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scottk
01-06-2020, 03:28 PM
Just wondering if the Thunder games are on any of those free channels? I admit that I don't watch much OTA tv anymore but might start cutting the cord soon. I have Dish Netork and for some reason they don't have the Thunder games any longer so I am also on Youtube TV. Going to have to cut back soon.

Other than catching the occasional NBA on ABC with a Thunder match-up, no, you don't get Thunder games on Over the Air.

Sling TV was a good value option for streaming Thunder games with TNT and FSOK in the Sling blue package, but I think Sling dropped their Fox Sport Regionals when those were sold off from Fox Sports.

For those that remember, during the Thunder's first season, KSBI was the local carrier of Thunder games and branded themselves as Thunder TV. It would be nice if a local over-the-air option was still available for most Thunder games. It's hard to justify $40-$50 for one channel with live sports when nearly everything else offered on the cable streaming packages can be viewed on demand.

OKCRT
01-06-2020, 04:16 PM
Other than catching the occasional NBA on ABC with a Thunder match-up, no, you don't get Thunder games on Over the Air.

Sling TV was a good value option for streaming Thunder games with TNT and FSOK in the Sling blue package, but I think Sling dropped their Fox Sport Regionals when those were sold off from Fox Sports.

For those that remember, during the Thunder's first season, KSBI was the local carrier of Thunder games and branded themselves as Thunder TV. It would be nice if a local over-the-air option was still available for most Thunder games. It's hard to justify $40-$50 for one channel with live sports when nearly everything else offered on the cable streaming packages can be viewed on demand.

I agree that it would be nice if one of the local channels would carry the games and it would also skyrocket their channel ratings IMO. Not sure exactly how that works. I assume the local station would have to purchase the rights from the Fox affiliate and not directly from the Thunder.

BoulderSooner
01-07-2020, 07:52 AM
I agree that it would be nice if one of the local channels would carry the games and it would also skyrocket their channel ratings IMO. Not sure exactly how that works. I assume the local station would have to purchase the rights from the Fox affiliate and not directly from the Thunder.

foxsportsOK (FSOK) (which is now owned by sinclear and will be rebranded soon) has all the local rights to the thunder games and they do not have the right to resell them

PaddyShack
01-07-2020, 08:09 AM
I always thought a local OTA station needs to get local area rights for all OKC and maybe Tulsa sports teams. I'm talking Thunder, OKC Blue, OKC Energy FC, OKC Dodgers, Tulsa Drillers, Tulsa Oilers, then adding High School sports where there are gaps in programming. I would have the channel on at all times.

BoulderSooner
01-07-2020, 08:21 AM
I always thought a local OTA station needs to get local area rights for all OKC and maybe Tulsa sports teams. I'm talking Thunder, OKC Blue, OKC Energy FC, OKC Dodgers, Tulsa Drillers, Tulsa Oilers, then adding High School sports where there are gaps in programming. I would have the channel on at all times.

all of those would seem to be possible except for the thunder

Dob Hooligan
01-07-2020, 12:04 PM
Since Sinclair owns Stadium network, and it is primarily an OTA and streaming model, the opportunity for cross-platform integration makes the idea of having the local sports on one channel (or group) a possibility.

theparkman81
01-07-2020, 04:48 PM
Thought I read somewhere, that the network Quest is now on in OKC on KBZC 42.

SEMIweather
01-08-2020, 05:57 AM
I always thought a local OTA station needs to get local area rights for all OKC and maybe Tulsa sports teams. I'm talking Thunder, OKC Blue, OKC Energy FC, OKC Dodgers, Tulsa Drillers, Tulsa Oilers, then adding High School sports where there are gaps in programming. I would have the channel on at all times.

The Energy were on a News 9 alternate channel back in 2017 I think and it was great, no idea why that deal stopped.

Dob Hooligan
09-02-2021, 11:41 AM
Bumping this because I read KOCO is adding 2 more channels (5.4 and 5.5). Thought it was September 1, but tv won't scan them in yet. GetTV is supposed to be 5.4 and TheGrio is 5.5. Appears some shifting of channel agreements is occurring after Labor Day. I think Scripps is trying to consolidate some of the networks they bought from Katz onto their ION stations.

Roger S
09-02-2021, 12:11 PM
Bumping this because I read KOCO is adding 2 more channels (5.4 and 5.5). Thought it was September 1, but tv won't scan them in yet. GetTV is supposed to be 5.4 and TheGrio is 5.5. Appears some shifting of channel agreements is occurring after Labor Day. I think Scripps is trying to consolidate some of the networks they bought from Katz onto their ION stations.

Ion recently added several channels but they were mostly the same as what KSBI is showing..... I really only watch GRIT so it's nice if I'm getting a weak signal on one I can switch to the other.

SomeGuy
09-03-2021, 11:10 AM
Would be nice if we got Buzzr here

Sydonesia
09-03-2021, 06:36 PM
Would be nice if we got Buzzr here

If you have a smart TV or a Roku, download the Pluto app. Buzzr is one of the channels (along with GSN and a 24/7 Price is Right Bob Barker channel.)

SomeGuy
09-09-2021, 10:16 AM
Antenna TV is getting rid of all their 80s-2000s shows and putting them on a new network called RewindTV which launched last week. https://rewindtv.com/

MST3KServo
10-04-2021, 03:49 PM
Bumping this because I read KOCO is adding 2 more channels (5.4 and 5.5). Thought it was September 1, but tv won't scan them in yet. GetTV is supposed to be 5.4 and TheGrio is 5.5.

Hey Dob, where did you read about 5.4 and 5.5? Is anything else coming to the area?

Dob Hooligan
10-05-2021, 11:11 AM
Every few months, and especially around September 1st, I start googling digital subchannel names and search around to see what might be coming the area. Broadcatingcable.com can have good early info about what new networks are being started and what carriage deals are working. After that, kinda search that rabbit ears site and some others.

Dob Hooligan
10-25-2021, 05:58 PM
HOO-RAY! Took advantage of the perfect TV weather of mild temperatures and calm winds in order to rescan my OTA TV. Added the Grio on 5.5 and Get TV on 5.6. This old man is grooving on the "prime time is crime time" programming block the young lady station announcer told us plays weeknights. Kojak, Starsky & Hutch, Charlie's Angels and Hart to Hart all run back to back from 5 to 11. Add in Joe Namath, Jimmie "JJ" Walker or Barbara Niven hawking Medicare benefits every commercial break, plus the Big Mac and recliner dozing, and you realize this is truly "geezer heaven"!

Roger S
10-26-2021, 07:46 AM
Rescanned mine and noticed I also get 62-7 Newsy now as well as the 2 you mentioned..... I still pretty much just watch Grit except for the rare occasion I catch Svenghouli on Comet.

Bunty
11-04-2021, 10:02 PM
Rescanned mine and noticed I also get 62-7 Newsy now as well as the 2 you mentioned..... I still pretty much just watch Grit except for the rare occasion I catch Svenghouli on Comet.

How many channels did you get after rescanning?

Dob Hooligan
11-05-2021, 06:17 AM
How many channels did you get after rescanning?

My shop is in the fairgrounds area and the TV showed 70 channels were picked up during my rescan a couple weeks ago. About 40 of those are mainline entertainment, PBS type, or news programming in English language. The other 30 are pretty evenly split between Spanish language entertainment, shopping and religious programming. 20 to 25 are low power.

Roger S
11-05-2021, 08:34 AM
How many channels did you get after rescanning?

I don't remember off the top of my head and I walked off while it was scanning so I didn't see the final count but I'd say I was in the 60-70 range.... Getting a lot of duplicates in the area too... I know I have multiple channels of DABL, GRIT, and Court TV now and a couple of others that slip my mind.

Something else I find odd is that channel 9 hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. They only offer 9-2 and it just shows rebroadcasts of the most recent news broadcast. All of the other local stations, including PBS, have multiple sub-channels offering different programming.

Dob Hooligan
11-05-2021, 08:41 AM
I don't remember off the top of my head and I walked off while it was scanning so I didn't see the final count but I'd say I was in the 60-70 range.... Getting a lot of duplicates in the area too... I know I have multiple channels of DABL, GRIT, and Court TV now and a couple of others that slip my mind.

Something else I find odd is that channel 9 hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. They only offer 9-2 and it just shows rebroadcasts of the most recent news broadcast. All of the other local stations, including PBS, have multiple sub-channels offering different programming.

Remember channel 9 owns channel 52 now. I think they put the Scripps block of sub channels on 52 a couple years ago after they bought one or more radio stations in Tulsa from Scripps IIRC. however, I think Scripps bought ION TV since then and that is why Bounce and GRIT are on both 52 and 63.

Roger S
11-05-2021, 10:08 AM
Remember channel 9 owns channel 52 now. I think they put the Scripps block of sub channels on 52 a couple years ago after they bought one or more radio stations in Tulsa from Scripps IIRC. however, I think Scripps bought ION TV since then and that is why Bounce and GRIT are on both 52 and 63.

Ahhhhh.... Yeah, I forgot that 52 had been bought by 9.

scottk
11-06-2021, 07:18 AM
Something else I find odd is that channel 9 hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. They only offer 9-2 and it just shows rebroadcasts of the most recent news broadcast. All of the other local stations, including PBS, have multiple sub-channels offering different programming.

NEWS9 recently upgraded the over the air signal quality of 9.2, it's less compressed. I'm not technical, but basically it looks like they went from 480p widescreen to 720p , it's not as clean as their main signal for news, but much better than what it was. I still see many businesses running 9.2 in their lobby or coffee shop style setting. It's a quick way to get a detailed local weather forecast and catch up on headlines. (and it doesn't really costs much for News 9 to operate compared to the syndicated programs on other sub channels)
I wish KFOR and KOCO would do a similar news on demand sub channel. KFOR and KOCO use to have 24/7 weather on their sub channels, but that went away years ago.

Dob Hooligan
11-06-2021, 09:39 AM
NEWS9 recently upgraded the over the air signal quality of 9.2, it's less compressed. I'm not technical, but basically it looks like they went from 480p widescreen to 720p , it's not as clean as their main signal for news, but much better than what it was. I still see many businesses running 9.2 in their lobby or coffee shop style setting. It's a quick way to get a detailed local weather forecast and catch up on headlines. (and it doesn't really costs much for News 9 to operate compared to the syndicated programs on other sub channels)
I wish KFOR and KOCO would do a similar news on demand sub channel. KFOR and KOCO use to have 24/7 weather on their sub channels, but that went away years ago.

This kinda off in the weeds, but I wonder if channel 9 owner Griffin Communications made a deal with Cox when sub-channels first started along the lines of-

Griffin will provide 24 hour local news in exchange for an enhanced placement in the basic package and lower channel number. This is how we have it on channel 53 on Cox, while the other local sub-channels were in the 200s until the last couple years. Even though some of the sub-channels are in the 100s on Cox nowadays, it still is a challenging and fragmented area of the lineup.

scottk
11-06-2021, 07:43 PM
This kinda off in the weeds, but I wonder if channel 9 owner Griffin Communications made a deal with Cox when sub-channels first started along the lines of-

Griffin will provide 24 hour local news in exchange for an enhanced placement in the basic package and lower channel number. This is how we have it on channel 53 on Cox, while the other local sub-channels were in the 200s until the last couple years. Even though some of the sub-channels are in the 100s on Cox nowadays, it still is a challenging and fragmented area of the lineup.

Before Digital TV was main stream and sub channels were common, and when everyone still had cable...KWTV partnered with COX in 1996 to provide NewsNow53, which was placed on channel 53 on the analog COX cable system. It was originally only in OKC, but when the Multimedia Cablevision and Cox merger happened , News Now 53 spread out to the suburbs. A similar agreement occured in Tulsa with Griffin's KOTV and a looping newscast channel.

25 years later and News Now 53 is News 9 Now, but COX keeps it at channel 53...because well...it's always been that way. Same reason KOCO 5 remains at Channel 8 on the COX lineup, it's bleed over from the analog days when 5 on the cable system didn't look as good as channel 8, same could be said for FOX on channel 12 instead of 25. Which is where the "basic cable" lineup would drop out.

Bunty
11-08-2021, 12:00 AM
My shop is in the fairgrounds area and the TV showed 70 channels were picked up during my rescan a couple weeks ago. About 40 of those are mainline entertainment, PBS type, or news programming in English language. The other 30 are pretty evenly split between Spanish language entertainment, shopping and religious programming. 20 to 25 are low power.
20 to 25 are low power. Okay, that explains why I can only get 51 in Stillwater with an amplified indoor antenna.

Dob Hooligan
11-16-2021, 11:46 AM
MeTV leaving Cox?

I have noticed the last few days that the TruReal channel logo is being displayed on the Cox channel guide in the channel 222 spot. The programming is, and is listed as, MeTV, which has occupied that spot for 10 years-ish. I'm guessing TruReal will be taking the spot by the end of the year and MeTV will be leaving. Although this is heartbreaking for me, I am more interested in what is says about future trends in cable TV.

To get off in the weeds a bit; Hearst Communications owns KOCO and I'm guessing their carriage agreement with Cox for MeTV is expiring. The fact that Hearst is letting it expire makes me wonder if it is no longer worth it to be on cable. And Hearst appears to be upgrading their commitment to OTA subchannels with the addition to KOCO of a Shopping channel, the Grio and GetTV in 2021. Scripps owns TruReal and controls KOPX , OTA channel 62. They have added 4 subchannels to KOPX this year and Scripps owns several subchannel networks (Bounce, Laff, Grit, TruReal, etc).

This has me wondering if the value of OTA channels on cable is diminishing in the eyes of the OTA providers?

Bunty
11-17-2021, 11:44 AM
I don't watch the shopping channels or even the rerun channels. I'd still rather see popular cable channels take up the sub OTA TV channels, like Fox News, CNN, CNBC, HGTV, and ESPN for starters. That is a way to send the value of OTA channels up. Station owners ought to seek doing that and try to unblock whatever is holding it up. But I guess we have to keep trying to protect the cable TV companies from going further downhill.

Dob Hooligan
11-17-2021, 06:00 PM
I don't watch the shopping channels or even the rerun channels. I'd still rather see popular cable channels take up the sub OTA TV channels, like Fox News, CNN, CNBC, HGTV, and ESPN for starters. That is a way to send the value of OTA channels up. Station owners ought to seek doing that and try to unblock whatever is holding it up. But I guess we have to keep trying to protect the cable TV companies from going further downhill.

All the channels you list are paid a per household premium for the right to carry them on Cox, or whatever cable or satellite system they are on. I recall ESPN is the highest at about $10 per month. Fox News is highest rated, and I think second most expensive. I think the least expensive on the list is about $3 per month. They have high overhead and are built for paid subscribers as well as commercials on programming. I think Tegna and Sinclair are among the operators working to provide channels that fit in the categories you want. Sinclair has Stadium, a sports channel, and they have a news channel IIRC (whose name I don't remember). Tegna is working on a news channel. Defy TV, Newsy and others are trying to provide cable style programming, but they have small budgets. Gonna take them a few years to get to what you are looking for.

Dob Hooligan
11-22-2021, 11:21 AM
MeTV leaving Cox?

I have noticed the last few days that the TruReal channel logo is being displayed on the Cox channel guide in the channel 222 spot. The programming is, and is listed as, MeTV, which has occupied that spot for 10 years-ish. I'm guessing TruReal will be taking the spot by the end of the year and MeTV will be leaving. Although this is heartbreaking for me, I am more interested in what is says about future trends in cable TV.

To get off in the weeds a bit; Hearst Communications owns KOCO and I'm guessing their carriage agreement with Cox for MeTV is expiring. The fact that Hearst is letting it expire makes me wonder if it is no longer worth it to be on cable. And Hearst appears to be upgrading their commitment to OTA subchannels with the addition to KOCO of a Shopping channel, the Grio and GetTV in 2021. Scripps owns TruReal and controls KOPX , OTA channel 62. They have added 4 subchannels to KOPX this year and Scripps owns several subchannel networks (Bounce, Laff, Grit, TruReal, etc).

This has me wondering if the value of OTA channels on cable is diminishing in the eyes of the OTA providers?

Appears I am nuts. Cox corrected the channel guide to show MeTV on 222 last Sunday. And I also noticed they have picked up several smaller channels. Including digital sub-channels, such as LAFF and some of the crime and mystery channels in english. As well as some spanish language channels.

Dob Hooligan
03-29-2022, 11:03 AM
More good news! KOCO Channel 5 had added sub-channel 5.4 and is carrying Story Television on it. Story is a brand new channel developed by Weigel Television (the people behind MeTV on 5.2, Decades, and Heroes & Icons. Neither of which is on in OKC). It launched March 28 and is primarily programming from the History Channel library. my TV's channel guide shows it as Twist TV, for some reason, but the programming is Story.

MST3KServo
06-25-2022, 09:33 AM
Anyone else having issues picking up channel 42 or any of its subchannels? It shows up as available, but nothing comes in, but "Mode Not Supported".

Dob Hooligan
06-27-2022, 07:02 AM
Anyone else having issues picking up channel 42 or any of its subchannels? It shows up as available, but nothing comes in, but "Mode Not Supported".

My mother in law lives in Edmond, a couple miles from their tower (shows to be near I-35 and 2nd Street). I asked her to check it and could get any signal.

Any idea how long it been down? DTV America owns it and they run scores of low power stations nationwide.

MST3KServo
06-27-2022, 09:07 AM
My mother in law lives in Edmond, a couple miles from their tower (shows to be near I-35 and 2nd Street). I asked her to check it and could get any signal.

Any idea how long it been down? DTV America owns it and they run scores of low power stations nationwide.

I first noticed it Friday. It seems they are transmitting still, I do show a very good signal strength on the tv for their channel, but none of the seven channels are coming through.

I cannot say I watched the channel much, but was curious to see they were "off."

oklip955
06-27-2022, 10:41 AM
I first noticed it Friday. It seems they are transmitting still, I do show a very good signal strength on the tv for their channel, but none of the seven channels are coming through.

I cannot say I watched the channel much, but was curious to see they were "off."
I am east of I 35 a few miles and just checked my tv and it shows no signal. They must be off the air for some reason.

MST3KServo
06-29-2022, 01:26 PM
Well it looks like KBZC ch. 42 is back "on the air" again. I am seeing all sub channels as well.

Roger S
06-29-2022, 02:50 PM
I'm not seeing them on the SW side of OKC but I may need to rescan to get them back.

Dob Hooligan
06-29-2022, 02:55 PM
I'm not seeing them on the SW side of OKC but I may need to rescan to get them back.

I have had hell getting KBZC in the Village through the years. I just chalked it up to KBZC being a low power station. Have you been able to get it in SW OKC? I might have to get back on the wierdo antenna chase again!

Roger S
06-29-2022, 02:56 PM
Nope.... I just rescanned and not seeing it at 29th and Morgan

Bunty
06-29-2022, 06:50 PM
Nope.... I just rescanned and not seeing it at 29th and Morgan

If using an indoor antenna, put it up as high as possible.

MST3KServo
01-16-2023, 05:00 PM
Quest popped up for me on 5.7, no scanning needed on my home TV, but had to scan for it on my old small tv. Enjoying some of the content on it.

Dob Hooligan
01-17-2023, 03:37 PM
Quest popped up for me on 5.7, no scanning needed on my home TV, but had to scan for it on my old small tv. Enjoying some of the content on it.

I got it on mine, as well. Can't get the programing guide up, however. Can you describe what kinda stuff is on Quest?

Chicken In The Rough
01-17-2023, 04:09 PM
I'd like to see MoviesTV come to OKC broadcast channels.

https://moviestvnetwork.com/

It's similar to TCM on cable. I miss it everytime I'm in OKC for a visit.

gjl
01-17-2023, 07:17 PM
I got it on mine, as well. Can't get the programing guide up, however. Can you describe what kinda stuff is on Quest?

https://www.questtv.com/schedule?reload=true

Bobby821
05-09-2023, 04:18 PM
Attention Rewind TV viewers in the Oklahoma City area, we have good news! Rewind TV is now on KAUT 43.2 and Cox channel 220. Please share the news with family and friends! #rewindtv #antennatv #oklahomacity #oklahoma #80s #90s #nostalgia #retro

Dob Hooligan
05-09-2023, 07:33 PM
Attention Rewind TV viewers in the Oklahoma City area, we have good news! Rewind TV is now on KAUT 43.2 and Cox channel 220. Please share the news with family and friends! #rewindtv #antennatv #oklahomacity #oklahoma #80s #90s #nostalgia #retro
Rewind TV is owned by Nextstar, who owns KFOR channel 4 and KAUT channel 43 in Oklahoma City. Rewind is sitcoms from the 1980s and 1990s. Mainly 90s. No dramas or black and white shows. Court TV is still on KOPX channel 62.3 over the air.

scottk
10-01-2023, 06:55 PM
A question for someone more technical on the forum:

Has something change in regards to the quality of Over the Air channels?

We cut the cord nearly a decade ago and get all of the networks (NBC, ABC, FOX, CBS, PBS, etc) from antenna. Recently, we have noticed a lot more artifacts and digital compression on programming. This is especially obvious when watching live sports. The score bugs, graphics, and fast motion all look awful for HD quality. We live in the OKC metro about 10-15 miles from the towers as the crow flies and we are not having reception issues. The signal is fine, just the overall quality of picture has been much more "compressed"

The quality is across all of our TV's of various sizes and brands. Did TV stations have to downgrade the quality they broadcast at when the channels all moved into the lower UHF frequencies?

Dob Hooligan
10-02-2023, 08:19 AM
I'm not an expert, but I do pay a fair amount of attention. I think most OKC stations have changed to ATSC 3.0 broadcast signal within the last 5-ish years. I'm not sure what it is, but it's supposed to be really neato when fully implemented.

I watch a lot of over the air. Sub-channels and low power stations. I'm starting to wonder if my shop HD Homerun unit is old and breaking down? I have hell getting KOCO to come in during certain extra hot or cold times.

Do you have a "whole house" unit that sends the antenna signal to your devices, or is the signal individually cabled to each TV straight from the antenna?

FighttheGoodFight
10-02-2023, 08:40 AM
I haven't noticed this. I am in Norman. I have an attic antenna to an HDHomeRun 4k. I do have double channels for the ones on ATSC3 and the old ones.

scottk
10-02-2023, 05:26 PM
I'm not an expert, but I do pay a fair amount of attention. I think most OKC stations have changed to ATSC 3.0 broadcast signal within the last 5-ish years. I'm not sure what it is, but it's supposed to be really neato when fully implemented.

I watch a lot of over the air. Sub-channels and low power stations. I'm starting to wonder if my shop HD Homerun unit is old and breaking down? I have hell getting KOCO to come in during certain extra hot or cold times.

Do you have a "whole house" unit that sends the antenna signal to your devices, or is the signal individually cabled to each TV straight from the antenna?

We have an attic in the antenna that is connected to a few of the TV's, no amplifier. For our TV's not near existing cable outlets, we have flat antennas on the back.

I know that KOCO and OETA are still both on VHF channels, while all the other OKC channels are UHF. Most newer antennas favor the UHF, however, with a little adjusting we are able to get KOCO and OETA just fine.

You bring up a good point about ATSC 3.0, I wonder if that compresses the signal differently, all of our TV's with built in tuners are still the ATSC 2.0 channels. I also figured all of the sub networks were causing the main signal to become more compressed.

Bunty
10-09-2023, 12:22 PM
We have an attic in the antenna that is connected to a few of the TV's, no amplifier. For our TV's not near existing cable outlets, we have flat antennas on the back.

I know that KOCO and OETA are still both on VHF channels, while all the other OKC channels are UHF. Most newer antennas favor the UHF, however, with a little adjusting we are able to get KOCO and OETA just fine.

You bring up a good point about ATSC 3.0, I wonder if that compresses the signal differently, all of our TV's with built in tuners are still the ATSC 2.0 channels. I also figured all of the sub networks were causing the main signal to become more compressed.

You mean ATSC 1.0. Because according to wiki, "ATSC 2.0 was a planned major new revision of the standard which would have been backward compatible with ATSC 1.0. The standard was to have allowed interactive and hybrid television technologies by connecting the TV with the Internet services and allowing interactive elements into the broadcast stream. Other features were to have included advanced video compression, audience measurement, targeted advertising, enhanced programming guides, video on demand services, and the ability to store information on new receivers, including Non-realtime (NRT) content.[15][16][17]

However, ATSC 2.0 was never actually launched, as it was essentially outdated before it could be launched. All of the changes that were a part of the ATSC 2.0 revision were adopted into ATSC 3.0."

Moving to a different informative topic, flat indoor antennas work out best if they are made to accept connections with RG-6 cable. That kind of cable cuts down on signal loss. I know, since using an antenna like that gets me all the high powered OKC stations, but it had to be mounted at ceiling level. That way it gets VHF 5 and 13 fine and steady. Most flat antennas, though, come with a thin built-in cable that can't be traded with RG-6 cable. Such antennas may work out if you don't live too far from the towers. Stillwater, especially in the valleys, can be difficult with bringing in all the high powered OKC TV stations with a steady signal when using an indoor antenna, amped or not.

The Antenna Man on YouTube is a great place to get elaborate info on indoor as well as outdoor antennas. He has tested a bunch of them.

kevok
10-09-2023, 06:18 PM
A question for someone more technical on the forum:

Has something change in regards to the quality of Over the Air channels?


I do think something has changed recently. My mother in Guthrie used to get a lot of the primary channels but recently only Ch 5 and a couple of the subs seems to work. Nothing changed with her setup as set it up for her (she can't reach it) and verified everything is still the same. Nothing constructed outside her house or in line of sight towards OKC. Now, no other configuration gets the other channels back (Channels (and their subs) 4, 9, 13). It's an amplified flat panel antenna.

Newbomb Turk
10-10-2023, 05:12 AM
Perhaps the amplifier in the panel died or the power supply.

scottk
10-10-2023, 08:47 PM
If you watched the OU Texas game this weekend, the OTA feed had many drop outs apparently due to the the ABC/Disney satellite aligning with the sun and causing drop outs. This was apparently not just for antenna viewers, but also on all the cable and streaming feeds were impacted from the main ABC feed.

Guess it still makes sense that the network bounces a signal up to the satellite and all the affiliates can pull down simultaneously, just figured there would be a backup method in 2023 that would be fiber or IPTV based in addition to satellites.

jedicurt
10-11-2023, 07:35 AM
If you watched the OU Texas game this weekend, the OTA feed had many drop outs apparently due to the the ABC/Disney satellite aligning with the sun and causing drop outs. This was apparently not just for antenna viewers, but also on all the cable and streaming feeds were impacted from the main ABC feed.

Guess it still makes sense that the network bounces a signal up to the satellite and all the affiliates can pull down simultaneously, just figured there would be a backup method in 2023 that would be fiber or IPTV based in addition to satellites.

i heard that there are backups in place by using stadium internet infrastructure. but that isn't the case with the cotton bowl as it hasn't been updated to provide such. now, why couldn't ABC/Disney bring in their own equipment as a backup, who knows...

TornadoKegan
10-12-2023, 07:11 AM
I Recall a couple of years ago, I have been able to receive KTEN from Moore, it was In and out, and it was in late fall in the middle of the night. The thing is i only used a $5 OTA Antenna from 5 Below.

mugofbeer
10-13-2023, 09:07 AM
If you watched the OU Texas game this weekend, the OTA feed had many drop outs apparently due to the the ABC/Disney satellite aligning with the sun and causing drop outs. This was apparently not just for antenna viewers, but also on all the cable and streaming feeds were impacted from the main ABC feed.

Guess it still makes sense that the network bounces a signal up to the satellite and all the affiliates can pull down simultaneously, just figured there would be a backup method in 2023 that would be fiber or IPTV based in addition to satellites.

My reception for OU/TX on cable in Denver glitched out a few times and the sound quality was off a bit but the announcers actually apologized for their technical difficulties so it was coming from the stadium itself.

TVVoiceGuy
11-10-2023, 02:08 PM
A question for someone more technical on the forum:

Has something change in regards to the quality of Over the Air channels?

We cut the cord nearly a decade ago and get all of the networks (NBC, ABC, FOX, CBS, PBS, etc) from antenna. Recently, we have noticed a lot more artifacts and digital compression on programming. This is especially obvious when watching live sports. The score bugs, graphics, and fast motion all look awful for HD quality. We live in the OKC metro about 10-15 miles from the towers as the crow flies and we are not having reception issues. The signal is fine, just the overall quality of picture has been much more "compressed"

The quality is across all of our TV's of various sizes and brands. Did TV stations have to downgrade the quality they broadcast at when the channels all moved into the lower UHF frequencies?

Most likely due to the increased number of sub-channels being added, and the bandwidth available to carry them. Think of it as a pie. 1 channel = the whole pie (bandwidth). 2 channels = half the pie (bandwidth) each. When you get up into the higher number of subchannels, you're talking about splitting the bandwidth 6 ways, 7 ways, or more. Each channel gets less and less, ultimately causing signal degradation on the main channel as well. You may have perfect signal strength, but due to the bandwidth split, pixelization will still occur.

scottk
11-10-2023, 04:57 PM
Most likely due to the increased number of sub-channels being added, and the bandwidth available to carry them. Think of it as a pie. 1 channel = the whole pie (bandwidth). 2 channels = half the pie (bandwidth) each. When you get up into the higher number of subchannels, you're talking about splitting the bandwidth 6 ways, 7 ways, or more. Each channel gets less and less, ultimately causing signal degradation on the main channel as well. You may have perfect signal strength, but due to the bandwidth split, pixelization will still occur.

Yuck, most of the subchannels are "throw away" channels - I think OKC has QVC Over the Air on four different stations. I don't think there would be a lot of pushback to prioritize the main signal with more bandwidth during sporting events and primetime.

Thanks for the explanation.

Bunty
06-25-2024, 02:52 AM
As of Tuesday, MeTV Toons has just started in OKC on channel 30.7. Since it's a new subchannel you will have to rescan your TV for it. It may still be playing promos. Cartoons will mainly be old classic ones. In Tulsa, it's on channel 41.5.

Some things to know about MeTV Toons:

1. MeTv Toons is an over the air broadcast channel. Not cable, not a streaming service. Just an over the air broadcast channel.
2. MeTV Toons is labeled as a channel for Adults.
3. If your cable or satellite provider doesn't carry the channel, contact them to carry it.
4. No toy or cereal commercials will be on MeTV. (See number two)
5. No Cartoon Network shows will be on the channel.
6. There will be specials produced for the channel.
7. MeTV Toons will be a work in progress.