Gotcha. I didn't mean to overreact to your comment. Truthfully, I don't know that many people who have gotten it. More like friends of friends. I do know three people personally who did, two of which have no underlying conditions and are relatively young, and they were effected severely.

I utterly detest when people rely on their limited group of friends to post anything authoritative about the virus. I only posted about the two I know so well to dispel the same myths I have seen repeated on this thread endlessly. At least people have finally quit comparing this to the flu! :)
I wouldn’t say very much that I post I consider authoritative. But I think even in this huge, highly interactive world most people rely on what they personally see with their own eyes as the way things really are. And based on people I know and many posts I read on many forums many people just haven’t really seen this virus. That is what it is.

I wouldn’t say very much that I post I consider authoritative. But I think even in this huge, highly interactive world most people rely on what they personally see with their own eyes as the way things really are. And based on people I know and many posts I read on many forums many people just haven’t really seen this virus. That is what it is.

Yeah. Just like my friend said in March: Okies are no match for an invisible enemy. By that measure we are actually doing ever so slightly better than might have been expected.

if Stitt had a modicum of leadership we may not be in the top 10 in the nation in cases per capita right now.

Yeah. Just like my friend said in March: Okies are no match for an invisible enemy. By that measure we are actually doing ever so slightly better than might have been expected.

if Stitt had a modicum of leadership we may not be in the top 10 in the nation in cases per capita right now.It’s so easy to blame a person when the real problem is the PEOPLE.

Yeah. Just like my friend said in March: Okies are no match for an invisible enemy. By that measure we are actually doing ever so slightly better than might have been expected.

if Stitt had a modicum of leadership we may not be in the top 10 in the nation in cases per capita right now.It’s so easy to blame a person when the real problem is the PEOPLE.

I blame both.

I blame both.OK. I’m down with that.

Not sure masking up is working. It might just have to run it's course. Pretty much everyone I see when I go inside a store has a mask on. I just don't think these masks help much if any. Pretty sure this virus is going to run it's course masks or not. Seems to me if the masking up was working we would be on a serious downward trend.

I didn't see but a very few people masking up on the White House Lawn the other night. Not arguing that this isn't a seriously wicked virus just don't believe that masks are slowing this thing down much if any.

Every page. Every single page of this thread we have to have one of these posts. Hundreds of posts, studies, and research. Still, every page. *face palm*

Every page. Every single page of this thread we have to have one of these posts. Hundreds of posts, studies, and research. Still, every page. *face palm*True.

Every page. Every single page of this thread we have to have one of these posts. Hundreds of posts, studies, and research. Still, every page. *face palm*

Well I guess we can throw out the numbers on the death count as they are about as inaccurate as can be according to the CDC. Now they say only 6% of the reported deaths are actually from the Covid Virus. What a huge sham this has been. It appears that the people have been mislead in a big way.

If you are under 65 and in decent health you are not dying from this virus. Sure there will be a very rare exception but if your healthy and under 65 the chances of you dying from this virus is so small it doesn't even register.

Well I guess we can throw out the numbers on the death count as they are about as inaccurate as can be according to the CDC. Now they say only 6% of the reported deaths are actually from the Covid Virus. What a huge sham this has been. It appears that the people have been mislead in a big way.


literally not what the cdc said...

the CDC did not say the death rate of Covid-19 among those currently reported is only 6%... it says that 6% of the deaths have been in people not over age 65, and not 18 and older with an underlying health condition.
here is what they are actually saying. the US is divided into two categories... one category makes up 37.6% of the population (92.6 Million people).. that group is everyone over age 65, and everyone over age 18 with an underlying health condition. everyone else is in group two... the CDC is saying that 6% of deaths have come from group 2, and the other 94% have come from group 1. that is is... they are saying that the group they told us back in March had the highest chance of death, is overwhelmingly seeing the highest deaths.

this isn't that hard... try actually reading

UPDATE SINCE OP UPDATED theirs... yes. if you fall in that one group you are just as safe as the cdc said you would be before hand... but that doesn't mean we just condemn the nearly 40% of the population that doesn't fall into that group.

Figured I'd get some graph action going now that we've got all the August data.

Summary
With August data complete, not many surprises at this point. August cases wound up almost identical to July (-1.2%) deaths increased 68.2% Month-over-month, and August deaths increased 30% over April, the previous record.
https://i.imgur.com/0Uhflkh.png

Averages
As Pete mentioned, month ends with a peak in the 7-day case average. I've noted 5 new records for the 7-day death average in August.
https://i.imgur.com/QcaxCWY.png

Same data - but all the way back to April 1st for reference during "first wave":
https://i.imgur.com/zJlgbdG.png

7/14/21 Day Case Averages - somewhat concerning short-term trend here, where we see the 7 day leading an increase in the 14 and 21 day averages:
https://i.imgur.com/ibbXzHe.png


Hospitalizations vs. Deaths
Haven't posted hospital #'s in a while, but they've basically been the same for about a month now. Plotted against the 14-day death average, I'm not entirely sure what to conclude here.

Are patients simply dying at roughly the same rate they are being admitted? Is there some ceiling - either imposed via hospital policy or due to other constraints that has kept the number of patients flat? I feel like this plot provides more questions than answers.

(*Note - the Saturday and Sunday counts are simply a copy of the Friday #'s here.)

https://i.imgur.com/RFFsdn8.png

If you're on a computer, you can right-click images and view in tab if you would like to zoom in.

Stay safe out there - while part of me wants to think the worst is behind us, I've got a bad feeling about being at such a relatively high daily case count with Fall knocking on the door.

literally not what the cdc said...

the CDC did not say the death rate of Covid-19 among those currently reported is only 6%... it says that 6% of the deaths have been in people not over age 65, and not 18 and older with an underlying health condition.
here is what they are actually saying. the US is divided into two categories... one category makes up 37.6% of the population (92.6 Million people).. that group is everyone over age 65, and everyone over age 18 with an underlying health condition. everyone else is in group two... the CDC is saying that 6% of deaths have come from group 2, and the other 94% have come from group 1. that is is... they are saying that the group they told us back in March had the highest chance of death, is overwhelmingly seeing the highest deaths.

this isn't that hard... try actually reading

UPDATE SINCE OP UPDATED theirs... yes. if you fall in that one group you are just as safe as the cdc said you would be before hand... but that doesn't mean we just condemn the nearly 40% of the population that doesn't fall into that group.

I don't think it matters of course, because the group with one or more other causes matter too, but the CDC is clearly talking about all groups in their summary over the comorbidities table. This isn't new information, we knew for a long time that this virus hits people with pre-existing conditions the worse. This country was suffering from a "pandemic" of obesity and heart disease before Covid so 94% having a pre-existing condition isn't all that surprising.


Comorbidities
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

Big thanks to Pete and pw405 for the data updates.

That is all.

Are patients simply dying at roughly the same rate they are being admitted? Is there some ceiling - either imposed via hospital policy or due to other constraints that has kept the number of patients flat? I feel like this plot provides more questions than answers.

Stay safe out there - while part of me wants to think the worst is behind us, I've got a bad feeling about being at such a relatively high daily case count with Fall knocking on the door.

Good questions, I tend to believe that hospitalizations are slow to fall because there is less pressure for hospitals to release or not take in more covid patients to make more room. They can be extra cautious with patients.

The seasonal effect is the elephant in the room. I think it will lead to some increase maybe even a spike.

I have started downloading the county dataset from the county health department and it looks like a lot of this 3 day increase in cases came from Muskogee. Looking more into it, they came from the women's prison up there.

Top 12 Counties - I assume UNKNOWN are out of state students mostly?

County Daily Cases 8-31
MUSKOGEE 161
OKLAHOMA 79
UNKNOWN 78
TULSA 58
CLEVELAND 48
PAYNE 35
COMANCHE 26
CANADIAN 23
CHEROKEE 22
GARFIELD 20
POTTAWATOMIE 11

Not sure masking up is working. It might just have to run it's course. Pretty much everyone I see when I go inside a store has a mask on. I just don't think these masks help much if any. Pretty sure this virus is going to run it's course masks or not. Seems to me if the masking up was working we would be on a serious downward trend.

I didn't see but a very few people masking up on the White House Lawn the other night. Not arguing that this isn't a seriously wicked virus just don't believe that masks are slowing this thing down much if any.

Masks don't work? Aren't hospitalizations not building? Stillwater Hospital only has 2 covid patients. I would hope masks are better than nothing by allowing in less of the virus, thereby leading to less severe cases.

By the same argument I could shoot somebody, and of they die during surgery because they are obese and have COPD I didn’t kill them...

By the same argument I could shoot somebody, and of they die during surgery because they are obese and have COPD I didn’t kill them...

According to one of our Paramedics who also works in a metro ER as a side gig, yes that would be counted in the COVID numbers based off of scenarios he explained to us.

According to one of our Paramedics who also works in a metro ER as a side gig, yes that would be counted in the COVID numbers based off of scenarios he explained to us.
Good thing the paramedic isn’t responsible for assigning cause of death, that is totally not how it works. There is a primary cause and contributing causes.

Well I guess we can throw out the numbers on the death count as they are about as inaccurate as can be according to the CDC. Now they say only 6% of the reported deaths are actually from the Covid Virus. What a huge sham this has been. It appears that the people have been mislead in a big way.

If you are under 65 and in decent health you are not dying from this virus. Sure there will be a very rare exception but if your healthy and under 65 the chances of you dying from this virus is so small it doesn't even register.

You should make a note of who told you that bit about the CDC and never trust or believe anything they say ever again. They are misrepresenting data in a way that will almost certainly get more people killed.

You should make a note of who told you that bit about the CDC and never trust or believe anything they say ever again. They are misrepresenting data in a way that will almost certainly get more people killed.

I mean, that data is from the CDC. However, 6% of healthy people dying is still kinda alarming.

OKC City Council currently debating on extending the Mask Ordinance till nov.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh3h-Si0G7I

Just in case you want to hear, what i am SURE, is going to be a very fun public comment section.

Public Comments are starting now.

I mean, that data is from the CDC. However, 6% of healthy people dying is still kinda alarming.

The misrepresentation is the claim that the CDC has started saying that only 6% of the deaths previously reported for the pandemic are actually from the virus. It's false because what people are doing is pulling only the deaths that have no additional cause of death listed and claiming they're the only real COVID-19 deaths.

Twitter Removes Claim About CDC And Covid-19 Coronavirus Deaths (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/08/31/twitter-removes-claim-about-cdc-and-covid-19-coronavirus-deaths-that-trump-retweeted/#379914d83178)


If you want to know why the original Tweet was inaccurate or misleading, just read the rest of what the CDC indicated after the 6%: “For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.” Take a gander at what these additional conditions or causes are. They include things such as adult pneumonia, respiratory distress syndrome, respiratory failure, respiratory arrest, other diseases of the respiratory system, and sepsis. Hmmm, these sound very much like the things that Covid-19 can lead to and what can ultimately kill people with severe Covid-19.

It's literally a QAnon sourced conspiracy theory, and anyone spreading it should not be listened to or taken seriously.

Mask Ordinance is extended until Oct. 20.

I am sure they are going discuss this next month and see if they can push it again, but in all honesty, I do not know how much longer they are going to get the votes.

The misrepresentation is the claim that the CDC has started saying that only 6% of the deaths previously reported for the pandemic are actually from the virus. It's false because what people are doing is pulling only the deaths that have no additional cause of death listed and claiming they're the only real COVID-19 deaths.

Twitter Removes Claim About CDC And Covid-19 Coronavirus Deaths (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/08/31/twitter-removes-claim-about-cdc-and-covid-19-coronavirus-deaths-that-trump-retweeted/#379914d83178)



It's literally a QAnon sourced conspiracy theory, and anyone spreading it should not be listened to or taken seriously.

+1

Why oh why do people keep trusting and sharing 'data' and 'information' other than directly from the CDC??

So many complain about 'not knowing what to believe' when we have a group of highly respected scientists to provide everything you need to know.


This fascination with conspiracy theories and shadowy websites is borderline insane.

I suspect there are two major factors at work here: 1) many don't like the facts so go looking for alternatives; and 2) it's far more salacious and fun to think you have somehow unearthed the 'real truth'.

Just read the bloody CDC site and stop using Facebook and Youtube as your source for information; that is if you care about facts instead of utter nonsense.

Mask Ordinance is extended until Oct. 20.

I am sure they are going discuss this next month and see if they can push it again, but in all honesty, I do not know how much longer they are going to get the votes.

Lots of amendments got shot down. One to make it non-mandatory (what?!) and one to make religious institutions exempt.

Why oh why do people keep trusting and sharing 'data' and 'information' other than directly from the CDC??

So many complain about 'not knowing what to believe' when we have a group of highly respected scientists to provide everything you need to know.


This fascination with conspiracy theories and shadowy websites is borderline insane.

I suspect there are two major factors at work here: 1) many don't like the facts so go looking for alternatives; and 2) it's far more salacious and fun to think you have somehow unearthed the 'real truth'.

Just read the bloody CDC site and stop using Facebook and Youtube as your source for information; that is if you care about facts instead of utter nonsense.

+1,000,000

Why oh why do people keep trusting and sharing 'data' and 'information' other than directly from the CDC??

So many complain about 'not knowing what to believe' when we have a group of highly respected scientists to provide everything you need to know.


This fascination with conspiracy theories and shadowy websites is borderline insane.

I suspect there are two major factors at work here: 1) many don't like the facts so go looking for alternatives; and 2) it's far more salacious and fun to think you have somehow unearthed the 'real truth'.

Just read the bloody CDC site and stop using Facebook and Youtube as your source for information; that is if you care about facts instead of utter nonsense.

I do find it so funny as older folks all said nothing on the internet can be trusted but share Facebook garbage conspiracy theories like they are the word of God.

Lots of amendments got shot down. One to make it non-mandatory (what?!) and one to make religious institutions exempt.

I don't understand either of those amendments, at all, just stupid and crazy. No "religious institutions" should be exempt, not ever.

Good news. Rapid testing machines going to all nursing homes in OK, according to Stitt conference. 200 already in place and more shipping out this week. Great news for nursing home folks and keeping them safe.

Figured I'd get some graph action going now that we've got all the August data.

Summary
With August data complete, not many surprises at this point. August cases wound up almost identical to July (-1.2%) deaths increased 68.2% Month-over-month, and August deaths increased 30% over April, the previous record.
https://i.imgur.com/0Uhflkh.png

Averages
As Pete mentioned, month ends with a peak in the 7-day case average. I've noted 5 new records for the 7-day death average in August.
https://i.imgur.com/QcaxCWY.png

Same data - but all the way back to April 1st for reference during "first wave":
https://i.imgur.com/zJlgbdG.png

7/14/21 Day Case Averages - somewhat concerning short-term trend here, where we see the 7 day leading an increase in the 14 and 21 day averages:
https://i.imgur.com/ibbXzHe.png


Hospitalizations vs. Deaths
Haven't posted hospital #'s in a while, but they've basically been the same for about a month now. Plotted against the 14-day death average, I'm not entirely sure what to conclude here.

Are patients simply dying at roughly the same rate they are being admitted? Is there some ceiling - either imposed via hospital policy or due to other constraints that has kept the number of patients flat? I feel like this plot provides more questions than answers.

(*Note - the Saturday and Sunday counts are simply a copy of the Friday #'s here.)

https://i.imgur.com/RFFsdn8.png

If you're on a computer, you can right-click images and view in tab if you would like to zoom in.

Stay safe out there - while part of me wants to think the worst is behind us, I've got a bad feeling about being at such a relatively high daily case count with Fall knocking on the door.

Is the last graph saying that for every 100 people hospitalized per day you can expect about one death? What is the recovery rate for a person hospitalized?

I don't understand either of those amendments, at all, just stupid and crazy. No "religious institutions" should be exempt, not ever.

People want to be able to worship Jesus without a mask. And execute their freedoms without worrying about the virus. I'm glad it was shot down, though. Since a lot of people in church are older, it could be very bad.

666 new cases today. Last 3 Tuesdays: 650, 615 and 765.

9 more reported deaths.

People want to be able to worship Jesus without a mask. And execute their freedoms without worrying about the virus. I'm glad it was shot down, though. Since a lot of people in church are older, it could be very bad.
There is currently an exemption for religious services. The proposed amendment was to *remove* this exemption. It got shot down, so people can still go to religious services without a mask.

People want to be able to worship Jesus without a mask. And execute their freedoms without worrying about the virus. ...

FFS, those are both incredibly stupid reasons, not even inside the bounds of actual logic and reasonable thinking.

There is currently an exemption for religious services. The proposed amendment was to *remove* this exemption. It got shot down, so people can still go to religious services without a mask.

Thanks for the clariification, there *should not* be exemptions for religious services, ever, to reiterate my point.

666 new cases today. Last 3 Tuesdays: 650, 615 and 765.

9 more reported deaths.

This has to be due to our unholy city council requiring the use of masks in churches!!!!:p

Nah, they just need to replace the grape juice with disenfectant

Nah, they just need to replace the grape juice with disInfectant

FIFY - but not sure calling for mass suicide is a good way to show your humanity and how caring you are for people, since that is why you want them wearing masks, right?

FIFY - but not sure calling for mass suicide is a good way to show your humanity and how caring you are for people, since that is why you want them wearing masks, right?

I'm sure he's talking about altar wine.

FIFY - but not sure calling for mass suicide is a good way to show your humanity and how caring you are for people, since that is why you want them wearing masks, right?

16387

Wearing mask, cases over 500 a day. The new normal.

This has to be due to our unholy city council requiring the use of masks in churches!!!!:p

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

Because too many covidiots AREN'T WEARING THEM. Bars, churches, parties, weddings, etc. have all been identified as high-risk and yet the covidiots just don't wear masks. Was in B&N on May/58th on Sat, and some dumba** walked in maskless carrying it in his hand, his daughters were wearing them, though. Yes, he got told to wear a ****ing mask by me. Saw people in the Home Depot near there not wearing any. Almost anywhere we go in OKC city limits (which isn't many places), there's either dicknosers or non-maskers. Sole exception is the Homeland on Classen/18th, we're there weekly, everybody we've seen there wears them, about 99% properly,

Hey, here's an idea - businesses should hire some of the massive amounts of unemployed people to be mask-enforcers....

Because too many covidiots AREN'T WEARING THEM. Bars, churches, parties, weddings, etc. have all been identified as high-risk and yet the covidiots just don't wear masks. Was in B&N on May/58th on Sat, and some dumba** walked in maskless carrying it in his hand, his daughters were wearing them, though. Yes, he got told to wear a ****ing mask by me. Saw people in the Home Depot near there not wearing any. Almost anywhere we go in OKC city limits (which isn't many places), there's either dicknosers or non-maskers. Sole exception is the Homeland on Classen/18th, we're there weekly, everybody we've seen there wears them, about 99% properly,

Hey, here's an idea - businesses should hire some of the massive amounts of unemployed people to be mask-enforcers....

LOL-Dicknosers. I do see a few of those around. But most places I go mask wearing is near 100% so for the most part people are doing what they believe will keep them from getting the virus. I wear the blue surgical mask even though I know it's not designed to keep the virus out. But I do it as to respect others. Hopefully the virus runs it course soon so I can put these things away til China unleashes the next round.

BTW you should be the mask police and hunt these evil doers down and tell them to get that mask on or get fined!

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?
You are going to the right places. C-stores seem to be 50% at best. Home Depot and Lowe’s I would put at maybe 75%. Our church is maybe 10% and I only know that from watching online. We’re not going back until this is over. Places like Twin Peaks are having car shows, poker tournaments and fantasy food drafts pretty much packing the places with virtually no one but employees wearing masks.

LOL-Dicknosers. I do see a few of those around. But most places I go mask wearing is near 100% so for the most part people are doing what they believe will keep them from getting the virus. I wear the blue surgical mask even though I know it's not designed to keep the virus out. But I do it as to respect others. Hopefully the virus runs it course soon so I can put these things away til China unleashes the next round.

BTW you should be the mask police and hunt these evil doers down and tell them to get that mask on or get fined!

No thanks, I'm one of the lucky ones and still have my full-time job, not enough time in the world to chastise covidiots (and I'd probably get arrested multiple times for being too good at that job). Thank you for continuing to wear a mask.

There is currently an exemption for religious services. The proposed amendment was to *remove* this exemption. It got shot down, so people can still go to religious services without a mask.

Dear Jesus,

Please protect me from your followers.

Amen

You are going to the right places. C-stores seem to be 50% at best. Home Depot and Lowe’s I would put at maybe 75%. Our church is maybe 10% and I only know that from watching online. We’re not going back until this is over. Places like Twin Peaks are having car shows, poker tournaments and fantasy food drafts pretty much packing the places with virtually no one but employees wearing masks.

It probably depends on which Lowe's. I finally ventured in today to the location at 39th and May. Probably at least 85% masked. Employees masked. Not crowded at all. I felt safe there, but it was a Tuesday in the middle of the day.

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

look at were the mask mandates are and where the numbers are still increasing... it's not difficult to see that masks to work. Enid is a red zone and no mask mandate... places that have put them in place are seeing numbers stay the same or reduce.

look at were the mask mandates are and where the numbers are still increasing... it's not difficult to see that masks to work. Enid is a red zone and no mask mandate... places that have put them in place are seeing numbers stay the same or reduce.

Not Stillwater. It went ahead of Enid in total positive cases. As no. 6 city, it's never been so high.

Not Stillwater. It went ahead of Enid in total positive cases. As no. 6 city, it's never been so high.

Because 25,000 students showed up 2 weeks ago.

This page will be the longest/busiest page ever because this covid stuff is like one long argument where the same things are repeated over and over and over.

Masks work. Period. The worked all over the world. Why did Asia seemingly beat this thing? They had a less contagious strain, but they would also beat you in the street if caught without a mask.

We live in the greatest country in the world for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. However, this is probably the worst country in the world for managing a pandemic like this.

Our numbers will continue to either stay flat or go up simply by nature of how we live our lives. Kids are in school. Sports are starting up. Fall/winter holidays. Etc etc. Wear your mask. It will provide protection for you. Control the things you can control. Avoid people in the stores. Go early or late. Try not to get hung up on all the rest. It’s just noise, and it’s stressful.

Is the last graph saying that for every 100 people hospitalized per day you can expect about one death? What is the recovery rate for a person hospitalized?

I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion - but I still don't really know what conclusion to draw from this. Considering that the 14-day average of deaths is a backward looking metric: simply adding the last 14 days of deaths then dividing by 14, while hospitalized patients is a "snapshot" of a single day, I think that making a comparison of these two values directly - on a single day - wouldn't tell us much.

However, when plotted over time and comparing the direction of the trends - I initially thought that as the # of patients in the hospital started trending upward in June, that we would see deaths start to follow the same trend about two weeks later.

That assumption held pretty true from mid June to late July: hospitalized patients went up, the 14-day (and 7-day) death average also trended upwards, and the two metrics seemed pretty closely correlated. Hospitals even publicly announced they had activated surge plans, and the expectation was that we could very easily see hospital counts hit the 1,000 mark by the end of August if they kept rising like they did from mid-June to mid-July. After all, we kept seeing cases increase during this time too.

But then in August... hospital #'s stayed flat, while deaths continued marching upwards to multiple new highs. I find this unusual and somewhat concerning. A previous poster on this thread mentioned that maybe as hospitals fill up, they become more strict about the severity of Covid in patients they admit. That is certainly a reasonable explanation. Given the high count of deaths we saw in August, it makes me wonder - are hospitals being TOO strict with their admission standards? Are some of the deceased patients not getting the hospital care they need to due to some constraint? (Staffing, Facilities, PPE, Financial, etc. etc. ?)

The state's Weekly Epidemiology report has two pages that may be useful to analyze: The "Epidemiological Estimates" and "Time to Event' sections:

https://i.imgur.com/Rff5rwu.png

The Executive Order report also tracks a metric, "Hospitalized Ever". Today, the figure is 4,903. With a total case count of 59,399 that means that 8.3 % of cases required a hospital trip. I may plot this over time and see if it tells us anything.

What is up with Hospitalizations? 545 again today. They have been about the same for 3 weeks now which seems kind of odd to me. Are the same amount of people leaving the hospital at the same rate they are coming in? Are there a core of about 400 people or so that have been in the hospital for 3 weeks now? Seems odd to me that this number wouldn't have some more ups and downs than what it has been in the last 3 weeks or so with the numbers around 550

What is up with Hospitalizations? 545 again today. They have been about the same for 3 weeks now which seems kind of odd to me. Are the same amount of people leaving the hospital at the same rate they are coming in? Are there a core of about 400 people or so that have been in the hospital for 3 weeks now? Seems odd to me that this number wouldn't have some more ups and downs than what it has been in the last 3 weeks or so with the numbers around 550

I have been wondering these same things myself.

Well I guess we can throw out the numbers on the death count as they are about as inaccurate as can be according to the CDC. Now they say only 6% of the reported deaths are actually from the Covid Virus. What a huge sham this has been. It appears that the people have been mislead in a big way.

If you are under 65 and in decent health you are not dying from this virus. Sure there will be a very rare exception but if your healthy and under 65 the chances of you dying from this virus is so small it doesn't even register.

Responds with misinformation and misunderstandings. *double face palm*

What is up with Hospitalizations? 545 again today. They have been about the same for 3 weeks now which seems kind of odd to me. Are the same amount of people leaving the hospital at the same rate they are coming in? Are there a core of about 400 people or so that have been in the hospital for 3 weeks now? Seems odd to me that this number wouldn't have some more ups and downs than what it has been in the last 3 weeks or so with the numbers around 550
Look at graphs of the 7 day running averages of new cases and hospitalizations they are about what should expected. The case trend line has a few dips and rises but essential if you flatten it out just a bit then the hospitalization trend line follows the new case trend line with a couple week lag.

Health Officials Worry Nation Not Ready For COVID-19 Vaccine (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/health-officials-worry-nation-not-ready-for-covid-19-vaccine_n_5f4fa218c5b69eb5c0373a89)

"In Mississippi, for example, health officials still rely on faxes, said the state’s health officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs. “You can’t manually handle 1,200 faxes a day and expect anything efficient to happen,″ he said."

"Meanwhile, health departments are dealing with what Minnesota’s Ehresmann described as “legacy” vaccine registries, sometimes dating to the late 1980s."

Pretty pathetic state of affairs for the "greatest country in the world" to be in...

Health Officials Worry Nation Not Ready For COVID-19 Vaccine (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/health-officials-worry-nation-not-ready-for-covid-19-vaccine_n_5f4fa218c5b69eb5c0373a89)

"In Mississippi, for example, health officials still rely on faxes, said the state’s health officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs. “You can’t manually handle 1,200 faxes a day and expect anything efficient to happen,″ he said."

"Meanwhile, health departments are dealing with what Minnesota’s Ehresmann described as “legacy” vaccine registries, sometimes dating to the late 1980s."

Pretty pathetic state of affairs for the "greatest country in the world" to be in...
Working where I do I’m not at all surprised. We’re years behind on some technology.