View Full Version : Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)




BoulderSooner
03-04-2021, 02:30 PM
A good amount are in person. Campus is packed as usual and all the bars on campus corner are usually busy with lines out the door.

yep campus corner on friday and sat is about like normal

BoulderSooner
03-04-2021, 02:31 PM
I'm pretty sure OU isn't holding in person classes. Am I wrong?

lots of in person classes campus has tons of people on it every day .. and the bars on campus corner are full on the weekends

Pete
03-04-2021, 03:06 PM
OU has already announced they will be going back to full in-person classes in the fall.

Bill Robertson
03-04-2021, 03:33 PM
OU has already announced they will be going back to full in-person classes in the fall.
I saw that when I researched what they were doing now. I hope by fall it will be fine to be 100% in person.

FighttheGoodFight
03-04-2021, 03:40 PM
They are announcing it early so new students will want to come in the Fall. Numbers weren't down too much but you still had students who might have taken a gap year or done online classes at a local community college since they couldn't get the "full" college experience this year.

All in all I think OU did about as good of a job as they could. I'm sure it is a tough balancing act. Sometimes I ponder what Gallogy would have done... maybe that is for another thread. Carry on.

ditm4567
03-04-2021, 03:49 PM
OU has already announced they will be going back to full in-person classes in the fall.

Are people shocked by this announcement for some reason?

DowntownMan
03-04-2021, 07:25 PM
lots of in person classes campus has tons of people on it every day .. and the bars on campus corner are full on the weekends
Well if this is the case and we aren't having a huge issue with cases there - then that's good news.

C_M_25
03-05-2021, 10:59 AM
Looks like Oklahoma’s trend is now falling in line with the recent rise in cases nationally. People are getting complacent again...

Pete
03-05-2021, 11:03 AM
917 new cases today; numbers are definitely going up again. 7-day rolling average 648.

They are still reporting zero additional deaths as they reconcile to the much larger CDC number which is now listed at 7,202.

Hospitalizations are 366 (-38).

ICU is 109 (-9).

soonerguru
03-05-2021, 12:14 PM
80 deaths were reported in the Oklahoman today, for what it's worth.

Pete
03-05-2021, 12:15 PM
^

The death numbers have become meaningless.

There is no way to compare or plot trends.

Bill Robertson
03-05-2021, 12:28 PM
^

The death numbers have become meaningless.

There is no way to compare or plot trends.
Isn't that the truth. And it's adding to the "getting hard to even trust" level. The Oklahoman reports 80. The daily notification says 0. The EORs have posted the same 56 deaths and 4534 total deaths since Tuesday. It's sad how badly the data is handled here.

kukblue1
03-05-2021, 12:53 PM
Where are we at in terms of turn around time for testing. I know in the fall it was taking 7-10 days to get test results. I imagine now it's down to 2-3 days or is there any way to really know

Bill Robertson
03-05-2021, 01:12 PM
Where are we at in terms of turn around time for testing. I know in the fall it was taking 7-10 days to get test results. I imagine now it's down to 2-3 days or is there any way to really knowI'm pretty sure it's around that. Rapid tests can be a couple hours or less.

PoliSciGuy
03-05-2021, 01:20 PM
Second part of Phase 2 is opening up, which includes Staff and residents in congregate locations and worksites, public health staff supporting front line efforts. Estimated population of around 22k or so. Phase 3 (teachers and students in universities) and essential business personnel are expected to be eligible sometime in early April, if not sooner.

FighttheGoodFight
03-05-2021, 01:26 PM
Second part of Phase 2 is opening up, which includes Staff and residents in congregate locations and worksites, public health staff supporting front line efforts. Estimated population of around 22k or so. Phase 3 (teachers and students in universities) and essential business personnel are expected to be eligible sometime in early April, if not sooner.

This is pretty much the final phase. Almost 1.5 million in phase 3. Just about everyone is in an essential business if you read the list.

FighttheGoodFight
03-05-2021, 01:27 PM
Where are we at in terms of turn around time for testing. I know in the fall it was taking 7-10 days to get test results. I imagine now it's down to 2-3 days or is there any way to really know

The last PCR (non rapid) my wife took was 8 hours.

soonerguru
03-06-2021, 12:40 PM
^

The death numbers have become meaningless.

There is no way to compare or plot trends.

And, while this is probably no conspiracy, the fudging of these numbers, due to negligence or simply being overwhelmed, serves the interests of those who do not want the public to fully understand the scope of the deaths.

It's unfortunate that we have lost all sense of scale.

I did trust the data the state was releasing, so I was shocked when they fessed up to, oh, just another 35% of deaths you didn't know about. Sorry about that.

It would have been optimum for them to say they were seriously falling behind on reporting deaths during the most recent spike, which began in earnest in October. They did not. We did know there was a lag of a couple of weeks to a month to report, but thousands of deaths not being reported in a timely manner is a wholesale breakdown, and media deserve some criticism here for not probing further.

Perhaps the media were just as blindsided as the public as to the scope of this omission of information.

But it boils down to, "well, we tried and couldn't do it, so we are just going with these federal numbers we didn't previously accept." Wut?

Pete
03-06-2021, 01:10 PM
978 new cases today.

Hosptalizations are 346 (-20).

ICU is 100 (-9).

Bill Robertson
03-06-2021, 01:26 PM
The new cases are back up a little. But they aren't in the thousands like they were. And they're up from numbers that were probably artificially low due to a weekend followed by a week of snow and deep freeze followed by another weekend.

Pete
03-07-2021, 11:03 AM
461 new cases today.

7-day rolling average 641.

LocoAko
03-07-2021, 11:16 AM
Where are we at in terms of turn around time for testing. I know in the fall it was taking 7-10 days to get test results. I imagine now it's down to 2-3 days or is there any way to really know

I'm a few days late, but Friday evening at 11PM or so I booked an appointment with OU Health for 10AM. In and out in two minutes, and had my results at 4:30PM. Amazingly fast and easy by now.

Bill Robertson
03-07-2021, 01:50 PM
I'm a few days late, but Friday evening at 11PM or so I booked an appointment with OU Health for 10AM. In and out in two minutes, and had my results at 4:30PM. Amazingly fast and easy by now.
I've unfollowed Oklahoma Source because of all the comments that cases are down because it's very difficult to get tested. I sat in the office one day and found I could make all the appointments I wanted to. Same day or next day.

soonerguru
03-08-2021, 10:16 AM
Here comes the dust-up. Oklahoma's death toll discrepancies were the biggest of any state. And, to my earlier point, as the article mentions, Gov. Stitt "touted" Oklahoma's death rate while we were unaware of about 2,500 deaths.

https://oklahoman.com/article/5683662/data-discrepancy-oklahoma-officials-provided-out-of-date-look-at-coronavirus-deaths

jccouger
03-08-2021, 10:19 AM
Here comes the dust-up. Oklahoma's death toll discrepancies were the biggest of any state. And, to my earlier point, as the article mentions, Gov. Stitt "touted" Oklahoma's death rate while we were unaware of about 2,500 deaths.

https://oklahoman.com/article/5683662/data-discrepancy-oklahoma-officials-provided-out-of-date-look-at-coronavirus-deaths

Yeah, I can understand the explanation of why it happened but to try to normalize this is not logical. This is completely inexcusable & is at best negligent. At worst there is manipulation, and I'm not willing to write it off.

Pete
03-08-2021, 10:25 AM
^

Stitt has repeatedly crowed about how Oklahoma "stayed open for business" and how we were somehow doing better than other states with Covid-19.

However, we are 8th in the nation in per capita infections and around 23rd in deaths per capita. Those are terrible numbers given the way Oklahoma is generally spread out and therefore should have been well below the national averages in both categories... Especially because by far and away the most infections and deaths came long after the CDC had learned from other states and countries and Stitt just refused to follow their guidelines while constantly putting forward misinformation.

I don't see how Oklahoma's response could be characterized as anything other than a complete failure.

Pete
03-08-2021, 11:07 AM
165 new cases today.

7-day rolling average 611.

Bunty
03-08-2021, 12:10 PM
lots of in person classes campus has tons of people on it every day .. and the bars on campus corner are full on the weekends

In contrast to that, in Stillwater, due to it being too small and boring, lots of college students go home for the weekend or go to Tulsa or OKC for fun, leaving it up to the townies and neighboring out of towners to try to pack the bars on the strip during weekend nights. In the Salty Bronc, the majority of the people will be over age 30. It's why the strip doesn't just totally shut down every summer.

Bunty
03-08-2021, 12:17 PM
^

Stitt has repeatedly crowed about how Oklahoma "stayed open for business" and how we were somehow doing better than other states with Covid-19.



That's not true, since I couldn't get a haircut for like 6 weeks or go to a bar or restaurant. Stitt, must be thinking about the many rural counties he didn't shut down.

OKCretro
03-08-2021, 02:26 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

kukblue1
03-08-2021, 05:46 PM
^ Maybe that is the real reason "other countries" have done a better job. Healthy Just a thought.

Pete
03-08-2021, 05:51 PM
68% of all Americans are overweight or obese; that article says 78% of those who have been hospitalized or died due to Covid-19 are in the same category.

Not much of a difference.

OKCretro
03-08-2021, 06:06 PM
^ Maybe that is the real reason "other countries" have done a better job. Healthy Just a thought.

Yes, hopefully Americans as a whole will look at this and realize we need to be healthier as a country.

gopokes88
03-08-2021, 09:21 PM
^ Maybe that is the real reason "other countries" have done a better job. Healthy Just a thought.

It’s the exact reason.

gopokes88
03-08-2021, 09:22 PM
68% of all Americans are overweight or obese; that article says 78% of those who have been hospitalized or died due to Covid-19 are in the same category.

Not much of a difference.

That’s a massive, statistically significant difference when numbers are in the millions.

PoliSciGuy
03-08-2021, 09:23 PM
That’s a massive, statistically significant difference when numbers are in the millions.

Yeah, absolutely this. A 10% increase in worse outcomes above the norm is a *huge* signifier of something meaningful there.

SouthOfTheVillage
03-08-2021, 09:37 PM
^

Stitt has repeatedly crowed about how Oklahoma "stayed open for business" and how we were somehow doing better than other states with Covid-19.

However, we are 8th in the nation in per capita infections and around 23rd in deaths per capita. Those are terrible numbers given the way Oklahoma is generally spread out and therefore should have been well below the national averages in both categories... Especially because by far and away the most infections and deaths came long after the CDC had learned from other states and countries and Stitt just refused to follow their guidelines while constantly putting forward misinformation.

I don't see how Oklahoma's response could be characterized as anything other than a complete failure.

Currently 36th in deaths per capita, which is lower than every bordering state except Colorado.

catcherinthewry
03-08-2021, 09:51 PM
Currently 36th in deaths per capita, which is lower than every bordering state except Colorado.

That does not include the 2500+ deaths that CDC counts but OK is in the process of reconciling. I calculated what OK's ranking would in deaths per capita last week if they included the 2500+ deaths and we would rank 16th.

Bill Robertson
03-09-2021, 08:19 AM
That does not include the 2500+ deaths that CDC counts but OK is in the process of reconciling. I calculated what OK's ranking would in deaths per capita last week if they included the 2500+ deaths and we would rank 16th.
Where does the CDC list the higher death number. I just looked up a chart on the CDC page and it says 4702.

Pete
03-09-2021, 08:35 AM
^

OK Dept of Health is starting to list the CDC number instead of their own on their daily reports.

Yesterday it was 7,219 up 18 from the previous day.

Bill Robertson
03-09-2021, 08:46 AM
Thanks. I wonder why that CDC page lists 4702. Just seems like data reporting locally and nationally can be done much better.

corwin1968
03-09-2021, 10:02 AM
68% of all Americans are overweight or obese; that article says 78% of those who have been hospitalized or died due to Covid-19 are in the same category.

Not much of a difference.

That was my first thought, as well.

The only person I've know who has died from Covid was at the extreme range of morbidly obese. Probably 450+.

Pete
03-09-2021, 11:04 AM
270 new cases today. 7-day rolling average 633.

They are now using the CDC numbers for deaths: 7,307 total which is +88.

Hopsitalizations are 311 (-35).

ICU is 89 (-11).

FighttheGoodFight
03-09-2021, 11:08 AM
Good to see hospital numbers staying low. I think that trend stays as a good amount of the 65+ pop has gotten their vaccine.

Bill Robertson
03-09-2021, 02:10 PM
Stitt is supposed to talk about new nursing home visitation guidance in a few minutes. Maybe at just about a year since I saw her last I'll get to see mom again.

kukblue1
03-09-2021, 10:42 PM
Where can you get the Hospitalization numbers?

Bill Robertson
03-10-2021, 09:14 AM
Where can you get the Hospitalization numbers?

The daily EOR on the OSDH web site

Pete
03-10-2021, 11:05 AM
818 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 643.

37 additional reported deaths.

Hospitalizations are 292 (-19). The all-time high was 1,994 on 1/7/21.

ICU is 84 (-5). The all-time high was 499 on 1/19/21.

kukblue1
03-10-2021, 05:46 PM
Do we think new cases are going to hit over 1,000 again? 270 to 818 is a pretty big jump. I wouldn't be surprised to see over 1,000 a few time in the next few weeks until more are vaccinated hope i'm wrong

Bill Robertson
03-10-2021, 06:36 PM
Not saying we can't hit 1000 again but:
1) A very few weeks ago we were seeing 1000s per day. 818 would have been a miracle.
2) Tuesday has always been low and Wednesday a kind of catch up day.

FighttheGoodFight
03-11-2021, 10:35 AM
"Gov. Kevin Stitt says he will drop all COVID restrictions on events and individuals statewide as well as the requirement that masks be worn in state buildings"

https://twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1370048844772347908?s=20

PoliSciGuy
03-11-2021, 10:38 AM
"Well the parachute has slowed down my fall so much, I think I can safely cut it loose 50 ft from the ground"

Just incredible how badly Stitt has managed all of this. Genuinely can't wait to vote him out.

FighttheGoodFight
03-11-2021, 10:40 AM
I also want to be clear, this doesn't change mask mandates that Oklahoma cities have in place right now.

Rover
03-11-2021, 10:46 AM
"Well the parachute has slowed down my fall so much, I think I can safely cut it loose 50 ft from the ground"

Just incredible how badly Stitt has managed all of this. Genuinely can't wait to vote him out.

Yeah, but more like "I haven't fallen and died so I'm going to cut YOUR parachute cord 1000 ft from the ground".

Pete
03-11-2021, 11:25 AM
694 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 615.

89 additional reported deaths; 7,433 total.

Hospitalizations are 268 (-24).

ICU is 69 (-15).

mugofbeer
03-11-2021, 06:51 PM
It's very much not like me to do this but my only brother there in OKC has contracted the virus. Of course, he was due to get his first vaccination in Shawnee the day after he first tested + and is immunocompromised. He's now seriously sick. For those who are inclined, please pray for him and for those not inclined, just think positive thoughts. Thank you!

Pete
03-11-2021, 06:52 PM
^

Oh man, that's terrible news.

Thoughts are with you and him at this time.

How old is your brother?

mugofbeer
03-11-2021, 06:56 PM
^

Oh man, that's terrible news.

Thoughts are with you and him at this time.

How old is your brother?

Thank you very much. He's 70.

Pete
03-11-2021, 07:08 PM
Oh, my.

I'm 60 and have a sister that is 67 and another that is 64. 2 younger sisters are 59 and 56.

We've all escaped this thing thus far. We didn't even get together for Thanksgiving or Christmas, which I always host. We literally didn't see each other at all.

I've been scared to death for myself and them. We are so close to getting through this but we can't let our guard down yet.

Please keep us posted on your brother.

Bill Robertson
03-11-2021, 07:28 PM
Mugofbeer, I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. Definitely sending prayers.