimal effect so not sure what you mean by predictable.

Non hepa filters rated MERV-13 can catch most viruses, but are more expensive.


Let's not make today's numbers worse than they are.
1. The 7 day average still has the 1300 added cases that are months old.
2. The 7 day average if you subtract 1300 from last Wednesday is 350.
3. The average since April 1 if you subtract 1300 from last Wednesday is 343.
4. Last Wed, Thur and Fri were 464, 483 and 416.
5. Average of last three days is 323. Lower than any of those numbers.

If you subtract everyone who is getting sick, the average is 0.
Trends are starting to rise in the country and this is despite the lack of sickness from the millions who have actually taken the shots. Those that didn't must be spiking big time.

Not sure what you mean. Because everything is placed and opened and have been for a long time. Majority of the state hasn’t stayed home in a long time. Cases aren’t spiking. They are ally are just holding steady so to me it seems the bars and restaurants being packed has no/minimal effect so not sure what you mean by predictable.

Cases are going up.

And every single restaurant and bar owner is reporting record business during the last month.

Those two things are completely related.

The cases to hospitalization correlation will be down though with the elderly mostly vaccinated at this point.

I posted the math. By the numbers cases are not rising in Oklahoma. At least not now and hopefully not again. Maybe they will. In the US yes they are. Mainly driven by a few states that are having exponential growth like everyone had last year.