Looks cool, but not sure I want to hang at a place that has a big neon sign declaring Glam AF, lol...

Looks cool, but not sure I want to hang at a place that has a big neon sign declaring Glam AF, lol...

Agreed. But I get it. Probably an instagram opportunity for the patrons.

Other than that, the place looks great.

Yes, you have to have an Instagram wall.

It's a sure way of people posting and promoting your place. It's very smart.

It’s gorgeous. Will be interesting to see if it can sustain the dining aspect of its business - it’s definitely still off the beaten path - and not have to rely too heavily on the clearly designed-for nightclub space. Nightclub money is easy, and tempting. Especially if everyday business is lackluster. If that portion of the business becomes the tail that wags the dog it could be problematic. I’m not familiar with the operator here, but that will be the deciding factor on how this goes.

It's a group that has done a lot in Dallas, although they are from OKC.

It's in no way affiliated with the handful of local operators that rely on shady promoters to draw in a big but rough crowd.


It's unlike anything else in OKC. The only thing in the ballpark would be The Jones and I know they aspire to attract the same type of crowd.

Fingers crossed that they are fully prepared to weather the ups AND the downs. Both can be challenging in the urban core, especially when a bit physically disconnected from the other activity.

Fingers crossed that they are fully prepared to weather the ups AND the downs. Both can be challenging in the urban core, especially when a bit physically disconnected from the other activity.

So far their social team is doing a great job of reaching out. I live within walking distance of this place and hope that you are right. It will be interesting to see the dynamic of the Flea crowd and this crowd. I will definitely be brutally honest with them if I think it doesn't work.

Yes, you have to have an Instagram wall.

It's a sure way of people posting and promoting your place. It's very smart.

Yup, very smart.

In the next year or two, there will be another large apartment complex wrapping around this place. The construction could hinder it a bit at first, but it will add a bunch of new residences next door.

In the next year or two, there will be another large apartment complex wrapping around this place. The construction could hinder it a bit at first, but it will add a bunch of new residences next door.

If they can hang on that long. They will be wise to market as a destination without regard to their apartment neighbors. Not necessarily the crowd they seek per se.

Looks cool, but not sure I want to hang at a place that has a big neon sign declaring Glam AF, lol...

Haha. I would guess you’re not in their target market. That wall is grammable AF bro!!!

$29 lobster soft tacos and $49 filets don't seem to mesh with an Instagram Wall, but maybe that is just me.

Other than that it looks pretty nice but I can see this going south pretty quick.

pete was right, this is... ambitious

$29 lobster soft tacos and $49 filets don't seem to mesh with an Instagram Wall, but maybe that is just me.

Other than that it looks pretty nice but I can see this going south pretty quick.

anything can go south quickly in this town, but those prices will actually bring in a Culprits-type crowd. Never underestimate the power of women and their Instagram buddies. They will be at this place often.

$29 lobster soft tacos and $49 filets don't seem to mesh with an Instagram Wall, but maybe that is just me.

Other than that it looks pretty nice but I can see this going south pretty quick.

Sure it does…it goes something like: “Let’s go eat at the most expensive/exclusive night club in the city and take a picture!!! it’s so pretty! Oh look at that wall, it’s funny AF…take a pic of me making a duck face in this funny hat! Tag me!”

Gag me lol…but it will be popular. I hate social media “influencing” lol but this place looks really cool and is going to do very well even if I have “Let me take a selfie” by the Chainsmokers blaring in my head on repeat every time I go there.

Haha. I would guess you’re not in their target market. That wall is grammable AF bro!!!

Yeah, when I saw that I knew I definitely wasn't in their target demographic. No social media for me, I prefer to actually live my life in reality...

Sure it does…it goes something like: “Let’s go eat at the most expensive/exclusive night club in the city and take a picture!!! it’s so pretty! Oh look at that wall, it’s funny AF…take a pic of me making a duck face in this funny hat! Tag me!”

Gag me lol…but it will be popular. I hate social media “influencing” lol but this place looks really cool and is going to do very well even if I have “Let me take a selfie” by the Chainsmokers blaring in my head on repeat every time I go there.

The Jones has proven that Insta-worthy backdrops can work very well with upscale dining and nightlife.

City + State is similar as well.


BTW, that sign is in a hallway near the restrooms. And every time someone takes a photo and posts it, that is free publicity to the cohorts (and target market) of their friends and followers.

Even places like Boomtown Creamery have similar walls for the same reason.

Yeah, when I saw that I knew I definitely wasn't in their target demographic. No social media for me, I prefer to actually live my life in reality...

It’s not challenging at all to use social media and live in reality.

It’s not challenging at all to use social media and live in reality.

Didn't say it was challenging, just that I have no use for it, except to check FB to see what a restaurant's or coffee place's current specials of the month are, that's about it. I have other time-sucks that don't leave room for IG, FB, Twitter, TikTok, .....

The Jones has proven that Insta-worthy backdrops can work very well with upscale dining and nightlife.

City + State is similar as well.


BTW, that sign is in a hallway near the restrooms. And every time someone takes a photo and posts it, that is free publicity to the cohorts (and target market) of their friends and followers.

Even places like Boomtown Creamery have similar walls for the same reason.

I’ve seen the one at golden hour and Up Down Arcade posted all over the place as well (though that’s a departure from upscale dining, definitely goes to show it’s a good idea).

Didn't realize they put it by the bathrooms where people inevitably will be waiting inline. Pretty easy way to ensure people use it.

If anyone actually goes to the space and looks around, you'll be very impressed with the quality and attention to detail.

This isn't like Kong's or Sunset... They spent a lot of money and it shows.

The best comparisons would be The Jones and City + State, which is saying something.


Their A/V is state of the art. Each space has multiple large video arrays and the sound systems are high-end.

It seems many are having a hard time understanding this place because there is nothing else like it in OKC. Hopefully, that works to their advantage.

The whole setup really impressed me and that doesn't happen very often.

Didn't say it was challenging, just that I have no use for it, except to check FB to see what a restaurant's or coffee place's current specials of the month are, that's about it. I have other time-sucks that don't leave room for IG, FB, Twitter, TikTok, .....

Not using social media doesn’t bother me, I only use IG and that’s just to follow architecture/interior design/engineering pages but just in the context of Glamour having an Instagram wall, that particular point in your comment stood out.

I don’t think there’s much wiggle room when you say “no social media for me, I prefer to actually live my life in reality” to imply anything besides living real life and using social media outside necessity are at odds or that people using social media aren’t reality inclined.

I know this is getting unnecessarily off topic and what you said is pretty standard, so I’ll leave it at that.

Didn't say it was challenging, just that I have no use for it, except to check FB to see what a restaurant's or coffee place's current specials of the month are, that's about it. I have other time-sucks that don't leave room for IG, FB, Twitter, TikTok, .....

Wow. You are so much cooler than anyone on this forum. Congrats for being so much cooler than anyone else. You must live an amazing life being so much cooler than everyone you know. Congrats again on being so much cooler than everyone.

Didn't say it was challenging, just that I have no use for it, except to check FB to see what a restaurant's or coffee place's current specials of the month are, that's about it. I have other time-sucks that don't leave room for IG, FB, Twitter, TikTok, .....

Good for you. I hate what social media has done to our society. Unfortunately it’s not going anywhere and businesses that don’t you use it to their advantage are left behind.

Wow. You are so much cooler than anyone on this forum. Congrats for being so much cooler than anyone else. You must live an amazing life being so much cooler than everyone you know. Congrats again on being so much cooler than everyone.

Because I actually read books, watch TV and films instead of screwing around with social media, that makes me cooler than everybody else? Cool...

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Because I actually read books, watch TV and films instead of screwing around with social media, that makes me cooler than everybody else? Cool...

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Hang on...you mean, being social on a website with public access, cool photos, and advertising in exchange for $ and posts DOESN'T count as social media??
**deletes OKCTalk.com account**

Hang on...you mean, being social on a website with public access, cool photos, and advertising in exchange for $ and posts DOESN'T count as social media??
**deletes OKCTalk.com account**

Actually, it doesn't count for me. FB, IG, TikTok, etc. are what I (and most likely a huge majority of people) consider social media.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Wow. You are so much cooler than anyone on this forum. Congrats for being so much cooler than anyone else. You must live an amazing life being so much cooler than everyone you know. Congrats again on being so much cooler than everyone.

You’re actually the coolest one on here. Based on how much you preface things with your world travels, you must be the one living an amazing life. Congrats on being so cultured and better than everyone.

I will suggest sound deadening panels in that dining room. The place turned out great! Also I was not expecting that menu at all. The dining concept here is extremely ambitious, as many here have commented.

I think this place will be successful on the entertainment/club side. Golden Hour in the WV District is similar in the vibes department, the big difference here is Glamour has a local king promotor at the helm. I predict this will be pulling some great smaller-venue shows.

I think this place will be successful on the entertainment/club side. Golden Hour in the WV District is similar in the vibes department, the big difference here is Glamour has a local king promotor at the helm. I predict this will be pulling some great smaller-venue shows.

Having been in both, I don't think that's at all a fair comparison.

Golden Hour doesn't serve any food and only opens late and for a few nights a week. It's more like a Bricktown club. Plus, the level of finishes and attention to detail is more along the lines you see in Bricktown.

I think the best comparison is the Jones, although nothing in town is that big.

anything can go south quickly in this town, but those prices will actually bring in a Culprits-type crowd. Never underestimate the power of women and their Instagram buddies. They will be at this place often.

I was at the VIP evening and it was a pretty fun night. Everyone was taking photos and tagging Glamour in their posts. I received a ton of inquiries into the place from others who haven't been there. They have done a great job with this marketing strategy. I don't think it is a place for me unless a good comic comes to do a show there. I do think the clientele they are seeking will love this place and it will do great in this area.

I was at the VIP evening and it was a pretty fun night. Everyone was taking photos and tagging Glamour in their posts. I received a ton of inquiries into the place from others who haven't been there. They have done a great job with this marketing strategy. I don't think it is a place for me unless a good comic comes to do a show there. I do think the clientele they are seeking will love this place and it will do great in this area.

Was anyone too horrified by the "Glam AF" sign to finish eating their expensive food?

Was anyone too horrified by the "Glam AF" sign to finish eating their expensive food?

It was just hors d'oeuvres and a free cocktail. Most ended up in front of it because it is strategically placed in front of the bathrooms. LOL

I was at the VIP evening and it was a pretty fun night. Everyone was taking photos and tagging Glamour in their posts. I received a ton of inquiries into the place from others who haven't been there. They have done a great job with this marketing strategy. I don't think it is a place for me unless a good comic comes to do a show there. I do think the clientele they are seeking will love this place and it will do great in this area.

i think there will be much more overlap in the crowd of this place and places like La Brasa / Kongs ect then many on this board thing

i think there will be much more overlap in the crowd of this place and places like La Brasa / Kongs ect then many on this board thing

It's not like they are going to manufacture new people who like to go out in OKC.

Not all the people that go to those places are bad apples. I actually had fun at Kong's before they started using shady promoters.

They are aiming more for the Jones and City + State crowd and like those two places, they are not selling cheap food and drinks.

Time will tell of course but this place is a million times nicer than Kong's or La Brasa and that counts for a lot.

What’s wrong with La Brasa? One of my favorite restaurants in OKC. Always felt it was a fun vibe and I never felt, in any way, unsafe/uncomfortable there.

What’s wrong with La Brasa? One of my favorite restaurants in OKC. Always felt it was a fun vibe and I never felt, in any way, unsafe/uncomfortable there.

It's a completely different crowd late on the weekends.

Curious who the promoter is. Exciting if this leads to some high-quality bookings.

One thing that only night owls probably know is that even Jones was a ****show for a while shortly after it opened; the restrooms upstairs were occasionally vomitoriums, stuff got torn up, neighborhood had traffic and law enforcement issues, sometimes felt like a slightly dangerous frat party.

Places get hot, the party people take over. It’s also easy for places to see what the easy money looks like and get tempted down the path of trying for it and catering to it. Sometimes it’s easy to just go along for the ride when it appears. How a place weathers that initial popularity storm tells a lot about the ownership/operators.

In the case of Jones, they held firm to their vision.Helped immensely that money is not an issue or even the primary driving factor behind Jones, so they didn’t need to lunge at easy money. Hopefully this operator does the same.

One thing that only night owls probably know is that even Jones was a ****show for a while shortly after it opened; the restrooms upstairs were occasionally vomitoriums, stuff got torn up, neighborhood had traffic and law enforcement issues, sometimes felt like a slightly dangerous frat party.

Places get hot, the party people take over. It’s also easy for places to see what the easy money looks like and get tempted down the path of trying for it and catering to it. Sometimes it’s easy to just go along for the ride when it appears. How a place weathers that initial popularity storm tells a lot about the ownership/operators.

In the case of Jones, they held firm to their vision.Helped immensely that money is not an issue or even the primary driving factor behind Jones, so they didn’t need to lunge at easy money. Hopefully this operator does the same.

all of this !!

One thing that only night owls probably know is that even Jones was a ****show for a while shortly after it opened; the restrooms upstairs were occasionally vomitoriums, stuff got torn up, neighborhood had traffic and law enforcement issues, sometimes felt like a slightly dangerous frat party.

Places get hot, the party people take over. It’s also easy for places to see what the easy money looks like and get tempted down the path of trying for it and catering to it. Sometimes it’s easy to just go along for the ride when it appears. How a place weathers that initial popularity storm tells a lot about the ownership/operators.

In the case of Jones, they held firm to their vision.Helped immensely that money is not an issue or even the primary driving factor behind Jones, so they didn’t need to lunge at easy money. Hopefully this operator does the same.

No doubt the Jones even still gets crazy late on some nights but that is a completely different crowd than Kongs/Sunset/Pink Parrot(RIP)/and some of the other bricktown clubs. Especially the first few years after it opened and occasionally today, my friends and I often closed the Jones down but we've never felt unsafe there (as opposed to every woman I know who's walked into Kongs late at night saying they felt instantly unsafe and never went back).

The Jones late night crowd can't handle their alcohol sometimes but for the most part aren't starting fights and definitely aren't shooting at each other. What's the difference? Are the other bars' promotors really seeking out the trash human beings who do that kind of stuff to be patrons at those bars? Definitely prefer the people throwing up all over themselves over the ones at Kongs/Sunset if I have to choose lol.

Curious who the promoter is. Exciting if this leads to some high-quality bookings.

By the looks of it, I would assume it would lean towards DJs, but Pete's write-up does say live music and comics, as well, so it'll be interesting to see what the mix of talent they book will be.

Do we know what the capacity for shows is?

Remember, there are 3 completely separate rooms, each with its own bar.

The main room with the tables and booths will see the tables removed as the night goes on and there is a DJ booth in the corner.

The 2nd space (Vanity) is more chill and has a large U-shaped bar. If there is a DJ it will be someone like Kora Waves; more laid-back.

The 3rd room (Vinyl) is the one with the large stage. That's where they'll have occasional live music, hi-energy DJ's and periodic comedy.


All have great sound and video systems.

Remember, there are 3 completely separate rooms, each with its own bar.

The main room with the tables and booths will see the tables removed as the night goes on and there is a DJ booth in the corner.

The 2nd space (Vanity) is more chill and has a large U-shaped bar. If there is a DJ it will be someone like Kora Waves; more laid-back.

The 3rd room (Vinyl) is the one with the large stage. That's where they'll have occasional live music, hi-energy DJ's and periodic comedy.


All have great sound and video systems.

I forgot that there are three rooms.

If anything, I think it will be interesting to see how they navigate the multi-concept approach. Not always an easy thing to pull off. It does look amazing, though, and can't wait to check it out.

Thinking about this more, it seems the Film Row / West Downtown scene is plenty lively but largely devoid of the shooty/stabby drama.

Not only Jones, but Golden Hour has been going for years and I've never heard of an incident there. Pour was the opposite; they used the same promoters as Kong's and Sunset but thankfully it flamed out pretty quickly.

Flashback is packed on Fridays and Saturdays with a DJ and they have been careful to cultivate the right kind of crowd. I'm been in there many times quite late and it's always fun.

Sun Cattle has a strong bar scene as does OK Cider, the Library, Core 4, and Bar Arbolada. Farther west, Fair Weather Friend, Beer City and Flycatcher have strong business but nothing crazy. Farmer's Market has two of the best bars in town: Power House and Palo Santo.

Nearby Glamour, The Flea has found its audience and I've always liked it there.


So, there is ample evidence to suggest that Glamour can build on all this.

The two proprietors are from OKC but have done several things in Dallas; they aren't club kids and they have made not only a huge investment but spent a lot of time on the details.

I prefer to be optimistic about them.

No doubt the Jones even still gets crazy late on some nights but that is a completely different crowd than Kongs/Sunset/Pink Parrot(RIP)/and some of the other bricktown clubs. Especially the first few years after it opened and occasionally today, my friends and I often closed the Jones down but we've never felt unsafe there (as opposed to every woman I know who's walked into Kongs late at night saying they felt instantly unsafe and never went back)...
DEFINITELY not saying Jones ever went that direction, in fact that is kind of my point. They easily COULD have. They got SMOKING hot, money was pouring in, it without question got douchey for a minute. But the owners held true to their vision and never opted to lean into what was being presented during the stupidly-popular honeymoon phase. It's a choice.

Thinking about this more, it seems the Film Row / West Downtown scene is plenty lively but largely devoid of the shooty/stabby drama.

Not only Jones, but Golden Hour has been going for years and I've never heard of an incident there. Pour was the opposite; they used the same promoters as Kong's and Sunset but thankfully it flamed out pretty quickly.

Flashback is packed on Fridays and Saturdays with a DJ and they have been careful to cultivate the right kind of crowd. I'm been in there many times quite late and it's always fun.

Sun Cattle has a strong bar scene as does OK Cider, the Library, Core 4, and Bar Arbolada. Farther west, Fair Weather Friend, Beer City and Flycatcher have strong business but nothing crazy. Farmer's Market has two of the best bars in town: Power House and Palo Santo.

Nearby Glamour, The Flea has found its audience and I've always liked it there.


So, there is ample evidence to suggest that Glamour can build on all this.

The two proprietors are from OKC but have done several things in Dallas; they aren't club kids and they have made not only a huge investment but spent a lot of time on the details.

I prefer to be optimistic about them.

It's such a huge area that I always forget how much is going on there. Pretty cool to think about.

DEFINITELY not saying Jones ever went that direction, in fact that is kind of my point. They easily COULD have. They got SMOKING hot, money was pouring in, it without question got douchey for a minute. But the owners held true to their vision and never opted to lean into what was being presented during the stupidly-popular honeymoon phase. It's a choice.

No doubt. I don't think Fassler has ever intended to drift that direction (and is def not as bad as Kongs/sunset) but it does tend to get a little rougher from time to time. Definitively a testament to what the Jones has been able to do.

No doubt. I don't think Fassler has ever intended to drift that direction (and is def not as bad as Kongs/sunset) but it does tend to get a little rougher from time to time. Definitively a testament to what the Jones has been able to do.

It doesn't help Fassler that is between Kong's and Sunset.


BTW, rumor is that Sunset might not be around much longer and I know the Midtown Renaissance group wants to buy the Kong's building. You have to believe that when Phillips Murrah moves in there will be far less tolerance of the Kong's/Sunset mayhem.

It doesn't help Fassler that is between Kong's and Sunset.


BTW, rumor is that Sunset might not be around much longer and I know the Midtown Renaissance group wants to buy the Kong's building. You have to believe that when Phillips Murrah moves in there will be far less tolerance of the Kong's/Sunset mayhem.I have intentionally never set foot inside of Sunset simply because of the ownership group. They won't get my money, nor will Kong's.

This place will do well. I don’t think it’s somewhere I would go all the time, but it seems like it could become a destination. As discussed biggest challenge will be to keep on the straight and narrow to get past the initial wave of “want to be” influencers checking out the new hot spot. Once it settles down it should attract a good base of patrons.

Also re: midtown. It was such a bummer to see it being infected with the rough crowd. Midtown always had a professional, after hours vibe. The opposite of what Sunset/Kongs/Fassler was attracting. I’m a quiet person and appreciate a cocktail with a relaxing atmosphere, even tolerant of upbeat but casual. I hate going to places and feeling uncomfortable by obnoxious people.

I have intentionally never set foot inside of Sunset simply because of the ownership group. They won't get my money, nor will Kong's.

Yeah most of the stuff that dude touches starts out cool and ends up sucking hard for the same reasons.

That said, I think all of those places getting new operators and rebranded will help set fassler right. McNellies is a solid ownership group. And sunset is a pretty cool space which is one thing the guy running it did right.

BTW, rumor is that Sunset might not be around much longer and I know the Midtown Renaissance group wants to buy the Kong's building. You have to believe that when Phillips Murrah moves in there will be far less tolerance of the Kong's/Sunset mayhem.

What have they done wrong?

Glamour is now open. I've been targeted on social media with a slick video. This place may not be around forever but it's going to be a fun place to go this summer for sure.

What have they done wrong?

Kong's & Sunset:

https://www.koco.com/article/bouncers-quick-thinking-prevents-possible-deadly-shooting-at-okc-bar/34348691
https://kfor.com/news/local/gunfire-exchanged-outside-okc-bar-person-nearly-hit/
https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-city-deadly-shooting-victim-identified-daniel-howard/42386251
https://www.koco.com/article/security-guards-suspect-open-fires-midtown-bar/39166121

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I don't think they totally control who will the triggers though.

Glamour is now open. I've been targeted on social media with a slick video. This place may not be around forever but it's going to be a fun place to go this summer for sure.

Pics eating a lobster taco in front of the Glam AF sign or it didn’t happen!

Pics eating a lobster taco in front of the Glam AF sign or it didn’t happen!

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^^ lol

soonerguru will also need “100!” emoji sunglasses on. ��

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