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There has been a strong push to get Covid patients out of hospitals and into some other sort of skilled nursing care.

It's one of the reasons for the sharp decline in hospitalization numbers.

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There has been a strong push to get Covid patients out of hospitals and into some other sort of skilled nursing care.

It's one of the reasons for the sharp decline in hospitalization numbers.
I pretty much knew that. And it makes sense. And I'm glad to now know mom's status. But my oldest "sister in charge" seems to think that with special care, physical therapy, etc. my 93 year old mom who has been in the "total care" wing of the nursing home where she's been and now has been hospitalized with COVID will be at a level of ability or better than before. Hell, I'm 61 and could ride a sub 5 hour century on a bicycle a few years ago and post COVID I have to sit and catch my breath/let my heart rate drop after a trip to the kitchen or bathroom.

Our genius Governor is trying to sell back the $2M worth of Hydroxycloriquine he bought.

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/

In April, Gov. Kevin Stitt, who ordered the hydroxychloroquine purchase, defended it by saying that while it may not be a useful treatment for the coronavirus, the drug had multiple other uses and “that money will not have gone to waste in any respect.”

But nearly a year later the state is trying to offload the drug back to its original supplier, California-based FFF Enterprises, Inc, a private pharmaceutical wholesaler.

I just read the below on Oklahoma Source. While hospitalizations are down they aren't as far down as they seemed.

"As of 1-26-2021 (a random Tuesday and with no announcement), there has been a sudden update regarding reporting of hospitalizations in Oklahoma. And of course, it results in lower numbers being reported than actual individuals receiving medical care.

If you're in a Rehab facility due to COVID or COVID complications, you are no longer counted.

If you're in a Tribal Health Care facility due to COVID or COVID complications, you are no longer counted.

If you're in a Focus facility due to COVID or COVID complications, you are no longer counted.

If you’re receiving Acute Medical Care at home as a result of COVID, via the Hospitals Without Walls program through CMS, you are still not counted."

^

Also, about a month ago, they stopped adding presumed Covid cases to the total.

They keep changing the way they report which makes it very difficult to look at trends.

I just read the below on Oklahoma Source. While hospitalizations are down they aren't as far down as they seemed.

"As of 1-26-2021 (a random Tuesday and with no announcement), there has been a sudden update regarding reporting of hospitalizations in Oklahoma. And of course, it results in lower numbers being reported than actual individuals receiving medical care.

If you're in a Rehab facility due to COVID or COVID complications, you are no longer counted.

If you're in a Tribal Health Care facility due to COVID or COVID complications, you are no longer counted.

If you're in a Focus facility due to COVID or COVID complications, you are no longer counted.

If you’re receiving Acute Medical Care at home as a result of COVID, via the Hospitals Without Walls program through CMS, you are still not counted."

What a complete load of sh!t, not surprised at anything this administration does, however.

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It went on to say the hospitals now being reported make up the Surge Plan. That could have been and hopefully has been tracked separately from the hospitalized total and leave the reported number the way it was. Like Pete said it's hard to trend a changing data set.

2,686 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,679.

65 (!) additional reported deaths, a single-day high. 7-day rolling average is 43.3, an all-time high.

Under the new reporting protocol, hospitalizations continue to go down: 1,322 (-132).

ICU is similar, 368 (-42).

Could you imagine the outrage if this were a visible, tangible threat. While the numbers are real, it does not have the magnitude of for example a Greyhound bus with 43 people on it crashing off a bridge every day killing everyone on board.

Why won't people take this seriously? My social media feeds are vastly different with my friends back in Oklahoma, versus here in Colorado. Seems like party-cental in Oklahoma while everyone on my feed here ks a little more restrained. The occasional get together but very limited to how many people, and usually at a residence and not a bar.

Politics

Politics
Where?

Could you imagine the outrage if this were a visible, tangible threat. While the numbers are real, it does not have the magnitude of for example a Greyhound bus with 43 people on it crashing off a bridge every day killing everyone on board.

Why won't people take this seriously? My social media feeds are vastly different with my friends back in Oklahoma, versus here in Colorado. Seems like party-cental in Oklahoma while everyone on my feed here ks a little more restrained. The occasional get together but very limited to how many people, and usually at a residence and not a bar.

I think that really says more about your friends (not in a judgmental way). My feed of friends in Oklahoma is filled with people who haven't been out partying, eating, or doing much of anything and are expressing the anxiousness to get the vaccine and return to normal. Same for my friends in Colorado, California, and Texas.

If anyone is interested there is now a site for the WH reports that were previously hidden so you can enjoy them!

https://beta.healthdata.gov/Community/COVID-19-State-Profile-Report-Oklahoma/w3en-az48

Stitt thinking he could just keep those reports hidden away from the public has worked about as well as pretty much all of his other plans.

But now they are Biden reports and can be ignored without political consequences.

2,686 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,679.

65 (!) additional reported deaths, a single-day high. 7-day rolling average is 43.3, an all-time high.

Under the new reporting protocol, hospitalizations continue to go down: 1,322 (-132).

ICU is similar, 368 (-42).

These numbers seem to point to an increase in the leathality of the virus. Or maybe less people are getting tested in the last few weeks? Something odd is happening with the numbers. Has anyone seen an explanation?

I think that really says more about your friends (not in a judgmental way). My feed of friends in Oklahoma is filled with people who haven't been out partying, eating, or doing much of anything and are expressing the anxiousness to get the vaccine and return to normal. Same for my friends in Colorado, California, and Texas.

He has younger friends, that's probably why.

But I have all ages and just today found out my best friend's wife (59) contracted Covid. And it's zero surprise because neither one of them are the least bit careful and I've avoided them both to a large extent. I am having minor surgery next week and so I'll be tested soon and hopefully they did not pass it on to me.

And of course it's 100% political. People on the right listen to leaders and talking heads that have done everything in their power to minimize this entire situation and the political leanings of anyone almost completely dictates how seriously they take Covid-19; all types of research confirms this.

These numbers seem to point to an increase in the leathality of the virus. Or maybe less people are getting tested in the last few weeks? Something odd is happening with the numbers. Has anyone seen an explanation?

It is about a month after Christmas. The spike usually takes about 3 weeks until the deaths come. Death has always been a lagging indicator.

Politics

And low levels of education/science knowledge.

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He has younger friends, that's probably why.

But I have all ages and just today found out my best friend's wife (59) contracted Covid. And it's zero surprise because neither one of them are the least bit careful and I've avoided them both to a large extent. I am having minor surgery next week and so I'll be tested soon and hopefully they did not pass it on to me.

And of course it's 100% political. People on the right listen to leaders and talking heads that have done everything in their power to minimize this entire situation and the political leanings of anyone almost completely dictates how seriously they take Covid-19; all types of research confirms this.

I admit my example is 100% anecdotal, as my friends in Oklahoma tend to be younger, while my friends in Colorado are slightly older than me. But, to your point it seems age isn't the prime factor in people ignoring guidelines - blatantly.

Our genius Governor is trying to sell back the $2M worth of Hydroxycloriquine he bought.

https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/

In April, Gov. Kevin Stitt, who ordered the hydroxychloroquine purchase, defended it by saying that while it may not be a useful treatment for the coronavirus, the drug had multiple other uses and “that money will not have gone to waste in any respect.”

But nearly a year later the state is trying to offload the drug back to its original supplier, California-based FFF Enterprises, Inc, a private pharmaceutical wholesaler.


Maybe he can give it out the the state employees in lieu of pay.

These numbers seem to point to an increase in the leathality of the virus. Or maybe less people are getting tested in the last few weeks? Something odd is happening with the numbers. Has anyone seen an explanation?
That's impossible to say. In the release it says these deaths go back as far as Dec 14. 26 of the deaths reported today happened before Jan 20. I don't know how anyone could make sense of any death trends when there's such a range of time for deaths reported daily.

These numbers seem to point to an increase in the leathality of the virus. Or maybe less people are getting tested in the last few weeks? Something odd is happening with the numbers. Has anyone seen an explanation?

As Bill noted, we can't draw that conclusion or much of any conclusion because the death data comes out with a substantial lag and is not even released on a "per day" basis. That is, you could have deaths that occurred on 11/15, 12/19, 1/3, and 1/14 all released on the same day. Thus, it's not correlated to the case counts that are reported each day. At some point, when we have access to the full datasets, we'll be able to match date of death to the full range of data and draw some interesting conclusions.

2,320 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,626.

35 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 40.4.

Hospitlaizations are 1,250 (-72).

ICU is 341 (-27).

Seems to have plateaued a bit, and at a higher level than when this peak started. Not great. Hopefully we can get declining again before B.117 becomes dominant in the next six weeks or so.

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I think COVID-19 still has a reputation for not being a very serious illness for most people. My 62 old friend had it and was back to work in little more than a week. Still, to me it would be a drag to be sick for that long. She thought the worst part of it was having headaches. Besides that, I don't want to take a chance with being long hauler. That would really be a drag.

16% positive rate is still pretty high but deaths are starting to now go back down a little bit. 7.6% of Oklahomans have gotten the vaccine so far. All good things.

Could you imagine the outrage if this were a visible, tangible threat. While the numbers are real, it does not have the magnitude of for example a Greyhound bus with 43 people on it crashing off a bridge every day killing everyone on board.

Why won't people take this seriously? My social media feeds are vastly different with my friends back in Oklahoma, versus here in Colorado. Seems like party-cental in Oklahoma while everyone on my feed here ks a little more restrained. The occasional get together but very limited to how many people, and usually at a residence and not a bar.

Gotta be honest: my friends aren't doing that. If they were, they probably wouldn't really be considered "friends," because they would be dumb a-holes.

Not surprising that Colorado is doing marginally better in your perception, because Oklahoma is a seriously dumb state led by tragically dumb people.

2,787 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,604.

48 additional deaths; 7-day rolling average 40.6.

Hospitalizations are 1,247 (-3).

ICU is 352 (+11).

Hospitalizations, total done the old way, are the lowest since Thanksgiving.

2,373 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,349 the lowest since before Thanksgiving.

33 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average now 39.0.

Hospitalizations are 1,184 (-63).

ICU is 345 (-7).

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cdc-face-masks-public-transit-airplanes_n_6015dd03c5b622df90f3ecc1

Yay.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cdc-face-masks-public-transit-airplanes_n_6015dd03c5b622df90f3ecc1

Yay.

I don’t get why this is such a big deal. Weren’t all of these places already requiring this? I guess this just makes it easier to enforce but I assume 99% already complied on planes and such. I mean the airlines were pretty strict about it right?

I don’t get why this is such a big deal. Weren’t all of these places already requiring this? I guess this just makes it easier to enforce but I assume 99% already complied on planes and such. I mean the airlines were pretty strict about it right?

Yes, but it is much easier for the airline to say "in accordance with federal regulations" than "in accordance with company policy". It moves the argument to "you will get in trouble for not complying, and we will get in trouble for not enforcing your compliance".

Yes, but it is much easier for the airline to say "in accordance with federal regulations" than "in accordance with company policy". It moves the argument to "you will get in trouble for not complying, and we will get in trouble for not enforcing your compliance".

Yes, this! It does not a damn bit of good to have a sign up saying "Masks required" if you let someone walk in without one and act like they're a normal person and wait on them just like normal without even saying a thing. This has (theoretically) enforcement teeth behind it.

2,882 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,340.

43 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 38.3.

I think today marks two weeks since we started seeing “lower” new case counts. By lower I mean like 2000 not 4000.
Today’s death counts, while still not zero it was 17 which is lower than the 30-40 it’s been lately. Hopefully this is a trend that continues to drop.

Would be nice if we could get the vulnerable vaccinated so that the hospitals and deaths are continuing to drop regardless of the case counts. That was the ultimate goal right?

2,882 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,340.

43 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 38.3.

Those are yesterday's numbers. Today's were 1396 new cases and 17 new deaths.

Those are yesterday's numbers. Today's were 1396 new cases and 17 new deaths.
He posted that yesterday.

He posted that yesterday.

My mistake. I wonder why it just came up in my Latest Posts at 11:30, I'm sure I checked it multiple times yesterday afternoon and evening. Weird.

1,396 new cases today; 7-day rolling average down to 2,288.

17 additional deaths; 7-day rolling average 38.7.


Updated hospitalization numbers will be out this evening.

Very promising to see the numbers trending down. Hopefully this continues. Let's ramp up those vaccines!!! FYI, my parents said that they weren't getting the vaccine and they stand a decent chance to succumbing to this thing if they catch it...grrrr!! Just don't understand that thinking.

Let's hope we can continue to ramp up these vaccines and get our baseline down before these new variants take hold.

Anyone who has had it, were there any sudden onset, but quickly vanishing symptoms? I was at work yesterday (I am in good shape, and work a physically demanding job) and was plugging in the power to an airplane. The head of the cord weighs about 10 lbs and requires some decent force to push into the receptacle, but nothing I haven't done literally tens of thousands of times. When I did that it felt like I had run a mile, absolutely nothing in my lungs. I stayed crouched down for a second or two, but got up and was fine. I proceeded to work the flight, unloading and loading about 100 bags like nothing was even wrong. That episode really perked my ears up, and afterward I did notice some routine things were wearing me out/making me out of breath. For example, climbing a simple flight of stairs to go up the jetway to hand paperwork to the pilots. But it seems very random, I can power through some physically demanding things with no effort at all, and other mundane tasks started wiping me out, but randomly and only for just a few seconds. If I had any other symptoms at all I would say I have brain fog - forgetting where I am going, or what I was doing. Or forgetting something immediately after being told it, but only randomly and very briefly.

I am getting the vaccine tomorrow at the airport, and we have a free testing site at the airport for employees - I may do both in the same trip.

Anyone have random, brief breathing difficulties, but otherwise fine?

Would be nice if we could get the vulnerable vaccinated so that the hospitals and deaths are continuing to drop regardless of the case counts. That was the ultimate goal right?

I'm confused. Isn't this exactly what is happening? And, Oklahoma is doing better than most states at it.

My mom moved from Oklahoma to Utah recently and she has been frustrated because all her Oklahoma friends have been vaccinated and she still doesn't even have an idea yet when she will get the opportunity in Utah.

I'm confused. Isn't this exactly what is happening? And, Oklahoma is doing better than most states at it.

My mom moved from Oklahoma to Utah recently and she has been frustrated because all her Oklahoma friends have been vaccinated and she still doesn't even have an idea yet when she will get the opportunity in Utah.

Pretty much. People can talk about how bad Oklahoma's response to the pandemic was or was not but you can't say we aren't doing a good job getting this vaccine into Oklahomans. Wait until we are done with the 65+ population. I am guessing once they start with teachers we will be doing even more per week (only limited by supply).

We are close to using every bit of supply we have each week, so unless the federal government gives us more, the rate of vaccination should be relatively constant. We're doing a very good job overall.

The major exception to that is the tens of thousands of vaccines that were allocated to CVS and Walgreens to vaccinate long term care facility residents, but are currently sitting on a shelf. We should take those back immediately and use them. They represent nearly 60,000 vaccines that should have been in people's arms by now. The state already stopped allocating to CVS and Walgreens because of their slowness. It's inexcusable that these pharmacies have failed so badly.

I'm confused. Isn't this exactly what is happening? And, Oklahoma is doing better than most states at it.

My mom moved from Oklahoma to Utah recently and she has been frustrated because all her Oklahoma friends have been vaccinated and she still doesn't even have an idea yet when she will get the opportunity in Utah.

I should have elaborated more. Yes Oklahoma really is doing a good job with vaccines, yes some are frustrated with not getting appointment but there is just a high demand and limited supply. I guess I meant continue doing what we are doing keep getting more of the vulnerable in other age groups next and hope our trends keep going down to a manageable level

I believe states are receiving a proportional distribution (population / US pop). Colorado is receiving I think 20,000 per day. Oklahoma is probably receiving 15-16k. Of course, this depends on the total allotment available for distribution on any given day.

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Israel has been one of the most aggressive countries for vaccinating for COVID. I saw this in The Guardian.

"Israel’s health ministry released its first official results last week, showing that only 317 out of 715,425, or 0.04%, of people became infected a week after becoming fully vaccinated against the disease – the time when increased immunity is expected to kick in. Of the vaccinated people who were infected, 16 had to be treated in hospital, or 0.002% of the total."

I should have elaborated more. Yes Oklahoma really is doing a good job with vaccines, yes some are frustrated with not getting appointment but there is just a high demand and limited supply. I guess I meant continue doing what we are doing keep getting more of the vulnerable in other age groups next and hope our trends keep going down to a manageable level

I do think an unfortunate side effect of using and online only appointment system with 65+ population is it makes it very hard. I think it will get better as we open it to younger audiences but we absolutely have to target all the 65+ who wants it.

I wonder if it would be legal for the state to cross-reference the appointment system results with, say, the drivers license database to find more of the 65+ population that hasn't been vaccinated yet.

Problem with that is DPS is struggling big time with their new system, so I doubt anything having to do with drivers license would work. But I could be wrong.

1,296 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,249.

38 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average still a very high 39.9.

Hospitalizations are 1,123 (-61).

ICU is 320 (-25).


It really does seem that we've rounded the corner. Hopefully the vaccination rate will start to increase and by this summer things will be a lot better.

1,296 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 2,249.

38 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average still a very high 39.9.

Hospitalizations are 1,123 (-61).

ICU is 320 (-25).


It really does seem that we've rounded the corner. Hopefully the vaccination rate will start to increase and by this summer things will be a lot better.

Here’s to hoping we could see that hospital number drop below 1000 again soon! Could be this week of all goes as trending! But can’t get too excited yet. That’s still a lot but much better than it was at its max for sure

2,119 new cases today; 7-day rolling average continues its downward trend at 2,168.

Still tons of deaths, though -- another 52 today; 7-day rolling average 38.0.

Hopsitalizations are 1,048 (-75).

ICU is 303 (-17).

Health department said to expect high deaths for the next couple of weeks as we are seeing the end of the post holiday case surge. With low numbers now and more vaccines I am thinking after a few more high death number weeks we start to see these finally go down. Barring any huge increase in cases from variants this might be a trend from now on.

Stay safe folks. We are almost out of this. I dream of a fall OKCTalk meetup.

2,119 new cases today; 7-day rolling average continues its downward trend at 2,168.

Still tons of deaths, though -- another 52 today; 7-day rolling average 38.0.

Hopsitalizations are 1,048 (-75).

ICU is 303 (-17).

Would be curious to see breakout of the deaths by actual date of occurrence. Are they still recent or over a week ago? Deaths tend to lag the changes in case counts so a big hopefully that they start to drift down following the drop in other numbers

Would be curious to see breakout of the deaths by actual date of occurrence. Are they still recent or over a week ago? Deaths tend to lag the changes in case counts so a big hopefully that they start to drift down following the drop in other numbers

Osdh said 32 were from 1/27 to now. The rest from earlier.