The OKCTalk hive mind has spoken!

I went back and reread this and missed the part about the shootings. I’m sorry, but I’m pretty tripped out on shrooms right now. Can someone explain why this all the sudden started happening with these types of bars and what management of these bars has to do with it? And why are they all just in this one area?

I’ve been to other bars in sketchier parts of town. There’s a pretty wild bar at Sooner and something in between Edmond and Guthrie. Wouldn’t recommend it

I’ve been to other bars in sketchier parts of town. There’s a pretty wild bar at Sooner and something in between Edmond and Guthrie. Wouldn’t recommend it

The Rock-a-Way?! That place is awesome! Lol

The Rock-a-Way?! That place is awesome! Lol\

HA! My band played there a couple of times back in the early 90's and both times the same guy drunkenly smashed into our stage.... First time he just did a header into our guitar players monitor amp.... The 2nd time he made it all the way to the drummer!

Shocker another shooting at SPB

One injured in NW Oklahoma City shooting (https://kfor.com/news/one-person-injured-in-nw-oklahoma-city-shooting-2/)
by: Savion Harvey/KFOR
Posted: Sep 3, 2023 / 03:18 AM CDT

OKLAHOMA CITY(KFOR)- OKCPD responded to shots fired at NW 10th and Hudson early Sunday morning.

The shooting occurred at the Sunset Patio Bar.

Officers were in the area and noticed a verbal argument between two people at the bar.

One person was shot multiple times in the lower extremities and was transported to OU Medical Center. The victim is expected to make a full recovery.

The suspect tried to flee the scene.

Officers were able to detain the suspect a short time after.

One officer suffered a laceration to their head which was unrelated to the shooting and its preceding argument.

Shyon is trash that needs to be taken out. Close it down. Everything he touches turns out like this.

Shot his pinky toe off?

We went to Capitals Ice Cream last night and I was telling the kids about how bad this corner has gotten. Only a few hours later and some idiots prove this awesome dad right.

Criticize the operator all you want but there is a landlord that took them on fully knowing their reputation and lets them to continue to operate.

Criticize the operator all you want but there is a landlord that took them on fully knowing their reputation and lets them to continue to operate.
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Criticize the operator all you want but there is a landlord that took them on fully knowing their reputation and lets them to continue to operate.

The local media(okctalk included) has legitimized this guy by promoting him any time he announces a new “development” which always ends up being 1/100th of what was publicized.

The local media(okctalk included) has legitimized this guy by promoting him any time he announces a new “development” which always ends up being 1/100th of what was publicized.

OKCTalk has been quick to post any incidents, and there have been many.

The landlord that signed this deal was well aware of the past problems long before and continues to let them stay, most likely because they are making a lot of money by taking a percentage of the profits. In fact, my understanding is that the landlord fronted the substantial funds necessary for the build-out of this place.

Should OKCTalk just ignore it when a huge new place is going to open in the middle of Midtown? There are at least a dozen other operators in OKC with all types of criminal, bankruptcy and big debt problems -- we are generally the first to report such things. The operator of Sunset pays his bills and doesn't even have any pending lawsuits. Have you got something to share that can be independently verified or is this just a personal beef as you've posted about this more than once?


When someone does something illegal or starts stiffing creditors, we are all over it. We also don't just write an article and then never follow up; even the smallest projects get dozens of updates. So, if something changes, we report that too.

You should be directing your vitriol at the Oklahoman, not us.

By the way, Shyon displays this front-page-of-the-Sunday-Business-section Steve Lackmeyer article prominently in his office; the online version had a full video interview as well and the same writer has featured him prominently several times:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/shyon100323a.jpg

By the way, Shyon displays this front-page-of-the-Sunday-Business-section Steve Lackmeyer article prominently in his office; the online version had a full video interview as well and the same writer has featured him prominently several times:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/shyon100323a.jpg


https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=374-4-level-mixed-use-project-proposed-for-lower-Western-Avenue

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=584-Boutique-hotel-with-large-pool-planned-for-Midtown

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=750-Nuway-Laundry-building-sold-conversion-to-office-and-retail-planned

An On-Cue, Airbnb units, and a crypto mining operation.

Criticize the operator all you want but there is a landlord that took them on fully knowing their reputation and lets them to continue to operate.

Then the landlord is the trashcan Shyon needs to be taken out in.

how’s that?

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=374-4-level-mixed-use-project-proposed-for-lower-Western-Avenue

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=584-Boutique-hotel-with-large-pool-planned-for-Midtown

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=750-Nuway-Laundry-building-sold-conversion-to-office-and-retail-planned

An On-Cue, Airbnb units, and a crypto mining operation.

So OKCTalk, an organization focused on reporting about developments in OKC, shouldn’t report news about developments in OKC?

I don’t like the guy either but it isn’t Pete’s fault that his bars suck.

So OKCTalk, an organization focused on reporting about developments in OKC, shouldn’t report news about developments in OKC?

I don’t like the guy either but it isn’t Pete’s fault that his bars suck.

If someone never actually builds what they say they’re going to how are their plans news?

If someone never actually builds what they say they’re going to how are their plans news?

Did Kong’s OKC, Kong’s Norman or Sunset get built?

Did Kong’s OKC, Kong’s Norman or Sunset get built?

They’re all just tenants in buildings owned by other people?

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=374-4-level-mixed-use-project-proposed-for-lower-Western-Avenue

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=584-Boutique-hotel-with-large-pool-planned-for-Midtown

https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=750-Nuway-Laundry-building-sold-conversion-to-office-and-retail-planned

An On-Cue, Airbnb units, and a crypto mining operation.

And you only know this information from OKCTalk, as we just didn't just post an article and walk away. Literally hundreds of updates.

And then you're using a thread on Sunset to complain about "legitimacy" when it is actually open and extremely popular.

The Shay is open and operating, just not the pool. The Nuway Cleaners building was renovated and fully leased. He also fully leased his buildings on Western, but you conveniently leave that out. So in one instance (OnCue), the land was sold at a healthy profit after a project was announced? Where is your ire for the hundreds of other developers that announce plans that never materialize?


You clearly have some sort of personal issue here.

If you have some legitimate, verifiable claims of him not being legitimate, let's hear them and I'll investigate.

The landlord that signed this deal was well aware of the past problems long before and continues to let them stay, most likely because they are making a lot of money by taking a percentage of the profits. In fact, my understanding is that the landlord fronted the substantial funds necessary for the build-out of this place.

If it’s percentage rent, surely it can’t be that lucrative. Granted, I don’t ever see the place after 10pm or so but there’s hardly ever anyone there during earlier times when I go by it. Maybe the Friday/Saturday after 10pm crowds are huge, just don’t know.

If it’s percentage rent, surely it can’t be that lucrative. Granted, I don’t ever see the place after 10pm or so but there’s hardly ever anyone there during earlier times when I go by it. Maybe the Friday/Saturday after 10pm crowds are huge, just don’t know.

It is VERY popular after 10pm on weekends. I don't get it. it flies in the face of logic. It isn't anything special, yet it is always packed late at night.

Maybe people want to be at a place known for risky clientele. I have no idea.

If it’s percentage rent, surely it can’t be that lucrative. Granted, I don’t ever see the place after 10pm or so but there’s hardly ever anyone there during earlier times when I go by it. Maybe the Friday/Saturday after 10pm crowds are huge, just don’t know.

When we drove past on the night in question it was about 10:30 and they had lines to enter going both directions about 20-30 deep.

It's lines around the block on Friday and Saturday nights after about 9 or 10, and Sunday evenings too. They could probably close their doors but for those hours and capture 90% of their existing business. It's the same business model as places that were problematic for Bricktown in the past, back when BT was having similar issues.

It is VERY popular after 10pm on weekends. I don't get it. it flies in the face of logic. It isn't anything special, yet it is always packed late at night.

Maybe people want to be at a place known for risky clientele. I have no idea.

It's a meat market where one can score drugs would be my uneducated guess.

Sunset posted they will now be closing at midnight. Imagine it's a last ditch effort to stay in business.

Sunset posted they will now be closing at midnight. Imagine it's a last ditch effort to stay in business.

It's also a clear admission that the place is completely out of control.

Sunset posted they will now be closing at midnight. Imagine it's a last ditch effort to stay in business.

Someone will probably get shot over this idea.

Reminder that the same operator also runs Kong's right across the street.

Where do you think the Sunset patrons will go after midnight?

Sunset and Kongs both are going to have a bad time when Phillips Murrah opens next door.

Sunset and Kongs both are going to have a bad time when Phillips Murrah opens next door.

why?

why?
I could see PM throwing some legal weight around and making changes. PM will NOT put up with much. I've worked with them and they have high standards/ wants. I'm honestly surprised they are moving to this spot; from what I hear plenty of the lawyers don't want to move. This whole thing is very interesting to me, I have no idea how it will play out, but I'm watching!

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Also, increasingly Midtown Renaissance is making a huge investment in Midtown with plenty more on the way.

Between them and PM, they can put some strong pressure on the landlords who are enabling the mayhem in the immediate area.

Just a few days ago, Sunset social media accounts were promoting being open until 2 AM.

I'm not sure their hours have changed at all.

Just a few days ago, Sunset social media accounts were promoting being open until 2 AM.

I'm not sure their hours have changed at all.

Makes sense. This place has to do, what, probably a third of their overall sales between Midnight and 2 a.m. on Friday and Saturday nights? And there haven't been any consequences to their actions so far, so might as well keep on keeping on until someone forces you to stop.

Sounds like this place closes after the weekend

Not gonna lie, when I saw there was a new post in this thread I assumed there was another shooting.

Sounds like this place closes after the weekend

Their last day is today (Saturday 11/25).

The operators told me they have a 20-year lease and spent close to a million $ to renovate, so they are not going to walk away.

They hope to rebrand and reopen soon.

it's in a death spiral then, can't happen soon enough

"we'll just rebrand and advertise our way out of this" lol

it's in a death spiral then, can't happen soon enough

"we'll just rebrand and advertise our way out of this" lol

Hopefully, Kongs and Sunset ruin the vibe of Midtown.

20 year lease? Oooof

Any going away shootings for this place tonight?

20 year lease? Oooof

Why not just opt for a 99 year or lifetime :lol2:

I wonder is the 20 year lease is actually a five year lease with three 5 year options.

Hopefully, Kongs and Sunset ruin the vibe of Midtown.

love to have a nice cocktail at ludivine and then have to avoid being ran over by a dodge charger while crossing the street

Hopefully, Kongs and Sunset ruin the vibe of Midtown.

Went by Kongs the day before Thanksgiving and they have to be on life support at this point, They got rid of almost all their arcade games, no longer have any draft beer despite having like 20 taps and from what I could tell only really have bottom shelf liquor anymore. Also, that day when I was there 2 of the bathrooms were closed and the other two wouldn't flush literally filled with feces and no one working there seemed to care despite telling them about it. Honestly seemed like a place just keeping the doors open until their lease runs out.

I was told they are planning a remodel and will reopen with 3 difference concepts under one roof.

The operator still has a long-time lease on the property and invested a bunch of money, so they aren't going to just walk away.

It's SO tempting to make a joke here, but I will respectfully refrain.

I was told they are planning a remodel and will reopen with 3 difference concepts under one roof.

The operator still has a long-time lease on the property and invested a bunch of money, so they aren't going to just walk away.

The Operator must hang out at Glamour! Hah!

The Operator must hang out at Glamour! Hah!

it’s taken a few years but we’re learning just how much people appreciated and miss City Walk LOL. Jk

The current plan is for the former Sunset to become an event space for The Dailey, a coworking business.

Shyon Koeppel co-owns The Dailey and owns the building in which it is housed on N. May near Northpark Mall. He still has a long-term lease on this Midtown property.

The woman who runs the coworking space will also run the event space. They had a big blowout over the weekend with DJ's where the place operated pretty much like the Sunset of old, so not sure if that will still be happening on weekends unless they have been hired out for a private event.

Will it include a gun range?

Will it include a gun range?

It's outside on the street.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sunset042224a.jpg

Officially affiliated with the Thunder...?

Officially affiliated with the Thunder...?

Yes.

Yes.

oh boy. This will be interesting. Hopefully they can avoid the issues they had with Sunset with this new official connection to the Thunder.

Don't confuse those loud cracks outside with Thunder.