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Bill Robertson
09-26-2020, 11:36 AM
Well we started Monday with 628 in the Hospital and Friday were down to 579. So 49 less. I wish this was a little more detailed. How many left and how many came in? If we times it by 4 roughly 200 left meaning 150 came back in? Of the 579 in the Hospitals how many have been there for a week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks. Hospitalizations are a key number I added up the "number seen" and came up with 3,269. So in the last 5 days 3,269 went to the Hospital for Covid or for everything? Of those 3,269 how many were admitted?
Just be happy with total daily hospitalization numbers. If they tried to get more detailed that would open way too many opportunities for data to be mis reported and every time that happens more people lose faith in the data.

d-usa
09-26-2020, 11:54 AM
Only triple digits today.

The spike is dead, long live the spike!

soonerguru
09-26-2020, 01:07 PM
Where are these empty restaurants. I just pulled in my driveway and on the way home I pass BWW, Texas Roadhouse, Twin Peaks and all the others on I40 between MacArthur and Rockwell. Then everything on NW Expressway from Meridian to Rockwell. Every parking lot is at least half full and MANY are way more full than that. All those people have to be in somewhere. I might actually go to a empty restaurant just to get out.

LOL those are definitely Covid Caverns. I don't care about chains; I'm referring to the single-point, locally owned joints.

Bill Robertson
09-26-2020, 01:32 PM
LOL those are definitely Covid Caverns. I don't care about chains; I'm referring to the single-point, locally owned joints.
OK. We're uncultured and chains are our thing. So I'm really wanting this to get to a point that we can get out.

Pete
09-26-2020, 03:05 PM
990 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 1,101.

155 cases in OK County.

11 deaths; statewide total is now 1,004.

kukblue1
09-26-2020, 03:40 PM
Just be happy with total daily hospitalization numbers. If they tried to get more detailed that would open way too many opportunities for data to be mis reported and every time that happens more people lose faith in the data.

They just seem to not really add up to me. Is something fishing going on? Could the numbers be worse than what they are telling us? Could the numbers be better. If 5,000 people are going into the hospital to get checked in a week and only 50 are being admitted that is 1%.

Edmond Hausfrau
09-26-2020, 04:18 PM
Bruce Williamson, the former lead singer for The Temptations, died from the coronavirus on September 6, 2020. Williamson was a part of the R&B group from 2007 to 2015. He died in his Las Vegas home and was 49

Herman Cain, a former Republican presidential candidate, has died from coronavirus, his website shared on July 30. He was hospitalized less than two weeks after attending President Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma on June 20

Tony Award-nominated Broadway actor Nick Cordero died at the age of 41 due to complications from COVID-19.

Dan Foster, a radio personality, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at age 61 on June 17. Foster was a radio host in Nigeria, where he has been referred to as "the God of radio."

34-year-old singer Chris Trousdale died of health complications related to the coronavirus on June 2. Trousdale was known for singing and dancing in a boy band called Dream Street from 1999 to 2002.

Author H.G. Carrillo, who wrote the novel "Loosing My Espanish," died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 59, the Washington Post reported on May 22. Carrillo was on the board of the PEN/Faulkner Foundation and taught at George Washington University.

Actor BJ Hogg died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 65, Express confirmed on April 30. One of Hogg's most notables roles was on the HBO series Games of Thrones as Sir Addam Mabrand.

Troy Sneed, a grammy-nominated gospel singer, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 52, his friend, radio personality KD Bowe, confirmed on Instagram on April 27. Sneed released seven albums between 1999 and 2012.

Fredrick Thomas, a rapper from the Bronx, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 35 on April 23. A notable New York rapper for over a decade, he was known by fans as Fred the Godson.

American country folk singer-songwriter John Prine died of complications related to coronavirus, his family confirmed to Rolling Stone on April 7. He was 73. Yeah his older -- but one of my favorites.

Actor Jay Benedict died of health complications related to the novel coronavirus on April 4, his agency TCG, tweeted. Benedict appeared in some major films, including "Aliens" and "The Dark Knight Rises."

Adam Schlesinger, a Grammy, Tony, Oscar, and Emmy nominated musician and songwriter, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 52

Of this depressing list, 50% are POC. 30% are infirmed aka elderly (by CDC standards, not trying to suggest 65 is old). It nicely mirrors real-world statistics.

LocoAko
09-26-2020, 06:23 PM
They just seem to not really add up to me. Is something fishing going on? Could the numbers be worse than what they are telling us?.

Things are grim enough without resorting to conspiracies. Let's try to avoid that if at all possible.

Bill Robertson
09-26-2020, 06:33 PM
They just seem to not really add up to me. Is something fishing going on? Could the numbers be worse than what they are telling us? Could the numbers be better. If 5,000 people are going into the hospital to get checked in a week and only 50 are being admitted that is 1%.It's been known from the start that only a very small percentage of cases are severe. So they go get checked and tested but don't end up being admitted. No mystery here.

Rover
09-26-2020, 09:02 PM
Of this depressing list, 50% are POC. 30% are infirmed aka elderly (by CDC standards, not trying to suggest 65 is old). It nicely mirrors real-world statistics.
Are you saying that because you can fit them into a category they don’t count?

kukblue1
09-27-2020, 09:03 AM
Where are these empty restaurants. I just pulled in my driveway and on the way home I pass BWW, Texas Roadhouse, Twin Peaks and all the others on I40 between MacArthur and Rockwell. Then everything on NW Expressway from Meridian to Rockwell. Every parking lot is at least half full and MANY are way more full than that. All those people have to be in somewhere. I might actually go to a empty restaurant just to get out.

I worked last night and 11pm drove by Cowboys and parking lot was full. Twin Peaks i-40 I bet you couldn't find a parking spot. BWW wasn't as bad but still pretty full. So yeah where are these empty places. I know the Braums over that way is running increased sales also. Sure that is fast food a bit different.

soonerguru
09-27-2020, 11:43 AM
OK. We're uncultured and chains are our thing. So I'm really wanting this to get to a point that we can get out.

It's not about that. It's about the fact that national chains have deeper pockets to withstand this than single-point, locally owned restaurants. It's also been an observation that many of these local proprietors are doing everything they can to offer a safe environment for their patrons and staff. Still, dining in a restaurant is a risky decision if you are trying to avoid infection.

I guess you could argue that people who visit Picasso or Goro are more demanding of safety protocols than people at Twin Peaks.

Pete
09-27-2020, 12:57 PM
823 new cases today.

The other data has not been updated.

RustytheBailiff
09-27-2020, 01:28 PM
Of this depressing list, 50% are POC. 30% are infirmed aka elderly (by CDC standards, not trying to suggest 65 is old). It nicely mirrors real-world statistics.

Response was to Bounty's continued comments which infers that folks past 65 need to stay isolated while apparently the rest of the population can go about their business unfettered.

Bill Robertson
09-27-2020, 01:46 PM
I guess you could argue that people who visit Picasso or Goro are more demanding of safety protocols than people at Twin Peaks.

More so even that the management at Picasso or Goro are more demanding of safety protocols than that at Twin Peaks. I guarantee that TP doesn't give a rats about safety protocols as long as there are butts in the seats.

soonerguru
09-27-2020, 02:04 PM
More so even that the management at Picasso or Goro are more demanding of safety protocols than that at Twin Peaks. I guarantee that TP doesn't give a rats about safety protocols as long as there are butts in the seats.

Yes, same with Texas Roadhouse and the other big chains mentioned in this thread -- and, I should add, Hal Smith restaurants. They pack 'em in.

Rover
09-27-2020, 02:38 PM
Response was to Bounty's continued comments which infers that folks past 65 need to stay isolated while apparently the rest of the population can go about their business unfettered.

Except we know spread just doesn’t follow that pattern.

Bill Robertson
09-27-2020, 02:54 PM
Response was to Bounty's continued comments which infers that folks past 65 need to stay isolated while apparently the rest of the population can go about their business unfettered.I don't agree with a lot Bunty often says. But he is accurate that 93% of Oklahoma deaths have been in the over 65 group. It really hasn't been that deadly to anyone else. And I know, I know there are other lingering issues survivors have. I have some of them but thankfully some of mine are very slowly fading.

Bill Robertson
09-27-2020, 03:05 PM
I'm absolutely appalled if what I'm seeing today is accurate. Yesterday there was a "Prayer March" in DC ending at the Mall around the Reflection Pool. There were supposedly 10s of thousands of participants and from videos I've just seen that's probably accurate. What I didn't see in the shoulder to shoulder crowd were masks. There were literally a handful and only a handful of mask wearers. Virtually none! I'm a Christian and I do believe the He is in control of everything. But He allows us freedom and expects us to USE the mind He gave us to look after ourselves and even more so others.

soonerguru
09-27-2020, 03:08 PM
I don't agree with a lot Bunty often says. But he is accurate that 93% of Oklahoma deaths have been in the over 65 group. It really hasn't been that deadly to anyone else. And I know, I know there are other lingering issues survivors have. I have some of them but thankfully some of mine are very slowly fading.

Over 1,000 deaths in Oklahoma and people are still talking about this. SMMFH.

TheTravellers
09-27-2020, 03:11 PM
I'm absolutely appalled if what I'm seeing today is accurate. Yesterday there was a "Prayer March" in DC ending at the Mall around the Reflection Pool. There were supposedly 10s of thousands of participants and from videos I've just seen that's probably accurate. What I didn't see in the shoulder to shoulder crowd were masks. There were literally a handful and only a handful of mask wearers. Virtually none! I'm a Christian and I do believe the He is in control of everything. But He allows us freedom and expects us to USE the mind He gave us to look after ourselves and even more so others.

A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

Bill Robertson
09-27-2020, 03:22 PM
A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"I just said He expects us to use our minds. Not that we actually do.

TheTravellers
09-27-2020, 04:38 PM
I just said He expects us to use our minds. Not that we actually do.

Yep, what you said reminded me of that story. Also, someone posted a while back that we've been given/invented science, tools, technology, etc., so why don't we use those instead of just sitting there like bumps on a log and just praying. I'm not religious, but yeah, use the tools at our disposal that whatever higher power "gave" us, especially our brains.

rezman
09-27-2020, 05:16 PM
I'm absolutely appalled if what I'm seeing today is accurate. Yesterday there was a "Prayer March" in DC ending at the Mall around the Reflection Pool. There were supposedly 10s of thousands of participants and from videos I've just seen that's probably accurate. What I didn't see in the shoulder to shoulder crowd were masks. There were literally a handful and only a handful of mask wearers. Virtually none! I'm a Christian and I do believe the He is in control of everything. But He allows us freedom and expects us to USE the mind He gave us to look after ourselves and even more so others.

He IS In control Bill, and He also gives us the gift of free will, and to make choices. The majority of the the time, we fail to realize how powerful of a gift that really is.

Pete
09-28-2020, 11:06 AM
861 new cases today. 7-day rolling average 1,041.

2 additional deaths.

579 hospitalized.

149 cases in OK County.

d-usa
09-28-2020, 11:12 AM
It feels like we crossed the 1,000 death mark without much fanfare or rememberance.

Rover
09-28-2020, 11:24 AM
Non hepa filters rated MERV-13 can catch most viruses, but are more expensive.


He IS In control Bill, and He also gives us the gift of free will, and to make choices. The majority of the the time, we fail to realize how powerful of a gift that really is.

But, with free comes responsibility. And we will all be judged by what we do with our free will. Saying you are a Christian or of faith means nothing if you presume to know God but ignore your responsibilities. Evangelicals should be the FIRST to act using the tools God gave us to protect and serve our fellow beings. Anything else is just hypocrisy.

jn1780
09-28-2020, 12:53 PM
What's happening in Europe will determine how bad this will actually be in the winter.

Lets assume all these cases are real and not just PCR detecting old Covid.
https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=countries&highlight=United%20Kingdom&show=highlight-only&y=highlight&scale=linear&data=cases-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=left&extra=France%2CSpain%2CGermany&extraData=deaths-daily-7&extraDataScale=separately#countries

That's means the case counts early in the pandemic were nowhere near the actual number hence why the death graph was higher early on than the case count graph when using different scales.

Was there really any hope of locking down without Covid coming roaring back? Again assuming these are real cases in Europe, seems like we only notice the deaths at very top of the curve when covid actually finds low hanging fruit after being out of control for awhile.

kukblue1
09-28-2020, 12:58 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/everyone-over-45-could-been-22749117 an over 45 lock down. NO it's never going to happen and it's probably too late now to do something like this but a month or two into this I always thought let's give the older population stimulus checks to stay home. We were giving 600 a week for people on unemployment. Maybe we should of redirected that money to older working adults to stay home. Just a thought. We did a very poor job in the beginning protecting the older population.

Pete
09-28-2020, 01:01 PM
Over the weekend, OKC, Milwood and Putnam City schools all halted all sports activities due to rise Covid levels in OK County.

No practice, no games. Really stinks for the kids and coaches, especially the seniors.

soonerguru
09-28-2020, 02:33 PM
Sad story here about this 28-year-old Moore man clinging to life in a medically induced coma while being intubated. This is for the deflectors, diffusers, and deniers who continue to make pinheaded arguments about this only affecting people over the age of 65.

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/28-year-old-moore-man-battling-covid-19-texts-his-mom-thank-you-for-everything-before-going-into-coma/?fbclid=IwAR2dX24j0aNAK2PRXXiW8lHOLPFZ2fayyqe70zEi 4TdaDQ1QHeAnaVTTGVA

rezman
09-28-2020, 03:18 PM
But, with free comes responsibility. And we will all be judged by what we do with our free will. Saying you are a Christian or of faith means nothing if you presume to know God but ignore your responsibilities. Evangelicals should be the FIRST to act using the tools God gave us to protect and serve our fellow beings. Anything else is just hypocrisy.

Agreed.

kukblue1
09-28-2020, 05:01 PM
Sad story here about this 28-year-old Moore man clinging to life in a medically induced coma while being intubated. This is for the deflectors, diffusers, and deniers who continue to make pinheaded arguments about this only affecting people over the age of 65.

https://kfor.com/health/coronavirus/28-year-old-moore-man-battling-covid-19-texts-his-mom-thank-you-for-everything-before-going-into-coma/?fbclid=IwAR2dX24j0aNAK2PRXXiW8lHOLPFZ2fayyqe70zEi 4TdaDQ1QHeAnaVTTGVA

Sad yes but people under 35 shouldn't be living in fear over a virus that has less than .02% killing them. Just thinking of ways to stay safe and how to keep it from spreading to older people.

jerrywall
09-28-2020, 05:07 PM
Sad yes but people under 35 shouldn't be living in fear over a virus that has less than .02% killing them. They should be more worried about how to keep it from spreading to older people.

The problem is they should be worried (as should everyone) about how to keep it from spreading PERIOD. Focusing on not spreading it to old people will mean you still have young idiots spreading it around in the community. Even if little Billy doesn't spread it around to older people himself, by continuing to go out and act like there's no risk Billy is still spreading it around the community and someone who he spreads it to might spread it to an older or at risk person. This doesn't get solved by some "keep it from the old people" mindset.

kukblue1
09-28-2020, 05:20 PM
The problem is they should be worried (as should everyone) about how to keep it from spreading PERIOD. Focusing on not spreading it to old people will mean you still have young idiots spreading it around in the community. Even if little Billy doesn't spread it around to older people himself, by continuing to go out and act like there's no risk Billy is still spreading it around the community and someone who he spreads it to might spread it to an older or at risk person. This doesn't get solved by some "keep it from the old people" mindset.

There is going to be NO WAY we stop this thing from spreading. We can lower the deaths from keeping it from "the old People". This virus at this point is going to spread no matter what we do. We still haven't learned to live with it. You have one group of people OMG MY GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE. DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE Then you have another set oh it's no big deal it's only killing older population. How about we find some common ground where we can protect the older population, which is more vulnerable and still let the younger crowed live their lives as normal as possible.

The media finds these one or two stories about young people and they run with it and they put the fear of god in people.

Bill Robertson
09-28-2020, 05:40 PM
There is going to be NO WAY we stop this thing from spreading. We can lower the deaths from keeping it from "the old People". This virus at this point is going to spread no matter what we do. We still haven't learned to live with it. You have one group of people OMG MY GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE. DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE Then you have another set oh it's no big deal it's only killing older population. How about we find some common ground where we can protect the older population, which is more vulnerable and still let the younger crowed live their lives as normal as possible.

The media finds these one or two stories about young people and they run with it and they put the fear of god in people.Two problems I see. One, people aren't any more likely to adhere to your plan even if mandated than they are any other plan. Two, in these six months of going into Home Depot, Lowe's, Homeland, Crest and Walgreens a large percentage of the people I see not wearing masks or paying any attention to safety precautions are people my age or older. That puts them in the vulnerable age group because I'm just below it. If they won't even look out for themselves how are you going to get the rest of the public to do so.

kukblue1
09-28-2020, 07:19 PM
Two problems I see. One, people aren't any more likely to adhere to your plan even if mandated than they are any other plan. Two, in these six months of going into Home Depot, Lowe's, Homeland, Crest and Walgreens a large percentage of the people I see not wearing masks or paying any attention to safety precautions are people my age or older. That puts them in the vulnerable age group because I'm just below it. If they won't even look out for themselves how are you going to get the rest of the public to do so.

You do have a good point there. The tire shop I went into last week where no one was wearing a mask seemed like everyone over 40 no mask and the couple younger people did. Home Depot same thing. Let's face it only way we get out of this is vaccine or a very good treatment

Oh and sadly the guy did pass away. He now makes 12th person under 35 to die of covid. 11 in the 18-35 age group.

kukblue1
09-28-2020, 07:24 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/28/covid-19-tests-that-give-results-in-minutes-to-be-rolled-out-across-world Not quite a game changer in my book but a very good start. If you could buy something over the counter for $5 and test at home then that would be a game changer.

Bill Robertson
09-28-2020, 07:48 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/28/covid-19-tests-that-give-results-in-minutes-to-be-rolled-out-across-world Not quite a game changer in my book but a very good start. If you could buy something over the counter for $5 and test at home then that would be a game changer.I don't think many more people would test than now. If they don't take it seriously they just don't. Too many people still think it's just a media or govt concocted frenzy. Also, the article doesn't say anything about them being available over the counter and the $5 price tag is for low and medium income countries.
I give you an A for effort in looking for quick, easy answers but there aren't any. But keep trying, you never know.

C_M_25
09-28-2020, 08:20 PM
There is going to be NO WAY we stop this thing from spreading. We can lower the deaths from keeping it from "the old People". This virus at this point is going to spread no matter what we do. We still haven't learned to live with it. You have one group of people OMG MY GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE. DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE Then you have another set oh it's no big deal it's only killing older population. How about we find some common ground where we can protect the older population, which is more vulnerable and still let the younger crowed live their lives as normal as possible.

The media finds these one or two stories about young people and they run with it and they put the fear of god in people.

I actually agree with this 100%. Everyone is so polarized regarding this virus. It’s also entrenched heavily in politics which is a huge no no as far as pandemics are concerned.

To the other points below. There is literally nothing you can do to control what other people do in public spaces. NOTHING. All you can do is control your situation and try and not stress about the rest. Wear a mask. Don’t go to a bar/restaurant. Go to virtual church services. Go shopping in early/late hours. Etc etc. Do these things, and even if you do catch it, you’ll likely fair better as you limited your exposure as much as possible. As our pediatrician said. There’s no easy answers with this. You can do EVERYTHING right and still catch it.

kukblue1
09-28-2020, 08:58 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tests-coronavirus/index.html I'm saying this is a good start but until we get something that is over the counter we are not changing the game. A test you can go buy and take a home would be a game changer. Even a test you can get at doctor office would be a game changer. You could get a flu test and covid test at the same time an know by the end of the day which one you might have.

C_M_25
09-28-2020, 09:07 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tests-coronavirus/index.html I'm saying this is a good start but until we get something that is over the counter we are not changing the game. A test you can go buy and take a home would be a game changer. Even a test you can get at doctor office would be a game changer. You could get a flu test and covid test at the same time an know by the end of the day which one you might have.

It’s good to see more progress made on testing. I’m excited about the saliva-based test developed by Yale that the NBA has been testing. This test was recently FDA approved. The cost is less than $10 and you can get samples within minutes by using equipment already in most dr offices.

d-usa
09-28-2020, 11:58 PM
If we can have more frequent and faster testing, the risk of false negatives is also minimized and they become less of a factor. If you only take 1 test, a 10% false negative rate is pretty significant. But if you can test frequently, it’s less of a factor because you will get a true result more often than not.

Bunty
09-29-2020, 01:22 AM
Stillwater Medical activates surge plan to deal with spike in COVID-19 hospitalizations.
https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/stillwater-medical-activates-surge-plan-to-deal-with-spike-in-covid-19-hospitalizations/article_709411de-01e5-11eb-aba9-fb2af5146559.html

Stillwater Medical Center reaches ICU capacity.
https://www.ocolly.com/news/stillwater-medical-center-reaches-icu-capacity/article_af277340-01b4-11eb-82af-8bd440a5c06e.html

soonerguru
09-29-2020, 01:54 AM
There is going to be NO WAY we stop this thing from spreading. We can lower the deaths from keeping it from "the old People". This virus at this point is going to spread no matter what we do. We still haven't learned to live with it. You have one group of people OMG MY GOD EVERYONE IS GOING TO DIE. DON'T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE Then you have another set oh it's no big deal it's only killing older population. How about we find some common ground where we can protect the older population, which is more vulnerable and still let the younger crowed live their lives as normal as possible.

The media finds these one or two stories about young people and they run with it and they put the fear of god in people.

OK. You're a "wave the white flag, we're all gonna get it" guy. So, going forward, I will pay no attention to anything you have to say, because you are not commenting on how to contain the spread of this. You are assuming its spread is a foregone conclusion, so, yeah, I really don't care what you have to say, because it will do nothing to improve the situation, and only provide some weird justification for the maskholes that are screwing our state and country with their willful disregard.

soonerguru
09-29-2020, 01:56 AM
Hey, Bunty, wondering if you think this is something people other than 65-plus should now be concerned about in Stillwater.

https://www.ocolly.com/news/stillwater-medical-center-reaches-icu-capacity/article_af277340-01b4-11eb-82af-8bd440a5c06e.html

Pete
09-29-2020, 07:57 AM
I've been tracking the per capita new cases by state.

These are the numbers for the last 8 days; # of cases is per 1,000,000.

The thing that stands out is the rapid up-swing in the middle of the country:

1 North Dakota 4,498
2 South Dakota 3,736
3 Wisconsin 2,877
4 Utah 2,775
5 Oklahoma 2,236
5 Iowa 2,236
7 Idaho 2,189
8 Arkansas 2,169
9 Montana 2,137
10 Kansas 2,086

Bill Robertson
09-29-2020, 08:49 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/28/politics/donald-trump-tests-coronavirus/index.html Even a test you can get at doctor office would be a game changer. You could get a flu test and covid test at the same time an know by the end of the day which one you might have.
You can do this now.

Bill Robertson
09-29-2020, 08:57 AM
If we can have more frequent and faster testing, the risk of false negatives is also minimized and they become less of a factor. If you only take 1 test, a 10% false negative rate is pretty significant. But if you can test frequently, it’s less of a factor because you will get a true result more often than not.I'm afraid if mega numbers of rapid tests become available there's a LARGE number of people that won't test anyway. So it won't make much difference if they're available but not used. Then there's the other side. If more people do get "randomly" tested there WILL be more positives to report, which will make the numbers go up when the spread rate really hasn't changed. So graphs and trends will be totally wonky again.

jedicurt
09-29-2020, 09:11 AM
so wait... let me get this straight. because a low population state like Oklahoma is seeing significant increases, but some much more populated states that have done stricter methods of controlling spread are seeing much more success, our view is that others (but not those making this statement) are making it political and you just can't control the spread, so why try???? i'm going to have to let that sink in for a bit here....

Anonymous.
09-29-2020, 10:10 AM
I've been tracking the per capita new cases by state.

These are the numbers for the last 8 days; # of cases is per 1,000,000.

The thing that stands out is the rapid up-swing in the middle of the country:

1 North Dakota 4,498
2 South Dakota 3,736
3 Wisconsin 2,877
4 Utah 2,775
5 Oklahoma 2,236
5 Iowa 2,236
7 Idaho 2,189
8 Arkansas 2,169
9 Montana 2,137
10 Kansas 2,086

This list being led by the Dakotas is insane to think about how little amount of people live there.

Rover
09-29-2020, 10:15 AM
This list being led by the Dakotas is insane to think about how little amount of people live there.
Yes, it would seem social distancing is a given. :)

TheTravellers
09-29-2020, 10:30 AM
Yes, it would seem social distancing is a given. :)

I believe SD's governor has been worse than almost any other governor during this pandemic, but I could be wrong. Don't know why ND is so bad, though, haven't heard much/done much research about that state's policies (or apparently, lack thereof).

Pete
09-29-2020, 10:34 AM
This list being led by the Dakotas is insane to think about how little amount of people live there.

Their numbers shot way up after the Trump Rushmore event and Sturgis.

Before that, they had very few cases.

Pete
09-29-2020, 11:12 AM
1,025 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 1,021.

11 additional deaths reported.

618 hospitalized.

157 new cases in OK County.

soonerguru
09-29-2020, 12:45 PM
Pete, I have no evidence, but I read on another forum that a fairly significant amount of Covid patients from Oklahoma are currently in Texas and Kansas hospitals.

Are you aware of this?

Pete
09-29-2020, 12:54 PM
Pete, I have no evidence, but I read on another forum that a fairly significant amount of Covid patients from Oklahoma are currently in Texas and Kansas hospitals.

Are you aware of this?

No, I don't know anything about this.

Bill Robertson
09-29-2020, 01:19 PM
No, I don't know anything about this.
This was posted on Oklahoma Source a couple days ago. Followed by a request for a source that never happened and some other "I've heard" comments.

kukblue1
09-29-2020, 01:22 PM
OK. You're a "wave the white flag, we're all gonna get it" guy. So, going forward, I will pay no attention to anything you have to say, because you are not commenting on how to contain the spread of this. You are assuming its spread is a foregone conclusion, so, yeah, I really don't care what you have to say, because it will do nothing to improve the situation, and only provide some weird justification for the maskholes that are screwing our state and country with their willful disregard.

You tell me since your an expert how Florida with the population of 21 million people has less cases than Oklahoma with a population of 4 million people. Social distancing is the best way to stop the spread of the virus doesn't mean you have to close everything down you just need to stay away from people as much as possible. And I don't want to hear about how the Dakota's are spread out and they have social distance they have towns and cities just like we do. If you think paper mask are the only answer your fooling yourself.

Pete
09-29-2020, 01:27 PM
You tell me since your an expert how Florida with the population of 21 million people has less cases than Oklahoma with a population of 4 million people.

For one thing, Florida has had all their bars and clubs completely closed until last Friday.

They also had restrictions on restaurant capacity.

All of this was done statewide, as opposed 'I'll leave it up to the cities but don't think they can enforce anything' attitude here.