All Governor Stitt and Mayor Holt are doing is reinterating the same cramp they have been saying for a week, nothing new. Its not hard people, just stay home, smh. Only go out for essentials.

At least the the City of Norman Mayor has some guts and insight by issuing a 15-day shelter in place order today. She is not waiting on Governor Stitt or the President. She has been very proactive during all of this and is first in implemented policies to protect her community.

Stitt beat her to it (at least for the counties that have positive tests so far). Making hers unnecessary.

that's a jump in the number of hospitalized... wonder if they're new hospitalizations or existing patients just now getting results.

Tests are becoming more restricted, and many places only test hospitalized patients now.

Tests are becoming more restricted, and many places only test hospitalized patients now.

Which is absolutely insane and almost criminal.

Stitt did do something today. After his ridiculous photo from the packed restaurant with his kids, he’s come a long way. The announcement today is a 21-day shutdown of all non-essential businesses. He seemed passionate about the importance of staying home. To me, that sounds like he is going in the opposite direction of Trump.

Stitt did do something today. After his ridiculous photo from the packed restaurant with his kids, he’s come a long way. The announcement today is a 21-day shutdown of all non-essential businesses. He seemed passionate about the importance of staying home. To me, that sounds like he is going in the opposite direction of Trump.

Didn't he mention something about 16 categories describing non-essential? What does this mean?

Didn't he mention something about 16 categories describing non-essential? What does this mean?

Haven't read the link yet, but they're apparently based on this:

https://www.cbia.com/resources/coronavirus/coronavirus-state-federal-updates/department-homeland-security-essential-industries/

Tests are becoming more restricted, and many places only test hospitalized patients now.

It was not like they were ever leading the way on testing, even around the time it was becoming a national problem before any cases confirmed here they were at the point of rationing confirmations. With the spread increasing cases faster than the expansion of their testing capability, then more restrictive selection seems the most likely outcome.

Didn't he mention something about 16 categories describing non-essential? What does this mean?

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The number of businesses that are considered essential is insane. I received an email from my lawn company a couple of minutes ago and they said they were considered essential.

I guess this means no more golf for the next three weeks.

Haven't read the link yet, but they're apparently based on this:

https://www.cbia.com/resources/coronavirus/coronavirus-state-federal-updates/department-homeland-security-essential-industries/

Actually, that was close, but this link actually lists everything by category beginning on page 5 of the pdf.
https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/CISA-Guidance-on-Essential-Critical-Infrastructure-Workers-1-20-508c.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0qHbZTfMdo7g7-U-rXbAiaU4bIG7oa125hvv-gDTqq00gizPvHjT-V9uc

Actually, that was close, but this link actually lists everything by category beginning on page 5 of the pdf.
https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/CISA-Guidance-on-Essential-Critical-Infrastructure-Workers-1-20-508c.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0qHbZTfMdo7g7-U-rXbAiaU4bIG7oa125hvv-gDTqq00gizPvHjT-V9uc

Yep, saw it was a big PDF and I've got other things going on, so I figured the link would get people there and they could do their own searching, thanks for giving a direct link to the categories, though.

The number of businesses that are considered essential is insane. I received an email from my lawn company a couple of minutes ago and they said they were considered essential.

LOL I know right. If a fast food working is essential shouldn't they be getting paid a living wage. Just saying

The number of businesses that are considered essential is insane. I received an email from my lawn company a couple of minutes ago and they said they were considered essential.

Lawn care isn't listed in the PDF at all as being essential, so they're lying. But since they're typically working alone or far enough away from each other, they might not be as contagious as other occupations (until they all get in the truck together and start sneezing because of the grass they just cut :)), they probably just want to keep their business alive, but it's still uncool.

If lawn care isn't essential I hope cities stop code enforcement. I'm not mowing that yard myself.

If lawn care isn't essential I hope cities stop code enforcement. I'm not mowing that yard myself.

I don't even own a lawn mower. My first mowing date for the year is tomorrow. It might be the last one for awhile.

I don't even own a lawn mower. My first mowing date for the year is tomorrow. It might be the last one for awhile.

Hear you, going to get out today and pick up limbs and debris to mow the front before 7 p.m., wish you well, hang in there Swake...

I think that one-on-one, contracted personal services, have been exempt from all these business closings. Just no open retail or business on site. You can still have a plumber (for example) come to the house, just maintain distance. I’m guessing a lawn guy would be the same? I might very well be wrong, but that is my understanding (as long as there is no lockdown).

I have a carpet cleaner scheduled to show up on Thursday. I’ve used them before and it was a 1 man show.

The number of businesses that are considered essential is insane. I received an email from my lawn company a couple of minutes ago and they said they were considered essential.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-pandemic-employers-consider-work-essential_n_5e7a6187c5b6d01bd1537506

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/coronavirus-pandemic-employers-consider-work-essential_n_5e7a6187c5b6d01bd1537506

Just crazy. Hmmm. I wonder if those strip-mall massage parlors consider themselves essential, to...you know...release “stress” during the pandemic?

Just crazy. Hmmm. I wonder if those strip-mall massage parlors consider themselves essential, to...you know...release “stress” during the pandemic?

Best post of the day!

Just crazy. Hmmm. I wonder if those strip-mall massage parlors consider themselves essential, to...you know...release “stress” during the pandemic?

I think more people are self-soothing with more people at home. This is an all hands on deck pandemic.

https://decider.com/2020/03/19/pornhub-traffic-explodes-coronavirus/

Safe for work but use discretion.

Wednesday update:

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Coming close to doubling in a single day. And we’ll see the numbers get worse as more testing is done and reveals the number of cases already out there but not confirmed.

Waiting so long to act when the evidence from other states was right before our eyes was a massive blunder by Stitt and our state leadership.

Trend spreadsheet I'll keep updating:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona032520ca.jpg

Coming close to doubling in a single day. And we’ll see the numbers get worse as more testing is done and reveals the number of cases already out there but not confirmed.

Waiting so long to act when the evidence from other states was right before our eyes was a massive blunder by Stitt and our state leadership.

Your math is wrong. 109 to 164 cases is not close to doubling, thank goodness.

60% increase instead of 100%. Still significant.

Trend spreadsheet I'll keep updating:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona032520ca.jpg

Pete, thank you for doing this! It is very important to get reliable information. The Oklahoman hardly has any coverage at all except notes from press conferences and press release rewrites.

On another note, how absolutely aggravating and outrageous is it that we have only tested about 1000 people in our state? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?

We probably have thousands of people carrying this virus in Oklahoma now, unwittingly spreading it to others. The governor is doubling down on the Italy approach to mitigation.

We could be worse. We could be Louisiana. But this is not going to turn out well for our state.

Your math is wrong. 109 to 164 cases is not close to doubling, thank goodness.

Do you think this is good news?????

Your math is wrong. 109 to 164 cases is not close to doubling, thank goodness.

almost doubled in deaths and more than doubled in hospitalized (which is the key one for why we are trying to flaten the curve).... not thank goodness...

I have a relative with all of the symptoms who was hospitalized for pneumonia in the Tulsa area. He did get a test but it was negative. I'm reading that the tests themselves have many false negatives. Who knows how many actually are carrying it?

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On another note, how absolutely aggravating and outrageous is it that we have only tested about 1000 people in our state? WHY IS THIS HAPPENING? ...

Because the federal government has failed at the "testing" part of this pandemic. From there, it gets political, so not going to say any more, except to google it.

Your math is wrong. 109 to 164 cases is not close to doubling, thank goodness.

I guess I will take this as a lesson to be more clear in my writing and not rely on people to give the benefit of the non literal interpretation, as I said “coming close to doubling,” by which I meant we are approaching the point of doubling in a day. Again, I’ll be more clear so we don’t have to get into pedantic clarifications in the future.

Either way, the situation is clearly escalating and that’s because our leadership has done such a poor job preparing the state for this, despite having the benefit of seeing how this played out in other states and countries. For some reason that boggles my mind, they thought we would be the exception.

I have a relative with all of the symptoms who was hospitalized for pneumonia in the Tulsa area. He did get a test but it was negative. I'm reading that the tests themselves have many false negatives. Who knows how many actually are carrying it?

That is PRECISELY the point we’ve been trying to make for a long time, but there’s a subset of the population that steadfastly refuses to understand we have no idea how far this is spread because we are not testing at the level we need to test. There were people on this board and in positions of state and city leadership who were very recently saying “Well, we only have 2 cases, what’s the big deal?! Let’s wait to see it spread more before we take action, instead of saying, “wow, everywhere else we can see, this has spread like wildfire. I sure wish we had the tests to verify where it has spread here so we can act in a targeted manner, but since we don’t, we should take precautions and assume it’s here and people are unknowingly spreading it.”

We watched the bomb descending from the sky, but waited for the bomb to explode before we decided to tell people to go into their bunkers. Too late.

Trend spreadsheet I'll keep updating:

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/corona032520ca.jpg

It seems important to note that out of a group of nearly 1000 people who were either exhibiting moderate to severe symptoms or had direct exposure to someone who tested positive for Covid-19, only 16% tested positive and only 6% were hospitalized. 83% of a group that was self-reporting and likely had a much higher probability of being infected than the general state population tested negative.

I wonder how many of those that tested negative are just super rich or "important" people who were able to take advantage of their status/position to get a test done on themselves.

I wonder how many of those that tested negative are just super rich or "important" people who were able to take advantage of their status/position to get a test done on themselves.

I personally know at least 7 people who have been tested. Most have received their results (only 1 positive) and none of them were "rich." It simply came down to the symptoms they were exhibiting and what facility they showed up at.

I personally know at least two very high net worth individuals who had no symptoms or contact who got tested "just to be safe". I'm sure there are some in that number but it probably doesn't skew the results.

I personally know at least 7 people who have been tested. Most have received their results (only 1 positive) and none of them were "rich." It simply came down to the symptoms they were exhibiting and what facility they showed up at.

Didn’t everyone in the state senate get tested? Plus 58 members of the Utah Jazz organization? That alone would represent more than 10 percent of all tested. Then, the Thunder tested everyone, too, which they paid for but would be included in the total numbers. So, yes, rich and important folks are a huge percentage of the numbers. If you are taking any comfort from the high percentage of negatives consider the obvious fact that the sample size is small and entirely inconclusive.

Didn’t everyone in the state senate get tested? Plus 58 members of the Utah Jazz organization?

None of the Jazz players count towards our numbers.

None of the Jazz players count towards our numbers.

You sure about that? I thought the 2 "out of state" positive tests were recorded from the Jazz testing.

You sure about that? I thought the 2 "out of state" positive tests were recorded from the Jazz testing.
This was my understanding as well.

Granted this is in LA, but representative of numbers being inaccurate. I have a friend who lives with her husband and a roommate. They have all been ill for 10 days. One of the three was tested and finally got results back positive. That counts as one.

Thursday update:

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Today's numbers: 248 positive cases, 86 hospitalized and 7 deaths. This is about a 50% rise in positive cases over yesterday. Without better testing it's hard to say whether the jump is reflective of an exponential increase of cases or us just catching up on testing. I suspect the latter at this point, but probably a combination of the two.

Edit: Glad to see Pete updated the results while I was typing my post.

Granted this is in LA, but representative of numbers being inaccurate. I have a friend who lives with her husband and a roommate. They have all been ill for 10 days. One of the three was tested and finally got results back positive. That counts as one.

Yeah.. my neighbor was tested, and is still pending results (currently presumed positive). They haven't tested anyone else in the house, even though a couple of them are also ill - just the one with the biggest health risk. They said that even if hers come back positive, they likely won't test the rest of the folks in the house.

Seeing the same rough “triple every three days” trend other places have seen.

Today's numbers: 248 positive cases, 86 hospitalized and 7 deaths. This is about a 50% rise in positive cases over yesterday. Without better testing it's hard to say whether the jump is reflective of an exponential increase of cases or us just catching up on testing. I suspect the latter at this point, but probably a combination of the two.

Edit: Glad to see Pete updated the results while I was typing my post.

cases in the metro are likely well above 10,000 more likely 100,000 already

Granted this is in LA, but representative of numbers being inaccurate. I have a friend who lives with her husband and a roommate. They have all been ill for 10 days. One of the three was tested and finally got results back positive. That counts as one.


I also know 2 people with bad cough shortness of breathe but no fever. Because they have only 2 symptoms they can't get tested. Basically there are WAY more people out there that have this. Some are still walking around shopping, using drive-thru and whatever. Stay home if at all possible.

...Basically there are WAY more people out there that have this.

Which is why it's absolutely baffling that we aren't able to get on the ball with these drive-through testing stations. If more could get a confirmation of their status, then that would give them more incentive to quarantine and maybe our numbers could go the way of South Korea.

And we have endless cycles of “I can’t get tested because I the person who was sick around me doesn’t have a positive test because he couldn’t get tested because the person who was sick around them didn’t have a positive test because they couldn’t get tested because the person who was sick around them didn’t have a positive test........”

Do you think this is good news?????

Yes. Hopefully rate of increase in hospitalization won't go up. At this point I'll take anything that points to a sign of good news, while hoping a trend gets established.

Which is why it's absolutely baffling that we aren't able to get on the ball with these drive-through testing stations. If more could get a confirmation of their status, then that would give them more incentive to quarantine and maybe our numbers could go the way of South Korea.
It’s just horrible that we can’t get drive thru testing up and running. People will be spreading the virus for possibly 4 days, before they even feel unwell. That’s only going to drive up the numbers of infected people.

At this point we need to get antibody testing up and running along with the traditional testing. Soon enough, we're going to have just as many people who have recovered from this as people who still have it, and both pieces of information will be important. Once we slowly start to reopen things in 1-3 months, we're going to want to know who had it at one point and then recovered, even if they never officially tested positive, because not only can those people go back to their normal lives, they also won't have to worry about wearing a mask out in public. I strongly suspect that universal mask wearing is going to become a norm once we do start to open things back up, but we may as well save those masks for people who aren't already immune for the foreseeable future.

It’s just horrible that we can’t get drive thru testing up and running. People will be spreading the virus for possibly 4 days, before they even feel unwell. That’s only going to drive up the numbers of infected people.Or, since some seem to never really show symptoms they could walk around for 14 days or so spreading it. And if BoulderSooner’s comment of 100,000 metro residents currently being infected was true than the majority of the metro has possibly been exposed. This probably isn't the case. We simply don’t really know and all the estimates are pretty much pure guesses.

...we're going to want to know who had it at one point and then recovered, even if they never officially tested positive...

I, for one, would like to be tested for antibodies later. I'm still fully convinced that is what I had in January. As they publish more news about related symptoms, then it starts to make more sense.

I, for one, would like to be tested for antibodies later. I'm still fully convinced that is what I had in January. As they publish more news about related symptoms, then it starts to make more sense.
Both an employee of mine and I had fitting symptoms in late December, early January. His were a bit worse than mine. I’d really like to know if we both have already had it.

Both an employee of mine and I had fitting symptoms in late December, early January. His were a bit worse than mine. I’d really like to know if we both have already had it.

Same for both me and my parents. Most of the symptoms but negative for flu.