Anyone find it ironic how the local meteorologists tell everyone to take shelter in a storm yet show their pics they send in to their station when they don't take shelter?

It's all about the $$$$

Yeah, because a picture of someone holding hailstones just rakes in the bucks.

Anyone find it ironic how the local meteorologists tell everyone to take shelter in a storm yet show their pics they send in to their station when they don't take shelter?

Anyone find it ironic how the cops tell us to take shelter during a shooting yet the police department shows pics of them out there in the middle of it all?

Anyone find it ironic how the cops tell us to take shelter during a shooting yet the police department shows pics of them out there in the middle of it all?

Are you serious? Let me help you out. For example.............Emily Sutton tells the average Joe to stay indoors and seek shelter. At the same time she tells the average Joe to send in pics. Yesterday, a guy takes video of a tornado while standing on his porch. What does she do? She puts it on TV. Cops are trained to be in the middle of it. Storm chasers are trained to be in the middle of it. What is it that you don't understand?

Channel 5 always cautions to take a pic or a vid only if it safe to do so.

Oklahomans prairie dog it anyway when the sirens go off, might as well take a pic.

40 to 50 years ago if the sirens went off everyone went outside to see if they could see it. lol

NWC sometimes DOESN'T sound an alert during the night, knowing that people will groggily get out of bed and walk outside, only to get smacked by a piece of flying debris. Unless it's really serious they'd rather people stay tucked safely in bed, surrounded by walls, blankets & pillows.

The next time I hear that I need to download their App for alerts I'm going to go crazy!!!!!!!!! They have to mention this at least 4-5 times during their broadcast. I'm talking about all the Stations too

Kind of sexist of these stations that they never allow the female meteorologists to manage the big storms in the studio. Hell, they had Sutton-Z driving halfway to Kansas.

Kind of sexist of these stations that they never allow the female meteorologists to manage the big storms in the studio. Hell, they had Sutton-Z driving halfway to Kansas.

what??

NWC sometimes DOESN'T sound an alert during the night, knowing that people will groggily get out of bed and walk outside, only to get smacked by a piece of flying debris. Unless it's really serious they'd rather people stay tucked safely in bed, surrounded by walls, blankets & pillows.

Do you have a source for this? Are you meaning the NWS - Nation Weather Service? NWS issues warnings based on the data available at the time of an event, regardless of time of day.

It seems to me that David Payne has tried to be more calm than his behavior a few years ago. If you notice, while broadcasting during a storm, his hands now stay in his pockets (or at least one of them does) and he places his arms across his chest as he speaks. I think he's trying to show a more calm 'in the midst of the storm' posture. Maybe.....

"NWS: A PDS Tornado Watch is in effect until 10PM for much of SW and central OK. Very large hail and tornadoes are possible. Please stay alert!!"

Man... you just can't trust these meteorologists who are overhyping for the TV ratings. Shame on you, National Weather Service. </sarcasm>

When they say a violent tornado is irritating. To me, they are all violent.

Kind of sexist of these stations that they never allow the female meteorologists to manage the big storms in the studio. Hell, they had Sutton-Z driving halfway to Kansas.

Nothing like inserting identity politics for the feeling of moral superiority.

Local TV Mets are like politicians... if their lips are moving they are lying.

I'm getting a bit tired of the local weather guys. When bad weather is happening at the moment I need to see a map with pertinent information and your best predictions not live streaming weather porn from your storm chasers. Broadcasting click bait during a weather emergency is beyond reckless.

I'm getting a bit tired of the local weather guys. When bad weather is happening at the moment I need to see a map with pertinent information and your best predictions not live streaming weather porn from your storm chasers. Broadcasting click bait during a weather emergency is beyond reckless.

If people weren't watching weather porn, they would be watching "reality tv" so it's clear who their target demographic is

And everyone who does not like these "lying" local mets and who doesn't like watching "weather porn" has the freedom of choice to turn the channel or turn off their televisions... but it's apparently more satisfying to hop onto message boards and social media to whine about it.

And everyone who does not like these "lying" local mets and who doesn't like watching "weather porn" has the freedom of choice to turn the channel or turn off their televisions... but it's apparently more satisfying to hop onto message boards and social media to whine about it.

irony noun
iro·​ny | \ ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē \
plural ironies
Definition of irony
1a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning
b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony
c : an ironic expression or utterance
2a(1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result
(2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity
b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play
— called also dramatic irony, tragic irony

3 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning
— called also Socratic irony

And everyone who does not like these "lying" local mets and who doesn't like watching "weather porn" has the freedom of choice to turn the channel or turn off their televisions... but it's apparently more satisfying to hop onto message boards and social media to whine about it.

Oh quit your whining about the whiners and stick to the subject ~ local meteorologists and how they fail us with their nonsense.

Not so much about the local meteorologists but weather coverage in general. I’m on board with the local meteorologists going way overboard. But the local station mobile apps are the complete opposite. If I’m out and have to rely on the app of any of the local stations I might as well not bother. If there actually was a tornado I’d be blown away by the time they showed it. Come on this is 2019!

All you have to do is get the Weather Channel app (or another one that does radar well, Intellicast used to have the best radar in their app, until they got bought by IBM/Weather Channel), and just keep track of the radar. Or, if at home or without a smartphone, watch channel 9 muted, they usually have radar up almost all the time. Not that hard to look at the radar and figure out if a tornado is coming and if it's moving your way.

All you have to do is get the Weather Channel app (or another one that does radar well, Intellicast used to have the best radar in their app, until they got bought by IBM/Weather Channel), and just keep track of the radar. Or, if at home or without a smartphone, watch channel 9 muted, they usually have radar up almost all the time. Not that hard to look at the radar and figure out if a tornado is coming and if it's moving your way.

For those that want to bitch about meteorologists or just love monitoring severe weather. Download RadarScope. Hands down the best radar app on the market. There's a slight learning curve, but anyone who's lived in Oklahoma for a few years should pick up on the basics pretty quickly. It isn't cheap, but you won't find a better radar app.

For those that want to bitch about meteorologists or just love monitoring severe weather. Download RadarScope. Hands down the best radar app on the market. There's a slight learning curve, but anyone who's lived in Oklahoma for a few years should pick up on the basics pretty quickly. It isn't cheap, but you won't find a better radar app.

If one wants a free and fast radar app I use My Radar. It is super fast and can zoom in/out or all around/whole country. Had it for more than a few years and its great.

For those that want to bitch about meteorologists or just love monitoring severe weather. Download RadarScope. Hands down the best radar app on the market. There's a slight learning curve, but anyone who's lived in Oklahoma for a few years should pick up on the basics pretty quickly. It isn't cheap, but you won't find a better radar app.

RadarScope is fantastic ...

also most of the OKlahoma Mets also use it

Something tells me this guy won't be hired by Oklahoma stations nor would he want to be.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/10/media/weatherman-code-red-joe-crain/index.html

If one wants a free and fast radar app I use My Radar. It is super fast and can zoom in/out or all around/whole country. Had it for more than a few years and its great.

MyRadar is great, there are definitely better ones but not for free

Something tells me this guy won't be hired by Oklahoma stations nor would he want to be.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/10/media/weatherman-code-red-joe-crain/index.html
He wouldn't want to be after reading this thread and similar threads that ascribe by broad brush that all the local mets are hyperbolic, alarmist and irrational. He's lamenting heavy-handed corporate office meddling in local professionalism; we have at least one Oklahoma-based company behind two Oklahoma TV stations who trust their local professionals... even when armchair quarterbacks are always second-guessing their work with the authority of layman expertise.

Remind me, Which stations don't issue there own severe threat levels and warnings outside of what the NWS does? Probably start naming these high risk days next the same way winter storm system are named?

Remind me, Which stations don't issue there own severe threat levels and warnings outside of what the NWS does? Probably start naming these high risk days next the same way winter storm system are named?
Remind me, which stations have consistently done it irresponsibly (with the exception of the infamous May 31st dire warning)? Has NWS always been right? Has NWS ever missed the mark? Has NWS ever been a little late to the game in issuing warnings?

I like NWS and appreciate what they do. I always start with them on weather-related information, especially forecasts. But the reality is that when it comes to live unfolding weather events, the NWS is not as nimble in their communications and the local TV mets (as much as some here like to malign them) provide a truly valuable service to the literally thousands upon thousands who depend on them.

After having watched live weather coverage in other markets during severe weather, I wouldn't trade our TV market with any market in the country.

And they can do all that without having their own brand of weather rating system that confuses people and they seem to always be on the higher end of that ever scale(whatever that is, they change their own system every other year).

I will always rely on a system devised primarily by a team of researchers and scientists rather than a meteorologist who work for a station whom at the end of the day is about getting ratings. Mostly its the chief meteorologists who hype things using these "proprietary' threat levels. If someone wants a forecast with less doom just watch the morning people before their bosses start their shift.

Remind me, which stations have consistently done it irresponsibly (with the exception of the infamous May 31st dire warning)? Has NWS always been right? Has NWS ever missed the mark? Has NWS ever been a little late to the game in issuing warnings?

I like NWS and appreciate what they do. I always start with them on weather-related information, especially forecasts. But the reality is that when it comes to live unfolding weather events, the NWS is not as nimble in their communications and the local TV mets (as much as some here like to malign them) provide a truly valuable service to the literally thousands upon thousands who depend on them.

After having watched live weather coverage in other markets during severe weather, I wouldn't trade our TV market with any market in the country.

Right, when it comes to real-time eyes on the situation, the local TV coverage, while sometimes a bit annoying, is invaluable. I only turned it on once this storm season when there was a tornado warning issued by NWS for an adjacent location as seen via their Twitter feed--then I turned the TV on to get real-time info just in case I needed to take action.

Not local here but saw this about a local TV station / weatherman in Illinois which is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/business/wics-weather-code-red-change-joe-crain/index.html

Is there an echo or is the matrix glitching?

Is there an echo or is the matrix glitching?

Oops...lets go with the latter!

Not local here but saw this about a local TV station / weatherman in Illinois which is interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/11/business/wics-weather-code-red-change-joe-crain/index.html

He wasn't really even bashing anyone. He was just responding to the people that were asking why the code red stuff is how I see it. And yes radarscope is the best. Not worth the pro though.

He wasn't really even bashing anyone. He was just responding to the people that were asking why the code red stuff is how I see it. And yes radarscope is the best. Not worth the pro though.

He got fired. "We want you to know it's not us" . He threw corporate under the bus so they responded in kind.

LOL, Stillwater once again to get the most rain in Oklahoma this time now through early Sunday morning. Maybe meteorologist Emily Sutton thinks it's funny.

https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/emilyrain.jpg

Just saw a commercial on KWTV that said they don't have to wait for the NWS to issue tornado warnings, they can (and apparently are going to) do it quicker since they have technology, spotters, and a chopper. Is this a good idea?

Just saw a commercial on KWTV that said they don't have to wait for the NWS to issue tornado warnings, they can (and apparently are going to) do it quicker since they have technology, spotters, and a chopper. Is this a good idea?I don’t like the idea. NWS isn’t concerned with ratings and I don’t care how well intentioned the local meteorologists are the stations are looking for ratings.

All three stations have the technology, spotters, and a chopper ...sounds like someone's ego is out of control lol

From a tv standpoint it's really out of control. This spring they were wall to wall coverage for just severe thunderstorms.

Because there were none of those spinning things to track

Just saw a commercial on KWTV that said they don't have to wait for the NWS to issue tornado warnings, they can (and apparently are going to) do it quicker since they have technology, spotters, and a chopper. Is this a good idea?

If anyone is able to find a link to this commercial I'd be interested in seeing it.

If anyone is able to find a link to this commercial I'd be interested in seeing it.

I'd say to record the news a few times per day and it might show up, I think that's when it aired today, during one of their 10 or so daily newscasts.

Just saw a commercial on KWTV that said they don't have to wait for the NWS to issue tornado warnings, they can (and apparently are going to) do it quicker since they have technology, spotters, and a chopper. Is this a good idea?


I don’t like the idea. NWS isn’t concerned with ratings and I don’t care how well intentioned the local meteorologists are the stations are looking for ratings.
While I still consider NWS the only OFFICIAL source for these warnings, that doesn't preclude the very experienced meteorologists (and storm chasers) in this market from issuing warnings before NWS. The reality has been that the local stations have sometimes identified and warned about a tornado minutes before the NWS warnings get out. This is especially critical when we've had those freak storms that spun up quick/brief tornadoes that weren't forecasted by anyone (NWS or otherwise). Do the TV mets hype things up more than necessary? Perhaps, sometimes. But I still prefer to err on the side of overcautious than err on the side of being hesitant to issue warnings.

I follow the NWS and consider it my primary source of weather information. However, they are often slow to the "party" when things rapidly develop. I appreciate the local TV mets using their technology, experience and expertise to make judgment calls in advance of official NWS warnings.

Calling it a warning, from anyone other than the NWS, is bad. But it shouldn't stop the local tv meteorologists from saying: "we see a tornado signature on radar," or from broadcasting images of a tornado and saying: "NWS might have this on radar and classified as a tornado yet, but we can see what looks like one. Take cover!" Local emergency managers will still only abide by the NWS when it comes to turning on a siren, I'd imagine.

Yes, I do not understand what this means exactly. Unless somehow the local mets are getting access to the actual warning initiation process, which I doubt - but I am unfamiliar with this news.

In Oklahoma this doesn't mean much since if there are tornadic storms, people are generally paying attention. I don't think there is many people in 2020 who rely strictly on a NOAA weather radio.

How often does TV meteorologist declare warnings actually happen when NWS doesn't declare first or at the same time? The NWS are watching the same three main stations in their command center so they would immediately declare the warning once a station declares its own warning. Its more likely the NWS will catch something that the stations miss because the stations are fixated on a storm heading towards the metro area.

I've seen the Weather Channel technology catch rotations before the NWS. They don't formally use the term tornado warning that l recall, but tell people to take immediate tornado precautions and discuss if it appears on the ground our not (debris ball, direction, communities in the path, etc.). Then the NWS usually catches it a few seconds to minutes later.

Who is the new weather girl on channel 4?

Who is the new weather girl on channel 4? Sarah Libby has been on Kfor off and on for Years.

Because there were none of those spinning things to track

Right. Channel 5 said OKC has only had one tornado watch.

I saw Steve Carano on KOCO's news this morning. When did he come back? Does that mean they dumped Eric Garlick?

Mike Morgan isn't good at predicting highs, either. He said 100s were going to start every day for a while by now. They haven't but I'm not complaining about it.

Mike Morgan isn't good at predicting highs, either. He said 100s were going to start every day for a while by now. They haven't but I'm not complaining about it.It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we don’t hit 100.

I saw Steve Carano on KOCO's news this morning. When did he come back? Does that mean they dumped Eric Garlick?

Steve has been a fill-in guy for weekends for years, it may just mean someone is on vacation. Eric is still listed on KOCO's site: https://www.koco.com/news-team/050d2c95-72d4-4331-88b8-98397bd0f7cc#

KOCO did recently hire a new meteorologist from KFSM 5 in NW Arkansas, Sabrina Bates...she may be transitioning to weekend mornings?
https://twitter.com/5newssabrina?lang=en