Pete are you able to place those numbers in a graph? looks like the rate of hospitalizations and positive cases are slowing.

Pete are you able to place those numbers in a graph? looks like the rate of hospitalizations and positive cases are slowing.

There is a dip in new cases confirmed, but that also could be related to reduced hours on Friday and weekend of primary care

The very small increase in negative results seem to indicate fewer tests being done.

Most if not all the Starbucks in the greater metro have closed completely for 30 days, starting last weekend. There was one COVD-positive employee at an OKC store and they shut it down for a CDC-approved cleaning. I'm thinking they opted to close the rest for now.

Gotcha, figured it might have something to do with an employee testing positive somewhere.

Shelter in Place. But go to work, go shopping, go pick up food, get gas. SMH

If you have to go to work, you have to - my wife works at the House of Reps as a proofing specialist and their job can't be done remotely and lawsausage-making has to go on. She's on very reduced hours, but still has to go in if they need her. And if you're out of food, you have to get some, and if you have to go to work or the grocery store and you're low on gas, you have to get some. Not everybody can stay locked up in their houses for a weeks at a time, never ever venturing outside.

If you have to go to work, you have to - my wife works at the House of Reps as a proofing specialist and their job can't be done remotely and lawsausage-making has to go on. She's on very reduced hours, but still has to go in if they need her. And if you're out of food, you have to get some, and if you have to go to work or the grocery store and you're low on gas, you have to get some. Not everybody can stay locked up in their houses for a weeks at a time, never ever venturing outside.

yeah...this 100%

Shelter in Place. But go to work, go shopping, go pick up food, get gas. SMH

You literally just named every essential thing normal people have to do. Nothing to shake your head about in that list.

Shelter in Place. But go to work, go shopping, go pick up food, get gas. SMH

Non-shelter in place: everybody work (including businesses that depend on close contact like gyms, barber shops, nail salons, etc) and nobody teleworks, more people shopping standing closer together more often, eat at crowded restaurants and bars instead of drive thru and to-go, and of course get gas.

Essential movements and activities reduce the numbers of people interacting closely with each other.

Pete are you able to place those numbers in a graph? looks like the rate of hospitalizations and positive cases are slowing.

I hate to be a broken record, but these numbers mean very little until capacity for testing is greatly increased. We've been told that will be this week. We will see these numbers quickly jump over 500 then by the end of the week, we will likely be well over 1000 because we will (hopefully) be testing more cases.

I hate to be a broken record, but these numbers mean very little until capacity for testing is greatly increased. We've been told that will be this week. We will see these numbers quickly jump over 500 then by the end of the week, we will likely be well over 1000 because we will (hopefully) be testing more cases.As the numbers go up people, including our leaders, get more serious. But the increase in numbers reflect the increase in testing as much as the spread of the virus. It’s been bad for a few weeks. We’re just seeing written in stone data now.

If you have to go to work, you have to - my wife works at the House of Reps as a proofing specialist and their job can't be done remotely and lawsausage-making has to go on. She's on very reduced hours, but still has to go in if they need her. And if you're out of food, you have to get some, and if you have to go to work or the grocery store and you're low on gas, you have to get some. Not everybody can stay locked up in their houses for a weeks at a time, never ever venturing outside.

You can order groceries for delivery, make sure you wear gloves when you pump gas and wash, wash, wash your hands. Wear a mask, even a cotton mask when going outside. Below is a great piece of info from a doctor in New York. It’s long, but there’s very good info about 10 minutes in. Maybe there’s a reason the countries where people have been wearing masks when outside for years have much lower infection rates.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ

You can order groceries for delivery, make sure you wear gloves when you pump gas and wash, wash, wash your hands. ...

Yes, definitely, always do those things, I just didn't say it explicitly. But don't forget that there are lots of people that can't order groceries for delivery - they might not have internet, smartphones, etc. Not thought about much, but those folks exist...

If you have to go to work, you have to - my wife works at the House of Reps as a proofing specialist and their job can't be done remotely and lawsausage-making has to go on. She's on very reduced hours, but still has to go in if they need her. And if you're out of food, you have to get some, and if you have to go to work or the grocery store and you're low on gas, you have to get some. Not everybody can stay locked up in their houses for a weeks at a time, never ever venturing outside.

I think the only thing that should be open gas stations pharmacies grocery stores and Home Depot and Lowe's I'm sorry but going through Taco Bell drive-thru is not an essential necessity

You can order groceries for delivery, make sure you wear gloves when you pump gas and wash, wash, wash your hands. Wear a mask, even a cotton mask when going outside. Below is a great piece of info from a doctor in New York. It’s long, but there’s very good info about 10 minutes in. Maybe there’s a reason the countries where people have been wearing masks when outside for years have much lower infection rates.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YitWZj9QhdQ

Not everyone can order their groceries online. Additionally, I tried it twice and both times I was able to place the order, only later to be informed many things I had ordered were no longer available. Additionally, ordering means a third party touching all of your items.

Simply telling people to “wear gloves while pumping gas” is woefully inadequate unless the person fully understands how to properly wear, dispose of and the limitations of gloves - their purpose is to prevent cross contamination. You put them on, touch the apparatus and touch anything else, you’ve just potentially cross contaminated: credit card, purse, wallet, door handle, steering wheel, cell phone, etc.

Same goes for wearing masks - which neither gloves or masks addresses the eyes - another mucous membrane and potential infection site.

Of course, we are going to hear more and more reworking of the rules by the government and media... Now basically a scarf is okay, when it was scoffed at 2 weeks ago. Why? Psychology. The masses are seeing the death toll go higher and higher and can’t handle being helpless to stop it. So, give the masses something to do and a false sense of security.

Staying home and away from everyone else is an individual’s best bet.

Unfortunately, most of us are unable and/or unwilling to do that.

By sheer luck, most of us will be fine simply because the virus, while highly contagious is not highly fatal.

I hate to be a broken record, but these numbers mean very little until capacity for testing is greatly increased. We've been told that will be this week. We will see these numbers quickly jump over 500 then by the end of the week, we will likely be well over 1000 because we will (hopefully) be testing more cases.

I would assume the hospitalized and death amounts would be substantially well tested. Simple positives and negatives less so.

Went to Lake Olverholster today for a walk and there were a lot of people out and about. More than I usually see.

Went to Lake Olverholster today for a walk and there were a lot of people out and about. More than I usually see.

Were the guys trying to hold her closer or keep things socially distant?

Were the guys trying to hold her closer or keep things socially distant?

Couples were close. Everyone else distant.

Were the guys trying to hold her closer or keep things socially distant?

I saw what you did there.... (Lake HoldHerCloser)

I would assume the hospitalized and death amounts would be substantially well tested. Simple positives and negatives less so.

That makes sense - the big spike in positives we are expecting should actually drop the mortality rate quite a bit.

I saw what you did there.... (Lake HoldHerCloser)
That’s what everyone called it when I was in high school.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona033020a.jpg

We're still early days. but that looks like a flattening curve.

We're still early days. but that looks like a flattening curve.
But look at the negatives. Interesting that they have hardly gone up over the last 3 days. We have definitely not ramped up testing yet by any means.

52 of 54 tests coming back positive does not seem ideal, but honestly this data is somewhat useless since the OSDH isn't including negative test results from private labs for some reason. So as far as I can tell, there's really no way of knowing how much testing is actually being done in OK. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)

Here's another way to look at the #'s:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona033020d.jpg

The more I think about it, the more I really do not understand why OSDH is not including negative test results from private labs. It really makes the entire data set useless, as we have no clue how many people are actually being tested. Again, someone let me know if I'm missing something, but I've been thinking about this for 10-15 minutes now and that's the conclusion I keep coming to.

Press release:

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Oklahoma City to temporarily stop bagged trash pick-up service during COVID-19, Big Blue cart pickup to continue
03/30/2020

The Utilities Department will stop collecting bagged trash and grass clippings set out at the curb beginning Monday, April 6. From that time forward, all bagged trash, including landscape waste, must be placed inside Big Blue trash carts. Do not put grass or other trash loose in the trash carts.

The change is being made to help keep employees who handle bagged trash safe from contamination during the COVID-19 pandemic.

If a customer does not have enough Big Blue carts to accommodate all of their bagged trash or landscape trimmings, they can call Utilities Customer Service at (405) 297-2833 to order additional carts. Each customer can have up to four total Big Blue trash carts, which includes two carts that are part of regular service, and two excess carts. For the duration of the COVID-19 emergency, the Utilities Department will waive its excess cart fees. Once the emergency is declared over, customers may return the additional carts, or keep them at a monthly fee of $2.25 per cart.

If a customer sets out bagged trash alongside their two Big Blue carts, the bagged trash will not be collected, and crews will leave a reminder for residents of the new policy. Bagged trash is also not allowed to be set out for monthly bulky pick-up.

Customers who use commercial contractors for their landscape service need to ask their landscapers to carry off the landscape waste and dispose of it.

One alternative to bagging grass is to mulch it and use it for compost or allow it to sit on top of the grass as a moisture barrier. Grass is not to be swept or blown down the City’s storm drains.

For more information, or to order a cart, call Utilities Customer Service at (405) 297-2833.

The more I think about it, the more I really do not understand why OSDH is not including negative test results from private labs. It really makes the entire data set useless, as we have no clue how many people are actually being tested. Again, someone let me know if I'm missing something, but I've been thinking about this for 10-15 minutes now and that's the conclusion I keep coming to.

Even if it was from something like their process was more accurate, it seems like that could be reported as separate statistics

Even if it was from something like their process was more accurate, it seems like that could be reported as separate statistics

Agreed. Because if 52 of 54 test results are really coming back positive, that would not be good news. Obviously there have to be additional negative test results from private labs, but without knowing those numbers, it's extremely tough to draw any conclusions from the data that is being provided.

Here's another way to look at the #'s:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona033020d.jpg

I don't intend to be unduly optimistic here, but the trend of those numbers is what I would say is *cautiously encouraging*, especially those hospitalization rates.

And I agree with other posters here 100% that we should be getting ALL the results from ALL the labs, positive and negative. The overall numbers are nearly impossible to analyze without the private-lab negative result data.

Here's another way to look at the #'s:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona033020d.jpg

Way too early to declare victory but it would appear that we're at least doing something right.

Press release from the OK Dept. of Health:

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Sanitize, sanitize, sanitize!

Oklahomans are doing a great job implementing social distancing recommendations and observing guidance from state and local authorities, and while that means we are staying home and limiting our exposure to others, we still have essential needs that must be met. To meet those needs, Oklahomans still need to go to the grocery store to pick up bread and milk and eggs. We still have to put gas in the car. For others, delivery services have been critical – bringing food, toilet paper, and other items straight to our doors.

But wait. All those items that are coming into our homes, have been touched by multiple hands, traveled by plane, truck and car to reach you. But what can you do about that? You have to have these items, so how will you maintain your individual and household needs and also protect yourself from potential spread of COVID-19. Should we be worried?

Good news folks – the risk of COVID-19 spreading through your delivered groceries and bars of soap are pretty low. In fact, the CDC doesn’t recommend anything special for how you handle packages received in the mail, or that you pick up at the grocery store. The CDC does recommend you continue to observe social distance practices and remain vigilant in your personal hygiene. There are a few extra precautionary measures you can take to reduce risk even more when you are bringing goods into your home.
If you are having food delivered, avoid direct contact with the food courier by leaving payment (if needed) outside the door and instructions on where to leave your food package.
When returning from a trip to the grocery store, gas station or food pick up, be sure to immediately wash your hands and any re-useable bags you may shop with.
Don’t leave empty take out boxes on your counters or other hard surfaces, make sure they land in your sink or your trash bin.
Continue to regularly disinfect high touch areas in your home – doorknobs, faucet handles and light switches are examples.

As long as we all keep doing our part, we can continue to slow the spread and flatten the curve here in Oklahoma. Let’s do this!

What in the hell is the reason for not including test results (both +/-) in the data they're releasing?

Another thing to keep in mind is most people outside the main risk groups (elderly/immune compromised) are not being tested even though they are displaying symptoms. So in all likelihood, there are many more people running around with the Rona than are reflected in the numbers. On the positive side though, these people would be included in the death count if they had died, so the mortality rate is likely far below what is being reported.

I was looking at Texas numbers, they are showing signs of a curve flattening. I think it goes to show that social distancing is a lot more effective for city's that are more spread out.

"Per capita, our number of cases now equals where Los Angeles was on Friday."

Mayor David Holt

Press release from the OK Dept. of Health:

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Sanitize, sanitize, sanitize!

Oklahomans are doing a great job implementing social distancing recommendations and observing guidance from state and local authorities, and while that means we are staying home and limiting our exposure to others, we still have essential needs that must be met. To meet those needs, Oklahomans still need to go to the grocery store to pick up bread and milk and eggs. We still have to put gas in the car. For others, delivery services have been critical – bringing food, toilet paper, and other items straight to our doors.

But wait. All those items that are coming into our homes, have been touched by multiple hands, traveled by plane, truck and car to reach you. But what can you do about that? You have to have these items, so how will you maintain your individual and household needs and also protect yourself from potential spread of COVID-19. Should we be worried?

Good news folks – the risk of COVID-19 spreading through your delivered groceries and bars of soap are pretty low. In fact, the CDC doesn’t recommend anything special for how you handle packages received in the mail, or that you pick up at the grocery store. The CDC does recommend you continue to observe social distance practices and remain vigilant in your personal hygiene. There are a few extra precautionary measures you can take to reduce risk even more when you are bringing goods into your home.
If you are having food delivered, avoid direct contact with the food courier by leaving payment (if needed) outside the door and instructions on where to leave your food package.
When returning from a trip to the grocery store, gas station or food pick up, be sure to immediately wash your hands and any re-useable bags you may shop with.
Don’t leave empty take out boxes on your counters or other hard surfaces, make sure they land in your sink or your trash bin.
Continue to regularly disinfect high touch areas in your home – doorknobs, faucet handles and light switches are examples.

As long as we all keep doing our part, we can continue to slow the spread and flatten the curve here in Oklahoma. Let’s do this!

I figured grocery and mail would be an issue. I have been sanitizing those like wild

I figured grocery and mail would be an issue. I have been sanitizing those like wild

I don't quite understand the CDC's recommendation - if it lives on hard surfaces for up to 3 days (last I heard, that was the case), all kinds of jars and bottles at the grocery store are hard surfaces, and if someone that had the virus sneezed or coughed on them, then it's got the virus on the surface and it can be there for 3 days. And if you touch it in those 3 days, then touch your nose, mouth, or eyes, you've gotten infected. Isn't that one of the ways it's transmitted? Cardboard and paper are a different matter, heard it can only exist for hours, maybe a day on those.

I don't quite understand the CDC's recommendation - if it lives on hard surfaces for up to 3 days (last I heard, that was the case), all kinds of jars and bottles at the grocery store are hard surfaces, and if someone that had the virus sneezed or coughed on them, then it's got the virus on the surface and it can be there for 3 days. And if you touch it in those 3 days, then touch your nose, mouth, or eyes, you've gotten infected. Isn't that one of the ways it's transmitted? Cardboard and paper are a different matter, heard it can only exist for hours, maybe a day on those.

I would think they are talking about likelihood of transmission and you are talking about possibility of transmission. Meaning, it's certainly possible under your scenario, but also highly/statistically unlikely.

The virus is detectable on certain surfaces for up to 3 days, but that doesn't mean it is able to infect up to 3 days. AFAIK, scientists don't know how long this virus can live on a surface and still be infectious.

From the CDC's youtube channel, how to handle groceries and food coming in your house. (Combined with the State of Oklahoma's statement from above...mixed messages much?)

With people in my household at high risk, we aren't taking chances on splitting hairs between possibility and likely. It's easy enough to exercise caution on everything coming in. Mostly, we just quarantine it for three days, in the trunk of the car, garage or just inside the door. If it needs to go into the refrigerator we sanitize it using the above method. We haven't bought any prepared food in two or three weeks.

That means everything. And wash your hands!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR24APrwPMyRaA7S28Zd2jdJJIvDXrIbG-YL-V032djmhZMzPItC-mgZOFA

The virus is detectable on certain surfaces for up to 3 days, but that doesn't mean it is able to infect up to 3 days. AFAIK, scientists don't know how long this virus can live on a surface and still be infectious.

That makes more sense to me. It can live on surfaces but might not be infectious. Still a lot we don’t know about the virus.

Since a virus can only reproduce itself inside of a living cell, I don't think it would survive in a state that could be infectious for long outside of the human body. I'm not concerned with groceries or mail or anything. I wonder how long it can survive even on the human skin? Say you do shake someone's hand, how long could you go without washing your hands before it stops replicating itself?

Since a virus can only reproduce itself inside of a living cell, I don't think it would survive in a state that could be infectious for long outside of the human body. I'm not concerned with groceries or mail or anything. I wonder how long it can survive even on the human skin? Say you do shake someone's hand, how long could you go without washing your hands before it stops replicating itself?

Similar viruses can be to the point unlikely to transmit after a few minutes on someone's hand. Though the classic case of transmissionability of a similar virus outside the body is snot from an infected person getting on money can transmit the flu for several days.

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

MOUNT VERNON, Wash. —

With the coronavirus quickly spreading in Washington state in early March, leaders of the Skagit Valley Chorale debated whether to go ahead with weekly rehearsal.

The virus was already killing people in the Seattle area, about an hour’s drive to the south.

But Skagit County hadn’t reported any cases, schools and businesses remained open, and prohibitions on large gatherings had yet to be announced.

On March 6, Adam Burdick, the choir’s conductor, informed the 121 members in an email that amid the “stress and strain of concerns about the virus,” practice would proceed as scheduled at Mount Vernon Presbyterian Church.

“I’m planning on being there this Tuesday March 10, and hoping many of you will be, too,” he wrote.

Sixty singers showed up. A greeter offered hand sanitizer at the door, and members refrained from the usual hugs and handshakes.

“It seemed like a normal rehearsal, except that choirs are huggy places,” Burdick recalled. “We were making music and trying to keep a certain distance between each other.”

After 2½ hours, the singers parted ways at 9 p.m.

Nearly three weeks later, 45 have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or ill with the symptoms, at least three have been hospitalized, and two are dead.

The outbreak has stunned county health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.

“That’s all we can think of right now,” said Polly Dubbel, a county communicable disease and environmental health manager.

In interviews with the Los Angeles Times, eight people who were at the rehearsal said that nobody there was coughing or sneezing or appeared ill.

Everybody came with their own sheet music and avoided direct physical contact. Some members helped set up or remove folding chairs. A few helped themselves to mandarins that had been put out on a table in back.

Experts said the choir outbreak is consistent with a growing body of evidence that the virus can be transmitted through aerosols — particles smaller than 5 micrometers that can float in the air for minutes or longer.

The World Health Organization has downplayed the possibility of transmission in aerosols, stressing that the virus is spread through much larger “respiratory droplets,” which are emitted when an infected person coughs or sneezes and quickly fall to a surface.

But a study published March 17 in the New England Journal of Medicine found that when the virus was suspended in a mist under laboratory conditions it remained “viable and infectious” for three hours — though researchers have said that time period would probably be no more than a half-hour in real-world conditions.

One of the authors of that study, Jamie Lloyd-Smith, a UCLA infectious disease researcher, said it’s possible that the forceful breathing action of singing dispersed viral particles in the church room that were widely inhaled.

“One could imagine that really trying to project your voice would also project more droplets and aerosols,” he said.

With three-quarters of the choir members testing positive for the virus or showing symptoms of infection, the outbreak would be considered a “super-spreading event,” he said.

Linsey Marr, an environmental engineer at Virginia Tech and an expert on airborne transmission of viruses, said some people happen to be especially good at exhaling fine material, producing 1,000 times more than others.

Marr said that the choir outbreak should be seen as a powerful warning to the public.

“This may help people realize that, hey, we really need to be careful,” she said. <You think?

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

wow... 121 people in close proximity for an extended period of time during which they deeply and continuously move air into and out of their lungs... seems like a worst-case virus inoculation scenario.

wow... 121 people in close proximity for an extended period of time during which they deeply and continuously move air into and out of their lungs... seems like a worst-case virus inoculation scenario.

^That just about describes the last Homeland I was in,

Unacceptable: Oklahoma City families tear down caution tape around closed playgrounds.

https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-city-families-tear-down-caution-tape-around-closed-playgrounds/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Unacceptable: Oklahoma City families tear down caution tape around closed playgrounds.

https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-city-families-tear-down-caution-tape-around-closed-playgrounds/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

Willfull violation? Fine their butts.

From the CDC's youtube channel, how to handle groceries and food coming in your house. (Combined with the State of Oklahoma's statement from above...mixed messages much?)

With people in my household at high risk, we aren't taking chances on splitting hairs between possibility and likely. It's easy enough to exercise caution on everything coming in. Mostly, we just quarantine it for three days, in the trunk of the car, garage or just inside the door. If it needs to go into the refrigerator we sanitize it using the above method. We haven't bought any prepared food in two or three weeks.

That means everything. And wash your hands!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR24APrwPMyRaA7S28Zd2jdJJIvDXrIbG-YL-V032djmhZMzPItC-mgZOFA

I have some problems with this video. First, if you are seriously disinfecting something from a grocery store (or anywhere else), you set up an *external* "contaminated* zone, a sterilization area, then a " clean" area. No items from the contaminated area go to the clean area without being sterilized. The *right* process is to remove each item from the bag in the external area, clean it (sudsy soap and water with a rough towel or rag), THEN place it in the "clean" zone for someone else to move into the house. Bags *never* come into the house and are discarded. The most at-risk surfaces would be any hard, non-porous containers like glass jars or bottles, and secondarily smooth cardboard containers. Paper containers, like sugar and flour, are least risk, but can also be handled by simply sitting in the sunlight for a time. You then decontaminate the car with wipes and lysol, and even deposit clothes worn to the contaimated area directly to the washer to be laundered. Finish by spraying shoes with Lysol.

Yes, my mom's cleaning instincts finally kicked in. You could do heart surgery on her kitchen countertop.

If you are taking groceries to an elderly or immunocompromised person, I'd darned sure err on the side of safety.

wow... 121 people in close proximity for an extended period of time during which they deeply and continuously move air into and out of their lungs... seems like a worst-case virus inoculation scenario.

Fortunately, around 700 people present on March 12 for Stillwater Jazz Band with Emily Sutton apparently has not resulted in mass cases, even though the band conductor started off saying, "Wow, look at this. These are the bravest people in the world. And dumbest."

http://okie.world/photos/Emily4small.jpg

Unacceptable: Oklahoma City families tear down caution tape around closed playgrounds.

https://kfor.com/news/local/oklahoma-city-families-tear-down-caution-tape-around-closed-playgrounds/?utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook

https://www.okctalk.com/blob:https://www.okctalk.com/fd8676fb-6639-42c8-8fc3-3fe53012674f

The online accounts I've seen of people jamming Lowe's locations, Home Depot, and other big-box retailers have me petrified. Add to that Governor Stittiot's county-by-county approach to containment, which, as dumb as it is, is further undermined by his robust exemptions to the federally determined "non-essential" list: he is exempting virtually every retail establishment in the state. This is a waking nightmare. Stitt has Oklahoma following the Italy model, albeit with a much dumber population. The next two to three weeks will be telling.

Willfull violation? Fine their butts.

They don't believe that the City will enforce it, and they are unable to regulate themselves. If a law is worth having it is worth being enforced.

wow... 121 people in close proximity for an extended period of time during which they deeply and continuously move air into and out of their lungs... seems like a worst-case virus inoculation scenario.

The article says only 60 showed up to the rehearsal, which to me is even more sobering. That was completely irresponsible on the choir director’s part.

The online accounts I've seen of people jamming Lowe's locations, Home Depot, and other big-box retailers have me petrified. Add to that Governor Stittiot's county-by-county approach to containment, which, as dumb as it is, is further undermined by his robust exemptions to the federally determined "non-essential" list: he is exempting virtually every retail establishment in the state. This is a waking nightmare. Stitt has Oklahoma following the Italy model, albeit with a much dumber population. The next two to three weeks will be telling.

The jury is still out on how dangerous this actually is - that's a fact. For all the talk of high transmission rates, the mortality rate seems to be pretty low since those catching the virus outside the high risk groups are not being tested now, it is very likely the vast majority of people have caught the virus but not had symptoms necessitating medical care. The point of flattening the curve is to reduce the strain on medical services while still developing heard immunity, which is the real key to ending alleviating the situation, unless you want to hide in your closet until a vaccine arrives. The fact that certain portions of the media are whipping up a panic does not change the fact that for tested populations, those displaying symptom bad enough to need medical attention, the mortality rate is running at less than 1%.

The jury is still out on how dangerous this actually is - that's a fact. For all the talk of high transmission rates, the mortality rate seems to be pretty low since those catching the virus outside the high risk groups are not being tested now, it is very likely the vast majority of people have caught the virus but not had symptoms necessitating medical care. The point of flattening the curve is to reduce the strain on medical services while still developing heard immunity, which is the real key to ending alleviating the situation, unless you want to hide in your closet until a vaccine arrives. The fact that certain portions of the media are whipping up a panic does not change the fact that for tested populations, those displaying symptom bad enough to need medical attention, the mortality rate is running at less than 1%.

No sources cited for any of your claims. Sounds like this belongs in the political COVID-19 discussion.

Fortunately, around 700 people present on March 12 for Stillwater Jazz Band with Emily Sutton apparently has not resulted in mass cases, even though the band conductor started off saying, "Wow, look at this. These are the bravest people in the world. And dumbest."

http://okie.world/photos/Emily4small.jpg

Its probably what the choir did between singing that caused the greatest spread. Touching handles in bathrooms, hugging, food and drinks, etc.

No sources cited for any of your claims. Sounds like this belongs in the political COVID-19 discussion.

Yeah, this whole thing is pretty political, like people's views on COVID 19 seem to be tied to their political affiliation, which is kind of strange right? I didn't think I pointed out anything other than common sense but here are some BBC graphs on the mortality rate - the entire article is linked below and discusses the difficulty in determining the actual mortality rate, spoiler: most people have none to mild symptoms and don't go to the doctor. One of the reason Germany's quoted mortality rate is so low is their high testing capacity- they are actually testing people with mild symptoms as opposed to the US where testing hasn't ramped up to their level. At any rate, it's worth a look.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51674743