In at one state, such as Alabama, they are kicked out because they are not considered street legal.
https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2018/09/are_bird_electric_scooters_str.html?fbclid=IwAR3ey Kg9_ashDssYU-tiO2VW0XfB-PZeVU--GKwvFukaW_CiNyXpDJwqGT0

In downtown Stillwater, the Birds have about all but totally vanished, leaving a few bunches of Limes. A few days ago there were around 100 scooters down there. There are still bunches of them to the east and south of the OSU campus, such as by Sprouts and apartment complexes. Their presence may have peaked in Stillwater, especially downtown.

OSU SGA passes bill of recommendation to bring scooters back.http://www.ocolly.com/news/sga-passes-bill-of-recommendation-to-bring-scooters-back/article_d1eba8f4-d864-11e8-9282-3f2a4deb6ff4.html

I was just on OU's campus today and was running late to get back to my car before the meter expired. I jumped on a Lime and made my way across campus in just a few minutes. It was great.

Lime scooters rolling out in Tulsa: https://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagelatest/first-electric-scooters-hit-the-streets-of-tulsa/article_796d1968-777e-546f-9a73-5eb82006fed2.html

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, but there IS a learning curve to riding an electric scooter, and you CAN get injured riding them. https://qz.com/1436127/electric-scooters-wont-be-the-future-of-transport-as-long-as-there-are-idiots-like-me/

Good luck finding on after a Thunder game. The ones by the arena are gone in no time after the game. I left last night game with 20 seconds left and they were all gone by the cox center already.

Good luck finding on after a Thunder game. The ones by the arena are gone in no time after the game. I left last night game with 20 seconds left and they were all gone by the cox center already.

I actually left after the game ended with the large crowd and somehow found a Lime. But my friend couldn't find one so I ended up leaving it. But, yeah, the 30 at the arena were gone almost immediately.

I actually left after the game ended with the large crowd and somehow found a Lime. But my friend couldn't find one so I ended up leaving it. But, yeah, the 30 at the arena were gone almost immediately.

We left after the game and were able to get 2 by the Myriad to ride to the St. Lucia concert. Definitely went quickly though.

Is there a way for Lime or Bird to put more there for after the games or is it just where people leave them. Don't they have to go get them at some point to charge them?

Is there a way for Lime or Bird to put more there for after the games or is it just where people leave them. Don't they have to go get them at some point to charge them?

I could be wrong, but I believe that Birds stop running at 9 pm which doesn't work timing wise for riding after games. There were probably 40-50 Limes by the stadium, Myriad, Cox Center on Thursday which were all snatched up pretty quickly. I'm not sure how they decide how many get placed there, but I'm sure they could put more down there and they'd be used.

Bird/Lime don't place them by the stadium. They only place them in places in the morning. The reason there were a lot at the stadium is because people rode them there, including me. Not sure what time the game ended, but they did work after the game.

There were no lime bikes after the Suns game Sunday night. I didn't check Bird. I checked for them start of the 4th middle 4th and end of game. I would think it's a missed opportunity with 14,000 leaving the arena not to have any bikes around. However with traffic would they be much help to ride? Sounds like a lot of people are riding them to the game though but then are gone afterwards.

i noticed tons of people Liming around in Norman after the OU game. Seems like a nice way to beat the traffic.

In Stillwater, Birds freed for $7,135, chargers squeezed from Lime. https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/bird-scooters-freed-from-cage-lime-batteries-sour/article_28c38975-eca4-5c8c-9d19-54875647bff2.html?fbclid=IwAR3ic4n5LJoi3volHeptTdT APQFYIVypv1gpWr_BiIf27BcU-Nn2EiWhREk#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/osu-preparing-to-choose-scooter-vendor/article_6548710c-f437-11e8-8508-23e68f343c93.html

Add me to the Scooter casualty count!.. sunday was scootin all over automobile alley and Midtown. Problem is our roads are not in the best shape everywhere. with the requirement of riding on roads that makes it a bit crazy at times. we had done really well and were on our way back to the car and it had gotten dark.. I hit a substantial hole that I didn't see in the dark and BAM!!.. busted up knee and busted lip and scraped up my face pretty good and Fractured my elbow. So that's no bueno.. I will definitely go again but not after dark and will be particular about the roads I go on for sure.

New scooter policy adopted
https://newsok.com/article/5618050/scooter-regulations-promote-new-transportation-option-in-oklahoma-city

Teachers will be able to make extra money to subsidize their incomes, by picking these up and charging them over night. Their salaries are kept low so that silicon valley will get the bulk of the wealth so they can create companies that will help teachers subsidize their income.

Teachers will be able to make extra money to subsidize their incomes, by picking these up and charging them over night. Their salaries are kept low so that silicon valley will get the bulk of the wealth so they can create companies that will help teachers subsidize their income.

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ok. i like this... i'm curious what the time period they have to show the usage data to add more? is it just showing for a single day? or is that an average over a week, over two weeks?

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look at the poster... it's trolling

It's a serious point, kept light. Call it trolling if you like.

It's not Bird or Lime: https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/local_news/ready-to-roll-osu-awards-scooter-contract-to-spin/article_b7c427f2-1367-5d0f-9b81-8f9f6cf8f381.html

It's not Bird or Lime: https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/local_news/ready-to-roll-osu-awards-scooter-contract-to-spin/article_b7c427f2-1367-5d0f-9b81-8f9f6cf8f381.html

I wonder if it means Bird and/or Lime will soon leave Stillwater.

Birds are flying away for the winter:

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49132571_2351973928364754_6923851584573014016_o.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=2218232df649846e61f43dcbafb8d5a4&oe=5C92988F

So bye bye birdie?

https://newsok.com/article/5621817/scooter-company-flies-away?no_edit=1

The new business model?

https://mashable.com/article/bird-platform-scooter-rental-empire/#TMCexwsnDgqW

Bird and Lime left Stillwater over a month ago. However, Lime apparently missed at least 4 scooters. That many are still showing up on the app and needing recharged. It will be interesting to see if they come back when the weather warms up. OSU's selection of Spin as the only scooter allowed on campus didn't help.

OSU's selection of Spin as the only scooter allowed on campus didn't help.

How is Spin doing?

I think the vandalism is catching up big time to the scooter companies. There is a still-growing number of social media pages out there that are dedicated to videos of people damaging the scooters. Basically since they are so small and light. You can launch them off of bridges, into water, set them on fire, just slamming them into the ground, and even people driving over them. And of course there is no connection to the people doing the vandalism because they do it to the scooters in non-checked out form. So it requires a crazy amount of work trying to find and prosecute the vandals over scooters that cost around $200.

I think the vandalism is catching up big time to the scooter companies. There is a still-growing number of social media pages out there that are dedicated to videos of people damaging the scooters. Basically since they are so small and light. You can launch them off of bridges, into water, set them on fire, just slamming them into the ground, and even people driving over them. And of course there is no connection to the people doing the vandalism because they do it to the scooters in non-checked out form. So it requires a crazy amount of work trying to find and prosecute the vandals over scooters that cost around $200.

Just as a point of information - I'm not sure what kind of discount the scooter companies get on them, but I know retail value of the scooters that Bird and Lime deploy is 2-3x more than that. Bird primarily uses a slightly modified Xiaomi Mi M365 scooter, which typically runs about $400 new; Lime has more of a mix but most of the ones I've seen are slightly modified Segway ES4 models that typically sell for around $600 new.

All that said, I suspect you're right - vandalism has been a huge problem for the electric scooter rental industry.

How is Spin doing?

Spin is starting out sensibly with only 50 scooters.

I think the vandalism is catching up big time to the scooter companies. There is a still-growing number of social media pages out there that are dedicated to videos of people damaging the scooters. Basically since they are so small and light. You can launch them off of bridges, into water, set them on fire, just slamming them into the ground, and even people driving over them. And of course there is no connection to the people doing the vandalism because they do it to the scooters in non-checked out form. So it requires a crazy amount of work trying to find and prosecute the vandals over scooters that cost around $200.

I believe lack of interest in riding them helped do them in at least in Stillwater. At one point, seeing over 100 scooters scattered about in downtown Stillwater with nobody riding any of them was the height of ridiculous. Also tales of getting hurt with using them from broken arms, ankles and severe cuts didn't help their popularity. Such injuries can't be prevented from wearing a helmet.

Lime app now shows no LIme scooters in Stillwater.

Just as a point of information - I'm not sure what kind of discount the scooter companies get on them, but I know retail value of the scooters that Bird and Lime deploy is 2-3x more than that. Bird primarily uses a slightly modified Xiaomi Mi M365 scooter, which typically runs about $400 new; Lime has more of a mix but most of the ones I've seen are slightly modified Segway ES4 models that typically sell for around $600 new.

All that said, I suspect you're right - vandalism has been a huge problem for the electric scooter rental industry.

Yes, I was ballparking what Bird likely pays for their model of scooter. I have looked into purchasing my own as the same model and just deducted around $100+ which was my guess of what Bird pays with bulk orders etc.

I believe lack of interest in riding them helped do them in at least in Stillwater. At one point, seeing over 100 scooters scattered about in downtown Stillwater with nobody riding any of them was the height of ridiculous. Also tales of getting hurt with using them from broken arms, ankles and severe cuts didn't help their popularity. Such injuries can't be prevented from wearing a helmet.

Lime app now shows no LIme scooters in Stillwater.

In all fairness, it was a huge mistake to think that Aggies could successfully negotiate a highfalutin, new-age device such as the electric scooter. :cool:

In all fairness, it was a huge mistake to think that Aggies could successfully negotiate a highfalutin, new-age device such as the electric scooter. :cool:

Dude, seriously? It's really not funny.

Dude, seriously? It's really not funny.

Oh, puh-leeze. There's some real **** going down in the world these days, there's no reason to look THAT hard for something by which to be offended. School rivalries have been around since about a third of a second after the big bang. Go Team Hydrogen, no, go Team Helium.

Oh, puh-leeze. There's some real **** going down in the world these days, there's no reason to look THAT hard for something by which to be offended. School rivalries have been around since about a third of a second after the big bang. Go Team Hydrogen, no, go Team Helium.
^^^hahaha keep feeding him

Startup impounds discarded e-scooters

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/san-diego-startup-impounds-wayward-e-scooters-n973841

Startup impounds discarded e-scooters

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/san-diego-startup-impounds-wayward-e-scooters-n973841

Guys look like they would own a tow company.

Low lifes, IMO.

Guys look like they would own a tow company.

Low lifes, IMO.

and what is your justification for that opinion? as you deemed it relevant to bring up on this discussion.

good for these guys to try and find a need and attempt to make a business out of it... will be interesting to see if the few that aren't willing to pay, eventually do.

Am I reading that right? They are collecting scooters that are illegally parked and then charging to release them back? This sounds super sketchy and I'm curious about if there is something in the law about property being held hostage like that.

Am I reading that right? They are collecting scooters that are illegally parked and then charging to release them back? This sounds super sketchy and I'm curious about if there is something in the law about property being held hostage like that.

Illegally parked on private property. Private property being the driving force behind this service.

Illegally parked on private property. Private property being the driving force behind this service.

yep. no real different than if your car gets towed by a private business for parking there after hours, or something

Illegally parked on private property. Private property being the driving force behind this service.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I recall years ago a property owner in Bricktown tried something similar and was found to be violating the law? He was booting cars illegally parked on his parking lot and charging the vehicle owners to remove the boot. He argued it was his property and his fee was cheaper than if the driver had to pay a tow fee. That said, he had to stop doing it.

I couldn't find the local example above, but I did some Googling and found lots of similar examples.

My personal opinion: I'm against what these guys are doing.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I recall years ago a property owner in Bricktown tried something similar and was found to be violating the law? He was booting cars illegally parked on his parking lot and charging the vehicle owners to remove the boot. He argued it was his property and his fee was cheaper than if the driver had to pay a tow fee. That said, he had to stop doing it.

I couldn't find the local example above, but I did some Googling and found lots of similar examples.

My personal opinion: I'm against what these guys are doing.

i recall the situation you are mentioning... i thought that issue was because of lack of proper licenses... i might be wrong though

but i personally have no issues with it... my issue is with how the scooter companies just dropped thousands of scooters (often without permits) onto cities, and expected them to just work it all out... this isn't good business. and if private businesses don't want them on their property, then there should be a way to remove them from their property. It's the fault of the scooter companies for not making sure all of the people who use their product, know all of the rules.

I'm in the middle. If there was some provision in place for business owners to have the scooters removed through the police or whatever, then yeah, this is unnecessary. Otherwise, I'm not sure this is all that difference than business/lot owners having contracts with tow companies to haul off illegally parked vehicles. Certainly, some licensing should probably be in place, and some controls on fees, and such. But this is definitely a solution fixing a problem (although not one I've seen locally).

I'm in the middle. If there was some provision in place for business owners to have the scooters removed through the police or whatever, then yeah, this is unnecessary. Otherwise, I'm not sure this is all that difference than business/lot owners having contracts with tow companies to haul off illegally parked vehicles. Certainly, some licensing should probably be in place, and some controls on fees, and such. But this is definitely a solution fixing a problem (although not one I've seen locally).

i just don't think we have the number of them, that some places do... i was in San Fran not too long ago, and there were sections of streets where you could not walk on the sidewalks because they were just covered with hundreds of scooters, all the time

https://ridegotcha.com/

Newer, better urban scooter option in Norman; more stable, larger wider wheels, and larger deck. Rode one the other day & has a much better feel, less like a toy, more like adult-designed (if there is such a thing as an adult scooter). :D

rode one in Austin.... was doing great until the front wheel got stuck in a small pot-hole and threw
me about 10 feet... o0f! I'll ride again, it's fun. Hate the whole silicon valley warchests of venture
capital bs surrounding these things, but oh well... 15307

I went to House Of Blues in Dallas last Sunday night. There were rental scooters and bicycles everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE! They were littering the sidewalks and you had to maneuver around them. It was sad. Such a good idea gone bad.

^^^^ it’s like that here in LA. People throw them all over, into rail tracks, trash cans, etc. they fall or people kick them and block the side walks and it’s easy for me to walk around them but not those with disabilities. I used to move them or simply kick them in the street but there are so many I’d be spending too much time. I only now will move them if see someone who needs assistance.

I am starting to turn against these things if they can’t find a solution to this issue.