We did the Trick & Treat rounds in our neighborhood. Fewer houses than usual, which is to be expected. I’m sure lots of at-risk households are sitting this one out. Mask wear was good by folks, lots of candy slides and other attempts at social distances candy delivery systems.

It was a balance between being completely safe, and giving the kids at least a small sense of “normal”.

Vietnam actually isnt that strict for the most part because I've bee stuck in Saigon for most of this year. They did do a pretty tight lockdown in part of the country March and most of April. Most places complied with it and all restaurants were take out only or they could seat 3 people inside the restaurant.

Pretty much all bars were closed tòo although some bars did ignore this because they would bribe the police. It was pretty rare though and I only know of a few that did this. People could still go out and do things but there was absolutely no where to go I basically worked online and sat in the park drinking beer and ignoring people shooting up.

There has also been a mask mandate since March but people dont follow it as much now. Maybe 80% of people wear mask. Its not draconian as you think it would be and nothing close to china (a lot of people stayed inside for months). Basically Vietnam didnt trust China and shut down flights right away and they did the same with europe after too many people showed up sick. They are lying about the numberbof deaths but it coudnt be too many because it would be obvious.

So far the had one full lockdown and another partial lockdown in August when most cities closed all bars, massage parlors and karaoke's. They acted quickly because it came from China and a lot of people in Vietnam dont like China so they actually listened to their government.

Most people arent acting like idiots despite the lower levels of hygeine and way fewer resources than most high income countries. Remember when I posted earlier in this thread and a bunch of people brushed off what I had to say. I lived in China for like 5 years and people still brushed off what I said and our leaders willingly chose to let people die. They even encouraged it so no wonder we are in this position.

Appreciate your insights!

It was a balance between being completely safe, and giving the kids at least a small sense of “normal”.

Except this year instead of the "normal" razor blades in the candy you have to worry about, it could be contaminated with a deadly virus instead!

The strip in Stillwater was busy for Halloween night. At least 4 bars had a line out the door. Only a few people were wearing masks. Didn't want to see what it was like inside.

State epidemiologist's analysis demonstrates success of local mask ordinances. Enid, which does not require mask wear, is only 31 cases behind in surpassing Stillwater for cases.
https://tulsaworld.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/state-epidemiologists-analysis-demonstrates-success-of-local-mask-ordinances/article_b7df00fa-1a57-11eb-8cdc-db8e04412c3d.html#tracking-source=home-top-story

1,349 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 1,054.

8 more deaths reported.

1,267 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 1,011.

11 additional deaths; 7-day rolling average just over 13, which is an all-time high.

Hospitalizations 852 (-13); all-time high is 956.

ICU 322 (+21), an all-time high.

Pete, forgive me for this question, but I haven't followed this thread very closely. Are the quoted ICU numbers total ICU beds or total COVID ICU beds? If COVID ICU beds does this mean that if you go to the ICU with COVID you have about a 5% chance of death? Can anyone help clarify these questions for me?

Pete, forgive me for this question, but I haven't followed this thread very closely. Are the quoted ICU numbers total ICU beds or total COVID ICU beds? If COVID ICU beds does this mean that if you go to the ICU with COVID you have about a 5% chance of death? Can anyone help clarify these questions for me?

Where are you getting the 5% number? Perhaps I am wrong, but I thought the survival chances are more dire once you enter the ICU. Perhaps I’m confusing ICU admissions with folks on ventilators.

Where are you getting the 5% number? Perhaps I am wrong, but I thought the survival chances are more dire once you enter the ICU. Perhaps I’m confusing ICU admissions with folks on ventilators.

13/332= 4%. I rounded up to 5%.

The strip in Stillwater was busy for Halloween night. At least 4 bars had a line out the door. Only a few people were wearing masks. Didn't want to see what it was like inside.

Watching the football game it looked like quite a few didn’t even have a mask around their neck. Knew it would be a wild one on Gameday and Halloween.

1,084 new cases today; 7-day rolling average is now 1,114.

9 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average almost 15, which is an all-time high.


We won't know about hospitalizations and ICU counts until this evening.

Watching the football game it looked like quite a few didn’t even have a mask around their neck. Knew it would be a wild one on Gameday and Halloween.That's how I saw pretty much every football game Saturday. Fans and a lot of assistant coaches/trainers/staff/etc. on the sidelines don't even appear to have a mask with them all over the country. And many games may only have say 20-25 percent capacity but I also see a lot of upper level and end zone sections empty and lower level field side sections way too full.

That's how I saw pretty much every football game Saturday. Fans and a lot of assistant coaches/trainers/staff/etc. on the sidelines don't even appear to have a mask with them all over the country. And many games may only have say 20-25 percent capacity but I also see a lot of upper level and end zone sections empty and lower level field side sections way too full.

Yeah, I'm curious how many of these cases are related to football games.

Saw an article yesterday that said most americans have no idea where or how they got covid. That same study also said the contact tracing is failing as the community spread is out of control at this point. Ugh...

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The Oklahoman routinely posts photos of high school football crowds and virtually none of the spectators are wearing masks and most are not socially distanced.

And it's the same for all the college student sections.

When you consider the number of games at those levels across the country, that has to be abetting the spread.

Not to mention that football coaches are terrible examples of mask-wearing for people around the country. They take off the masks every time they talk to someone... that's when it's most important to be wearing your mask. It's been disappointing that universities—places of education—don't seem to care the example their representatives set.

After much contemplation, I decided to cancel my annual big family Thanksgiving.

We have almost 20 between my four sisters and their kids and grandkids, and my siblings and I are all over 60 or very close.

I usually make a big deal out of it and I have a huge dining table where we can all sit together.... So, a major bummer not to celebrate in one place.

But I just read that Canada's Thanksgiving on Oct. 12th turned into a super-spreader and that is going to happen here as well. The worst possible thing would be to end up in the hospital as the tight supply of beds is only going to get worse.

Tulsa now top 10 in ventilator use. https://www.publicradiotulsa.org/post/tulsa-metro-national-top-ten-icu-bed-ventilator-utilization-federal-report?nopop=1#stream/0

11/2/2020
974 persons hospitalized (+122 from Friday)
336 in ICU (+14 from Friday)
Both are new records.

14.6% of current hospitalizations statewide are covid-related

This has got to get turned around soon. Somehow.

Good God, a new hospital record!? I've been without power for almost a week.. but I have a really bad feeling about the effects of the storm and power outage on the coming cases & deaths My elderly neighbor went to stay with a friend. Parents had my siblings stay with them for a few nights. Not to mention Halloween. I would expect to have some effect, even if small. And voting. So many lined up for hours for early voting, and of course tomorrow we'll have many, many more voting in person. The time change is another big factor that increases indoors time in my personal experience. Then of course... Thanksgiving.

Yeah given the nature of these spikes in the past, and the overall holiday schedule, I don't think we see this thing peak for another few weeks at the earliest, and probably don't hit pre-wave numbers until February

After much contemplation, I decided to cancel my annual big family Thanksgiving.

We have almost 20 between my four sisters and their kids and grandkids, and my siblings and I are all over 60 or very close.

I usually make a big deal out of it and I have a huge dining table where we can all sit together.... So, a major bummer not to celebrate in one place.

But I just read that Canada's Thanksgiving on Oct. 12th turned into a super-spreader and that is going to happen here as well. The worst possible thing would be to end up in the hospital as the tight supply of beds is only going to get worse.

I do not blame you for cancelling your big family Thanksgiving, it really sucks but better safe than sorry

Hospitalizations are now at 974 (+122), an all-time high by a fair margin.

Same for ICU: 336 (+14).


PLEASE be careful out there. There may be no room at the inn.

From what I’m seeing and hearing from various polling places across the city is that there is very little, if any, social distancing occurring. Little mask use too, from the areas I have heard about.

All this combined with long wait times indoors will spawn a major super spreader event, I’m afraid.

I voted at First Methodist Church downtown this morning. Long lines, but everybody was masked and everybody was social distancing. It took about an hour to get to vote.

From what I’m seeing and hearing from various polling places across the city is that there is very little, if any, social distancing occurring. Little mask use too, from the areas I have heard about.

All this combined with long wait times indoors will spawn a major super spreader event, I’m afraid.

people should be wearing masks in line but it can't be mandated ..

I passed by two polling places and there were long lines outside. I don't know about inside. But what I did see were most all wearing masks and distancing. I was actually pretty surprised.

What’s it like inside? Are they limiting how many people are going in?

1,331 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 1,160.

21 additional deaths, 1 off our all-time high. 7-day rolling average now 14.6, an all-time high.


As previously posted, both hospitalizations and ICU are at all-time highs as of last evening.

What’s it like inside? Are they limiting how many people are going in?

So at my place the voters seemed to be doing the limiting on their own. The check in spot was right inside the door, and there was an x about 10 feet back, that people were waiting at until they were called up to check in. Everyone else was lined up from there, and there were about 12 of the voting stands setup, spread out into a larger area than is normally used at this location. For me it was a pretty quick in and out, and took about half an hour at 10:30. Everyone but one jerk was wearing a mask, and that one person made a big show of carrying it in their hand until they signed in, put it on for 30 seconds, and then immediately (and very loudly and obviously) took the mask right off before filling out their ballot and submitting it and stomping out huffing and puffing giving everyone in line dirty looks. Most of the line just broke out in laughter at their immature display. These people really are sad.

1,331 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 1,160.

21 additional deaths, 1 off our all-time high. 7-day rolling average now 14.6, an all-time high.


As previously posted, both hospitalizations and ICU are at all-time highs as of last evening.

It's a real problem that the death rate is rising in Oklahoma, especially given how much more we know about the virus and the treatment options now compared to March. We are actually doing better caring for the sickest patients, so this death rise is beyond alarming.

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It's purely a function of more infections.

The number of positive cases is way higher than any other time and hospitalizations and deaths always follow.

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It's purely a function of more infections.

The number of positive cases is way higher than any other time and hospitalizations and deaths always follow.

Yes, I am aware and that's why I say it's beyond alarming.

What's really alarming is the average deaths line is climbing at a higher rate than the average case line was a month ago which is supposed to be about the lag time. And there's been no undulation in the average deaths line for awhile. It's just climbing. That's very scary.

Everyone in line near 23rd and Classen was masked up and distancing which was good to see.

I voted at First Methodist Church downtown this morning. Long lines, but everybody was masked and everybody was social distancing. It took about an hour to get to vote.

Same for me.
My only question was they only had the one set of doors open, they could have made one "in" & the set "out". Took me about an hour as well. They were sanitizing pens, and it seemed like voters were doing their part to mask up and distance

Completely unscientific but if everyone would take proper COVID precautions I would expect the flu numbers to be very low. Judging by the rapid spread of COVID it seems to be much more contagious than the flu.

Much more contagious than the flu. I wonder how doctors are going to handle it this winter. Flu test first than if negative covid test or are they going to go for a covid test first if you negative they will just say you have the flu. I would think flu test first though as you get results same day. However can you test positive for both the flu and covid? I imagine you can

11/3/2020
1026 persons hospitalized (+52 from yesterday)
349 in ICU (+13 from yesterday)

17.3% of current hospitalizations statewide are covid-related

I don't have words for how scary this is.

Holy cow!! Just saw a news report from bice’s watch party, and wherever they are is packed full of people. I only saw the news anchor and a small number of other people wearing masks. Can you say, super spreader event. We have learned nothing from what happened in the White House.

Hospitalizations are now 1,026 (+52), surpassing yesterday's all-time high. The number has almost doubled in the last 6 weeks.

ICU at 349 (+13) another all-time high.

Holy cow!! Just saw a news report from bice’s watch party, and wherever they are is packed full of people. I only saw the news anchor and a small number of other people wearing masks. Can you say, super spreader event. We have learned nothing from what happened in the White House.Inhofe's was the same way. Packed room with only a couple mask wearers. So sad and frustrating.

I'm reaching a point where some days I just don't care about anyone but me and mine. If people don't care why should I care about them. My wife doesn't leave the house except for work and anywhere I go I soak in sanitizer, wear one of my N95 masks, stay as far away from people as possible and don't stay anywhere any longer than absolutely necessary. So I'm reasonably sure we're safe.

Then I come back to my senses and know I'm just not wired to not care about people.

1,246 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 1,231.

17 additional deaths; 7-day rolling average now 15.1, an all-time high.

As previously posted, hospitalizations and ICU are both at all-time highs.

With the election getting all of the attention I think a lot of people missed that the US had over 100k new cases today. Scary.

It’s November 3rd, why are there still cases?

It’s November 3rd, why are there still cases?
On the Oklahoma Source FB page every few posts asks why the virus is still around today. It's amazing people actually believe something like this could be contrived.

Holy cow!! Just saw a news report from bice’s watch party, and wherever they are is packed full of people. I only saw the news anchor and a small number of other people wearing masks. Can you say, super spreader event. We have learned nothing from what happened in the White House.

Gross, and completely predictable. She will embarrass our city in DC with her anti-science views.

Ok folks. We’re past the easy holiday for the rest of the year. We have started the Thanksgiving planning discussion last night. All of our families are in Oklahoma in rural areas. Sooo....

How are you guys handling thanksgiving this year?

Ok folks. We’re past the easy holiday for the rest of the year. We have started the Thanksgiving planning discussion last night. All of our families are in Oklahoma in rural areas. Sooo....

How are you guys handling thanksgiving this year?

we are having it with close family which will put it around 15 instead of the usual 35-40

Ok folks. We’re past the easy holiday for the rest of the year. We have started the Thanksgiving planning discussion last night. All of our families are in Oklahoma in rural areas. Sooo....

How are you guys handling thanksgiving this year?We've never had a close extended family. Just the core. Since mom reached a point a couple years ago that she doesn't know when we're there or not we just stopped having a family Thanksgiving at all. So my wife and I get a small turkey breast and small versions of all the other stuff we like and I make us a Thanksgiving feast for 2.

wow cases today over 2,000 smh

wow cases today over 2,000 smh

I can't even any more. I feel like it will take everyone marching on the capitol to get our leaders to take the measures they need to at this point (which would turn into it's own super spreader event). I'm terrified what December is going to look like, especially after the Thanksgiving bump.

2,101 (!!) new cases today; 7-day rolling average 1,383, an all-time high.

21 more deaths, the 2nd highest one-day total ever. 7-day rolling average 15.3, an all-time high.

Hospitalizations 1,055 (+29) an all-time high.

ICU 337 (-12) down from yesterday's all-time high.

2,101 (!!) new cases today; 7-day rolling average 1,383, an all-time high.

21 more deaths, the 2nd highest one-day total ever. 7-day rolling average 15.3, an all-time high.

Hospitalizations 1,055 (+29) an all-time high.

ICU 337 (-12) down from yesterday's all-time high.

This is not good at all.

I’m really really hoping some of this is backlogged testing that built up during the ice storm.

If this keeps up, we will be ove 3000 per day at the end of the month . Maybe sooner.

112,000 new cases in the U.S. today, another record.

We'll probably break the 10,000,000 mark tomorrow.

As of Nov. 4th, the entire COVID unit at Stillwater Regional Hospital was full. So were all 7 of regular ICU beds. At the same time daily case totals in Stillwater have returned to double digit levels. My guess it is caused by the bars being packed on weekend nights. The new makeshift patios near the entrance to a couple of bars don't appear to be popular for hanging out.

Today, during a visit to the Stillwater east side Wal-Mart, I was surprised to see six people not wearing masks. Before everybody was. I think the virus is going to have to mutate so bad that people start dropping in the streets from it before it can be taken more seriously.

1,878 (!) new cases today, second only to yesterday. 1,465 7-day rolling average is an all-time high.

16 additional deaths; 14.7 7-day average slightly down from yesterday's all-time high.

Hospitalizations 1,025 (-30) down from yesterday's all-time high.

ICU is 326 (-11); high was 349 2 days ago.

Maybe hospitals should start telling patients to take "personal responsibility" if they get a secondary infection post-surgery or procedure. Because clearly "personal responsibility" is working wonders with a statewide viral outbreak.
(Sarcastic comment, just soooo frustrated)

Maybe hospitals should start telling patients to take "personal responsibility" if they get a secondary infection post-surgery or procedure. Because clearly "personal responsibility" is working wonders with a statewide viral outbreak.
(Sarcastic comment, just soooo frustrated)

Ha, I said the same thing about 7000 posts ago, I know, it's ridiculous and insane.

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=45625&p=1112652#post1112652

123,000+ new cases today in the U.S. We've now passed the 10 million mark.


Deaths are also starting to trend up as there were 1,180 today.

As of Nov. 6, no ICUs available in the covid unit at Stillwater Regional Hospital. Overall, though, pressure is a little lower.

https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/nov6icu.jpg