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mugofbeer
01-27-2020, 07:37 PM
You really don't think stealing content and story lines without giving credit isnt a real violation of ethics?

Pete
03-17-2020, 09:34 AM
We made the difficult decision to suspend the printing of the Gazette.

Last week, we started to have advertisers pull their ads (nothing for them to advertise) and it quickly snowballed.

We will continue to update okgazette.com and will resume publishing the hard copy when things improve.

In the meantime, we plan to keep paying our employees but obviously, these are incredibly tough times for small businesses.

CCOKC
03-17-2020, 04:04 PM
So sorry to hear that Pete but completely understandable. I will miss getting my Gazette each Wednesday and doing the NY Times Crossword each week.
I am thinking very much about all of the small businesses owners and their employees in this time. Small business is indeed the backbone of our economy.

OKC Guy
03-17-2020, 04:11 PM
We made the difficult decision to suspend the printing of the Gazette.

Last week, we started to have advertisers pull their ads (nothing for them to advertise) and it quickly snowballed.

We will continue to update okgazette.com and will resume publishing the hard copy when things improve.

In the meantime, we plan to keep paying our employees but obviously, these are incredibly tough times for small businesses.

Sorry to hear Pete.

I wonder if it would be possible the city could make an exception to bidding process and allow you to help print posters/flyers related to the outbreak and post in city and private building entrances and inside? I know, less than .1% chance of that. But it seems some virus related flyers sponsored by city on things like precautions to take and what not.

Just throwing darts hate to see loss of income.

Edmond Hausfrau
06-12-2020, 09:49 PM
Any plans to resume publishing the hard copy, or will Oklahoma Gazette remain digital only, going forward?

Pete
06-12-2020, 10:02 PM
July 1st we’ll resume printing.

mugofbeer
06-12-2020, 10:09 PM
That's great to read. Good luck on the return!

Mr. Blue Sky
06-13-2020, 01:12 AM
Great news!

Edmond Hausfrau
06-13-2020, 08:11 AM
Where is the "like" button?!?

rte66man
06-13-2020, 09:40 AM
+1.

Have really missed my crossword puzzle :)

TheTravellers
06-24-2020, 09:55 AM
When printing resumes, it'll apparently be bi-weekly instead of weekly, according to this. :)

https://www.thelostogle.com/2020/06/23/the-gazette-is-sorry-its-bi-curious/

Pete
06-24-2020, 10:56 AM
Yes, every other week for a while; probably until after the first of the year.

gopokes88
06-24-2020, 11:27 AM
When printing resumes, it'll apparently be bi-weekly instead of weekly, according to this. :)

https://www.thelostogle.com/2020/06/23/the-gazette-is-sorry-its-bi-curious/

Never bow to the mob, the joke was funny and very clearly a joke.

Pete
06-24-2020, 11:33 AM
Never bow to the mob, the joke was funny and very clearly a joke.

What's interesting is that we had even taken the extra step to workshop the "bi-curious" thing with members of the LBGTQ community and received zero negative feedback.

But all it takes is a few very angry people online and the snowball starts to roll. We have always been incredibly supportive of that community, so felt an apology was a good way to go.

It just goes to show if you put yourself out there in any way these days, you are going to get roasted no matter what you do; at least by a vocal minority.

Along those lines, I can post the most innocuous things on OKCTalk social media (photos of construction progress or info about a new restaurant or retail place opening, for example) and you would not believe the bile that flows. I really need to start saving and posting some of the comments with the names blocked out. It is at once astonishing, sad and comical.

TheTravellers
06-24-2020, 11:57 AM
What's interesting is that we had even taken the extra step to workshop the "bi-curious" thing with members of the LBGTQ community and received zero negative feedback.

But all it takes is a few very angry people online and the snowball starts to roll. We have always been incredibly supportive of that community, so felt an apology was a good way to go.

It just goes to show if you put yourself out there in any way these days, you are going to get roasted no matter what you do; at least by a vocal minority.

Along those lines, I can post the most innocuous things on OKCTalk social media (photos of construction progress or info about a new restaurant or retail place opening, for example) and you would not believe the bile that flows. I really need to start saving and posting some of the comments with the names blocked out. It is at once astonishing, sad and comical.

Yeah, your "red" ads have always been pretty on-point and entertaining, I thought this one was witty.

Yes, please post a few of those posts if you have time, I can't imagine how anybody can get worked up over things like that, I'd like to see how my fellow Oklahomans think (but not too much, it depresses me), just bizarre....

Roger S
06-24-2020, 02:31 PM
Along those lines, I can post the most innocuous things on OKCTalk social media (photos of construction progress or info about a new restaurant or retail place opening, for example) and you would not believe the bile that flows. I really need to start saving and posting some of the comments with the names blocked out. It is at once astonishing, sad and comical.

People would argue about ice melting and paint drying on Facebook.

Thomas Vu
06-24-2020, 10:20 PM
What's interesting is that we had even taken the extra step to workshop the "bi-curious" thing with members of the LBGTQ community and received zero negative feedback.

But all it takes is a few very angry people online and the snowball starts to roll. We have always been incredibly supportive of that community, so felt an apology was a good way to go.

It just goes to show if you put yourself out there in any way these days, you are going to get roasted no matter what you do; at least by a vocal minority.

Along those lines, I can post the most innocuous things on OKCTalk social media (photos of construction progress or info about a new restaurant or retail place opening, for example) and you would not believe the bile that flows. I really need to start saving and posting some of the comments with the names blocked out. It is at once astonishing, sad and comical.

Leave the names. I'm down for public shaming. It's public and searchable anyway, isn't it?

dankrutka
06-24-2020, 11:37 PM
People would argue about ice melting and paint drying on Facebook.

Fauci is using G5 towers to profit off the ice melting and using paint drying as a distraction from Hillary and Obama murders of freedom loving people who won’t be confined by face masks!

catch22
06-24-2020, 11:50 PM
Never bow to the mob, the joke was funny and very clearly a joke.

Jeezus, People get bent out of shape too easily. Have these people ever experienced laughter?

mugofbeer
06-25-2020, 04:39 PM
What's interesting is that we had even taken the extra step to workshop the "bi-curious" thing with members of the LBGTQ community and received zero negative feedback.

But all it takes is a few very angry people online and the snowball starts to roll. We have always been incredibly supportive of that community, so felt an apology was a good way to go.

It just goes to show if you put yourself out there in any way these days, you are going to get roasted no matter what you do; at least by a vocal minority.

Along those lines, I can post the most innocuous things on OKCTalk social media (photos of construction progress or info about a new restaurant or retail place opening, for example) and you would not believe the bile that flows. I really need to start saving and posting some of the comments with the names blocked out. It is at once astonishing, sad and comical.

I think it's an excellent idea and l liked your first few entries. It just goes to show the war against political correctness and the cancel culture doesn't spare anyone.

JDSooners
06-25-2020, 10:23 PM
Does the lost ogle not play well with you? I read them both, but get more outta this message board

jerrywall
06-26-2020, 08:42 AM
Fauci is using G5 towers to profit off the ice melting and using paint drying as a distraction from Hillary and Obama murders of freedom loving people who won’t be confined by face masks!

There's got to be at least some reference to Bill Gates in this...

Executionist
07-03-2020, 07:51 PM
Leave the names. I'm down for public shaming. It's public and searchable anyway, isn't it?

An amusingly adolescent attitude, lol!

So what is your full name, social media shamer?

Executionist
07-03-2020, 08:00 PM
And what, exactly, is the purpose of shaming people on social media?

What does it accomplish, specifically?

Executionist
07-03-2020, 08:02 PM
lol!

HangryHippo
07-03-2020, 08:41 PM
May I suggest reading his username?

Thomas Vu
07-03-2020, 08:43 PM
May I suggest reading his username?

I wasn't sure if they were being sarcastic or not?

HangryHippo
07-03-2020, 09:19 PM
Um, yeah. 😆

Executionist
07-04-2020, 09:10 AM
Leave the names. I'm down for public shaming. It's public and searchable anyway, isn't it?

“Shame actually is counterproductive; shame induces in other people a defensive reaction,” said Daniel Lapsley, a professor of psychology at the University of Notre Dame. “Being shamed does not change behavior and in fact may exacerbate it.”

https://www.theintelligencer.net/news/top-headlines/2020/04/social-media-shaming-may-exacerbate-bad-habits/

Admittedly, it is entertaining to watch people engage in the Fool's Errand of trying to win an argument and change someone's mind on Social Media because they think they are morally and intellectually superior.

PaddyShack
12-04-2020, 11:42 AM
I am looking for a hard copy of last week's issue of the Ok Gazette, the Holiday issue, is there a place where one could get a copy?

Thank you in advance!

PaddyShack
12-04-2020, 11:44 AM
Also, if I am wanting more places in Yukon to carry the paper, do I need to have the store owner/manager contact the Gazette?

Pete
12-04-2020, 12:06 PM
I am looking for a hard copy of last week's issue of the Ok Gazette, the Holiday issue, is there a place where one could get a copy?

Thank you in advance!

Send me a private message with you name and address and I'll mail you one.

Once the new issue goes out, we have our drivers pick up and recycle any of the previous issue that remain.

Pete
05-26-2021, 06:39 PM
As of today, the Gazette is back in print but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer personally involved in any way. That might not be obvious because they didn't even bother to include a masthead (a first in over 40 years of publication).

It's very different than anything that came out under me or under the original publisher Bill Bleakley and I'll just leave it at that.

bucktalk
05-26-2021, 06:53 PM
As of today, the Gazette is back in print but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer personally involved in any way. That might not be obvious because they didn't even bother to include a masthead (a first in over 40 years of publication).

It's very different than anything that came out under me or under the original publisher Bill Bleakley and I'll just leave it at that.

Wishing you the best as you continue to be a reliable news source.

Pete
05-26-2021, 09:10 PM
Wishing you the best as you continue to be a reliable news source.

Thanks very much.

I'm very happy with the way things worked out and will have more time for OKCTalk.

emtefury
05-26-2021, 10:33 PM
As of today, the Gazette is back in print but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer personally involved in any way. That might not be obvious because they didn't even bother to include a masthead (a first in over 40 years of publication).

It's very different than anything that came out under me or under the original publisher Bill Bleakley and I'll just leave it at that.

Recommend updating Wikipedia as still shows you as the publisher.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Gazette

BoulderSooner
05-27-2021, 12:19 PM
Recommend updating Wikipedia as still shows you as the publisher.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Gazette

the wiki is now updated

TheTravellers
05-30-2021, 01:05 PM
As of today, the Gazette is back in print but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer personally involved in any way. That might not be obvious because they didn't even bother to include a masthead (a first in over 40 years of publication).

It's very different than anything that came out under me or under the original publisher Bill Bleakley and I'll just leave it at that.

Picked a copy up the other day, and there is actually a masthead, it's on the last page (where it's been for a while, IIRC). Maybe you were thinking of bylines, since there are none of those (except for one in the TOC for the first story). It's basically now a newsprint version of So6six - fluff stories (what few there are), lots of big pics so fewer words have to be written, just not very good or interesting...

soonerguru
05-31-2021, 04:45 PM
As of today, the Gazette is back in print but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer personally involved in any way. That might not be obvious because they didn't even bother to include a masthead (a first in over 40 years of publication).

It's very different than anything that came out under me or under the original publisher Bill Bleakley and I'll just leave it at that.

Weird. I visited the website for the first time in months and the only current article is about cannabis. Is it now a weed-only outlet?

soonerguru
05-31-2021, 04:46 PM
Picked a copy up the other day, and there is actually a masthead, it's on the last page (where it's been for a while, IIRC). Maybe you were thinking of bylines, since there are none of those (except for one in the TOC for the first story). It's basically now a newsprint version of So6six - fluff stories (what few there are), lots of big pics so fewer words have to be written, just not very good or interesting...

Gross.

mkjeeves
06-01-2021, 01:23 PM
That's a shame. I looked for a print copy at my grocer a couple of days ago and wondered if it ever go to print again.

Pete
06-08-2023, 02:50 PM
It's been announced that the Gazette is planning to stop printing. Will continue on in a digital-only format.

I'm biased of course because I owned it for a while then sold my interest to my partner because we did not see eye-to-eye, but I'm shocked it lasted this long. I know they have been losing their butt for quite a while.

They are down to 3 employees (they pay them as contractors without benefits or the associated social security and other taxes) and have been for a while.

ManAboutTown
06-09-2023, 06:32 AM
It's been announced that the Gazette is planning to stop printing. Will continue on in a digital-only format.

I'm biased of course because I owned it for a while then sold my interest to my partner because we did not see eye-to-eye, but I'm shocked it lasted this long. I know they have been losing their butt for quite a while.

They are down to 3 employees (they pay them as contractors without benefits or the associated social security and other taxes) and have been for a while.

This is sad news. I always enjoy picking up a copy of the Gazette. Print news is dying a slow death and has been for years, obviously.

TheTravellers
06-09-2023, 08:46 AM
This is sad news. I always enjoy picking up a copy of the Gazette. Print news is dying a slow death and has been for years, obviously.

Actually, it got sad after Pete sold it and the food writer (along with other good writers) left, turned into a shell of its former self - we stopped picking it up then.

barrettd
06-09-2023, 01:21 PM
For years, the only reason I've picked up a Gazette was for the crossword. It's a shame to remember what it was decades ago.

Pete
06-09-2023, 01:34 PM
For years, the only reason I've picked up a Gazette was for the crossword. It's a shame to remember what it was decades ago.

When I owned it, the two things we could not touch without inciting outrage were the crossword and horoscope.

When we had to stop printing during the pandemic we still paid for the crossword and made sure it was online every week.


More recently, those two were about the only things left.

Also, the Gazette has never had any meaningful digital traffic and there is very little engagement on their social media accounts. There was a time when we would run the same story there -- in print and online and then on social media -- and OKCTalk. And I'm not exaggerating when I say there was usually 1,000x more engagement on OKCTalk -- and that has only greatly widened over the last few years.

The Gazette never had any real digital revenue which is why we had to keep printing. So now that they aren't going to print, yes, their costs will go down but their revenue will be next to nothing.


We had a good thing going up until the pandemic hit. Actually turned a small profit in 2019 (first time in over a decade), had greatly increased the content, and seemed to be on firm ground. Then came 2020 and everything went teets up. My investor and I couldn't agree on how to come out the other side and frankly, all the Gazette was doing was robbing my time from OKCTalk which I knew had far, far more upside, so I painfully sold out.

No regrets, though. Humbly speaking, if I hadn't come along they would have been completely out of business years ago.

Pete
06-22-2023, 07:00 AM
It's official: they are no longer in print.

I'd be surprised if they are even around digitally by the end of the year.

ManAboutTown
06-22-2023, 12:35 PM
It's official: they are no longer in print.

I'd be surprised if they are even around digitally by the end of the year.

Dang. I've been picking up a copy of the Gazette for almost 40 years. Guess I'll have to find another source for my Sudoku. :(

gjl
06-22-2023, 12:48 PM
I do a minimum of 4 crossword puzzles a day and most days more. The last time I picked up a Gazette it seemed like it was mainly just advertising for medical weed dispensaries.

barrettd
06-22-2023, 01:24 PM
It's official: they are no longer in print.

I'd be surprised if they are even around digitally by the end of the year.

For a publication preaching the move to digital, their web content is not real up to date. Understandable when they were a weekly print publication, but doesn't make any sense to have a digital platform that updates once a week.

Pete
06-22-2023, 01:39 PM
For a publication preaching the move to digital, their web content is not real up to date. Understandable when they were a weekly print publication, but doesn't make any sense to have a digital platform that updates once a week.

Believe me, they have no idea how to do digital properly.

Their social media has next to zero engagement.

barrettd
06-23-2023, 06:50 AM
Believe me, they have no idea how to do digital properly.

Their social media has next to zero engagement.

I do believe you. The digital piece has been lacking for a long time, but since it was a weekly publication, it was no big deal. Plus their promotion of this move from print to digital feels desperate.

Pete
06-23-2023, 06:52 AM
^

It wasn't even weekly for the last two years. Only every other week and typically 28 pages, which is the bare minimum.

barrettd
06-23-2023, 09:17 AM
^

It wasn't even weekly for the last two years. Only every other week and typically 28 pages, which is the bare minimum.

I did not realize that. Oh, well.

ManAboutTown
06-23-2023, 10:51 AM
Where will all the weed shops advertise now?! :LolLolLol

Pete
06-28-2023, 01:04 PM
Their last print edition was May 31st and they haven't added any new content to their website since.

I suspect they are effectively out of business. I do know there was never any real revenue from digital so no way to sustain staff, even the last 3 'contractors' (full-time employees illegally reclassified as contract workers to avoid benefits and payroll taxes) that were left while printing.

Pete
08-01-2023, 02:12 PM
It's now been over 2 full months since the Gazette ceased printing and "pivoted to digital" and the only new content that has been posted in almost 9 weeks is the horoscope.

TheTravellers
08-01-2023, 02:22 PM
It's now been over 2 full months since the Gazette ceased printing and "pivoted to digital" and the only new content that has been posted in almost 9 weeks is the horoscope.

They're dead, Jim...

Pete
08-01-2023, 02:24 PM
I think they may try and milk one more "Best of" go-round but good luck with that.

Plutonic Panda
08-01-2023, 02:28 PM
Buy them out Pete. What are you waiting for!? Lol. It would be the perfect addition for a news publication for OKCTalk.