I don't follow college football so maybe someone can elucidate if distances are truly shorter between conference schools?

West Virginia is a Big XII member... The rest of the schools are in Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, and Iowa.... I don't know their schedule this season but they will play 4-5 away games. So for them travel is not going to be lessened... Depending on what their non-conference schedule would have been. They probably travel further playing conference away games than non-conference.

They do not work, I wore a mask since covid started and I still got the virus

They arent 100% effective but they do help lessen the chance of spread. Eyes are still a source of infection as well, which masks dont do anything for.

They do not work, I wore a mask since covid started and I still got the virus

Wearing the mask is more about giving than receiving. If you are around people refusing to wear theirs, yours is much less effective. We wear it to not spread to others. After this experience you should be the first to be insisting those around you wear it.

BTW, they are now discovering that because you have it once you aren't protected for very long. Good luck.

They do not work, I wore a mask since covid started and I still got the virus

I realize this is off topic and I hope you have recovered, but please consider donating for plasmapheresis. Your antibodies could help some of our sickest patients, and in the spirit of the thread, those patients could be in ICUs at OU Medical or OSU Tulsa. No bias when it comes to antibodies 😁

They do not work, I wore a mask since covid started and I still got the virus
I hope this is sarcasm. If it's not then as others have stated, the masks keep your germs in but don't necessarily keep other peoples germs out. So if everyone wears a mask, then everyone's germs stay in and won't spread. I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't, please do more research on the topic because people refusing to wear masks is a big reason we're not going to have college sports this fall.

I hope this is sarcasm. If it's not then as others have stated, the masks keep your germs in but don't necessarily keep other peoples germs out. So if everyone wears a mask, then everyone's germs stay in and won't spread. I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't, please do more research on the topic because people refusing to wear masks is a big reason we're not going to have college sports this fall.

I am not a sarcastic person and who says there are not going to have college sports?

I am not a sarcastic person and who says there are not going to have college sports?

Have just ignored what everyone has said in response to your "I wore a mask and still got covid" post?

Have just ignored what everyone has said in response to your "I wore a mask and still got covid" post?

I did not ingore, I just did not understand what you all are saying so I am not a smart person so I give up, oh well! I am leaving this thread so I hope you and everyone else have a great day! :D

I hope this is sarcasm. If it's not then as others have stated, the masks keep your germs in but don't necessarily keep other peoples germs out. So if everyone wears a mask, then everyone's germs stay in and won't spread. I hope that makes sense. If it doesn't, please do more research on the topic because people refusing to wear masks is a big reason we're not going to have college sports this fall.
Technically, the masks don't necessarily keep the germs in either. They reduce the amount that gets out by catching much of the carrier droplets and also reduce the travel distance of the ones that do get through. They aren't perfect, which is why it's still a good idea to distance yourself from others, even if everyone is wearing a mask. That and not touching your face before washing/sanitizing your hands first will go a long way toward reducing your risk.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1292148422007496706

"Per discussions in the past few minutes, several college athletic leaders from across the country are beginning to privately agree with this quote that Pat tweeted a couple hours ago.

It's a sweeping feeling."


And the tweet he is quoting:

Prominent industry source: "I think by the end of the week the fall sports will be postponed in all conferences."

I realize this is off topic and I hope you have recovered, but please consider donating for plasmapheresis. Your antibodies could help some of our sickest patients, and in the spirit of the thread, those patients could be in ICUs at OU Medical or OSU Tulsa. No bias when it comes to antibodies ��I don’t think I saw this before now. I have donated plasma 3 times. I’m going to again in a week.


BTW, they are now discovering that because you have it once you aren't protected for very long. Good luck.
This is one more thing no one can just say as an absolute. I had it 5 months ago and my antibodies are still high enough to donate plasma.

https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1292148422007496706

"Per discussions in the past few minutes, several college athletic leaders from across the country are beginning to privately agree with this quote that Pat tweeted a couple hours ago.

It's a sweeping feeling."


And the tweet he is quoting:

Prominent industry source: "I think by the end of the week the fall sports will be postponed in all conferences."
I won’t be at all surprised. And as devastating as it would be for many college’s financial health I think it’s the best route.

Seems like you could really get a deal out of these Colleges if you’re looking to go back for a Masters or Doctorate in the near future.

I imagine they would deal.

BREAKING: Tulsa has to postpone opener with Cowboys
https://www.stwnewspress.com/sports/breaking-tulsa-has-to-postpone-opener-with-cowboys/article_f1384c64-f174-11ea-8621-efac33364d80.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSfGlHFfpwc

Cowboys looking great this year. Defense was outstanding!

If both of our two major university teams can continue to improve prior to the Bedlam showdown, this game will spotlight our state which has 3 competitive teams in OSU (4-0), OU (3-2) and TU (2-1) which is always good for recruiting.

Tulsa defeated South Florida 42-13 on Friday. Just to give you the scope on University of South Florida it has an enrollment of 49,591 compared to OU 25,886, OSU 24,649 and TU 4,380.

South Florida is 10x the size of TU.

Let's say OSU goes undefeated this season. What are the odds that they don't make the playoff?

Let's say OSU goes undefeated this season. What are the odds that they don't make the playoff?

If they go undefeated, OSU will make the playoffs. That means wins over the rest of the schedule Texas, KSU, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, TCU & Baylor. Glad they aren't ranked real high--keeps the morale up and the enthusiasm. Appears to me to be one of the most promising NCAA Division I teams. Well balanced on offense & defense.

It depends. If Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio State all go undefeated too, I wouldn't like OSU's chances.

It depends. If Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio State all go undefeated too, I wouldn't like OSU's chances.

Clemson and Notre Dame play each other on 11/7.

If OSU goes undefeated, there is a zero percent chance they miss the playoffs.

The odds are not 100% OSU makes the playoffs undefeated. We know they won't get the benefit of the doubt, but I suspect there would have to be 4 other undefeated powerhouses. As Rover said, if Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio State are undefeated than OSU is likely out. Even an undefeated OSU team could have to fight for a spot against a, for example, 1 loss George team. With less games, these things more possible than in other seasons. Having said that, I'd put an undefeated OSU at 80% in.

The odds are not 100% OSU makes the playoffs undefeated. We know they won't get the benefit of the doubt, but I suspect there would have to be 4 other undefeated powerhouses. As Rover said, if Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame and Ohio State are undefeated than OSU is likely out. Even an undefeated OSU team could have to fight for a spot against a, for example, 1 loss George team. With less games, these things more possible than in other seasons. Having said that, I'd put an undefeated OSU at 80% in.

It is literally impossible for Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, and Ohio state state to all go undefeated. Clemson plays Notre Dame on 11/7. I’m pretty sure one of those teams will lose that game. Because they are playing against each other, on 11/7.

Clemson and Notre Dame play each other on 11/7.

If OSU goes undefeated, there is a zero percent chance they miss the playoffs.

clemson and ND would also play eachother again in the ACC title game


the worry would be undefeated oregon or usc ..

clemson and ND would also play eachother again in the ACC title game


the worry would be undefeated oregon or usc ..

IMO the PAC 12 is so weak this year i don't see one of those teams leap frogging an undefeated Big 12 team this year. I do see where that could be a possibility though.

Dankrutka made a good point in that a one loss Georgia would likely keep an undefeated OSU out. That would mean they beat Bama in the SEC title game. They would definitely be in with undefeated Ohio State, Clemson, and One loss Alabama. This is the only scenario that i see that would keep an undefeated OSU out. This scenario isn't likely so I will revise my 100% down to 95% probability OSU gets in if undefeated.

Just to be clear, I do not think OSU will run the table this year so it is kind of a moot point, I'm just running the hypotheticals if they were to finish unbeaten.

IMO the PAC 12 is so weak this year i don't see one of those teams leap frogging an undefeated Big 12 team this year. I do see where that could be a possibility though.

Dankrutka made a good point in that a one loss Georgia would likely keep an undefeated OSU out. That would mean they beat Bama in the SEC title game. They would definitely be in with undefeated Ohio State, Clemson, and One loss Alabama. This is the only scenario that i see that would keep an undefeated OSU out. This scenario isn't likely so I will revise my 100% down to 95% probability OSU gets in if undefeated.

Just to be clear, I do not think OSU will run the table this year so it is kind of a moot point, I'm just running the hypotheticals if they were to finish unbeaten.

i would think OSU would get in above bama in that scenario .. . the only thing that might change that (and really a wild card all around) is bama losing with key player out with covid in the sec title game ..

i would think OSU would get in above bama in that scenario .. . the only thing that might change that (and really a wild card all around) is bama losing with key player out with covid in the sec title game ..

Agreed.

I also think that scenario is where the "blue blood" factor would come into play.

If that scenario played out and OU was undefeated, I don't think there is any question they would get in over a 1 loss Alabama team who had just lost in the SEC championship game. Would they keep a 1-loss Bama out for an undefeated OSU team? That is a tough one to answer.

Agreed.

I also think that scenario is where the "blue blood" factor would come into play.

If that scenario played out and OU was undefeated, I don't think there is any question they would get in over a 1 loss Alabama team who had just lost in the SEC championship game. Would they keep a 1-loss Bama out for an undefeated OSU team? That is a tough one to answer.

i agree .... and while that always helps OU (which i clearly don't hate) it is sad for the sport .. because undefeated okstate should always get in over a 1 loss team that didn't win its conf .

It is literally impossible for Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, and Ohio state state to all go undefeated. Clemson plays Notre Dame on 11/7. I’m pretty sure one of those teams will lose that game. Because they are playing against each other, on 11/7.

Fair enough. Replace Notre Dame with Oregon or USC.

And, to be clear, I didn't say OSU wouldn't be in. In fact, I said they'd be in 4/5 times. I just said there are situations where it could happen.

Let's say OSU goes undefeated this season. What are the odds that they don't make the playoff?

I do not see Cowboys going undefeated, Cowboys will lose to either Longhorns or Sooners

I do not see Cowboys going undefeated, Cowboys will lose to either Longhorns or Sooners

I ended up being right

Choke

Big 12 has been hereby eliminated from playoff contention.

Big 12 has been hereby eliminated from playoff contention.

Yup, the Big 12 sucks this year

I never ask anything of OSU. Things is why. The whole conference, and especially OU, needed them to do one thing. And they failed.

I never ask anything of OSU. Things is why. The whole conference, and especially OU, needed them to do one thing. And they failed.

they did exactly what OU needed them to do .. lose ..

they did exactly what OU needed them to do .. lose ..
Ummmm no. We needed to beat an unbeaten OSU on the 21st.

Ummmm no. We needed to beat an unbeaten OSU on the 21st.
i'm not sure i follow your reasoning.

i think the best that ou can hope for is a conference championship and a decent bowl game... the playoffs are pretty much a foregone conclusion with two losses.

ou needs to finish first or second in the big xii in order to play for the title. osu's loss makes that path a little easier. the sooners still need either ksu or isu to finish with at least three conference losses.

Ummmm no. We needed to beat an unbeaten OSU on the 21st.

no this is not remotely accurate OU to pass osu needs the same record and the tie breaker ie OU needed them to lose

You both have points. OU has zero chance of playing for the National Championship. And with OSU, ISU and KU ahead of OU in the conference standings with three games to go they need a lot of help to even make that game. So Bedlam will possibly be just for making "style" points for OU. And beating an unbeaten OSU would be better for that. Nationally an unbeaten OSU would have made Bedlam a much bigger game. Also win or lose for OU it would look better for the conference to have OSU unbeaten that far into the season and if somehow OSU pulled off the win they would be in the conversation for the playoffs. Which would help the reputation of the conference which right now is not very good.

You both have points. OU has zero chance of playing for the National Championship. And with OSU, ISU and KU ahead of OU in the conference standings with three games to go they need a lot of help to even make that game. So Bedlam will possibly be just for making "style" points for OU. And beating an unbeaten OSU would be better for that. Nationally an unbeaten OSU would have made Bedlam a much bigger game. Also win or lose for OU it would look better for the conference to have OSU unbeaten that far into the season and if somehow OSU pulled off the win they would be in the conversation for the playoffs. Which would help the reputation of the conference which right now is not very good.

OU now needs very very little help to make the big 12 title game .. (only KSU is in the way and they have a very very tough schedule remaining without their starting qb (out with injury) )

OU was the betting favorite to win the big 12 before last Saturday and they continue to be today .

Betting favorite means zip. Unless I'm missing something with 4 games left OU will have to win out. That would make OU and OSU both 7-2 if OSU wins all their other games. Then at least one of KU and ISU would have to lose 2 of their last 4 to have 3 losses each. If OU, KU and or ISU all end up 7-2 OU doesn't get in the Conf Championship game because KU and ISU beat OU.

Betting favorite means zip. Unless I'm missing something with 4 games left OU will have to win out. That would make OU and OSU both 7-2 if OSU wins all their other games. Then at least one of KU and ISU would have to lose 2 of their last 4 to have 3 losses each. If OU, KU and or ISU all end up 7-2 OU doesn't get in the Conf Championship game because KU and ISU beat OU.

OU will be in the Big 12 title game if they win out ..

Who could have guessed the OSU thread would be full of a bunch of Sooner fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4MGoVl7Q3k

Betting favorite means zip. Unless I'm missing something with 4 games left OU will have to win out. That would make OU and OSU both 7-2 if OSU wins all their other games. Then at least one of KU and ISU would have to lose 2 of their last 4 to have 3 losses each. If OU, KU and or ISU all end up 7-2 OU doesn't get in the Conf Championship game because KU and ISU beat OU.

KU is not in the consideration of having a winning season ? You must be thinking about KSU ?

KU is not in the consideration of having a winning season ? You must be thinking about KSU ?I missed typing the S. But even KSU may not have a winning season now either.

I missed typing the S. But even KSU may not have a winning season now either.

KU lost big to OU. Like 62 - 9 big.

Building O'Brate: Once only a vision, OSU's new baseball stadium finally ready to shine:
https://www.ocolly.com/sports/building-obrate-once-only-a-vision-osus-new-stadium-finally-ready-to-shine/article_70da756a-719e-11eb-b49c-57e2440944ae.html

Building O'Brate: Once only a vision, OSU's new baseball stadium finally ready to shine:
https://www.ocolly.com/sports/building-obrate-once-only-a-vision-osus-new-stadium-finally-ready-to-shine/article_70da756a-719e-11eb-b49c-57e2440944ae.html
That's a great article, thanks for sharing. Holder gets a bad rap sometimes because of the Travis Ford contract and he can come off as a jerk, but the guy is a master fundraiser. OSU has state of the art facilities in just about every single sport now thanks to him, it's incredible.

That's a great article, thanks for sharing. Holder gets a bad rap sometimes because of the Travis Ford contract and he can come off as a jerk, but the guy is a master fundraiser. OSU has state of the art facilities in just about every single sport now thanks to him, it's incredible.

Once he gets the wrestling facility done I bet he retires

Once he gets the wrestling facility done I bet he retires

That's the only facility left, right? Football and basketball are good obviously. Baseball is now done. Tennis got theirs a couple years ago. Soccer was a year or two ago. Track and field are done. Cross country got a new one a year or two ago. Equestrian is good. And Karsten is still the pinnacle for college golf courses.

That's the only facility left, right? Football and basketball are good obviously. Baseball is now done. Tennis got theirs a couple years ago. Soccer was a year or two ago. Track and field are done. Cross country got a new one a year or two ago. Equestrian is good. And Karsten is still the pinnacle for college golf courses.

Just that. I believe he said they're trying to raise $20 million lol

Bush to throw first pitch in O'Brate: https://www.ocolly.com/sports/report-bush-to-throw-first-pitch-in-obrate/article_85749dca-b1d1-11eb-94c5-23348e3597ef.html

Bush to throw first pitch in O'Brate: https://www.ocolly.com/sports/report-bush-to-throw-first-pitch-in-obrate/article_85749dca-b1d1-11eb-94c5-23348e3597ef.html

as a FYI bush and O'Brate are close which is how this came to pass. ...

really cool for OSU ..

as a FYI bush and O'Brate are close which is how this came to pass. ...

really cool for OSU ..

Bush also gave the commencement address in 2006 and his dad gave it in 1990. So they've done things at OSU for years now.

Bush also gave the commencement address in 2006 and his dad gave it in 1990. So they've done things at OSU for years now.

sure but specifically for the baseball stadium it is because he and O'Brate are long time friends ..

https://www.si.com/college/oklahomastate/olympic-sports/george-w-bush-o-brate-first-pitch

sure but specifically for the baseball stadium it is because he and O'Brate are long time friends ..

https://www.si.com/college/oklahomastate/olympic-sports/george-w-bush-o-brate-first-pitch
Yup, I'm aware.

Glad they got this rescheduled since Bush was supposed to throw out the first pitch at the grand opening last year but it was cancelled because of Covid.

Also, didn't know if it's been posted or not but OSU is allowing full capacity in the stadium for the remaining two series against Baylor and New Orleans.

ESPN announced a home-and-home for OSU and Alabama for 2028 and 2029. Alabama at OSU on 23 September 2028 and OSU at Alabama on 15 September 2029.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31589758/alabama-oklahoma-state-schedule-home-home-football-series-2028-2029