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https://newsok.com/article/5605756/dolese-moving-headquarters-out-of-automobile-alley
Dolese is moving their HQ to the 9000 Broadway project (the mixed-use development just south of American Fidelity / old OPUBCO that will also be home to Flix Brewhouse).
The existing property will be put up for sale.
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Rover 08-24-2018, 08:55 AM Tremendous development potential ala West End.
mugofbeer 08-24-2018, 10:47 AM With the Santa Fe tracks next to the property, I hope whoever buys and develops it is farsighted enough to leave room for a transit station. It would be a nice first stop on the Edmond line.
BoulderSooner 08-24-2018, 11:22 AM With the Santa Fe tracks next to the property, I hope whoever buys and develops it is farsighted enough to leave room for a transit station. It would be a nice first stop on the Edmond line.
That would be too close to the station. If you want to get there a street car stop is 2 blocks away
I read once somewhere one of those buildings originally housed the streetcars at the time? Notice how the right arch is bricked off:
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rte66man 08-25-2018, 09:47 PM I read once somewhere one of those buildings originally housed the streetcars at the time? Notice how the right arch is bricked off:
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That is correct. I need to see if they are on the National Register
rte66man 08-25-2018, 09:48 PM Pete, does Dolese own right up to the BNSF tracks? That would be very unusual.
mugofbeer 08-26-2018, 02:51 PM That would be too close to the station. If you want to get there a street car stop is 2 blocks away
I'm not sure an Edmond line would be connected to the streetcar. i would see it next to the railroad - at least while in the central part of OKC
catch22 08-27-2018, 08:41 AM I'm not sure an Edmond line would be connected to the streetcar. i would see it next to the railroad - at least while in the central part of OKC
It would likely run on the BNSF track to Santa Fe station, from there you could take the streetcar.
SoonerScot 08-27-2018, 09:42 AM That is correct. I need to see if they are on the National Register
I just checked our National Register Files and it is not a listed building.
First look at new HQ for Dolese (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=563-First-look-at-new-HQ-for-Dolese)
Dolese Bros. Co. is set to leave its sprawling long-term home just north of downtown for a new building near Britton and Broadway Extension.
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Last year, the company purchased 6.2 acres adjacent to 9000 Broadway, a new mixed-used development being lead by American Fidelity and developer Randy Hogan. American Fidelity purchased the land as part of their acquistion of the former Oklahoma Publishing Company campus in 2012.
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Documents show plans for a 2-story building designed by Butzer Architects, and an area to the north designated for future expansion.
For more than 100 years, Dolese has operated its concrete and construction firm from nearly 14 acres between NW 16th and 12th on the east side of Broadway.
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The Oklahoman first reported the company plans to sell that property to a developer.
Just to the south, Oklahoma Contemporary is building a large new facility. On the northwest corner of Broadway and 13th, a long-vacant lot is being readied for undetermined development. And on the southwest corner of that same intersection, the now-abandoned Mercedes Benz dealership will soon be home to public accounting firm HoganTaylor and other tenants as the entire site is redeveloped.
Just last month, the streetcar started operation with a stop at 11th and Broadway.
Dolese employs over 1,000 people across the state.
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Dob Hooligan 01-06-2019, 10:19 AM I spent the 1990s a block away from their downtown land. The assistant to Mr. Dolese was a church friend and mentor to me at the time. He told me that the company did not plan to develop the lots they were still accumulating at the time. Rather, Mr. Dolese felt that a large parcel with unified ownership was better for the future of the city. Remember the late 80s to mid 90s were an era of super low real estate prices downtown (if not the entire Oklahoma-Texas area).
Brett 01-06-2019, 11:27 AM I'm a bit confused with the name? Is it Dolese or Dolese Bros. If it is Dolese Bros. then the logo should be updated to reflect that and a giant "S" needs to be added to the garish "BRO" on the building in the proposed drawings.
I'm a bit confused with the name? Is it Dolese or Dolese Bros.
They use both.
ChrisHayes 01-06-2019, 11:54 AM Such a nice and HUGE prime piece of real estate to be redeveloped into something better. Hopefully can get a couple of mid rises in there
I'm a bit confused with the name? Is it Dolese or Dolese Bros. If it is Dolese Bros. then the logo should be updated to reflect that and a giant "S" needs to be added to the garish "BRO" on the building in the proposed drawings.
It's Dolese, bro.
chuck5815 01-06-2019, 03:16 PM I'm a bit confused with the name? Is it Dolese or Dolese Bros. If it is Dolese Bros. then the logo should be updated to reflect that and a giant "S" needs to be added to the garish "BRO" on the building in the proposed drawings.
Overthinking it.
mugofbeer 01-06-2019, 06:05 PM It would likely run on the BNSF track to Santa Fe station, from there you could take the streetcar.
l don't think you can run local commuter trains on a commercial track, can you? Wouldn't it have to run alongside the Santa Fe teacks? The SF tracks are far too busy.
baralheia 01-07-2019, 01:17 AM l don't think you can run local commuter trains on a commercial track, can you? Wouldn't it have to run alongside the Santa Fe teacks? The SF tracks are far too busy.
Commuter rail (Metra, TEXRail, Trinity Railway Express, etc) shares the same rails with freight - though you're right, the BNSF Red Rock Sub that cuts through OKC from north to south would very likely need capacity upgrades for freight to coexist smoothly with commuter rail. It's light rail (DART, etc) / streetcar that can't interoperate with freight rail due to FRA crashworthiness requirements.
jjjumper 01-07-2019, 08:03 AM This also coincides with Dolese closing their Downtown Edmond operations in the fall. Once demo is complete, the 3 (+/-) acres opened up will likely have a transformational effect there, too.
https://www.facebook.com/coedmond/photos/a.10151953781968777/10156917641008777/?type=3&theater
Edmond property.
Photo from City of Edmond.
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They are also building a new $4.3 million batch facility on Santa Fe near 122nd:
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mmonroe 01-07-2019, 08:51 AM The new building design reminds me of an old retro building from the 60s/70s... not really a fan of these "styles". But then again, i'm not a big fan of the CC design either. Big cement wings/fins, ages the building before it's built.
Dob Hooligan 01-07-2019, 09:16 AM Personally, I like the style. But I am old and these were cool when I was young.
It is a cement business, so I think the wings work.
Personally, I like the style. But I am old and these were cool when I was young.
Yeah, me too. A lot of people really hate the 60s and 70s designs, and want to tear them down. I think they're cool, and in 30 years people will say how terrible it is that we tore down these gems.
Ross MacLochness 01-07-2019, 02:06 PM I'm glad they included a building or two in the design of the new massive parking lot near american fidelity.... /s
OKC Guy 01-07-2019, 02:20 PM I think its cool to have diverse styles in buildings to differentiate our local culture from so many same/similar designs seen all over country. It helps to create a community to have something unique. I like it. It also fits what they do and who they are.
mmonroe 01-07-2019, 03:43 PM Yeah, me too. A lot of people really hate the 60s and 70s designs, and want to tear them down. I think they're cool, and in 30 years people will say how terrible it is that we tore down these gems.
Didn't say I hated them, or wanted them torn down.
mmonroe 01-07-2019, 03:46 PM For me, those buildings just blend into the surroundings. There is nothing innovative or creative about them to make them unique or diversified. They look like any other building designed by an older architect that stays with the same style they have done for the past 30+ years. There are already similar designs like this all over the country. Nothing unique or inspiring about that.
bombermwc 01-08-2019, 07:43 AM Bleh. But then im not a fan of the boxy modern stuff that's "cool" right now.
A rep from Dolese told the Planning Commission today that they plan to put their downtown property up for sale in 2-3 months.
rte66man 01-11-2019, 03:31 PM They are also building a new $4.3 million batch facility on Santa Fe near 122nd:
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That facility has been finished for months. They have been batching from it since they closed Edmond.
With their new HQ well underway near Broadway & Britton, they have officially put their almost 14 acres for sale just north of Auto Alley.
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ChrisHayes 06-13-2019, 07:03 AM This would be a great spot for a mixed use development like Penn Central or for an out of state company to set up shop at.
jonny d 06-13-2019, 07:04 AM You would think this would sell quickly. That is a very prime area of real estate!
It's been unofficially for sale for quite a while.
I'm sure they are asking a pretty penny.
aDark 06-13-2019, 08:33 AM http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/dolese010519a.jpg
Hey Pete, do we know anything at all about the "future development"?
Hey Pete, do we know anything at all about the "future development"?
Yes, there is a thread on that.
Core Bank (which has its financing sign on the property) is planning to build a location there along with living units.
The development group has been holding meetings with the city in hopes of obtaining TIF funds.
Ross MacLochness 06-13-2019, 09:26 AM This would be a great spot for a mixed use development like Penn Central or for an out of state company to set up shop at.
Probably not going to happen, but instead of one giant mega development, here's hoping they split that land up into about sixteen tiny parcels and sell off to different people for development.
They would have to close a few streets in order to make it one big development; would also have be substantial rezoning.
So, none of that could happen without a long public process.
Anonymous. 06-13-2019, 11:36 AM As long as it is primarily residential. I suggest they also elevate the property and have a safety/retaining wall next to the tracks with a dense tree line. Those trains blast through there and it is LOUD.
ditm4567 06-13-2019, 11:41 AM OKC's Power and Light District
Dob Hooligan 06-13-2019, 12:05 PM I used to be friends with a muckety-muck back in the 1990s. I was also living a block from there at the same time. I recall they had assembled almost all of the footprint prior to 1990. At the time they never intended to develop it themselves, but they did want any development to be a civically responsible project.
PaddyShack 06-13-2019, 01:03 PM I would like to see some dense row housing with a nice grocer and some small spaces for small eateries and shops. Mostly more for sale housing or something to get more people living around AA.
gamermp101 06-13-2019, 01:55 PM I always thought that OKC could use some high-end condos, and if you look to Little Rock Arkansas, you can see examples in their skyline. Buildings such as these would make a perfect edition to the OKC skyline, while also providing some downtown residence.
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jonny d 06-13-2019, 01:58 PM I always thought that OKC could use some high-end condos, and if you look to Little Rock Arkansas, you can see examples in their skyline. Buildings such as these would make a perfect edition to the OKC skyline, while also providing some downtown residence.
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No one here buys those though. They are trying in midtown, and having trouble selling them.
HangryHippo 06-13-2019, 02:07 PM No one here buys those though. They are trying in midtown, and having trouble selling them.
Where has Midtown tried building anything like that? I see 4 story apartment buildings, but nothing like what's in that picture.
jonny d 06-13-2019, 02:10 PM Where has Midtown tried building anything like that? I see 4 story apartment buildings, but nothing like what's in that picture.
Villa Teresa and the Rand Elliot venture near that. Aren't those all condos?
HangryHippo 06-13-2019, 02:15 PM Villa Teresa and the Rand Elliot venture near that. Aren't those all condos?
I think they will be, if they ever get built... Right now, they're nothing.
jonny d 06-13-2019, 02:36 PM I think they will be, if they ever get built... Right now, they're nothing.
Exactly. I thought I saw where a big issue, aside from the Villa Teresa owner being kinda weird, is that there are trouble pre-selling the units. But I may have read wrong.
Richard at Remax 06-13-2019, 02:44 PM Most Oklahoma Citians don't believe in buying something you can't see where you have zero opportunity to change plans like building a home.
HangryHippo 06-13-2019, 02:59 PM Exactly. I thought I saw where a big issue, aside from the Villa Teresa owner being kinda weird, is that there are trouble pre-selling the units. But I may have read wrong.
There aren't any signs that it's progressing, so you're probably right...
onthestrip 06-13-2019, 04:08 PM Yes, there is a thread on that.
Core Bank (which has its financing sign on the property) is planning to build a location there along with living units.
The development group has been holding meetings with the city in hopes of obtaining TIF funds.
So you buy empty ground and then immediately go out with your hand out for TIF money? Kind of a joke in this instance, and artificially inflates the price of real estate.
Dob Hooligan 06-13-2019, 05:35 PM So you buy empty ground and then immediately go out with your hand out for TIF money? Kind of a joke in this instance, and artificially inflates the price of real estate.
Is this what the NW13th & Broadway thread is about?
Is there any whisperings of someone being interested in this property? It's an incredible opportunity for someone to do something really cool here.
I haven't heard anything.
They are asking quite a bit so it will take a developer with deep pockets.
I noticed yesterday they now have added "will divide" on their for sale signs.
turnpup 02-17-2020, 11:51 AM Ah, so that wasn't always there. I saw the "will divide" a week or so ago and couldn't remember if it had previously said that or not.
Former Dolese property to become retail and offices (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=825-Former-Dolese-property-to-become)
After moving their offices to The Half complex at Britton and Broadway Extension, Dolese Bros. has announced the sale of three of its Automobile Alley buildings to developers who propose a mix of office and commercial space.
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Dolese also owns 9.5 acres north of NW 13th which is not a part of these recent transactions:
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Press release:
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Dolese announces sale of former headquarters property
Doles Bros. Co. recently announced the sale of its buildings and land located south of NW 13th Street, east of Broadway, the former home of the company's headquarters, to Greyhound Group, Omega Investments LLC, and Bell & McCoy Companies.
“Last year, after more than 90 years at our 13th Street location, we moved our support services functions to a new building in The Half to better serve our customers. We're pleased that, with this sale, our former headquarters will now be put to new use to further grow and develop downtown Oklahoma City.” said Kermit Frank, Vice President of Communications and Community Relations for Dolese.
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East Building
The Greyhound Group has purchased the easternmost property. The company plans to renovate the buildings as mixed-use facilities with office space and six retail tenants, including a yoga studio and Tiny Bubbles Campagne Bar.
“We're excited for this opportunity to reimagine the space in this area of town,” said Ian Duty-Dean, Director, ADEPT Commercial Real Estate. “All our retail tenants are locally-owned small businesses that we believe will add to the vibrancy already created by our neighbor, Contemporary Art Gallery. Contemporary has agreed to lease some of their parking space to us, and we're appreciative of that partnership as well.”
Duty-Dean added that they plan to have the buildings renovated and retail tenants operational by April 15, 2023. The company has hired TAP Architecture for design and Clyde Riggs as the general contractor.
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Center Building
Omega Investments purchased the middle building on the property and will house their offices there. They will renovate the building to include offices and executive suites and welcome tenants for all three floors.
“We are excited to be a part of our downtown Renaissance and growth. We expect to move our office to one of the most exciting districts of downtown, Automobile Alley,” said Nathan Cao, Founder & President of Omega Investments.
The building redevelopment will be designed by TAP Architecture and renovated by Franklin Build.
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West Building
Bell & McCoy Companies has purchased the westernmost property and will redevelop it for offices and a training facility.
The companies closed on the property on Friday, August 26th.
About ADEPT Commercial Real Estate
ADEPT is a commercial real estate company based in Oklahoma City, providing brokerage advisory, development, and property management services. ADEPT leverages its creative entrepreneurial culture and experience-engineered core to deliver client-tailored goal-critical solutions to clients and partners at every size and every stage of business evolution.
About Omega Investments, LLC
Omega Investments LLC is a local real estate investment and development company with a special focus on urban infill and multi-family development.
About Bell & McCoy Companires
Bell & McCoy Companies is a manufacturer's representative for the electrical industry. Formed in 2012, the company has grown to be one of the largest agencies in the country with 12 offices across nine states. Each company operates as an individual business unit with full teams covering the commercial, industrial and residential markets in their territory.
bucktalk 08-31-2022, 05:12 AM I hope the exterior portion of the buildings will be a beautiful transformation. I'm no architect but I can't vision how you can make the buildings have any curb appeal. Anxious to see the transformation.
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