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Pete
07-01-2018, 08:46 AM
Sears to close Southside OKC location (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=515-Sears-to-close-Southside-OKC-location)

The last Sears department store in Oklahoma City is set to meet its demise.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sears070118a.jpg


On Friday, the company added 10 more stores to their closure list including the 160,000 square foot location at 4400 S. Western.

The move is part of a rapid contraction due flagging sales and revenue. Sears now operates 894 stores compared to 1,980 just five years ago.

The SW 44th and Western Sears store was built in 1965, includes a Sears Automotive Center and sits on 23.66 acres. To the south of the store, there is a Walmart Neighborhood Market which should not be affected.

Directly across SW 44th, Target closed in 2016 as first reported by OKCTalk (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=294-Southside-Target-to-close). A large amount of that space is being taken by AutoZone as a hub location (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=463-AutoZone-to-open-first-OK-mega-hub-in-South-OKC).

At its peak, Sears had stores at NW 23rd and Pennsylvania (closed in 1991), Quail Springs Mall (closed in 2013 and now a Von Maur) and Heritage Park Mall in Midwest City (closed in 2017).


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sears070118b.jpg


While the company still operates several scaled-down Hometown Stores across the state, soon the only two Sears department stores in Oklahoma will be in Sooner Mall in Norman and Woodland Hills Mall in Tulsa. The Norman location is of the smaller variety, at only 62,000 square feet.

Sears also announced the South OKC store would close in September.


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SoonerDave
07-01-2018, 10:36 AM
I'm wondering now if Integris is interested in that land.....had heard one reason that store endured was because Sears owned rather than leased it...kinda like the ownership issues that had bottled up the old Ward's location in Crossroads, and I think keeps the Office Depot location at I-240 and Western open....knew it was coming, just sad to see it finally happened.

Pete
07-01-2018, 10:55 AM
I have heard rumors about Itegris being interested but this property just landed on a Sears closing list that is completely unrelated to what may be happening locally.

Integris is expanding everywhere but they seem to have plenty of space already.

Probably the best outcome here is if they buy it, otherwise I fear it will soon be a giant eyesore.

SouthSide
07-01-2018, 11:26 AM
It would be a good location for a Wal-Mart supercenter and they could close the one on I-240.

SoonerDave
07-01-2018, 11:35 AM
It would be a good location for a Wal-Mart supercenter and they could close the one on I-240.

Not sure they would build a SuperCenter on top of a Neighborhood Grocery, although I suppose they could just close the grocery.

The future of the I-240 location is interesting, because I had heard stories of their original plans to kill it when the SW 104th and I-44 location went in, but supposedly some local leaders were asked to reach out to WalMart and ask them to reconsider, which they did - for a time, at least. They won't keep it open indefinitely, obviously.

Not exactly related, but at least a tangential notion to the I-44 Wal Mart is the fact that there are rumblings Lowe's has been looking in that area as well. Purely rumor, but if true, it might call into question the future of the location across from that same I-240 WalMart SuperCenter. If Lowe's and WM both left that corner.....wow...

Pete
07-01-2018, 11:37 AM
Walmart just did some upgrades to that Neighborhood Market.

bluedogok
07-01-2018, 12:02 PM
I'm wondering now if Integris is interested in that land.....had heard one reason that store endured was because Sears owned rather than leased it...kinda like the ownership issues that had bottled up the old Ward's location in Crossroads, and I think keeps the Office Depot location at I-240 and Western open....knew it was coming, just sad to see it finally happened.
Sears owned most of the old store locations including anchor stores in malls. K-Mart is much more of a mix of owned and leased spaces than Sears was. Selling off properties is how they have been able to survive. They own the building in Cherry Creek North here in Denver, that is prime property right now with sky high sale prices for retail and condo development.

stile99
07-01-2018, 12:11 PM
The Sword of Damocles falls at last.

Considering the area I'm guessing Costco is out of the question, but a man can dream.

Hondo1
07-02-2018, 09:35 PM
Gawked with about a hundred others to see James Bond's Austin Martin there around 1966.

guyssocialweb
07-02-2018, 11:41 PM
Do we know if the Auto center will close also. It seems to do a lot of business. If someone invested in that if it did close i think it would be a prime location.

Uptowner
07-03-2018, 01:18 AM
Just bought some non craftsman branded tools there in June. The off-brand had better castings and internals. Pretty sad.

Urbanized
07-03-2018, 08:45 AM
^^^^^^^^
Not even sure that Craftsman is a Sears-connected brand anymore. It’s defintely not EXCLUSIVE to Sears. You can buy it at Ace, Fastenal, Lowe’s, Atwoods and other places.

jedicurt
07-03-2018, 08:52 AM
^^^^^^^^
Not even sure that Craftsman is a Sears-connected brand anymore. It’s defintely not EXCLUSIVE to Sears. You can buy it at Ace, Fastenal, Lowe’s, Atwoods and other places.

Stanley Black and Decker bought the Craftsman line in March of 2017

Urbanized
07-03-2018, 08:54 AM
Ah, makes sense. That said you’ve been able to buy it at some of those other places for a decade or so at least.

rezman
07-03-2018, 09:31 AM
Ace has been carrying Craftsman for some years now. Since before Sears sold off the brand. Lowes has only recently started carrying the brand. Craftsman lower line rachets in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 drive have been junk for years.

I bought some of the Craftsman Evolve brand 3/8 drive allen socket sets a few years back for work and I still have them. They are much better quality than the regular Craftsman 3/8 drive allen sockets, which are also junk.

I also have a set of Mac allen sockets that I love. They have replaceable allens for when you snap one off.:)

SoonerDave
07-03-2018, 11:02 AM
I've been pleasantly surprised by the Kobalt line of tools from Lowe's. Much sturdier and serviceable than I expected.

jedicurt
07-03-2018, 01:35 PM
I've been pleasantly surprised by the Kobalt line of tools from Lowe's. Much sturdier and serviceable than I expected.

agreed. but like with any brand, you get what you pay for. the cheapest version of Kobalt products, I haven't been happy with, I spend a bit more and I am very happy with them. Same as it sounds with someone aboves experience with Craftsman, the cheap line is cheap, better lines cost a bit more

d-usa
07-03-2018, 02:03 PM
i'm a believer of the whole "buy your tools on the cheap, and if you use it enough to break it buy an expensive and higher quality replacement". Unless you are talking about something that your life depends on (like a jack stand maybe), there isn't that much use in breaking the bank for a tool that you barely ever use.

rezman
07-03-2018, 03:16 PM
^ Having worked with my hands and tools most of my life, I can agree with this, .... to an extent.

I have a mixture of Craftsman, Mac and Snap On, hand tools and even a set of Taiwan Tatools brand thin combo wrenches in my roll cab at work that have served me well.

I have mostly Craftsman at home as they serve me well there,... again, except for the rachets.

Both my work and home Craftsman sets I purchased at the Sears that used to be at 23rd & Penn and are all stamped Craftsman USA. The ratchets in all 3 drive sizes I’ve replaced at least once, as well as some of the screw drivers.

My wife has some cheapo tools, of the Harbor Freight variety, that she keeps for her use around the house for her projects, and it drives me nuts if I have to use them. I’ll offen put them down and go get mine.

At my job, the people that buy the Harbor Freight hand tools usually don’t have them very long. They’re starter tools at best and wind up in the trash.

On the other hand, we’ve had a couple guys at work buy nothing but Snap On... box, tools, everything. They put themselves in serious debt and it didn’t make them any better mechanically.

catch22
07-03-2018, 10:33 PM
I’ll definitely spend extra money on anything that ratchets. The cheap ratcheting tools don’t have a lot of teeth on the gears, but the more expensive ones have a lot of teeth, you can be in a tight spot and still get enough ratcheting action that you can’t get with a cheaper tool.

Wrenches and screwdrivers - I buy the cheap ones.

SoonerDave
07-04-2018, 10:59 AM
I remember when Craftsman first started going into the toilet - I had a broken, relatively old (well, not *that* old, but old enough) ratchet, and it simply stripped out. So down I go to Ace not very long after they started carrying them to get my replacement, and the only choice was this awful version that OOZED plastic from every corner. I think even the interior gearing was plastic judging from the sound of the click-stops. Mind you, I'm not mechanic or big-time expert, just a DIY'er, so I surely don't put my tools through as much abuse as one who is, but if I can tell when the Crafstman line went south, I can only imagine when "real" mech types realized it. Sad thing is, same thing apparently happened to their power tools as well...OTOH, I"ve heard of people who go to estate and garage sales, and find old-school Craftsman cabinet, table, and radial arm saws going for next-to-nothing, and THOSE guys are among the generation designed to stinking last forever....

bluedogok
07-04-2018, 03:11 PM
My Craftsman ratchet and socket set is more than 30 years old, still works great. I bought a Craftsman 3/8" drive click torque wrench in 2004, it failed about a year later. I have my father old Craftsman belt sander, probably 45 years old. Most of what I have bought from Sears since 2000 has been disappointing. I have some Harbor Freight tools, mostly for a specific task. I bought a 3/4" drive set for the 19mm & 46mm socket to remove the rear wheel nut. I bought it on sale for $35.00, I found a 46mm 1/2" socket by itself for $32.00. For as little as I used it that was a no brainer.

Pete
08-13-2018, 09:58 AM
Massive VASA Fitness to bring new life to old Sears property (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=535-Massive-VASA-Fitness-to-bring-new-life-to-old-Sears-property)


As the Sears at SW 44th and Western nears its final closure date, plans have emerged to redevelop the property and add a large new fitness center.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/vasa1.jpg


Based in Utah, VASA Fitness now has 26 locations in that state as well as Colorado, Kansas and a new location is set to open soon in Tulsa. Typical amenities include and indoor lap pool, aerobics / group exercise and spin classes, a basketball court, free weight area, hot tub hyrdro-massage, raquetball courts, steam and sauna, tanning and childcare facilities.


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Based on plans by the owner of the entire property (which is independent from Sears), VASA would be located to the north and the front half of the Sears building would be razed with the remainder split into smaller retail bays.

Similarly, the Sears Automotive Center at the corner would be remodeled into a retail strip center and pad sites will be added for satellite buildings.


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The Sears closing follows the shuttering of the Target directly to the south. However, the Target property is already being redeveloped with a large AutoZone distribution center (http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=43973) under construction and Dollar already open in part of that space.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/autozone081118c.jpg


The 160,000 square foot Sears store was built in 1965, includes and sits on 23.66 acres. It it set to close in September and is currently running a clearance sale.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sears081118.jpg


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seaofchange
08-13-2018, 11:57 AM
This facility might make me leave Fitness One. The pricing looks awesome - Tulsa location will be $19.99 a month for the package that includes everything but the team training classes.

Maybe this will get places like Golds gym to reconsider their pricing.

ChrisHayes
08-13-2018, 11:59 AM
I've never heard of VASA Fitness, but it looks like a cool setup. Plus, they're far more affordable than other national fitness chains such as Golds Gym. I'm glad to see the property already about to be redeveloped. I was afraid it would sit empty for years on end because of it's location. But it looks like they've got some pretty good plans for it.

Bobby821
08-13-2018, 12:04 PM
It is sad to see the current Sears builing be changed from what it currently is. I grew up going to this Sears store and would prefer it just be preserved as is.

SoonerDave
08-13-2018, 12:21 PM
It is sad to see the current Sears builing be changed from what it currently is. I grew up going to this Sears store and would prefer it just be preserved as is.

What would be the point in preserving an empty, decaying, unused building?

Bobby821
08-13-2018, 12:34 PM
What would be the point in preserving an empty, decaying, unused building?

Maybe restore the sign to the original red cursive sign and fix up the building and maybe make it a Sears museum or something like that.

GoThunder
08-13-2018, 12:49 PM
Maybe restore the sign to the original red cursive sign and fix up the building and maybe make it a Sears museum or something like that.
And who would pay for this? The company itself, which is closing stores left and right and about to go bankrupt?

Bobby821
08-13-2018, 12:54 PM
And who would pay for this? The company itself, which is closing stores left and right and about to go bankrupt?

No A preservation group. I would if I had the money to.

SoonerDave
08-13-2018, 01:20 PM
I used to love how that building looked lit up at Christmas....

Bobby821
08-13-2018, 01:24 PM
I used to love how that building looked lit up at Christmas....

Yeah, I had forgotten about how it looked at Christmas.

jompster
08-13-2018, 02:07 PM
Nostalgia is a fun thing, but in this case it's probably best to see a little progress in this area versus keeping a dying dinosaur on life support.

Uptowner
08-13-2018, 03:19 PM
Forget cancer and hungry children’s. Let’s build a sears museum.

jedicurt
08-13-2018, 03:23 PM
Forget cancer and hungry children’s. Let’s build a sears museum.

depends... will you include Roebuck?

Uptowner
08-13-2018, 03:31 PM
And craftsman, with meticulously recreated replicas of 1950’s riding lawnmowers and diy gadgets.

In all seriousness. My grandmother, who never threw anything printed away, had this massive library of sears Roebuck catalogues with the most bewildering “devices” I remember you could buy boats, and even houses.

baralheia
08-13-2018, 04:06 PM
As sad as I am to see Sears close up shop here, I'm actually super excited for VASA Fitness. They offer a LOT of amenities for not a lot of money and this facility wouldn't be very far from the house at all.

Pete
08-13-2018, 04:07 PM
This is a good outcome considering Sears closes next month and there is a ton of property here.

I've been very fearful this would just turn into a massive bingo hall or something equally awful.

baralheia
08-13-2018, 04:28 PM
This is a good outcome considering Sears closes next month and there is a ton of property here.

I've been very fearful this would just turn into a massive bingo hall or something equally awful.

I had similar fears, especially with how long Target across the street sat vacant before inking deals with Autozone and Dollar Tree. It still remains to be seen what happens to the old Sears building, as well as the multiple outparcel sites, but with the property owner being this on the ball about attracting VASA, I'm not overly concerned. That said, though, I am quite disappointed that the plan for the former Sears is to cut the building back and remove the existing, distinctive facade... True, it probably will do more to "right-size" the building for success, but I will be sad to see a Southside icon with that retro mid-century charm yield to yet another row of modern looking (but generic) storefronts. At least the refreshed facade should look pretty nice.

kukblue1
08-13-2018, 08:30 PM
People are crazy. I went Sunday about 1pm 8-12 and it was busy. Check out lane at time was 10 deep with 4 cashiers working. They problem was everything was so jacked up in price that even at 50% off you were not getting a deal. However these people in there were acting like it was the best deal on earth. Lee jeans $19 after 1/2. I can get them on Amazon or just about anywhere for the same price. They had tv trays that i do need $69.99 I'll buy the 5 piece set at Walmart for $39.99. Might not be a good but it's a tv tray i don't need it to do much.

SoonerDave
08-14-2018, 12:37 PM
People are crazy. I went Sunday about 1pm 8-12 and it was busy. Check out lane at time was 10 deep with 4 cashiers working. They problem was everything was so jacked up in price that even at 50% off you were not getting a deal. However these people in there were acting like it was the best deal on earth. Lee jeans $19 after 1/2. I can get them on Amazon or just about anywhere for the same price. They had tv trays that i do need $69.99 I'll buy the 5 piece set at Walmart for $39.99. Might not be a good but it's a tv tray i don't need it to do much.

Yeah once the liquidators move in there are rarely any good deals left. Or the good stuff has been moved elsewhere.

kukblue1
10-01-2018, 11:08 AM
Has it officially closed yet?

Pete
10-01-2018, 11:10 AM
Has it officially closed yet?

I believe yesterday was the last day.

Pete
10-01-2018, 01:00 PM
Yes, yesterday was the end and today they are already taking down the signs.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/sears100118.jpg

Brett
06-03-2022, 08:59 PM
I noticed there is work being done on the old Sears automotive center. There was a roll off dumpster, temporary chain link fencing surrounding the location and plastic or vinyl tarps draped over the building itself.

SouthSide
06-03-2022, 10:51 PM
The city records show permits for a 7-11 at 4400 S. Western. I believe this would be the automotive center.

Pete
06-04-2022, 07:02 AM
The city records show permits for a 7-11 at 4400 S. Western. I believe this would be the automotive center.

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amocore
11-15-2022, 09:01 AM
The automotive center is being torn down today.

Bobby821
11-15-2022, 10:05 AM
The automotive center is being torn down today.

Did you drive by and see it being torn down or did you read about it somewhere?

amocore
11-15-2022, 10:11 AM
I saw it on my way to work this morning. It probably started yesterday as it is just a big pile of rubble.

Bobby821
11-15-2022, 10:15 AM
I saw it on my way to work this morning. It probably started yesterday as it is just a big pile of rubble.

Thanks, It is sad to see this building being torn down. I used to go there with my grandpa to buy batteries for the cars and have work done on them occasionally.

SoonerDave
04-28-2023, 07:14 AM
This old Sears building was supposed to go up for auction earlier this week. Any word on whether it actually sold?

Pete
04-28-2023, 08:11 AM
This old Sears building was supposed to go up for auction earlier this week. Any word on whether it actually sold?

County Assessor still shows the same owner.

Pete
04-16-2024, 04:20 PM
There will be a new Starbucks along Western, to the north of the newish 7-11.

Work has started.

BG918
04-16-2024, 04:34 PM
This old Sears building was supposed to go up for auction earlier this week. Any word on whether it actually sold?

It's going to be converted into self-storage

Pete
06-03-2024, 10:45 AM
Starbuck's planning a location on this site:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/starbucks060324a.jpg

baralheia
06-05-2024, 06:23 PM
Will this be freestanding or inside the Sears building?

Pete
06-05-2024, 06:25 PM
Will this be freestanding or inside the Sears building?

Freestanding I believe.

baralheia
06-05-2024, 06:33 PM
Freestanding I believe.

Thanks, Pete! I figured that was the case, but the possibility had me wondering if they were going to finally do something with the old Sears building.

Pete
06-05-2024, 06:50 PM
Thanks, Pete! I figured that was the case, but the possibility had me wondering if they were going to finally do something with the old Sears building.

My understanding is that it will become storage.