https://nypost.com/2020/11/19/oklahoma-megachurch-to-host-thanksgiving-meal-despite-covid-19/amp/

Speechless....

LOOK AT THIS PIC. Same church, THIS WEEK.

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In case this wasn't already covered elsewhere:
Stitt on his holiday plans (AP News) (https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-health-oklahoma-coronavirus-pandemic-b15539f4136d0b730077fdd841dbb06c)

LOOK AT THIS PIC. Same church, THIS WEEK.

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Unbelievable. There's being stupid and then there's REALLY being stupid.

In case this wasn't already covered elsewhere:
Stitt on his holiday plans (AP News) (https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-health-oklahoma-coronavirus-pandemic-b15539f4136d0b730077fdd841dbb06c)

good for him life is too short to live it scared ..

good for him life is too short to live it scared ..

You are the biggest moron on this site, and the main reason I rarely read it anymore. It really sucks that a lot of Oklahomans think like you. The exact reason we are in this current mess.

Damn near criminal. This will cause deaths not only for those that attended but also for those that didn’t. Replying about the church gathering.

good for him life is too short to live it scared ..

Massively irresponsible of him. As the governor he should be setting a better example for the state with his personal choices.

Apparently he doesn't mind having more blood on his hands.

You are the biggest moron on this site, and the main reason I rarely read it anymore. It really sucks that a lot of Oklahomans think like you. The exact reason we are in this current mess.

BoulderSooner just loves to stir the pot and get people to fly into outrage.

I'd highly encourage you to put him on your 'ignore' list if he bothers you so much.

You are the biggest moron on this site, and the main reason I rarely read it anymore. It really sucks that a lot of Oklahomans think like you. The exact reason we are in this current mess.
This. He's an idiot.

In case this wasn't already covered elsewhere:
Stitt on his holiday plans (AP News) (https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-health-oklahoma-coronavirus-pandemic-b15539f4136d0b730077fdd841dbb06c)

I really am starting to dislike this guy (stitt). I feel like he's a tier above trump at this point for politicians that don't need to be in power.

However, I believe I'm in the minority in oklahoma with that opinion.

BoulderSooner just loves to stir the pot and get people to fly into outrage.

I'd highly encourage you to put him on your 'ignore' list if he bothers you so much.

Yep, this. I finally did, and reading OKCTalk is so much nicer now, it's not worth losing the massive amount of information this site has just because of one ***hole (and, yes, I'd bet the same is said about me, I have no illusions about being one too :)).

speaking the truth gets you called a "moron" "***hole" and an "idiot"

hmmm

speaking the truth gets you called a "moron" "***hole" and an "idiot"

hmmm

i don't think you actually understand the meaning of the word truth...

but back on to OKC. it looks like a bunch of businesses are actually responding to Holts please. hopefully this does work

speaking the truth gets you called a "moron" "***hole" and an "idiot"

hmmm

Pete just *literally* described you as a troll. Trolls are ***holes, idiots and morons.

speaking the truth gets you called a "moron" "***hole" and an "idiot"

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The *truth* hurts.

speaking the truth gets you called a "moron" "***hole" and an "idiot"

hmmm

Don't confuse "truth" with "opinion".

In case this wasn't already covered elsewhere:
Stitt on his holiday plans (AP News) (https://apnews.com/article/pandemics-health-oklahoma-coronavirus-pandemic-b15539f4136d0b730077fdd841dbb06c)

That's what you get when you elect a fundie Mr. Potter. George Bailey's Alternate Universe. No petals for Zuzu.

110 Oklahomans have been reported dead in the past 7 days, the most all time during this pandemic. Stay safe guys.

2,921 new cases today. 7-day rolling average is now 2,843, an all-time high.

15 more reported deaths; 7-day rolling average is an all-time high of 15.7.

Hospitalizations are 1,428 (+47), 6 short of the all-time high from two days ago.

ICU is 421 (+32), 26 short of the all-time high from two days ago.

good for him life is too short to live it scared ..

I'm sure all of the burnt out medical staff who have been working for days on end appreciate hearing from their patients that they just didn't want to live scared.

I'm sure all of the burnt out medical staff who have been working for days on end appreciate hearing from their patients that they just didn't want to live scared.

+1

The unfortunate fact is we live in a state where a substantial portion of the people think like BoulderSooner and simply don't care about their fellow Oklahomans. It's a genuine selfishness that they are proud to flaunt because they think it's a merit badge that shows they aren't controlled by the government, Even when others are dying around them and they can help prevent needless suffering, they double down and reveal just how callous their selfishness is.

The only thing that will save us is the vaccine because we cannot rely on our fellow citizens to do their part.

Did the mayor indicate in his presser yesterday if he was going to be celebrating with immediate family only?

LOOK AT THIS PIC. Same church, THIS WEEK.

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These are the people Stitt listens to. No one else. He doesn't listen to medical leaders. He doesn't listen to front-line workers. He doesn't listen to the business community. He doesn't listen to scientists and experts. He doesn't listen to the mayors of the state's largest cities. Are you seeing a trend here?

Governor Kevin Stitt is best represented by the people in the photo. That is his base.

You are the biggest moron on this site, and the main reason I rarely read it anymore. It really sucks that a lot of Oklahomans think like you. The exact reason we are in this current mess.

Just so you know, New Mexico has taken the exact opposite approach as Oklahoma.

3800 cases yesterday in a state half the size and has been locked down the entire time except for September and October.

Nothings working.

Just so you know, New Mexico has taken the exact opposite approach as Oklahoma.

3800 cases yesterday in a state half the size and has been locked down the entire time except for September and October.

Yeah, but until then, their case numbers as a state looked more like Oklahoma County's numbers. In hind sight, they had it under control.

And again, it doesn't matter really what the rules are, it's if they are followed. If people just gave a crap, we wouldn't even need mandates.

Just one more effort at ultimate stupidity. Today "Cookies" opened where an Arby's was on NW Exp near Portland. Their website says they are a "cannabis and culture store". My wife texted me at noon on her way home and said they had a LINE outside waiting to get in. At 4:45 on my way home they still do. Distancing looks pretty good but I saw very few masks. All for pot. Damn!!!!!!!

Just so you know, New Mexico has taken the exact opposite approach as Oklahoma.

3800 cases yesterday in a state half the size and has been locked down the entire time except for September and October.

Nothings working.

This is not true. New Mexico did utilize a mask mandate, but they certainly didn't do the exact opposite as us, which would be a lockdown of all but essential services. They only implemented such a lockdown earlier this week.

They're also dealing with a dire situation in the Navajo Nation.

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i don't think you actually understand the meaning of the word truth...

but back on to OKC. it looks like a bunch of businesses are actually responding to Holts please. hopefully this does work

Please don't quote BoulderSooner. I've had been protecting myself by blocking him for years and you're making me see his posts by quoting him. Thank you for flattening the curve of BoulderSooner posts and thinking of the larger community.

As of this evening:

Hospitalizations are up to 1,505 (+77), a new record by a fair margin.

ICU is 450 (+29), another record high.

Here's one thing I think everyone should keep an eye on: Is Oklahoma prepared to distribute the vaccine once we receive it? We will likely get a few hundred thousand doses in mid December, but there is significant concern that the state does not have the process and tools in place to distribute the supply to the administration points. If you look at the plan the state submitted to the CDC, it's primarily vague, placeholder language. The state's leadership (e.g., Gov. Stitt and Commissioner Frye) has also struggled mightily to prepare.

Here's one thing I think everyone should keep an eye on: Is Oklahoma prepared to distribute the vaccine once we receive it? We will likely get a few hundred thousand doses in mid December, but there is significant concern that the state does not have the process and tools in place to distribute the supply to the administration points. If you look at the plan the state submitted to the CDC, it's primarily vague, placeholder language. The state's leadership (e.g., Gov. Stitt and Commissioner Frye) has also struggled mightily to prepare.

I've basically resigned myself to the fact that I'll have to drive down to the DFW Metroplex if I want to get the vaccine at the earliest time that it's being distributed to the general public. I have zero confidence that this state is going to be prepared to distribute it efficiently.

I've basically resigned myself to the fact that I'll have to drive down to the DFW Metroplex if I want to get the vaccine at the earliest time that it's being distributed to the general public. I have zero confidence that this state is going to be prepared to distribute it efficiently.

There was a report this evening on the news that was talking a little about this. Apparently, there are very few, if any at all, freezers that can get cold enough to store Pfizer’s vaccine. Area hospitals are currently putting in orders for this equipment. I suspect some delays related to that unfortunately.

I've basically resigned myself to the fact that I'll have to drive down to the DFW Metroplex if I want to get the vaccine at the earliest time that it's being distributed to the general public. I have zero confidence that this state is going to be prepared to distribute it efficiently.

I fully expect that unless there is a centralized delivery system that private docs will simply ignore all guidelines and this will be distributed first to anyone who can afford it.

There was a report this evening on the news that was talking a little about this. Apparently, there are very few, if any at all, freezers that can get cold enough to store Pfizer’s vaccine. Area hospitals are currently putting in orders for this equipment. I suspect some delays related to that unfortunately.

This is the kind of cold storage needed:

Moderna’s vaccine has to be shipped at –20 degrees Celsius (–4 degrees Fahrenheit), and it can then be stored at that temperature for six months. Once thawed and kept in a refrigerator between two and eight degrees C (36 to 46 degrees F) it is good for up to 30 days. Pfizer’s vaccine must be kept at –70 degrees C (–94 degrees F)—a much greater challenge. Once transferred to a refrigerator, it must be administered within five days.

I fully expect that unless there is a centralized delivery system that private docs will simply ignore all guidelines and this will be distributed first to anyone who can afford it.

There will be a centralized delivery system, coordinated through the CDC and McKesson, so private docs, as you call them, will not be able to get their hands on the vaccine until the tier 1 and 2 population has been vaccinated.

I just looked at Worldmeter, the USA number of cases without Nebraska is over 201000 new cases today. Oh no....

Oklahoma City County Health Department has a pretty good plan and has been working hard on being ready. We are one of their administration partners, and I’m in constant communication with them.

That’s part of what makes this frustrating now. I know people are tired and worn out and have the good old pandemic precaution fatigue. But we’re not looking at a scenario of doing all this for some unknown point of time in the future with no end in sight. We have companies putting in applications for approval now, we are planning out the mass vaccination sites, we have a plan and a fairly solid timeframe. To quote some superhero movie: we are in the endgame now.

Oklahoma City County Health Department has a pretty good plan and has been working hard on being ready. We are one of their administration partners, and I’m in constant communication with them.

That’s part of what makes this frustrating now. I know people are tired and worn out and have the good old pandemic precaution fatigue. But we’re not looking at a scenario of doing all this for some unknown point of time in the future with no end in sight. We have companies putting in applications for approval now, we are planning out the mass vaccination sites, we have a plan and a fairly solid timeframe. To quote some superhero movie: we are in the endgame now.

Good luck on the vaccine. Zero chance I'll be in line for one.

Good luck on the vaccine. Zero chance I'll be in line for one.
There should be enough of us that will to make it work. And for those that won't you'll just be taking your chances.

3,663 new cases today. 7-day rolling average now a record 2,960.

21 additional deaths reported.

Hospitalizations at 1,505 (+77), a record by a fair margin.

ICU is 450 (+29), another record.


We have almost quadrupled the number of new daily cases in just 6 weeks.

The OSDH is now allowing asymptomatic covid-19 positive nurses continue to work in hospitals. This is the dire situation we’re in.

The OSDH is now allowing asymptomatic covid-19 positive nurses continue to work in hospitals. This is the dire situation we’re in.

Incredibly stupid. Do the nurses *have* to work, or do they *want* to? Do they not have sick leave or other paid time off, can they just not show up and be docked for their pay? If I was a positive asymptomatic nurse, the *last* thing I'd personally want to do is possibly contribute to the spread.

Incredibly stupid. Do the nurses *have* to work, or do they *want* to? Do they not have sick leave or other paid time off, can they just not show up and be docked for their pay? If I was a positive asymptomatic nurse, the *last* thing I'd personally want to do is possibly contribute to the spread.
Are they just treating Covid patients? If so, where’s the danger?

Are they just treating Covid patients? If so, where’s the danger?

That relates to what I was asking. Do they?

Are they just treating Covid patients? If so, where’s the danger?

The danger is in potentially infecting other doctors and nurses. The ONA has come out against this move already.

Are they just treating Covid patients? If so, whereÂ’s the danger?

I'm dead serious, and I am not being facetious at all when I ask: Do you understand how infectious diseases work?

Or maybe, (very facetiously), do you think there's an island where we're sending these positive health care workers so they can only work with positive patients alongside positive physicians?

Incredibly stupid. Do the nurses *have* to work, or do they *want* to? Do they not have sick leave or other paid time off, can they just not show up and be docked for their pay? If I was a positive asymptomatic nurse, the *last* thing I'd personally want to do is possibly contribute to the spread.

The thing is that most health care workers don't really differentiate between "have" to or "want" to when it comes to helping people.

And everyone has sick leave for COVID reason right now. The CARES act dictates it. But that's ending soon. It's in Congress's hands in about a month to decide whether that continues.

And everyone has sick leave for COVID reason right now. The CARES act dictates it. But that's ending soon. It's in Congress's hands in about a month to decide whether that continues.
Unfortunately not the case. Healthcare workers are excluded, as well as private businesses with more than 500 people.

The thing is that most health care workers don't really differentiate between "have" to or "want" to when it comes to helping people.

And everyone has sick leave for COVID reason right now. The CARES act dictates it. But that's ending soon. It's in Congress's hands in about a month to decide whether that continues.

GTK about the sick leave, but unfortunate that health care workers are excluded.

And yeah, for health care docs, nurses, etc., it's kind of a calling-type of thing, so that's kind of why I asked. If they're super-short-staffed, and a nurse is asymptomatic, they probably feel like they should be there doing their job alongside their colleagues and trying to not let people die. But *should* they be there when they're asymptomatic, what's the priority... Not easy.

Hopefully, it goes without saying that people need to take precautions more than ever from the virus and not trust their luck. Even a fireman can get covid so bad that he has been on life support in the hospital for days:

https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/residents-rallying-around-firefighters-battle-with-covid-19/article_9ce2f923-dd30-5313-bfe1-f0f346df7819.html

Unfortunately not the case. Healthcare workers are excluded, as well as private businesses with more than 500 people.

Bummer that paid sick leave is so difficult to come by. Incentive should be in place be to limit infected persons from infecting others, no matter the size of organization.

Hopefully, it goes without saying that people need to take precautions more than ever from the virus and not trust their luck. Even a fireman can get covid so bad that he has been on life support in the hospital for days:

https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/residents-rallying-around-firefighters-battle-with-covid-19/article_9ce2f923-dd30-5313-bfe1-f0f346df7819.html
Just a note, the term is firefighter, Not all firefighters are men. I'm retired from Edmond. But yes, its bad. Not all firefighters are under 50, there are a few older ones. Even the younger ones can get an extremely bad case. I read on some of my firefighter news pages that firefighters are dying of covid.

3,406 new cases today. 7-day rolling average now 2,886 down slightly from yesterday's all-time high.

10 additional reported deaths. 7-day rolling average now 15.1; all-time high is 15.7.


Hopsitalizations/ICU won't report until Monday night.

It feels like it was so recent that 1,000+ was uncommon and we were stunned when we passed 2,000 for the first time...

It feels like it was so recent that 1,000+ was uncommon and we were stunned when we passed 2,000 for the first time...It wasn't that long ago.

But then I remember telling my wife that when the state hit 1000 total cases we'd take it seriously and stop going out. That seems like ancient history.

I'm actually proud of our Church today. Last Christmas they had, if I remember right, 7 or 8 Christmas "Eve" services starting on the 22nd. Probably 14 or 15 thousand people total. This year they are going online only by recording one service and putting it on the web around the 22nd to watch anytime you want. Such a responsible and though thing to do.

So, let's look at numbers based on outcome of a masked vs an unmasked city in Oklahoma:

Masks required: Lawton pop. 93,714, total positive cases: 2762, total deaths: 25

Masks not required: Enid pop. 50,122, total positive cases: 3055, total deaths: 33

It abundantly clear, a mask mandate has worked.

Edmond pop. 94,000, Late mandate that many ignore, total positive cases 6476, total deaths 35. It works if people will follow it. Edmond's needs some endorsement

Top Canadian Pathologist On COVID: 'Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated'

https://www.bitchute.com/video/FDHQAE2utrXL/