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liirogue 10-20-2020, 04:53 PM So they're putting in place a surge plan for the hospitals, but haven't actually told the hospitals themselves yet. Wow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1318669858305957889
soonerguru 10-20-2020, 05:16 PM So they're putting in place a surge plan for the hospitals, but haven't actually told the hospitals themselves yet. Wow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1318669858305957889
I don't think Stitt is very bright at all, but I'm more concerned by his lack of empathy toward people who are really suffering -- those who are staffing our ERs and dealing with this on the front line. It is unconscionable that his administration would try to spin any of this for PR reasons. You know that his failure to act before is compounding the problem now, and he is not about to take any kind of action two weeks before the election.
Bill Robertson 10-20-2020, 05:17 PM This is only anecdotal evidence but I've seen people that I know who are nurses in OKC posting things about how they are at capacity already and things are not looking great. It's one thing for officials to try and reassure people but it just feels more and more like we're being misled, which isn't right.
Yeah. Go spend any time at all on Oklahoma Source and read nurse's comments on there. We are not fine.
Bill Robertson 10-20-2020, 05:21 PM So they're putting in place a surge plan for the hospitals, but haven't actually told the hospitals themselves yet. Wow.
https://mobile.twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1318669858305957889
I've worked for a couple large organizations that the senior management would put together "plans" for the working departments or divisions. Without really knowing much about how things actually operated. As you can imagine the results were somewhere between bad and disastrous. I foresee that probably happening here.
TheTravellers 10-20-2020, 06:35 PM Had a procedure done today at SW Community Hospital - one guy was leaving and didn't have his mask over his nose, and one woman came in with her mask the same way. If hospitals aren't even enforcing mask mandates, then we're totally f-ing screwed.
Bill Robertson 10-20-2020, 06:44 PM Had a procedure done today at SW Community Hospital - one guy was leaving and didn't have his mask over his nose, and one woman came in with her mask the same way. If hospitals aren't even enforcing mask mandates, then we're totally f-ing screwed.WOW!!! I've been to Community Hospital North/Oklahoma Sports Science Orthopedics about a half dozen times since early August. They are VERY good about stopping you at the door for temperature and questions and making sure masks are worn everywhere. When I was in the MRI machine alone in the room the tech said over the intercom that I could take my mask off but they suggested I didn't. I didn't.
pw405 10-20-2020, 07:37 PM Today's report shows a total of 870 people in the hospital (+49 from yesterday), with 317 in the ICU (-2 from yesterday). A new all time high for patients in the hospital.
The Day over Day patients seen in the hospital is +149, a new all time high. (Today's "Hospitalized Ever" of 7,964 minus yesterday's 7,815)
Edmond Hausfrau 10-20-2020, 07:55 PM And where will they find staff. Lots states are having spikes in hospitalizations also. Probably not bringing staff in from anywhere else.
I work with medical staffing agencies. Oklahoma never put up the $$ required when compared to other states like Texas. I imagine that they will have a hard time finding takers.
Today's report shows a total of 870 people in the hospital (+49 from yesterday
Holy cow.
Just 3 weeks ago we were at 579, which is more than a 50% increase in that short time.
TheTravellers 10-20-2020, 08:36 PM WOW!!! I've been to Community Hospital North/Oklahoma Sports Science Orthopedics about a half dozen times since early August. They are VERY good about stopping you at the door for temperature and questions and making sure masks are worn everywhere. When I was in the MRI machine alone in the room the tech said over the intercom that I could take my mask off but they suggested I didn't. I didn't.
They did stop us and take our temp at the second door, and everybody else had masks on in the waiting room. My procedure was an EGD, so the mask had to come off for me. They're doing *pretty* good, but even to let 2 people out of a dozen wear masks incorrectly and YOU'RE A HOSPITAL just ain't cool.
Bill Robertson 10-20-2020, 08:42 PM They did stop us and take our temp at the second door, and everybody else had masks on in the waiting room. My procedure was an EGD, so the mask had to come off for me. They're doing *pretty* good, but even to let 2 people out of a dozen wear masks incorrectly and YOU'RE A HOSPITAL just ain't cool.No. It's not. I've been very concerned about having to be in a hospital situation so much lately and looking at many more trips. I'm really glad where I go seems really careful. Maybe or maybe not but it could have something to do with the hospital being privately owned by the physicians that operate there.
soonerguru 10-20-2020, 09:50 PM It is amazing that this is happening exactly as predicted by the scientists, but worse due to the total disregard of the governor and president to scientific and medical guidance.
d-usa 10-21-2020, 12:10 AM The plan is for OKMRC volunteers to just staff hospital beds.
That’s well and good, I was a volunteer for a long time so I am familiar with them. But you need actual specialized people to staff ICU beds. And if people have ICU experience they will be working overtime in their own ICU and not volunteering to do it somewhere else. The plan to utilize OKMRC volunteers to staff these hospitals ignores the fact that these volunteers are already working at all these hospitals they are supposed to be staffing. That leaves retired nurses to be our surge staff I guess.
Roger S 10-21-2020, 07:22 AM Saints has all floors open and has had for awhile. This time of the year they usually have some floors closed.
^^^.... That was told to me by someone that has worked as a hospitalist there for 11 years.
Edmond Hausfrau 10-21-2020, 08:15 AM The plan is for OKMRC volunteers to just staff hospital beds.
That’s well and good, I was a volunteer for a long time so I am familiar with them. But you need actual specialized people to staff ICU beds. And if people have ICU experience they will be working overtime in their own ICU and not volunteering to do it somewhere else. The plan to utilize OKMRC volunteers to staff these hospitals ignores the fact that these volunteers are already working at all these hospitals they are supposed to be staffing. That leaves retired nurses to be our surge staff I guess.
Exactly, you are correct.
Edmond Hausfrau 10-21-2020, 08:23 AM It is amazing that this is happening exactly as predicted by the scientists.
We are usually pleased when our hypotheses are borne out, when our predictive models hew so close to the actual findings.
We're just disappointed when politicians assume that we are practicing some kind of alchemy or ancient witchcraft. Scientists devote their lives to generating new hypotheses, testing them, and giving that information to the public for the greater good.
1,307 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 1,177 which is 5 off an all-time high.
19 (!) additional reported deaths, another all-time high after yesterday's record 18.
Hospitalizations 870 (+49) for yet another all-time high. As I posted earlier, this represents a 50% increase in just 3 weeks.
ICU 317 (-2) down slightly from yesterday's all-time high.
209 new cases in OK County.
oklip955 10-21-2020, 11:47 AM I hate to think if this trend continues what the numbers will be looking like after Thanksgiving.
I think things will peak in January and February then hopefully we'll start a slow recovery and by the summer we should have a vaccine.
But this winter is going to be very bad.
oklip955 10-21-2020, 11:53 AM Since I am older and retired, I plan on staying home as much as possible. Keeping stocked up on groceries and on an acreage so I can go and walk my land. Just not many reasons to get out and about. Hoping that I stay healthy through this. This is not a time that anyone wants to be near a hospital.
FighttheGoodFight 10-21-2020, 12:03 PM Since I am older and retired, I plan on staying home as much as possible. Keeping stocked up on groceries and on an acreage so I can go and walk my land. Just not many reasons to get out and about. Hoping that I stay healthy through this. This is not a time that anyone wants to be near a hospital.
Sounds like a good plan. Stay safe.
Bunty 10-21-2020, 01:24 PM A good breathalyzer to detect COVID-19 will surely help in controlling the virus. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/new-faster-breathalyser-test-for-diagnosing-covid-19-in-the-works-in-singapore
Bill Robertson 10-21-2020, 07:37 PM My wife just said she heard a commercial for An Affair Of The Heart. If it like it usually is this will be the worst single spreader event I've heard of. I used to go with her and a normal AAOTH is three days of pretty much literally elbow to elbow people.
OKCbyTRANSFER 10-21-2020, 10:04 PM ^^ Oct 23-25. Masks required and ASKING people to social distance.
Rover 10-21-2020, 10:13 PM ^^ Oct 23-25. Masks required and ASKING people to social distance.
Are they monitoring and restricting the total number of people in the enclosed space at any one time? One way aisles?
soonerguru 10-21-2020, 10:41 PM ^^ Oct 23-25. Masks required and ASKING people to social distance.
Obligatory non-enforced BS for PR reasons only. It's all about $$$$$.
OKCbyTRANSFER 10-21-2020, 10:57 PM I took this from their website, which does mention one way, etc.
AAOTH COVID Response Plan – Oklahoma City
Posted on: September 23, 2020 By: kazoo Categories: Oklahoma City, OK
Face Coverings: face coverings are required indoors for staff, vendors and attendees even if there is no current city mandate.
Social Distancing: everyone is asked to socially distance while shopping, eating, resting or participating in any other activity while at the event.
Health Assessments: Staff and vendors are mandated to ensure the health of their personnel and prohibit anyone with COVID-19 symptoms from attending or working the event. The public is reminded also to not attend if they are/have been recently sick, are experiencing any COVID-like symptoms or have a fever of 100.4 or higher.
Operational Measures
Floor plan:
The show will take place in four buildings: Oklahoma Expo Hall, Pavilion, Centennial and Modern Living – to maximize floor space, and allow for outside space, fresh air and relief of crowds when moving to/from sections of shopping.
Booths will be socially distanced.
Aisles will be designated as one-way.
Entrance/exit flow will be separated and clearly marked at each building.
Occupancy:
building occupancy will be monitored by hired OKCPD to assist with reduced occupancy – asking patrons to visit other buildings or wait a few minutes outside when crowd flow necessitates.
Sanitizing:
Sanitizing stations will be available and vendors and the public are asked to help by providing or bringing their own as well.
Additional housekeeping will be dedicated to specific zones and areas to increase the frequency of cleaning protocols.
Smart Shopping Tips
DO NOT ATTEND IF YOU HAD COVID-19 OR HAVE EXPERIENCED SYMPTOMS (WITHOUT A FALSE TEST RESULT) IN THE LAST 14 DAYS!
Don’t forget your mask.
Purchase your tickets in advance / online.
Attend later – shop after 3 p.m. on Friday and Saturday or at 11 a.m. on Sunday when it is less crowded.
Use the mobile map instead of the paper map found at aaoth.com/map.
Start on a random aisle, minding the one-way signs.
Bring your own sanitizer.
pw405 10-22-2020, 12:15 AM Another day, another one for the record books:
New record: Rolling 7-day death average: 11.14
New record: Total Patients in hospital: 910
New record: Total dead last 7 days: 78
The morbid data this week also tips October in to the following new projected records:
Projected New Record: Total 1 month deaths: 264
Projected New Record: Average daily deaths over a single month: 9
Projected New Record: Average daily cases over a single month: 1,126
Projected New Record: Total 1 month cases: 34,921 (level of surprise: 0/10).
(Edit: Incorrectly stated a new record for total dead over the last over 14 days of 135 people, however in late August the total 14 day deaths reached 142.)
Outhunder 10-22-2020, 10:21 AM Anyone think we will shut down again? How close are we from going red and shutting down?
Edmond Hausfrau 10-22-2020, 10:55 AM The plan is for OKMRC volunteers to just staff hospital beds.
That’s well and good, I was a volunteer for a long time so I am familiar with them. But you need actual specialized people to staff ICU beds. And if people have ICU experience they will be working overtime in their own ICU and not volunteering to do it somewhere else. The plan to utilize OKMRC volunteers to staff these hospitals ignores the fact that these volunteers are already working at all these hospitals they are supposed to be staffing. That leaves retired nurses to be our surge staff I guess.
Apparently, OCCHD is just now putting out the call for people to SIGN UP to volunteer with OKMRC because they don't seem to have enough volunteers in place.
Shocker.
FighttheGoodFight 10-22-2020, 11:06 AM You gotta love this quote from Stitt about McGirt.... If only that were the case with mask mandates....
https://twitter.com/KOCODillon/status/1319293225492910083?s=20
"Stitt says we have to make sure the rules are the same for everyone across the state.
He says: "Can you imagine" what it would be like if there were 39 sets of rules across the state?"
1,628 (!) new cases today, smashing our record high.
7-day rolling averages is 1,235, well above our all-time high.
11 more reported deaths.
910 (+40) hospitalizations, easily a record high.
ICU was down 20 to 297.
Libbymin 10-22-2020, 11:17 AM Anyone think we will shut down again? How close are we from going red and shutting down?
Even as bad as things are getting, unlikely. Our local leadership was reluctant to even impose a mask order and our state leadership refuses to do it on a state-wide level, so I have a hard time seeing us going to a shutdown.
Part of the problem is that a lot of the spread is resulting from families beyond the nuclear unit meeting maskless for get-togethers. Of course, you can just as easily transmit this thing to your uncle or cousins as you could to some stranger, but people let their guard down in these situations. With the holidays coming up, it definitely concerns me.
d-usa 10-22-2020, 11:24 AM Apparently, OCCHD is just now putting out the call for people to SIGN UP to volunteer with OKMRC because they don't seem to have enough volunteers in place.
Shocker.
I’m getting Surveys to check my availability, which is zero because my institution has me busy 24/7.
Edmond Hausfrau 10-22-2020, 11:34 AM I’m getting Surveys to check my availability, which is zero because my institution has me busy 24/7.
Yup. Qualified staffing levels has always been the rate-limiting step. No one is available because we are already working.
Remember when Texas, Arizona and Florida were completely out of control?
Well, Oklahoma is about ready to pass Texas in terms of cases per capita and is quickly closing the gap on Arizona.
Now that bars and everything else has reopened in Florida, they had 5,500 new cases today.
C_M_25 10-22-2020, 11:59 AM Here's hoping to a severe winter weather season with major snow/ice storms weekly and sub-zero temps in between. That should keep people from getting together too much!!
1,628 (!) new cases today, smashing our record high.
7-day rolling averages is 1,235, well above our all-time high.
11 more reported deaths.
910 (+40) hospitalizations, easily a record high.
ICU was down 20 to 297.
Just had a friend get out of the hospital with Covid. The first friend that's been hospitalized and it's a little terrifying. His o2 sat kept dropping below 80%. This virus continues to get closer to home the more people are exposed it.
oklip955 10-22-2020, 12:36 PM Edmond took a huge jump with another 77 new cases today. Active cases at 618. Looks like Edmond is becoming a bit of a hot spot.
Jesseda 10-22-2020, 01:08 PM Edmond took a huge jump with another 77 new cases today. Active cases at 618. Looks like Edmond is becoming a bit of a hot spot.
Where do you look for cases in each town? would love to know this info for Moore and also Norman
Bunty 10-22-2020, 01:16 PM Where do you look for cases in each town? would love to know this info for Moore and also Norman
Here: https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/79
SEMIweather 10-22-2020, 01:45 PM Here's hoping to a severe winter weather season with major snow/ice storms weekly and sub-zero temps in between. That should keep people from getting together too much!!
Lol, and of course the long-range winter forecast is for warmer and drier than average. I actually think that could be a good thing, means more good days for outdoor activities but it's questionable whether most people even realize or care about how much safer outdoor activities are compared to indoor activities.
oklip955 10-22-2020, 02:04 PM I've been following the numbers from almost the start. By writing down yesterdays number of cases then todays, you can come to the number of new cases for that day. I've not been keeping up on Moore or Norman since It is rare that I go down there even before covid. I live in Edmond /Arcadia so I'm just trying to keep track of the increases.
soonerguru 10-22-2020, 03:26 PM Lol, and of course the long-range winter forecast is for warmer and drier than average. I actually think that could be a good thing, means more good days for outdoor activities but it's questionable whether most people even realize or care about how much safer outdoor activities are compared to indoor activities.
Summer weather didn't do anything to slow the virus in Oklahoma. It's the dolts saying, "I just wanna live my life. Masks don't work. More people die from car crashes," etc. that matters, not the weather.
The issue with the fall / winter is that it coincides with flu season and our hospitals are already pushed to the brink.
Bill Robertson 10-22-2020, 06:33 PM I keep reading on places like Oklahoma Source that "not all the ICU beds are taken by COVID patients". Here's a case of why that isn't the friggin point. I have a very good old friend that has a daughter that lives in Tahlequah. The daughter has anaphylactic shock attacks of unknown origin. She had one yesterday and ended up in the hospital. They made room because if not she probably would have died. So here's someone without COVID that could have died because COVID is filling up the hospitals. BTW, she's somewhat better today and has a virtual appointment with an Anaphylactic Shock Specialty clinic, I think in St. Louis, tomorrow..
Also, I'm complaining about posts by readers. Not by Oklahoma Source. They are doing a very good job.
pw405 10-22-2020, 06:41 PM Another update to the record books:
New record: Patients in hospital of 956 (+46 vs. yesterday).
Not a new record, but patients in ICU currently at 313 (+16 vs. yesterday). Highest yet recorded was this Monday, at 319.
There are currently 82 ICU beds available for the 4,000,000 people living in Oklahoma. NEW RULE: No more car crashes, heart attacks, strokes, bullet wounds, or industrial accidents until this Covid thing blows over. Reschedule these events for next summer, please.
Bill Robertson 10-22-2020, 06:56 PM Summer weather didn't do anything to slow the virus in Oklahoma. It's the dolts saying, "I just wanna live my life. Masks don't work. More people die from car crashes," etc. that matters, not the weather.
The issue with the fall / winter is that it coincides with flu season and our hospitals are already pushed to the brink.I've spent some time looking at trends from countries in both hemispheres to see correlations between seasons and COVID spread. I believe you are absolutely correct. COVID just doesn't seem to follow any pattern like colds and flu do. Temperatures, seasons, etc. don't seem to have the effect on COVID that we might expect. A case in point directly related to us, it wasn't slowed at all by summer here. The flu always is. I don't think winter in and of itself will affect the virus much. What will have an effect on us is the additional flu hospitalizations. Which people can do something about by getting a freaking flu shot. Also by groups having indoor functions during the colder months. Again people can avoid spreading the virus this way by skipping get togethers for this winter. Just a few months to save a lot of people a lot of misery.
FighttheGoodFight 10-22-2020, 08:05 PM 21% hospitalization increase in the last 7 days. If we do that again we will be over the threshold that OSDH set, in which elective surgeries would be shut down again.
LocoAko 10-23-2020, 08:49 AM Here: https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/79
I might be missing something but I only see totals for the entire pandemic. Is there an easier way to see daily numbers for each city rather than tracking it manually each day from that site?
d-usa 10-23-2020, 10:18 AM https://ktul.com/news/local/okc-becomes-first-hospital-region-in-tier-2-experts-warn-others-may-follow?fbclid=IwAR0qP2hkSy6oRTt39F-HurxDSYW6crm_y_zsVCBMLe0v4uGQMyYEN7wItV8
Edmond Hausfrau 10-23-2020, 10:30 AM https://ktul.com/news/local/okc-becomes-first-hospital-region-in-tier-2-experts-warn-others-may-follow?fbclid=IwAR0qP2hkSy6oRTt39F-HurxDSYW6crm_y_zsVCBMLe0v4uGQMyYEN7wItV8
I hope someone let the hospitals know that, especially since no one in government is willing to actually release the proposed "surge plan".
1,373 new cases today.
7-day rolling average now 1,221, down slightly from yesterday's all-time high.
13 more reported deaths.
956 hospitalizations (+46), an all-time high. That is a 65% (!) increase in just 3 weeks.
ICU 313 (+16), 4 off the all-time high.
Libbymin 10-23-2020, 12:00 PM It's worrying to see the hospitalization and ICU numbers going up so quickly. Some people have been waving off the total case numbers as not being as big of a deal since the hospitalizations numbers hadn't caught up yet, but we're now getting into scary territory already.
Bill Robertson 10-23-2020, 12:51 PM It's worrying to see the hospitalization and ICU numbers going up so quickly. Some people have been waving off the total case numbers as not being as big of a deal since the hospitalizations numbers hadn't caught up yet, but we're now getting into scary territory already.Very worrying. As Pete pointed out hospitalizations have gone up 65% in the last three weeks. The last three weeks of September new cases only went up about half that. That should be the time frame for current hospitalizations. That's a very scary trend and if it continues I really do hope there's a plan to handle it. But I don't believe there really is.
FighttheGoodFight 10-23-2020, 02:09 PM OKC is supposedly in Tier 2 surge now. Though the plan isn’t really rolled out. We are in trouble guys. Stay safe!
I’m in quarantine now as we were exposed at work. Getting tested tomorrow as that is 5 days. Hoping for a negative!
Costco is now selling home Covid-19 kits:
https://www.costco.com/covid-19-saliva-pcr-test-kit%2c-redeemed-by-azova.product.100706742.html
Outhunder 10-23-2020, 02:42 PM $130 for one test? or are there multiple tests in the kit?
FighttheGoodFight 10-23-2020, 02:47 PM $130 for one test? or are there multiple tests in the kit?
Nope. Just one.
Bill Robertson 10-23-2020, 03:27 PM Costco is now selling home Covid-19 kits:
https://www.costco.com/covid-19-saliva-pcr-test-kit%2c-redeemed-by-azova.product.100706742.html
Wow! Just wow. I may be behind on this because I haven't paid any attention to home test approval but I thought we were a ways away from this.
Bill Robertson 10-23-2020, 05:03 PM Had to go pick up my car at a dealership near 240 & Walker. On the way back NW I went by the Fairgrounds. Sadly both Mathis Bros and Bob Mills were PACKED. If everyone is being careful fine but I doubt it. The Fairgrounds parking for AAOTH was FULL. Based on observations from the many years I've gone with my wife they are not limiting attendance. I'm sure if they're not limiting attendance they also aren't enforcing much of any precautions. This makes me very sad.
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