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bchris02 01-24-2015, 10:26 AM Awesome news!
Back in the 90s, I lived on the southside but always thought NW Expressway was the most impressive corridor in OKC and I always liked that hotel. It's been sad to see it dark. Looking forward to seeing it restored.
Bullbear 01-24-2015, 02:55 PM I know a buddy of mine from northerd Rural Oklahoma booked a room there last weekend through Priceline for about the price of a Motel 6 and they gave him a upper floor room for that price.. ( which a lot of times Priceline rooms have no view and are lower floors )
csjoerdsma.okc 01-29-2015, 05:41 PM I just had a conversation with someone who works as director of sales at a few hotels on Northwest Expressway. She told me the Tower Hotel ( former Marriott ) is rebranding as a Doubletree by Hilton, however she stated she was not sure how soon the affiliation would be official.
Urbanized 01-29-2015, 06:47 PM That would be a good move if so.
ljbab728 01-29-2015, 10:29 PM I just had a conversation with someone who works as director of sales at a few hotels on Northwest Expressway. She told me the Tower Hotel ( former Marriott ) is rebranding as a Doubletree by Hilton, however she stated she was not sure how soon the affiliation would be official.
That's possible. The Cambria Suites north of the airport is doing the same thing. That was mentioned to me previously as one of the candidates when I visited the hotel.
ljbab728 01-30-2015, 04:48 PM I just spoke to Liam Thorpe, who is the Director of Sales for the hotel. He told me they are going to be in meetings next week with 3 different groups looking at the hotel for rebranding and they were expecting to get a decision within 3 weeks after that. Two of the possibilities are still Marriott and Doubletree by Hilton. He seemed to think that Marriott might be more likely but there is no way to know for sure yet.
I prefer Marriott to DoubleTree.
ljbab728 01-30-2015, 10:43 PM I prefer Marriott to DoubleTree.
I agree and Marriott will require a much more extensive and expensive upgrade to the hotel.
bchris02 01-30-2015, 11:13 PM Doubletree is a significant downgrade, but at least it's being reflagged.
Rover 01-31-2015, 11:22 PM I prefer Marriott to DoubleTree.
Cookies are better at Doubletree
kevinpate 02-01-2015, 02:20 AM Haven't had a reason to stay there in a long time, but I used to like the D-tree in downtown T-town.
Rover 02-01-2015, 09:44 AM I've stayed in many Doubletrees that were better in amenities, style and conditions than many Marriotts I've stayed in. Many times it depends on the franchisee/owner. Both have very good reservation systems. Doubletree would be a good flag for this hotel.
ljbab728 02-01-2015, 09:44 PM I've stayed in many Doubletrees that were better in amenities, style and conditions than many Marriotts I've stayed in. Many times it depends on the franchisee/owner. Both have very good reservation systems. Doubletree would be a good flag for this hotel.
True, but, as I said previously, I was told there will be much more extensive and expensive upgrades to the hotel if it is a Marriott.
HOT ROD 02-02-2015, 10:28 PM Rover, I tend to agree that Double Tree would be a good rebrand for this hotel. It likely wouldn't require as much retrofitting as it would for a full fledged Marriott and Double Tree is not currently represented in OKC, so having this location would be huge. Also, getting a DoubleTree flag here would allow OKC to pursue a Marriott or JW downtown without the market being saturated with Marriott brands. :) hehe
much prefer a brand new Marriott hotel + this rebranded as a DoubleTree than having a brand new DoubleTree and having this return to Marriott. ... Nevertheless, good to know the hotel is improving itself and will be reflagged. This is one of the anchors to the NW business district and definitely needs TLC and good management to showcase this part of the city.
ljbab728 02-02-2015, 10:48 PM Rover, I tend to agree that Double Tree would be a good rebrand for this hotel. It likely wouldn't require as much retrofitting as it would for a full fledged Marriott and Double Tree is not currently represented in OKC, so having this location would be huge.
Not true. The former Cambria Suites is now the Doubletree Oklahoma City Airport.
Of course a Doubletree won't require as much renovation but why would that be considered a plus?
Mike_M 02-04-2015, 09:22 AM Double Tree is just a Hilton Garden Inn that they didn't feel like renovating. HGI's are all very uniform in layout and color scheme, however Double Trees usually just slap their name on whatever hotel they acquire and bring in Hilton food options, which is why experiences are so varied from city to city. Though I'm a Hilton guy, I'm all for whichever brand forces them to upgrade. That meeting space is such a missed opportunity right now.
bchris02 02-04-2015, 09:26 AM Double Tree is just a Hilton Garden Inn that they didn't feel like renovating. HGI's are all very uniform in layout and color scheme, however Double Trees usually just slap their name on whatever hotel they acquire and bring in Hilton food options, which is why experiences are so varied from city to city. Though I'm a Hilton guy, I'm all for whichever brand forces them to upgrade. That meeting space is such a missed opportunity right now.
The only DoubleTrees I have experience with are not very nice hotels, but I have no doubt that some of them are nice. It sounds like they lack uniform standards that other flags have.
Mike_M 02-04-2015, 11:19 AM The only DoubleTrees I have experience with are not very nice hotels, but I have no doubt that some of them are nice. It sounds like they lack uniform standards that other flags have.
I've had a few okay and not okay Double Tree experiences, but it really depends on the building they acquired. They rarely make any updates so it's very hit and miss. I prefer a Garden, but I'll usually pick a DT over Hampton.
NWOKCGuy 02-05-2015, 11:09 AM I stayed at a Double Tree in San Diego that was very nice.
The TIF Town Hall was held here last night and it was the first time I had been in there since the 80's.
It is most definitely very worn around the edges. In fact, I hosted a class reunion in the ballroom in 1988 and absolutely nothing has been done since then, a period of 27 years. The carpet was worn, everything looks dated. Even the asphalt parking lot was looking pretty shabby.
It's not horrible but virtually everything in that place needs updating. To get a new flag, they are going to have to spend a ton money.
brianinok 05-29-2015, 08:02 AM I was driving by on Lake Hefner Parkway a few days ago and it looked like the Marriott had been taken off the building (it's a bit of a distance, and I just glanced, so I could be wrong). If so I assume that means Marriott is out of the running now. That's probably good. We would probably rather have a new construction, larger Marriott downtown at some point (either as the convention center hotel or to go along with it).
Colbafone 05-29-2015, 08:59 AM I was driving by on Lake Hefner Parkway a few days ago and it looked like the Marriott had been taken off the building (it's a bit of a distance, and I just glanced, so I could be wrong). If so I assume that means Marriott is out of the running now. That's probably good. We would probably rather have a new construction, larger Marriott downtown at some point (either as the convention center hotel or to go along with it).
I can confirm this. It's been off a little while. I work right down the street from it, on Penn and Expressway, and the sign is most definitely, not there. Perhaps, this hotel will get a bit of a renovation, a new flag, and a new Marriott will come along!
Celebrator 05-29-2015, 09:00 AM You are correct. The sign has indeed come down. This property needs to move forward soon. This is a black eye for the Founders District right now. I really hope we have good news before summer is out.
bchris02 05-29-2015, 09:44 AM Wasn't this supposed to become a DoubleTree?
Celebrator 05-29-2015, 11:57 AM Wasn't this supposed to become a DoubleTree?
That is supposedly one of the flags evaluating the property for purchase from the bank.
traxx 06-03-2015, 01:21 PM I've heard it is dated and hasn't been kept up well. Would it be more cost effective for a flag to renovate or tear it down and start over?
I've heard it is dated and hasn't been kept up well. Would it be more cost effective for a flag to renovate or tear it down and start over?
It can be completely fixed with a nice renovation of the rooms and common areas.
Hotels tend to do this about every 10 years or so. This property is about 25 years past due, but easily resolved with proper investment.
ljbab728 06-03-2015, 09:28 PM The room that I was shown there last year looked perfectly fine. I'm still sure they will all still be updated, however.
traxx 06-04-2015, 02:13 PM This property is about 25 years past due, but easily resolved with proper investment.
Yeah, that's what made me wonder if it was beyond the point of no return.
ljbab728 07-22-2015, 03:26 PM Two young ladies who are with the hotel catering department just stopped by my office on a sales call. There has definitely been nothing decided yet about rebranding. I'm not sure they are in a position to have a great deal of knowledge about it but they said they were hoping that something would be announced by the end of this year or first of next year.
brianinok 11-13-2015, 07:40 AM Any more news (or rumors of news, frankly) on this? I'm beginning to think the current ownership (1) does not have the capital, (2) does not have the ability to get the capital because of the current poor financial performance of the hotel, or (3) is not really interested in upgrading the hotel is and just using it to milk it for all its worth / bleeding it dry, and it's going to continue to deteriorate over the months and years with no investment into the property, and when it no longer cash flows, they'll sell.
It's been nearly two years since they lost the Marriott flag. No legitimate company would let a prime property languish that long without investment. They are either in over their head (1 or 2 above), or they are not interested in improvement (3 above).
okatty 11-29-2015, 08:37 AM This property is on the Sherrif Sale list on Dec. 17th. Appraised at over $16 mill. Wells Fargo is creditor and "Columbia Properties Okla. City LLC" the owner.
Urbanized 11-29-2015, 09:02 AM Wowza
Celebrator 11-29-2015, 11:47 PM This property is on the Sherrif Sale list on Dec. 17th. Appraised at over $16 mill. Wells Fargo is creditor and "Columbia Properties Okla. City LLC" the owner.
What's the Sheriff sale? I don't understand what the sheriff has to do with this. Do we think this will sell on the 17th? What are the implications of a sale of this type? Sorry, i'm just ignorant in this realm.
Jeepnokc 11-30-2015, 06:37 AM What's the Sheriff sale? I don't understand what the sheriff has to do with this. Do we think this will sell on the 17th? What are the implications of a sale of this type? Sorry, i'm just ignorant in this realm.
Sheriff's sale generally means the property is in foreclosure and being auctioned off.
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But usually with a property like this, there is a minimum amount set by the lender.
Snowman 11-30-2015, 06:51 AM What's the Sheriff sale? I don't understand what the sheriff has to do with this. Do we think this will sell on the 17th? What are the implications of a sale of this type? Sorry, i'm just ignorant in this realm.
It is a sale of foreclosed property, it is not certain it will sell there are some basic requirements (it has to go for at least 2/3rds the appraised price), if nothing else it implies months of problems in it's current operations.
Celebrator 11-30-2015, 04:54 PM Alright, thanks for the explanation. Is this good news? I feel like any movement at all at this point is good news. Am I wrong? Sorry, just want to foment some discussion on this news because it affects me as it is in my work neighborhood.
Something has to happen there.
I mentioned this upthread but I organized a class reunion there in 1988, 3 years after the opening.
Was in there for an event earlier this year and they have not done any updating to the carpet and most everything else I could remember. That is a span of 27 years! And it sure looked like it had been that long.
okatty 12-01-2015, 11:02 AM The judgment on the note is for $44 mill as of sept 30 with per diem interest at over 8600 a day since then. Appraisal for $16 mill and change. Wells Fargo is plaintiff but as Trustee for JP Morgan Chase Mortgage Securities Trust. Note was signed in 2006 so would love to know what they appraised it at back then. OUCH.
brianinok 12-02-2015, 03:59 PM I can see how it would have appraised at such a light level but wouldn't now. With a Marriott flag it would cash flow very high, but with no flag and the state it's in now, well not so much.
Having been inside recently, including the rooms, I would say the hotel still has the bones to make a nice hotel. It's a good structure. But it sure has been let go: dated, bad decor, decrepit furniture. It's 2 biggest problems are (1) no flag to give it instant credibility with travelers and (2) the size of the rooms (the double-double rooms are barely big enough for two double beds, room to slide-walk on one side, a small nightstand between, and a desk & chair by the window). The bathrooms are tiny too.
But with that second problem I'm not sure it could get a flag like Marriott, Hilton, or even Sheraton today. If they want a hotel in that area they'd probably build new (especially if a developer came along). Also, it really doesn't have any suites besides the presidential suite, but that's probably nothing some cash and remodeling can't fix, but it takes down your room count. What they market as suites are really "hospitality suites" connected to regular rooms. They're a double-size room with the bathroom taken out of one side and a bar put in, with a couple sofas and a table and chairs. Very Motel 6-ish looking.
I'm thinking it has a future as a Radisson or something. Maybe a Sheraton if the new owner is lucky.
mugofbeer 12-02-2015, 10:25 PM If I only had a few million lying around.....
kevinpate 12-03-2015, 11:03 AM That's what they said.
traxx 12-03-2015, 01:01 PM I'd say they need to call Anthony from Hotel Impossible, but since it's up for auction it sounds like it's already too late for that.
SoonerDave 12-03-2015, 01:33 PM What a shame to let such a nice property go to ruin like this. My mom held my wedding rehearsal dinner there two decades ago and it was *so* very nice, and now to hear how it has fallen down is very disheartening.
Here's hoping someone can pick it up and do something positive with it.
Mike_M 12-04-2015, 01:44 PM What a shame to let such a nice property go to ruin like this. My mom held my wedding rehearsal dinner there two decades ago and it was *so* very nice, and now to hear how it has fallen down is very disheartening.
Here's hoping someone can pick it up and do something positive with it.
I considered this hotel for my wedding reception in 2011 and it was just poor all around. They were throwing everything at us to get our business, even hosted my family for a private dinner at their restaurant to try the food. Every one of our entrees was just bad. Way oversalted fish, crunchy rice, and a bunch of other really amateur cooking mistakes. The sales manager even tasted our food and concurred with all of our concerns.
Two days later they called me and said they fired that chef and wanted to have us back for another chance, but we already picked another venue. I've attended 2 events there since, and it's always been very underwhelming. The place has tons of potential but really just needs better management and solid investment.
Celebrator 12-17-2015, 09:16 PM Anyone know what happened at the sale today with this property?
okatty 12-17-2015, 09:22 PM ^ Assuming it sold, there will be a motion to confirm sale filed in the court record at some point in near future.
stumbled on this today, Tower Hotel is listed in Ambridge Hospitality's Portfolio. They also do the Sheraton in MWC and Hyatt Regency in Tulsa.
Properties | Aimbridge Hospitality (http://about.aimbridgehospitality.com/portfolio?state=OK)
Employer Profile | Tower Hotel Oklahoma City | Oklahoma City, OK | Aimbridge Hospitality (http://about.aimbridgehospitality.com/employers/237398)
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Interesting. Thanks for posting that.
The property hasn't sold and Aimbridge is purely a management company, but still it's an interesting turn of events.
Celebrator 02-19-2016, 08:29 PM ^
Interesting. Thanks for posting that.
The property hasn't sold and Aimbridge is purely a management company, but still it's an interesting turn of events.
It has been managed by them for a little while now (at least 6 mo.). Still awaiting word on the fate of the property, hope we hear something soon.
brianinok 04-07-2016, 02:20 PM If you go to the County Assessor's website, it looks like there were some documents filed on 1/26. Were these not for the property changing hands after the sheriff sale to the bank?
If you go to the County Assessor's website, it looks like there were some documents filed on 1/26. Were these not for the property changing hands after the sheriff sale to the bank?
Effectively, JP Morgan -- the mortgage holder -- was the high bidder and transferred the asset to one of it's holding companies.
I'm sure they will eventually sell it to an investor / hotel chain.
brianinok 06-15-2017, 12:56 PM I noticed while across the street at Baptist Hospital for several days a couple weeks ago, that there was a crane at the old Marriott for a couple days. It appeared to be installing a new very large HVAC or boiler or hot water system (I can't tell the difference). I have no idea if the old one went out and they HAD to change it, or if they were actually upgrading. I would like to think they were upgrading in preparation for getting some kind of flag attached to the property, but I am pretty pessimistic after a few years without any flag at all.
warreng88 12-01-2017, 07:29 AM Patel to renovate Tower Hotel
By: Molly M. Fleming The Journal Record November 30, 2017
OKLAHOMA CITY – The Tower Hotel has a new owner after several years of having an uncertain future.
Champ Patel purchased the 1980s-era property Thursday. He plans to convert the 354-room property into a 215-room Embassy Suites within the next year. The hotel at 3233 Northwest Expressway was a Marriott until 2013.
The hotel has 13,000 square feet of meeting space. It will be renovated as well. The hotel will not close during the renovation.
HotelBrokerOne Vice President Ted Holmes and NAI Global brokered the deal. Holmes declined to release the sale price.
The Tower Hotel was built in 1985, according to county records. It was last sold in 2003, when Columbia Suffix Corp. paid $18 million for the property.
Holmes said the property attracted a lot of interested buyers. It sits on nearly 9 acres. Patel plans to build a 95-room limited-service hotel in some of the unused parking space. Holmes said he couldn’t announce the hotel’s flag yet.
On Dec. 6, Patel will break ground on the first location of a hotel chain’s new flag. The details have not been released yet. It will be built next to Barnes & Noble, near Quail Springs Mall.
Patel opened Hilton’s first-ever Tru by Hilton in May. It’s at 802 S. Meridian Ave.
Greater Oklahoma City Metro Hotel Association Director Jeff Penner said there couldn’t have been a better person in the world to buy the property. While Penner also works for Champion Hotels as the company’s regional manager, he said the rest of the association would agree with him.
“That’s what the hotel needs,” he said.
Greater Oklahoma City Convention and Visitors Bureau President Mike Carrier was delighted as he was talking about the sale to Patel.
“We’re very, very pleased to see that property is coming back as really nice and fully renovated,” he said.
He said he knew other buyers who were also interested in the space, and they would have also done a great job with the update. Over the last 10 years, he’s seen Patel’s work in the city.
“I know any time they undertake a project, they do it right,” he said. “They are outstanding operators.”
Penner said the Northwest Expressway corridor needs the 13,000 square feet of meeting space. The corridor is dotted with economy, extended-stay, and limited-service hotels, which have little or no meeting space.
Carrier said the meeting space is one of the property’s main attractions. The 13,000 square feet is used by state and regional associations. Other demand generators in the area are Integris, Deaconess, and other medical offices; Penn Square Mall, where salespeople are visiting clients; and other offices.
Patel’s investment in the Tower Hotel is a continuation of his interest in the Northwest Expressway, Holmes said. The corridor has seen a lot of hotel activity lately. A new Residence Inn opened in May, the La Quinta has been updated, and another property is under construction.
“This is a great day for Oklahoma City,” Carrier said.
traxx 12-01-2017, 12:54 PM This property needed something. It's been in serious decline.
This property needed something. It's been in serious decline.
I was in it just a couple of months ago and also was in it right after it opened in the 80's and it looks like virtually nothing has been updated in all that time.
Sounds like they are going to combine most the rooms into suites and bring much needed improvements all around, including the meeting space which is large and a great asset to all of NW OKC.
Celebrator 12-01-2017, 01:12 PM Can't tell you how good this is for our neighborhood here. This is a banner day for us! A Christmas Miracle--as they say.
Celebrator 12-01-2017, 01:13 PM And on the opposite end of the spectrum for the neighborhood: http://newsok.com/northwest-oklahoma-city-hotel-hit-with-tax-closing-notice/article/5574220
While one is saved, the other is in trouble. Would love to have both of these full service hotels flourishing at the same time. Someday.
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I'm sure that hotel will be fine and will soon reopen.
At the very worst, they'll get a new owner and move on from there.
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