Scratch and Bistro 22 were two of my faves. This is such a bummer.

Scratch and Bistro 22 were two of my faves. This is such a bummer.

I like them both as well but I realized I haven't been to either in several years.

Just so many more good choices now.

I think it was in the NewsOk article they said they were going in a different direction for that space. Sounds like they have something planned.

I think it was in the NewsOk article they said they were going in a different direction for that space. Sounds like they have something planned.

Yeah sounds like it was going...south.

I like them both as well but I realized I haven't been to either in several years.

Just so many more good choices now.

It had been a year or so since we had been to Scratch, but yes, the "problem" is that there are tons of good places to eat now, we're still trying to get to some for the first time that have been open for a few years (we need to step up our eat-out-during-the-week game instead of just going out once a week).

Saw today that The Catch at Belle Isle has closed. Asked a friend of a friend who said it was their least profitable location

Saw today that The Catch at Belle Isle has closed. Asked a friend of a friend who said it was their least profitable location

Surprised it lasted as long as it did.

It wasn't bad, but it also didn't really offer anything interesting and since so much of it was fried it's like...am I really getting something that different than fast food? And when you then factor in prices it was definitely not a good get.

Also, that strip center has had a rough go of it the last 5ish years. Seems like they're struggling to find the right type of tenants. I'd love to see this thing dozed so that Wal-Mart could have more parking while a 4-6 story garage gets built in front of Wal-Mart.

Surprised it lasted as long as it did.

It wasn't bad, but it also didn't really offer anything interesting and since so much of it was fried it's like...am I really getting something that different than fast food? And when you then factor in prices it was definitely not a good get.

Also, that strip center has had a rough go of it the last 5ish years. Seems like they're struggling to find the right type of tenants. I'd love to see this thing dozed so that Wal-Mart could have more parking while a 4-6 story garage gets built in front of Wal-Mart.

I’d rather see the Walmart get razed along with the entire development and try again.

I’d rather see the Walmart get razed along with the entire development and try again.

Meh. People love to complain about Walmart -- and I get it, to a certain extent -- but this particular location is an important grocery store for the core.

I’d rather see the Walmart get razed along with the entire development and try again.

That's not ever going to happen. Anyway, back to restaurant closures.

It appears that Yuzo Sushi and Tapas is biting the dust today.

It appears that Yuzo Sushi and Tapas is biting the dust today.

That’s unfortunate. We used to be regulars there.

Meh. People love to complain about Walmart -- and I get it, to a certain extent -- but this particular location is an important grocery store for the core.
It’s busy all the time. Probably because so many people don’t like it. Lol

I used to hate Walmart just because it’s popular to hate on Walmart but now not having many of them in LA having to drive to Burbank or Van Nuys. Now I love them and their outdoor gear brand. I wish Hollywood or the west side would get one.

Surprised it lasted as long as it did.

It wasn't bad, but it also didn't really offer anything interesting and since so much of it was fried it's like...am I really getting something that different than fast food? And when you then factor in prices it was definitely not a good get.

Also, that strip center has had a rough go of it the last 5ish years. Seems like they're struggling to find the right type of tenants. I'd love to see this thing dozed so that Wal-Mart could have more parking while a 4-6 story garage gets built in front of Wal-Mart.

The access situation for that strip mall is brutal. I think the intersection really hurts it since WB NW EXPY traffic can’t turn right (legally). It’s supposed to overshoot and then cut back through the mall parking lot.

Of course, it helps to be right next to a Walmart, but I would guess that the ven diagram of walmart shoppers and, say, Peiwei Patrons, is pretty small.

The access situation for that strip mall is brutal. I think the intersection really hurts it since WB NW EXPY traffic can’t turn right (legally). It’s supposed to overshoot and then cut back through the mall parking lot.

Of course, it helps to be right next to a Walmart, but I would guess that the ven diagram of walmart shoppers and, say, Peiwei Patrons, is pretty small.

90%+ of WB traffic crossing the intersection you referenced would have first gone through the Classen/NWX intersection where they should have gone north on Classen to turn west onto Belle Isle Blvd. There aren't really access issues and the strip centers by Chili's even landed a stand alone Bath and Body Works.

Jamba Juice, Freebirds, now The Catch and I think another restaurant has failed here in the last 10 years (along with quite a bit of retail). Pei Wei has been there almost 15 years (or maybe longer?) so it's not like you can't have success - maybe it's because Pei Wei has a bigger space that makes rent easier manage against revenue.

^pei wei has been in that location for around 20 years... i started working in the area in february of 2004 and our office ate there fairly regularly. obviously, the point stands that it's possible to succeed in this location.

I really liked The Catch.

Only place in the area to get counter-service catfish and they made everything fresh. I'll miss it.

It appears that Yuzo Sushi and Tapas is biting the dust today.

This is not surprising. Went there earlier this year, and while the food was good, the atmosphere and overall experiences was really off. Kinda seem like a candidate for Restaurant Impossible. Just didn't really have an identity.

This is not surprising. Went there earlier this year, and while the food was good, the atmosphere and overall experiences was really off. Kinda seem like a candidate for Restaurant Impossible. Just didn't really have an identity.

I loved the food there but the space was too big, which made it feel dead more often than not.

Also, they did almost nothing to promote themselves.

I loved the food there but the space was too big, which made it feel dead more often than not.

Also, they did almost nothing to promote themselves.

Yep, and they may have just outlived their useful life - we ate there a few times after they opened, but now that there are billions of restaurants that have opened since they did, we just didn't get there again.

Someone over on reddit said they had walked by and a sign on the door said they had failed to pay taxes

I liked the Yuzo sign/logo. It will be missed.

The food? Never ate there.

Just saw Oak & Ore is closing. December 2nd will be their last day.

Very sad news. They were such an integral part of the Plaza, but the last time we were in there there was hardly anybody there.

Noo! Damn it.

So strange all these places are closing just before the holidays.

Maybe that's a slow time for restaurants, as people tend to cook at home.

Edie's in Penn Square is closed. Sign says Cantaritos Mexican Grill is coming soon.

Hopefully their spot in the Collective is going. I liked them in the mall.

Just saw Oak & Ore is closing. December 2nd will be their last day.

Very sad news. They were such an integral part of the Plaza, but the last time we were in there there was hardly anybody there.

Dang we just walked by there on Saturday after having dinner at Ma der lao and my wife remarked she couldn't believe it was still open. Spoke too soon. Lot of places closing lately and this is heading into the best time of the year. December can cover up a lot of mediocre months for many places. I wonder if we are just at a certain level of saturation now with so many great places or if it's more a sign of the shaky economy/inflation driven.

Just saw Oak & Ore is closing. December 2nd will be their last day.

Very sad news. They were such an integral part of the Plaza, but the last time we were in there there was hardly anybody there.

amazed it has lasted this long ..

Dang we just walked by there on Saturday after having dinner at Ma der lao and my wife remarked she couldn't believe it was still open. Spoke too soon. Lot of places closing lately and this is heading into the best time of the year. December can cover up a lot of mediocre months for many places. I wonder if we are just at a certain level of saturation now with so many great places or if it's more a sign of the shaky economy/inflation driven.

Probably more of a sign of the shaky economy/rates/inflation etc. I will say it would be a bigger concern if higher-end concepts were closing right now as a place like Oak and Ore is not going to be booking many holiday parties in comparison to something like Stock & Bond.

Hope people can find work around the holidays because November is a hard time to lose your job.

Oak and Ore always had great local beers on tap. Stuff you couldn't get anywhere else. But there was never anyone there. The Plaza needs more developments like on Division St. in Portland. 3-4 stories of housing on top of these bars and restaurants. Literally, there are hardly any restaurants on a lot of the cross streets in Portland without multiple 3-4 story housing developments on top of them. They help to sustain the restaurants and bars below. Until the Plaza has that, these places will keep dying. Empire and the Mule will survive, but none of the rest are safe.

They easily had one of the best beer selections in the metro...hate to see it, but they were dead the last 20 times I've been.

Last time I saw them busy was for fried chicken night before COVID. Hate to see it.

So strange all these places are closing just before the holidays.

Maybe that's a slow time for restaurants, as people tend to cook at home.
So many things that I see "People do" that make me wonder if my wife and I are people. LOL
The only thing about this time of year that keeps us at home is when they close on holiday days.

They easily had one of the best beer selections in the metro...hate to see it, but they were dead the last 20 times I've been.

Last time I saw them busy was for fried chicken night before COVID. Hate to see it.A number of places we go that were packed every night pre COVID have never returned to their previous levels of business. Many because now they can't keep servers and kitchen staff so the service suffers.

Only went to Oak and Ore once...nice place but prices were pretty steep

Only went to Oak and Ore once...nice place but prices were pretty steep

Agreed, they did have a heck of a tap selection the time I went, though. I enjoyed it, but it was pricy for me.

amazed it has lasted this long ..

that is the way i felt as well. when it first opened, it was the only place to get a lot of really good and rare beers. but that isn't the case anymore. and i could go now to a handful of other places and get the same items for usually less money. i think Oak and Oar was a really good idea when they opened because they were kind of the first. but the never adjusted when competition was created.

Oak and Ore always had great local beers on tap. Stuff you couldn't get anywhere else. But there was never anyone there. The Plaza needs more developments like on Division St. in Portland. 3-4 stories of housing on top of these bars and restaurants. Literally, there are hardly any restaurants on a lot of the cross streets in Portland without multiple 3-4 story housing developments on top of them. They help to sustain the restaurants and bars below. Until the Plaza has that, these places will keep dying. Empire and the Mule will survive, but none of the rest are safe.

i mean that was the case, before Patriarch and Social Capital. in fact, since social capital opened, i have not been to Oak and Oar. i just felt it was a better set up, easier to get in and out of, and just overall a better experience than any of the experiences i had at Oak and Oar.

Another drinking establishment goes down. Seems like we've seen a lot of that in recent months.

Sadly the closing bug has hit Ned’s Starlight lounge. They are closing immediately per their Facebook post.

Sadly the closing bug has hit Ned’s Starlight lounge. They are closing immediately per their Facebook post.

Sad. I have been there several times recently, though, and the crowd was somewhat lacking.

Sadly the closing bug has hit Ned’s Starlight lounge. They are closing immediately per their Facebook post.

I know Ned.

He told me another concept will be going in soon.

I know Ned.

He told me another concept will be going in soon.

Good deal. I haven’t seen his son in a few months so I hadn’t heard that anything new was coming down the pipe.

Loved the vibe at Ned's. Food had some unique flavors as well. Crowd was very inconsistent though. Online records indicate the demise is directly related to state sales tax issues in the six figures. Shame. Good local hole-in-the-wall.

I know Ned.

He told me another concept will be going in soon.

Hope they hire better staff - we tried to eat there twice in the past 6-8 months and with only about 5 other patrons in the place at 2 tables (and a few at the bar), there was no wait staff and the bartender ignored us, so we walked out both times after waiting 5-10 mins.

Hope they hire better staff - we tried to eat there twice in the past 6-8 months and with only about 5 other patrons in the place at 2 tables (and a few at the bar), there was no wait staff and the bartender ignored us, so we walked out both times after waiting 5-10 mins.

I loved Ned's food but their service was EXTREMELY hit-or-miss. I've had times where the staff flat-out forgot we were there (even once they admitted they forgot to put our food order in) and other times when the service was so fast that from coming in to ordering to getting our food took like 20 minutes. And I think out of the three times I ordered delivery, they only got my order right once.

I loved Ned's food but their service was EXTREMELY hit-or-miss. I've had times where the staff flat-out forgot we were there (even once they admitted they forgot to put our food order in) and other times when the service was so fast that from coming in to ordering to getting our food took like 20 minutes. And I think out of the three times I ordered delivery, they only got my order right once.

Agree on the food - went there a couple of times shortly after they opened and both food and service were great, hopefully they figure service out next time.

Service problems often come when business is slow and the restaurant has to lay off workers or they leave for greener pastures and better tips.

I had nothing but great service in the beginning but had not been recently when others reported a decline.

Often, it's a downward spiral and it becomes increasingly difficult to turn things around.

Ludivine is closing at the end of the year.

Ludivine is closing at the end of the year.

Wow, another one bites the dust,
But December made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step

That's sad even though I ate there once 10 years ago when my friend was a sous chef there.

Ludivine is closing at the end of the year.

This one hurts on a other level.

Ludivine is closing at the end of the year.

Over the heads of too many people after covid and inflation?

Ludivine is closing at the end of the year.

I wonder who owns that building? Who will potentially get in there? What's wrong with Midtown?

I wonder who owns that building? Who will potentially get in there? What's wrong with Midtown?

Getting too expensive, is my guess.

Dang, hate to see Ludivine go. I had never been to the new location but we used to go to the original for drinks occasionally back in the day. Transformative restaurant in OKC for sure. I wonder if things were different after Jonathan and Russ parted ways?

I wonder who owns that building? Who will potentially get in there? What's wrong with Midtown?

Chip Fudge owns the building and I'm sure he was/is an investor.

That’s very disappointing

There's a theme I sense on this thread. And I'm very guilty of it myself.
"I'm so sorry they closed. I used to go there a lot".
Like I said, I'm as guilty as anyone.

There's a theme I sense on this thread. And I'm very guilty of it myself.
"I'm so sorry they closed. I used to go there a lot".
Like I said, I'm as guilty as anyone.

No doubt. I loved ludevine but I thought I could get food I enjoyed more elsewhere at that price point which led to me not going as much.