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C_M_25
10-23-2020, 05:18 PM
OKC is supposedly in Tier 2 surge now. Though the plan isn’t really rolled out. We are in trouble guys. Stay safe!

I’m in quarantine now as we were exposed at work. Getting tested tomorrow as that is 5 days. Hoping for a negative!

Are you symptomatic or do you have to have a negative before going back to work?

Libbymin
10-23-2020, 05:28 PM
https://www.news9.com/story/5f93560a27944a03add3a67d/okc-hospitals-move-into-states-covid19-surge-plans-2nd-tier

timothy.a.owen
10-23-2020, 06:46 PM
OKC is supposedly in Tier 2 surge now. Though the plan isn’t really rolled out. We are in trouble guys. Stay safe!

I’m in quarantine now as we were exposed at work. Getting tested tomorrow as that is 5 days. Hoping for a negative!

Thank you for doing the right thing.

d-usa
10-24-2020, 11:54 AM
1,829

****...

soonerguru
10-24-2020, 11:55 AM
1,829

****...

I viscerally hate Stitt.

oklip955
10-24-2020, 12:35 PM
As the US hit over 84,000 and Europe is seeing record numbers, there are predictions that the US is on course for over 100K cases a day. It sure is looking like Okla could soon hit over 2K a day. Ugh. We are in serious trouble folks.

The Dude
10-24-2020, 12:37 PM
I viscerally hate Stitt.

His inaction is criminal....people are dying

Bunty
10-24-2020, 12:51 PM
I viscerally hate Stitt.

8 months into the virus and don't understand why people aren't being more cautious about not catching it, unless they're confident the illness will only be brief and mild, if anything at all. I wonder if it would have made any difference had Gov. Stitt got so sick with it that he had to be in ICU for least a few days.

Maybe I'm different by not wanting to risk it any more than I currently am. So yesterday for less risk I went to the Texas Roadhouse at a time I thought it wouldn't be busy. However, it was 4:45pm and it already had a good sized crowd. I was glad that different from my last visit that there were plexiglass panels installed between the tables. I hope that works to reduce the spread. But unlike at Mexico Joe's the waiter did not ask me to have a mask on when leaving the table.

At least Stillwater is going in the opposite direction with only 5 new cases today. It's often been in the double digits.

dankrutka
10-24-2020, 01:11 PM
No, Stitt didn’t need to get sick, he simply needed to be a competent leader who can listen to experts. Him and all his enablers have likely resulted in hundreds of people dying. And he’d probably win re-election tomorrow. Of course, Holt also provided excuses and no leadership at the onset of the pandemic. These numbers are an indictment on the entire state.

kukblue1
10-24-2020, 01:32 PM
Herd immunity here we come. 111,685 that's not counting all that have had it never got tested. Some say times that number by 10. 1,111,685 4 million live in the state we are 25 percent the way there. Why aren't more people taking it seriously? 311 in the ICU out of 4 million people. What percentage is that? While it's bad I can see why many think MEH. #missme :)

Rover
10-24-2020, 01:39 PM
Herd immunity here we come. 111,685 that's not counting all that have had it never got tested. Some say times that number by 10. 1,111,685 4 million live in the state we are 25 percent the way there. Why aren't more people taking it seriously? 311 in the ICU out of 4 million people. What percentage is that? While it's bad I can see why many think MEH. #missme :)
Totally ignorant appraisal and lack of understanding of health, viruses and logic.

d-usa
10-24-2020, 01:46 PM
Every 3-4 days the same old “herd immunity” crap post.

Libbymin
10-24-2020, 01:50 PM
We’re not even close to herd immunity.

FighttheGoodFight
10-24-2020, 02:00 PM
Are you symptomatic or do you have to have a negative before going back to work?

Just cautious. Both my wife and I are negative though.

dankrutka
10-24-2020, 02:25 PM
Please don’t reply to/quote kukblue1 because those of us who have blocked them then have to see the posts. Thank you.

Bill Robertson
10-24-2020, 02:26 PM
We’re not even close to herd immunity.
And the numbers seem to be growing pretty rapidly of people getting it again. Often worse the second time. So until there's a vaccine there's no hope for immunity herd or otherwise.

kukblue1
10-24-2020, 03:03 PM
Just FYI blocking people is weak. I no y'all hate what I post but there are people out there that believe that I'm just coming from a different perspective. You all wonder why cases are still going up. Cause some people will say 311 people in the ICU out of four million is a drop in the bucket and if it hasn't hit them yet they won't care

C_M_25
10-24-2020, 03:07 PM
Just FYI blocking people is weak. I no y'all hate what I post but there are people out there that believe that I'm just coming from a different perspective. You all wonder why cases are still going up. Cause some people will say 311 people in the ICU out of four million is a drop in the bucket and if it hasn't hit them yet they won't care

I’m not a fan of blocking somebody on this forum. This forum is essentially opinion-based and discussion with some science and data sprinkled in. You may be a minority on the board, but you have a right to be heard here. This isn’t a science sub...

d-usa
10-24-2020, 03:19 PM
Tried going to the pumpkin patch at the Myriad Gardens. The patch itself is limited access and nicely spaced out. But the line is 300 people deep without masks and zero social distancing.

Bill Robertson
10-24-2020, 03:38 PM
Tried going to the pumpkin patch at the Myriad Gardens. The patch itself is limited access and nicely spaced out. But the line is 300 people deep without masks and zero social distancing.
There are so many things that I'd like to go do but I see way too many people not being careful at all. I've become a hermit and will remain so until this is over.
A not so funny memory. At the beginning in mid-March I was still stopping for a beer on the way home from work pretty much every day. I decided that when Oklahoma hit 1000 confirmed cases I'd get worried and stay home. That didn't take long. Little did I know I already had it anyway.

C_M_25
10-24-2020, 03:46 PM
Tried going to the pumpkin patch at the Myriad Gardens. The patch itself is limited access and nicely spaced out. But the line is 300 people deep without masks and zero social distancing.

If you can, try and go in the middle of the day in the middle of the week. It’s quite a bit slower out there at those times.

d-usa
10-24-2020, 03:51 PM
The Affair of the Hearts is gonna blow the Trump rally out of the water as a super spreader event.

Bill Robertson
10-24-2020, 04:10 PM
The Affair of the Hearts is gonna blow the Trump rally out of the water as a super spreader event.Based just on the numbers of cars I saw yesterday, yes definitely. I really think covid fatigue and many people just being "over it" is a thing. And that plus the holiday season coming up is not going to be anything but a disaster.

Bobby821
10-24-2020, 04:12 PM
I would like some advice on something I am on the fence about. My family attends a small church that meets in a small retail store front. There are around 30 adults and children in our church and not everyone wears a mask or wears it properly. We meet only once a week now due to Covid for about 2 to 2 and a half hrs. We are all in the same room as I said our church is small and the AC is on. We have recently began singing 1 worship song during service and people remove there masks during that time. We have had 1 members husband who he does not attend service currently but he tested positive a few weeks ago for Covid and we have another family who was around family that tested positive also. All the kids at our church are homeschooled and of the adults there is 1 man who works in IT at OU medical ctr complex and another couple the husband works at Boeing and his wife works at a day care and we have 2 guys who are Fed Ex delivery drivers everyone else is at home. I am on the fence about my family stopping going to service until the Covid virus is better under control. What are you guys thoughts with this with what I have described above. Would you keep going or stop for a while till things start heading downward with the virus stats?

Canoe
10-24-2020, 04:41 PM
There are so many things that I'd like to go do but I see way too many people not being careful at all. I've become a hermit and will remain so until this is over.
A not so funny memory. At the beginning in mid-March I was still stopping for a beer on the way home from work pretty much every day. I decided that when Oklahoma hit 1000 confirmed cases I'd get worried and stay home. That didn't take long. Little did I know I already had it anyway.

Bill it seems like you lived a pretty cool life before the virus. I am rooting for you after this virus is over. Your posts are depressing.

Pete
10-24-2020, 04:45 PM
Our 7-day rolling average is 1,312, a record high by a fair margin just as we head into cold and flu season.

Remember when 500 cases/day was a huge deal??

This is all very predictable: first come cases, then a week later hospitalizations and another week after that, more deaths. And we are already at or near record highs across the board.


History is going to be very unkind to our 'leaders' who have done next to nothing throughout this mess.

Bill Robertson
10-24-2020, 05:22 PM
Bill it seems like you lived a pretty cool life before the virus. I am rooting for you after this virus is over. Your posts are depressing.I don't mean to be depressing but this virus is just that. Actually on the bright side staying home all the time has let us pay off everything but the house. Oh yeah, I've also lost 10 pounds and my black pressure is averaging lower than it has in years.

Bill Robertson
10-24-2020, 05:25 PM
I would like some advice on something I am on the fence about. My family attends a small church that meets in a small retail store front. There are around 30 adults and children in our church and not everyone wears a mask or wears it properly. We meet only once a week now due to Covid for about 2 to 2 and a half hrs. We are all in the same room as I said our church is small and the AC is on. We have recently began singing 1 worship song during service and people remove there masks during that time. We have had 1 members husband who he does not attend service currently but he tested positive a few weeks ago for Covid and we have another family who was around family that tested positive also. All the kids at our church are homeschooled and of the adults there is 1 man who works in IT at OU medical ctr complex and another couple the husband works at Boeing and his wife works at a day care and we have 2 guys who are Fed Ex delivery drivers everyone else is at home. I am on the fence about my family stopping going to service until the Covid virus is better under control. What are you guys thoughts with this with what I have described above. Would you keep going or stop for a while till things start heading downward with the virus stats?
My best answer to this is that we LOVE our church and it brought me closer to my sister who is 14 years older than I am when she moved back to OKC and started going with us. All this considered we haven't been in person since March and aren't going back any time soon.

Pete
10-24-2020, 05:27 PM
U.S. set a record yesterday with 83,000 cases, 6,000 more than the previous high in July.


We only had 32,000 cases on Labor Day.

dankrutka
10-24-2020, 05:27 PM
I would like some advice on something I am on the fence about. My family attends a small church that meets in a small retail store front. There are around 30 adults and children in our church and not everyone wears a mask or wears it properly. We meet only once a week now due to Covid for about 2 to 2 and a half hrs. We are all in the same room as I said our church is small and the AC is on. We have recently began singing 1 worship song during service and people remove there masks during that time. We have had 1 members husband who he does not attend service currently but he tested positive a few weeks ago for Covid and we have another family who was around family that tested positive also. All the kids at our church are homeschooled and of the adults there is 1 man who works in IT at OU medical ctr complex and another couple the husband works at Boeing and his wife works at a day care and we have 2 guys who are Fed Ex delivery drivers everyone else is at home. I am on the fence about my family stopping going to service until the Covid virus is better under control. What are you guys thoughts with this with what I have described above. Would you keep going or stop for a while till things start heading downward with the virus stats?

Being indoors with people outside your bubble for extended periods of time is how COVID spreads. I would not do it, but I’ve barely been inside any place with other people since March.

FighttheGoodFight
10-24-2020, 05:42 PM
I would like some advice on something I am on the fence about. My family attends a small church that meets in a small retail store front. There are around 30 adults and children in our church and not everyone wears a mask or wears it properly. We meet only once a week now due to Covid for about 2 to 2 and a half hrs. We are all in the same room as I said our church is small and the AC is on. We have recently began singing 1 worship song during service and people remove there masks during that time. We have had 1 members husband who he does not attend service currently but he tested positive a few weeks ago for Covid and we have another family who was around family that tested positive also. All the kids at our church are homeschooled and of the adults there is 1 man who works in IT at OU medical ctr complex and another couple the husband works at Boeing and his wife works at a day care and we have 2 guys who are Fed Ex delivery drivers everyone else is at home. I am on the fence about my family stopping going to service until the Covid virus is better under control. What are you guys thoughts with this with what I have described above. Would you keep going or stop for a while till things start heading downward with the virus stats?

My wife and I never missed a service and Wednesday night church for many years. We have not been to in person church since March. There is just no way to do it safely for us and our child. I couldn’t sleep at night knowing if I infected an older member at church.

We still watch online every Sunday and do small group on zoom. Do I miss the in person? Absolutely. I just don’t feel comfortable doing it until at least a vaccine. I know a lot of older folks that the only interaction they get is church and that hurts me.

Libbymin
10-24-2020, 06:00 PM
Speaking of depressing, I just perused the comments section on KFOR’s post about the case numbers today. Isn’t hard to see why we’re in this situation when you see how many Okies respond to this kind of news...

Bobby821
10-24-2020, 06:48 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post Bill, I appreciate it.

OKCbyTRANSFER
10-24-2020, 09:40 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post Bill, I appreciate it.

Hard decision. The church I attend is as small as yours and has not yet gone back to in person, we Zoom. We did not have our 20th Anniversary celebration this year, and our annual meeting will be online. Some members have met outside of church, in a park or backyard setting where they could social distance outside, but now that the weather is turning it could be more challenging. That gave a few the opportunity to see each other and have some personal interaction.

catch22
10-24-2020, 09:50 PM
Speaking of depressing, I just perused the comments section on KFOR’s post about the case numbers today. Isn’t hard to see why we’re in this situation when you see how many Okies respond to this kind of news...

If it makes you feel any better, it's largely the same in CO as far as news station comment sections go. I think it is their only outlet.

soonerguru
10-24-2020, 11:37 PM
I would like some advice on something I am on the fence about. My family attends a small church that meets in a small retail store front. There are around 30 adults and children in our church and not everyone wears a mask or wears it properly. We meet only once a week now due to Covid for about 2 to 2 and a half hrs. We are all in the same room as I said our church is small and the AC is on. We have recently began singing 1 worship song during service and people remove there masks during that time. We have had 1 members husband who he does not attend service currently but he tested positive a few weeks ago for Covid and we have another family who was around family that tested positive also. All the kids at our church are homeschooled and of the adults there is 1 man who works in IT at OU medical ctr complex and another couple the husband works at Boeing and his wife works at a day care and we have 2 guys who are Fed Ex delivery drivers everyone else is at home. I am on the fence about my family stopping going to service until the Covid virus is better under control. What are you guys thoughts with this with what I have described above. Would you keep going or stop for a while till things start heading downward with the virus stats?

I'm sorry to say, but it is not safe. You are gambling with your family's health if you continue to attend in person. The environment you describe is one of the most common environments for community spread.

Tritoon
10-25-2020, 06:26 AM
This is not a slam on religious people, but dang how fragile is your faith.

All these outbreaks at church's, we've known about this for the last 9 months and people are hell bent on going still.

I get it fells good to pray and sing songs in person but you can do that from home.

d-usa
10-25-2020, 09:04 AM
We are a small church as well, and we have been able to use this situation to develop a system to life stream our services (which are held with maybe 10 people total in attendance who are basically just there to assist with the service itself).

Edmond Hausfrau
10-25-2020, 10:28 AM
This is not a slam on religious people, but dang how fragile is your faith.

All these outbreaks at church's, we've known about this for the last 9 months and people are hell bent on going still.

I get it fells good to pray and sing songs in person but you can do that from home.

We already had a public health epidemic of isolation in our elderly population. Americans are not traditionally living in multigenerational housing. We have closed senior centers, shut nursing homes off from visitation, asked families not to physically hug the elderly. It's not safe to go to church in person at the present time, and for many seniors that is their last lifeline.
Please check on your elderly neighbors and acquaintances by any safe means (telephone, Skype, post it note on their door). They are suffering, and dying, in silence.

Pete
10-25-2020, 12:37 PM
1,051 new cases today; a record for a Sunday.

1,348 7-day rolling average is another new record high.

4 additional reported deaths.

oklip955
10-25-2020, 04:34 PM
We already had a public health epidemic of isolation in our elderly population. Americans are not traditionally living in multigenerational housing. We have closed senior centers, shut nursing homes off from visitation, asked families not to physically hug the elderly. It's not safe to go to church in person at the present time, and for many seniors that is their last lifeline.
Please check on your elderly neighbors and acquaintances by any safe means (telephone, Skype, post it note on their door). They are suffering, and dying, in silence.

Just want to say that there are other out there who may not be "elderly" but have few family members or maybe friends. Sometimes it might be a single person who's job brought them to the area, maybe a student far from home renting a house or appartment or just a retired person or other person who because of the pandemic finds them self at home most of the time. I kind of fit one of those descriptions as I am an early retiree without family. Just be kind to them. With the pandemic shutting down a lot of outside activities that people participate in we can find ourselves very isolated. If one is older or has health issues we try to go out as little as possible. Even if one is going to church, many times with the covid precautions that some have in place, other activities are cancelled. all are asked to social distance and not to gather to talk after services but to immediately leave. Also even those with friend, some of us try to stay away and avoid gatherings. It just makes for more lonely people in our society. I guess I am lucky in that I do have friends out of the area and we get on social media almost daily and visit.

dankrutka
10-26-2020, 02:15 AM
I'm sorry to say, but it is not safe. You are gambling with your family's health if you continue to attend in person. The environment you describe is one of the most common environments for community spread.

Right. If you really need to meet with others, wear masks, social distance, and most importantly, hold your service outside. That's about the only way you can do it safely. We just got word yesterday of a church with people we know that followed strict protocols and now has people with positive cases who interacted with other members. It's not a good situation and they were as careful as you can be.

C_M_25
10-26-2020, 06:35 AM
I have a friend over in Europe, and she said that they are really struggling over there. They basically had this thing "under control" with a much lower baseline than us. The moment they started opening, covid surged and is now spreading almost uncontrollably. The only country that seems to have really beaten it back is china; however, I take all of their numbers with a grain of salt. Either we need a major cultural shift across the globe to really fight this thing or we need a viable vaccine in a hurry. It's either that or herd immunity will eventually be the only way we can snuff it out. Don't light me up on the herd immunity thing. I'm not suggesting that as an option. That's only worst case scenario. There's no seasonality. It's running unabated throughout the year. It spreads like wildfire. People are idiots.

David
10-26-2020, 08:41 AM
The problem with the herd immunity suggestion is it largely doesn't actually happen without a vaccine. We never got to herd immunity for polio, or smallpox, or measles, or any number of viruses that ravaged humanity until we had vaccines.

Pete
10-26-2020, 08:47 AM
All the experts have said repeatedly that herd immunity is absolutely not an option.

Some people just want to keep bringing up all these extraneous things when all this is very straight-forward, and it has been from the beginning. Many just don't like the answers.

Pete
10-26-2020, 11:02 AM
663 new cases today, as Monday's are usually the lowest day of the week.

2 additional deaths.

Bunty
10-26-2020, 12:48 PM
At Stillwater hospital, ICU beds for covid available again as of Monday morning as shown. In Stillwater, daily new covid positive cases continue to stay in single digits. It's not headed in the wrong way everywhere in the state. But too early in the season to take much hope from it.

http://okie.world/photos/hospital1025.jpg

BDP
10-26-2020, 01:10 PM
The only country that seems to have really beaten it back is china;

There are several nations who have contained the virus effectively, relative to the US. Almost all countries have been better at it than the US.

But that makes total sense, because not only does the US not have much of a national mitigation or containment plan in place, leadership here actively works against mitigation efforts. We're not even talking about parts of our government being incompetent or abdicating responsibility. Many are working to undermine the most simple and basic actions that could be taken to control the spread. They are simply choosing more sickness and death. So, guess what, we're getting more sickness and death.

Promoting heard immunity is just way of being pro-covid and hoping for more death so that some can avoid minor inconveniences like wearing a mask.

soonerguru
10-26-2020, 01:38 PM
I have a friend over in Europe, and she said that they are really struggling over there. They basically had this thing "under control" with a much lower baseline than us. The moment they started opening, covid surged and is now spreading almost uncontrollably. The only country that seems to have really beaten it back is china; however, I take all of their numbers with a grain of salt. Either we need a major cultural shift across the globe to really fight this thing or we need a viable vaccine in a hurry. It's either that or herd immunity will eventually be the only way we can snuff it out. Don't light me up on the herd immunity thing. I'm not suggesting that as an option. That's only worst case scenario. There's no seasonality. It's running unabated throughout the year. It spreads like wildfire. People are idiots.

This is false.

C_M_25
10-26-2020, 02:19 PM
This is false.

Which part? The part where they have beaten this back or the part where they’re the only country? What other countries would you say have returned back to normal?

Bits_Of_Real_Panther
10-26-2020, 03:07 PM
New Zealand, hong kong, Vietnam

soonerguru
10-26-2020, 04:20 PM
New Zealand, hong kong, Vietnam

Thailand, et. al. So sick of the denialism. France and Germany immediately took action once their cases started rising again.

soonerguru
10-26-2020, 04:25 PM
663 new cases today, as Monday's are usually the lowest day of the week.

2 additional deaths.


Channel 9 reported this as a “major decline in cases” this morning.

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Jersey Boss
10-26-2020, 05:56 PM
Channel 9 reported this as a “major decline in cases” this morning.

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As there are on most Monday's. Disingenuous reporting.

Bill Robertson
10-26-2020, 06:34 PM
Thailand, et. al. So sick of the denialism. France and Germany immediately took action once their cases started rising again.
So, are you saying Europe is doing well?

C_M_25
10-26-2020, 07:34 PM
Thailand, et. al. So sick of the denialism. France and Germany immediately took action once their cases started rising again.

Who is denying anything?? Just because I said China is the only one?? Ok, how about this: Europe is failing as is much of the rest of the world. Better??

C_M_25
10-26-2020, 07:39 PM
New Zealand, hong kong, Vietnam

New Zealand is an island nation that has shut itself off from the world. Hardly an option for the US. Hong Kong might as well be a part of China. Vietnam: you got me there. However, they are also enforcing draconian measures to keep in check.

You guys are missing the point. These countries have it under control and the moment they get lax, covid comes back. We need a vaccine. Without it, we’re screwed for quite a while..

Pete
10-26-2020, 07:45 PM
These countries have it under control and the moment they get lax, covid comes back. We need a vaccine. Without it, we’re screwed for quite a while..

Again, there are varying degrees of control.

To do nothing and just wait for a vaccine will cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

There are things to do to mitigate the spread, which has been outlined by the experts and known this whole time. The simple fact is that leaders -- especially in red states -- have steadfastly refused to follow guidelines.


The rhetoric that there is nothing that can be done until a vaccine is widely available is completely wrong.

C_M_25
10-26-2020, 07:46 PM
Thailand, et. al. So sick of the denialism. France and Germany immediately took action once their cases started rising again.

What action? France hit 50,000 cases per day yesterday. You effectively made my point though. You have it in control till you back off just a bit then it comes back in force. It really is quite something to watch. It’s also really concerning. Like I said before, we really need a vaccine.

C_M_25
10-26-2020, 07:49 PM
Again, there are varying degrees of control.

To do nothing and just wait for a vaccine will cost hundreds of thousands of lives.

There are things to do to mitigate the spread, which has been outlined by the experts and known this whole time. The simple fact is that leaders -- especially in red states -- have steadfastly refused to follow guidelines.


The rhetoric that there is nothing that can be done until a vaccine is widely available is completely wrong.

I get what you’re saying and agree with you. Why do people get so twisted off of the word “herd immunity” shows up in a post. I never said that I think that is the way forward.

I wear a mask. I believe everyone should be wearing them. We need to shut some things down again. That’s what I was referring to when I mentioned that we need a “cultural shift” to combat this thing.