Are we really back to the discredited "we have more sick people because we test more" craziness? If anything, we should be concerned about all we don't test and know about who are going about spreading it in the general population that will lead to more sickness and more death.Actually the fact that we've been staying right around 9% positivity and the average new cases have closely followed the same curve as test results processed can't be argued.
However, this doesn't make the situation look better, it only supports your point that we should be extremely concerned about the numbers of people spreading the virus that aren't being tested. If we averaged 100,000 tests per day or 1,000,000 tests per day it's perfectly logical to expect we'd see 10,000 or 100,000 positive results per day. Everyone just needs to go about things as if everyone, including yourself, has the virus.

Yesterday, Oklahoma was #8 in new per capita cases.

And we've now passed California, once considered a raging hotbed, in total cases per capita.

Yesterday, Oklahoma was #8 in new per capita cases.

And we've now passed California, once considered a raging hotbed, in total cases per capita.

we are shooting for number 1.... all of those people on here who always say they are tired of seeing Oklahoma the bottom of lists, are going to get their wish granted!!!

Top Ten State, Baby!

Hold on for a moment while I pull down my gaiter and breathe my vapors into your face.

We've been this bad for many weeks.

Numbers for today are delayed due to 'techincal difficulties'.

Did they have a news conference earlier?

I could be wrong but didn't we have record numbers or close to record numbers the last couple times this has happen. They probably are shocked by the numbers and want to double check them.

Did they have a news conference earlier?

Department of Health did, yes.

The state is in the second wave now. This one is already exceeding the outbreak we saw in July through early August, and the hard-headedness of so many Oklahomans (even willful delusion) indicates this is going to get way, way worse. I think it will get bad enough we will see a second shutdown, because stubborn stupidity and rudderless leadership.

I don't think there will be a second shutdown as long as the most vulnerable people are taking precautions. They appear to be doing a good enough job of doing that for now. Those over 65 make up only 13.39% of cases. In the early going it was much higher than that.

Those very low death rates in all age groups could make too many people complacent. If available, I'd like to see the percentage of infected people who still feel less than well after testing negative. The long term effects, though, are surely a still developing story.

I don't think there will be a second shutdown as long as the most vulnerable people are taking precautions. They appear to be doing a good enough job of doing that for now. Those over 65 make up only 13.39% of cases. In the early going it was much higher than that.

Those very low death rates in all age groups could make too many people complacent. If available, I'd like to see the percentage of infected people who still feel less than well after testing negative. The long term effects, though, are surely a still developing story.

Not trying to get this board in a uproar but I think I read somewhere if your under 35 you are 5 times more likely to die in a car crash and under 25 your more likely to die of the flu. I'm sure the story is somewhere others will find it but this is why another shut down will never happen. As far as long term effects still early to tell in young people but it doesn't look like a major deal as of now. Of course the media is going to find those people that are still sick and put them all over tv but overall as far as I can find from doctors is that it's low.

Edit: https://freopp.org/estimating-the-risk-of-death-from-covid-19-vs-influenza-or-pneumonia-by-age-630aea3ae5a9 Just one story so take it for what it's worth.

If available, I'd like to see the percentage of infected people who still feel less than well after testing negative. The long term effects, though, are surely a still developing story.

There's no good way to track how "complete" a person's recovery is, and Oklahoma using the metric of "discharged from hospital=recovery" is not capturing the full picture. Figuring out who will be a long -hauler and what traits they share is being looked at, but right now it's solely based on whether a "recovered" patient self-reports to a dr.

I could be wrong but didn't we have record numbers or close to record numbers the last couple times this has happen. They probably are shocked by the numbers and want to double check them.
That happened once months ago. There have been many delayed results since that the numbers were just what would be expected.

Not trying to get this board in a uproar but I think I read somewhere if your under 35 you are 5 times more likely to die in a car crash and under 25 your more likely to die of the flu. I'm sure the story is somewhere others will find it but this is why another shut down will never happen. As far as long term effects still early to tell in young people but it doesn't look like a major deal as of now. Of course the media is going to find those people that are still sick and put them all over tv but overall as far as I can find from doctors is that it's low.

We haven't even gone a full trip around the sun with this virus. COVID-19 is now the number four cause of death in the US. Young people may not necessarily die but they do experience serious symptoms, and long-term impacts are not fully known. Plus, as has been stated, young people don't live in isolation.

There's no good way to track how "complete" a person's recovery is, and Oklahoma using the metric of "discharged from hospital=recovery" is not capturing the full picture. Figuring out who will be a long -hauler and what traits they share is being looked at, but right now it's solely based on whether a "recovered" patient self-reports to a dr.
Yeah. The recovered stats aren't good. But since July 20 the CDC says you're good if:

Patients with mild to moderate illness who are not severely immunocompromised:
At least 10 days have passed since symptoms first appeared and
At least 24 hours have passed since last fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Symptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved

or

Patients with severe to critical illness or who are severely immunocompromised:
At least 10 days and up to 20 days have passed since symptoms first appeared and
At least 24 hours have passed since last fever without the use of fever-reducing medications and
Symptoms (e.g., cough, shortness of breath) have improved
Consider consultation with infection control experts

1,083 new cases today; an unprecedented 8 days in a row over 1,000.

7-day rolling average now 1,132, a new all-time high.

184 cases in OK County.

593 hospitalized.

11 reported statewide deaths.

1,083 new cases today; an unprecedented 8 days in a row over 1,000.

7-day rolling average now 1,132, a new all-time high.

184 cases in OK County.

593 hospitalized.

11 reported statewide deaths.

I am starting to believe that the only way to stop this is to just shut everything down for however long it takes. Could the state survive a 3-6 month total lockdown? It's obvious that masks and 6 ft. distance is not nearly enough to stop the spread. So what's left? Lockdown? If Biden gets elected he might have to force a lockdown in certain areas if the numbers keep rising. Trump will not do this

I am starting to believe that the only way to stop this is to just shut everything down for however long it takes. Could the state survive a 3-6 month total lockdown? It's obvious that masks and 6 ft. distance is not nearly enough to stop the spread. So what's left? Lockdown? If Biden gets elected he might have to force a lockdown in certain areas if the numbers keep rising. Trump will not do this

I posted this at least once, way back months ago, worth posting again, and please read the entire article, not just my excerpt.

https://coronavirus.medium.com/we-can-eliminate-covid-19-if-we-want-to-64abc91ccc1c

"Let’s say we threw the kitchen sink at Covid-19 in the U.S. Let’s say we started now with the goal of being open for business in October — meaning schools, in-person voting, sports, everything. If we did everything. What would happen?

So let’s define the kitchen sink:

1. Start with universal mask wearing. We didn’t do this in March and April, and let’s chalk it up to faulty instructions. But we know better now.

2. Keep the bars and restaurants and churches and transit closed. All hot spots.

3. Prohibit interstate travel.

4. Prohibit travel into the country (no one will let us into their country so that shouldn’t be hard).

5. Have hotels set up to allow people with symptoms to isolate from their families at no cost.

6. Instead of 50% lockdown (which is what we did in March and April), let’s say it’s a 90% lockdown. Meaning most of the Americans who couldn’t stay home in April because they were picking crops or driving trucks or working in health care would stay home with us."

But we have super-sh***y "leadership" that won't do any of those things, so we're screwed. Not sure if we could ever do numbers 3 and 4 totally, but the rest are do-able, if we had real governments at the federal and state levels that would actually care about the long-term health of their citizens rather than the short-term consumer economy.

Really, if we and other states just followed the guidelines provided by the white house task force, that would solve 90% of this.

A big part of this is ALL leaders getting behind the guidelines instead of mocking, disregarding and claiming there is no way to enforce.

Really, if we and other states just followed the guidelines provided by the white house task force, that would solve 90% of this.

A big part of this is ALL leaders getting behind the guidelines instead of mocking, disregarding and claiming there is no way to enforce.

Be nice if companies hired some of millions of unemployed to work as mask enforcers, and empower them to confront, throw out, and if necessary, call 911 to report maskholes as trespassers if they refuse to leave after being asked to do so or wear a mask.

Quick update on the cases & deaths trend. Y axis value for cases now increased to account for new record high cases.

The 7-day average case record has been broken on 9-21, 9-22, 9-23, and 9-24 by my count. The daily case trend seems to show some signs the rate of increase is slowing... but this is worse than I could have imagined.

https://i.imgur.com/thTD8Ut.png

I posted this at least once, way back months ago, worth posting again, and please read the entire article, not just my excerpt.

https://coronavirus.medium.com/we-can-eliminate-covid-19-if-we-want-to-64abc91ccc1c

"Let’s say we threw the kitchen sink at Covid-19 in the U.S. Let’s say we started now with the goal of being open for business in October — meaning schools, in-person voting, sports, everything. If we did everything. What would happen?

So let’s define the kitchen sink:

1. Start with universal mask wearing. We didn’t do this in March and April, and let’s chalk it up to faulty instructions. But we know better now.

2. Keep the bars and restaurants and churches and transit closed. All hot spots.

3. Prohibit interstate travel.

4. Prohibit travel into the country (no one will let us into their country so that shouldn’t be hard).

5. Have hotels set up to allow people with symptoms to isolate from their families at no cost.

6. Instead of 50% lockdown (which is what we did in March and April), let’s say it’s a 90% lockdown. Meaning most of the Americans who couldn’t stay home in April because they were picking crops or driving trucks or working in health care would stay home with us."

But we have super-sh***y "leadership" that won't do any of those things, so we're screwed. Not sure if we could ever do numbers 3 and 4 totally, but the rest are do-able, if we had real governments at the federal and state levels that would actually care about the long-term health of their citizens rather than the short-term consumer economy.

We still need rapid response testing, and lots of it.

We still need rapid response testing, and lots of it.

We have it. People just don't care.

It's obvious that masks and 6 ft. distance is not nearly enough to stop the spread.

In all due respect, that's not obvious at all. It would only be obvious if we were all doing that and it wasn't working. But, we're not, so you can't draw that conclusion.

Mandates or guidelines do not equal compliance. What IS obvious is that not everyone is simply wearing masks in public or avoiding large indoor gatherings.

The reality is that any future lockdowns would not be because masks and distancing are "not nearly enough to stop the spread". It would be because many people refused to do those things.

We don't have to have lockdowns to contain the virus. We just have to give a ****. And, unfortunately, that can't be mandated.

I am starting to believe that the only way to stop this is to just shut everything down for however long it takes. Could the state survive a 3-6 month total lockdown? It's obvious that masks and 6 ft. distance is not nearly enough to stop the spread. So what's left? Lockdown? If Biden gets elected he might have to force a lockdown in certain areas if the numbers keep rising. Trump will not do this
I could be wrong but isn't shutting EVERYTHING down for 3 months or more pretty much what Italy and NYC did ? Look at the severe upward trends in both of those places since reopening. I don't think a complete lockdown will work unless we're willing to do it indefinitely and put ourselves in an NBA or NHL type bubble. And unfortunately I don't think we'd like the world we'd come out to after a year or more of complete shut down. If you reopen with any cases out there to spread the virus it won't be long before numbers are scary again. We won't be done with this virus until we have a proven vaccine and can get it distributed. The best course of action would be a universal mask and distancing law. But that's a whole new can of worms especially right now when police are looked at by so many as an abusive enemy so who could effectively enforce mask and distancing laws. The virus plus the unrelated social unrest is the perfect storm for a virus. There just isn't a good answer to this virus.

in all due respect, that's not obvious at all. It would only be obvious if we were all doing that and it wasn't working. But, we're not, so you can't draw that conclusion.

Mandates or guidelines do not equal compliance. What is obvious is that not everyone is simply wearing masks in public or avoiding large indoor gatherings.

The reality is that any future lockdowns would not be because masks and distancing are "not nearly enough to stop the spread". It would be because many people refused to do those things.

We don't have to have lockdowns to contain the virus. We just have to give a ****. And, unfortunately, that can't be mandated.

amen!!!

Oh god I'm going to get attacked but I'm used to it by now so here it goes. WE are not shutting down the country for something for people under the age of 50 that has a Currently in Oklahoma .07% chance of killing you. Being older over 50 like I am does sucks but i'm the one that has changed my lifestyle. Last week was the first time I went to the casino in 6 months. I still haven't been in a supermarket in 6 months. I still haven't been to a sit down restaurants in 6 months . I know not everyone can do that is older and it sucks but shutting down everything will cause so much more harm than good. Hell there still a lot of things that will never recover of all this.

Guys, we are not shutting down this economy. You guys are only looking at this from one perspective: stopping covid at all costs. Life isn’t that black and white though. Our economy is on very shaky ground at best. Things have recovered to some degree, but there are signals all over the place that things aren’t as strong as the Dow currently indicates. This disease is scary. It’s super contagious and it kills at a much higher rate than the flu. There’s a lot we don’t know about the long term. However, shutting everything down will crush this economy. It would be absolutely devastating. .

I am starting to believe that the only way to stop this is to just shut everything down for however long it takes. Could the state survive a 3-6 month total lockdown? It's obvious that masks and 6 ft. distance is not nearly enough to stop the spread. So what's left? Lockdown? If Biden gets elected he might have to force a lockdown in certain areas if the numbers keep rising. Trump will not do this

The state had a plenty rough enough time surviving the partial shutdown and best that much not be repeated. One still can't see a Thunder game. I don't see the need for any lockdowns or partial shutdowns as long as local hospitals don't become overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients. If that was going to happen, it should have by now. As we get closer to winter, I don't think many more older people past age 65 want to risk coming down with COVID-19.

Great just great. https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-mutation-emerges-that-may-bypass-mask-wearing-hand-washing-protections

Great just great. https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavirus-mutation-emerges-that-may-bypass-mask-wearing-hand-washing-protections

This mutation has been around since May at least. This is just an attention grabbing article.

Here’s a question for you all. There has been some good news out of China in regards to their vaccine. It’s currently on ph 3 trials in Brazil, but apparently, it is leaps and bounds ahead of our vaccines as far as development is concerned. Take the good news part with a grain of salt as we know how China can be.

Would you take a Chinese vaccine for covid??

Also, results from their trials will be published in the coming weeks/month.

I have been pontificating a lot lately in how we live with this virus assuming it never goes away. If anything, it really highlights how poorly we’re set up for disease in our lifestyles. I’m going to focus on air ventilation in buildings (movie theaters, restaurants, churches, etc). It’s interesting that we just typically recycle our air. Is that the right way to go about it?

I think back to my grandparents home. It’s older. They have an attic fan. You could tell when this thing came on as it had a vent to the house, so it would pull air out. It was obvious when it was working. Maybe we need to be installing similar systems in our modern buildings. Why recirculate the air? If you could pull the air out from above and bring in fresh air from the outside, you could effectively pump out covid or other viral particles. Given the size of these particles, you wouldn’t need much air flow. You just need some...

This mutation has been around since May at least. This is just an attention grabbing article.
Yep. This comes up every month or so. Not news.

1,276 new cases today, 2nd most ever. Now 9 straight days over 1,000.

7-day rolling average 1,136, yet another all-time high.

237 new cases in OK County.

590 total hospitalizations.

12 additional deaths.

Here’s a question for you all. There has been some good news out of China in regards to their vaccine. It’s currently on ph 3 trials in Brazil, but apparently, it is leaps and bounds ahead of our vaccines as far as development is concerned. Take the good news part with a grain of salt as we know how China can be.

Would you take a Chinese vaccine for covid??

Also, results from their trials will be published in the coming weeks/month.

Chinese Communist Party Vaccine? Nah don't think I would take it. They would prob. put a tracking device in there so they can monitor your every move.

They would prob. put a tracking device in there so they can monitor your every move.

You probably already carry one around with you every day.

1,276 new cases today, 2nd most ever. Now 9 straight days over 1,000.

7-day rolling average 1,136, yet another all-time high.

237 new cases in OK County.

590 total hospitalizations.

12 additional deaths.

Semi-hot take: No one cares about Covid anymore for the same reason no one cares about our ongoing wars. Until a bunch of rich famous white guys, or their children, start dying, nobody cares. Wars and viruses will be fought on the backs of the poor, the undereducated, the infirmed, the incarcerated, and POC.
Probably should be on the political thread but I've seen too many people in OKC not take this seriously because they are not directly touched.

Semi-hot take: No one cares about Covid anymore for the same reason no one cares about our ongoing wars. Until a bunch of rich famous white guys, or their children, start dying, nobody cares. Wars and viruses will be fought on the backs of the poor, the undereducated, the infirmed, the incarcerated, and POC.
Probably should be on the political thread but I've seen too many people in OKC not take this seriously because they are not directly touched.

This is absolutely true. I've met people that say exactly that - "Nobody I know has gotten it, so it can't be that big a deal."

Guys, we are not shutting down this economy. You guys are only looking at this from one perspective: stopping covid at all costs. Life isn’t that black and white though. Our economy is on very shaky ground at best. Things have recovered to some degree, but there are signals all over the place that things aren’t as strong as the Dow currently indicates. This disease is scary. It’s super contagious and it kills at a much higher rate than the flu. There’s a lot we don’t know about the long term. However, shutting everything down will crush this economy. It would be absolutely devastating. .

This state never had a true shutdown. During the teeth of the pandemic people were crowding Mathis Brothers and buying cars. Nearly every significant business was declared essential.

Bars and restaurants seem to be the only businesses that were truly shut down. And, even though they are "open" now, people aren't going there in the same numbers because it isn't safe, and it's objectively not safe because Oklahoma's dimbulb leadership has allowed this virus to spread out of control.

I want you to take a moment and consider this, please. The reason businesses are hanging on by a thread is because not enough people feel safe in the establishments to return. So, doing the status quo does not help those businesses one bit. Not at all. They are truly limping along.

As astute people said at the beginning: the virus controls the timetable. Because Oklahoma is being run by an absolute moron and 58% of Oklahomans think everything is just fine, the virus continues to rage out of control.

I think even a two-week shutdown might do some good, if only to remind people that shutdowns are possible if they don't do the right thing.

This is absolutely true. I've met people that say exactly that - "Nobody I know has gotten it, so it can't be that big a deal."

Not even knowing people. Turning on the news and seeing the same people on the news everyday. Going to you fast food place or coffee place and seeing the same people working. I had an older friend that quit working the market at Braums. Him and I still stay in touch with people that work there. 6 months and still no one has gotten sick. So yeah I can see how people think it's not all that bad. I catch myself all the time thinking that. I have friends on facebook right now on vacation. On set is in Florida on is in Nashville. My brother is a teacher in Michigan also doing stuff all the time has yet to get sick.

Here’s a question for you all. There has been some good news out of China in regards to their vaccine. It’s currently on ph 3 trials in Brazil, but apparently, it is leaps and bounds ahead of our vaccines as far as development is concerned. Take the good news part with a grain of salt as we know how China can be.

Would you take a Chinese vaccine for covid??

Also, results from their trials will be published in the coming weeks/month.

Any vaccine from any country would have to be approved by the FDA and studied here in the US. I'll trust it if it gets vetted thoroughly by our scientific community.

I still think the Oxford/AstraSenenca is the best shot. That most likely won't be widely available until Feb-April 2021 if all goes well.

This is absolutely true. I've met people that say exactly that - "Nobody I know has gotten it, so it can't be that big a deal."
Yes. This is still a big problem. My wife and I have worked the whole time. We both have a LOT of outside people come through our places of employment. No one at her office has reported having it. Here there's me and just this week one other guy. We have a niece that was barely symptomatic. I take this very seriously but I can actually kinda understand the rationale of those that don't. Mathematically it has a high transmission rate but relatively low serious symptom and mortality rate. Before I get jumped on I said mathematically. I don't want anyone to get sick, die or have permanent issues. But this virus just isn't like ebola which very few actually contracted but if you did there was a very good chance you wouldn't make it. Therefore people were much more scared of it.

I have been pontificating a lot lately in how we live with this virus assuming it never goes away. If anything, it really highlights how poorly we’re set up for disease in our lifestyles. I’m going to focus on air ventilation in buildings (movie theaters, restaurants, churches, etc). It’s interesting that we just typically recycle our air. Is that the right way to go about it?

I think back to my grandparents home. It’s older. They have an attic fan. You could tell when this thing came on as it had a vent to the house, so it would pull air out. It was obvious when it was working. Maybe we need to be installing similar systems in our modern buildings. Why recirculate the air? If you could pull the air out from above and bring in fresh air from the outside, you could effectively pump out covid or other viral particles. Given the size of these particles, you wouldn’t need much air flow. You just need some...This isn't getting to happen because people want it to be 70 to 75ish where they shop or dine. Cannot economically do that with 100% air replacement.

Bars and restaurants seem to be the only businesses that were truly shut down. And, even though they are "open" now, people aren't going there in the same numbers because it isn't safe, and it's objectively not safe because Oklahoma's dimbulb leadership has allowed this virus to spread out of control.

I want you to take a moment and consider this, please. The reason businesses are hanging on by a thread is because not enough people feel safe in the establishments to return. So, doing the status quo does not help those businesses one bit. Not at all. They are truly limping along.Where are these empty restaurants. I just pulled in my driveway and on the way home I pass BWW, Texas Roadhouse, Twin Peaks and all the others on I40 between MacArthur and Rockwell. Then everything on NW Expressway from Meridian to Rockwell. Every parking lot is at least half full and MANY are way more full than that. All those people have to be in somewhere. I might actually go to a empty restaurant just to get out.

https://kfor.com/news/okcps-transitions-to-orange-level-2-safety-protocols-after-several-staff-members-test-positive-for-covid-19/

What a surprise...

https://kfor.com/news/okcps-transitions-to-orange-level-2-safety-protocols-after-several-staff-members-test-positive-for-covid-19/

What a surprise...

Shocking, just shocking! I bet it will be even higher next week.

...

The reason businesses are hanging on by a thread is because not enough people feel safe in the establishments to return.
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So very much this. Personally, my constant fear and paranoia about the virus has died down significantly since May (when I went back to the office)/June/July. I'm in my 30's, very thin, good bloodwork results, low blood pressure, etc. I have loved ones at high risk though, and even though I figure I'm unlikely to die, I feel like I need to "Do my part" to stop spread. I've kinna just adapted to a super boring life that goes something like:

- Mon-Fri: Work -> Home-> Sleep -> Work.
- Big hauls at the grocery store every 4-6 weeks.
- Drive through pharmacy once every 30 days.
- Amazon: (Some foods)/Supplements/ OTC Medicines/etc.
- Since Valentines day: 1 restaurant meal on patio (August).
- Two family dinners at residence (~7 people).
- Delivery from local, family owned restaurants: ~2X monthly.

All the while, hoping things can go back to normal. I miss an unexpectedly long night at the bar with friends. I miss random calls from family & friends "hey we're in your part of town, wanna grab a bite/drink over at XYZ?".

Looking back at my spending habits in 2019... My god I have saved so much money. No random bar tabs in ~7 months. No $150+ special occasion dinners w/drinks. No company happy hours. No concerts. Etc. etc. etc. Bezos & Newegg certainly have benefited though.

To that end... I sure hope our local bar/restaurant/venue scene isn't too heavily damaged after this is said and done. I just have that upsetting feeling knowing that so many local places must be struggling so badly, I would like to patronize these establishments... yet, the virus rages on and I don't wan to catch & spread to make this thing worse.

You probably already carry one around with you every day.

No kidding. Also who's providing the unreasonably small chip that stays powered and who's providing the unlimited data it would take to constantly send all of that information?

A study looking at antibody results in dialysis estimates that less than 1% of Oklahomans have had the virus.

A study looking at antibody results in dialysis estimates that less than 1% of Oklahomans have had the virus.

This is simply not true.

There are 82,520 cases in Oklahoma. That is higher than 1% of the population.

A study looking at antibody results in dialysis estimates that less than 1% of Oklahomans have had the virus.

80,000 cases divided by 4,000,000 is .02 so that says that 2% have or had it. Plus there's the asymptomatic people that never got tested. Someone is wrong.

This isn't getting to happen because people want it to be 70 to 75ish where they shop or dine. Cannot economically do that with 100% air replacement.

Maybe you don’t need 100% replacement. Maybe you just need to move some air to help. Obviously, there’s no science to support this, but it could be an interesting way to use our technology to help.

80,000 cases divided by 4,000,000 is .02 so that says that 2% have or had it. Plus there's the asymptomatic people that never got tested. Someone is wrong.

They based that estimate on dialysis patients, so that would make it harder to estimate the whole population. I would guess that they take more precautions than the general population.

This isn't getting to happen because people want it to be 70 to 75ish where they shop or dine. Cannot economically do that with 100% air replacement.
Actually, you can. Use heat recovery ventilators. It’s easily done.

Maybe you don’t need 100% replacement. Maybe you just need to move some air to help. Obviously, there’s no science to support this, but it could be an interesting way to use our technology to help.

You don’t want air currents keeping it suspended in the air and passed around

Semi-hot take: No one cares about Covid anymore for the same reason no one cares about our ongoing wars. Until a bunch of rich famous white guys, or their children, start dying, nobody cares. Wars and viruses will be fought on the backs of the poor, the undereducated, the infirmed, the incarcerated, and POC.
Probably should be on the political thread but I've seen too many people in OKC not take this seriously because they are not directly touched.

RIGHT! Why be surprised if a lot of people aren't taking the COVID-19 seriously when prominent people keep coming up in the news as testing positive for the virus, but only have mild to even non-existent symptoms? The governor of Missouri and his wife are recent examples of how this is.

But I must say, though, that older people past 65 and in less than good health still need to do a better job of protecting themselves from this virus. That's where most of the deaths still are.

Actually, you can. Use heat recovery ventilators. It’s easily done.
We did at Kerr-McGee's R&D labs. Even with recovery it's very expensive to cool Oklahoma summer air to 70 degrees.

RIGHT! Why be surprised if a lot of people aren't taking the COVID-19 seriously when prominent people keep coming up in the news as testing positive for the virus, but only have mild to even non-existent symptoms? The governor of Missouri and his wife are recent examples of how this is.

But I must say, though, that older people past 65 and in less than good health still need to do a better job of protecting themselves from this virus. That's where most of the deaths still are.

Bruce Williamson, the former lead singer for The Temptations, died from the coronavirus on September 6, 2020. Williamson was a part of the R&B group from 2007 to 2015. He died in his Las Vegas home and was 49

Herman Cain, a former Republican presidential candidate, has died from coronavirus, his website shared on July 30. He was hospitalized less than two weeks after attending President Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma on June 20

Tony Award-nominated Broadway actor Nick Cordero died at the age of 41 due to complications from COVID-19.

Dan Foster, a radio personality, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at age 61 on June 17. Foster was a radio host in Nigeria, where he has been referred to as "the God of radio."

34-year-old singer Chris Trousdale died of health complications related to the coronavirus on June 2. Trousdale was known for singing and dancing in a boy band called Dream Street from 1999 to 2002.

Author H.G. Carrillo, who wrote the novel "Loosing My Espanish," died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 59, the Washington Post reported on May 22. Carrillo was on the board of the PEN/Faulkner Foundation and taught at George Washington University.

Actor BJ Hogg died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 65, Express confirmed on April 30. One of Hogg's most notables roles was on the HBO series Games of Thrones as Sir Addam Mabrand.

Troy Sneed, a grammy-nominated gospel singer, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 52, his friend, radio personality KD Bowe, confirmed on Instagram on April 27. Sneed released seven albums between 1999 and 2012.

Fredrick Thomas, a rapper from the Bronx, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 35 on April 23. A notable New York rapper for over a decade, he was known by fans as Fred the Godson.

American country folk singer-songwriter John Prine died of complications related to coronavirus, his family confirmed to Rolling Stone on April 7. He was 73. Yeah his older -- but one of my favorites.

Actor Jay Benedict died of health complications related to the novel coronavirus on April 4, his agency TCG, tweeted. Benedict appeared in some major films, including "Aliens" and "The Dark Knight Rises."

Adam Schlesinger, a Grammy, Tony, Oscar, and Emmy nominated musician and songwriter, died of health complications related to the coronavirus at 52

Well we started Monday with 628 in the Hospital and Friday were down to 579. So 49 less. I wish this was a little more detailed. How many left and how many came in? If we times it by 4 roughly 200 left meaning 150 came back in? Of the 579 in the Hospitals how many have been there for a week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks. Hospitalizations are a key number I added up the "number seen" and came up with 3,269. So in the last 5 days 3,269 went to the Hospital for Covid or for everything? Of those 3,269 how many were admitted?