View Full Version : Cumulus Media is on the brink of a total collapse.



KenRagsdale
11-14-2017, 04:46 PM
Oklahoma City
KATT-FM/100.5: Album-oriented rock
KKWD/104.9: Rhythmic Top 40
KWPN/640: Sports talk
KYIS/98.9: Adult contemporary
WKY/930: Spanish
WWLS-FM/98.1: Sports talk

http://nypost.com/2017/06/11/cumulus-media-is-on-the-brink-of-a-total-collapse/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_owned_by_Cumulus_Media

stile99
11-14-2017, 06:20 PM
"Meanwhile, current CEO Mary Berner keeps receiving bonus payments, which are now being paid on a quarterly basis instead of the typical end-of-year cycle, perhaps learned from her bankruptcy with Reader’s Digest."

Nice. Makes sure she gets hers while everything around her is in flames. With that kind of attitude/experience, I expect to see her name on the next ballot for Governor.

bchris02
11-14-2017, 10:32 PM
Cumulus is one of the worst-run broadcasting companies in the country. Jan Jefferies, the previous CEO, ran it into the ground by buying out Citadel Communications, which once had great stations and syndicating them across all markets. The current CEO, Mary Berner, has attempted to turn things around by more market-oriented programming and local staff but it looks like too little might be too late. Terrestrial radio these days is being taken over by streaming and satellite. Like brick-and-mortar retailers, FM radio needs to consider how it's going to compete with the alternatives. I think there is still a place for terrestrial radio. After all, it's free and is available almost anywhere. However, the garbage that companies like Cumulus try to impose on their markets isn't going to cut it.

d-usa
11-15-2017, 06:53 AM
The only FM station that gets any play in my car is the local public broadcasting station. If they are playing music it’s streaming for me.

BBatesokc
11-15-2017, 07:27 AM
About a year ago we just started streaming Amazon music in our cars as soon as we start them up. I balance that with some NPR when I'm in the mood to be depressed.

d-usa
11-15-2017, 08:52 AM
Once a month I get that "why am I listening to NPR, I'm still young, I'm still hip" feeling and turn the dial to any of the local stations. After a couple minutes of music I don't know, don't like, stupid DJs, and lots of commercials I think "now I remember why...".

Aside from crappy programming on music radio stations, the music of my youth is on the "oldies" and "retro" stations. 80s and 90s aren't "oldies" or "retro". I'm still hip, I'm still with it!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV0wTtiJygY

StuckInTheCapitol825
11-15-2017, 09:13 AM
In the words of one of their on-air talents, "See yuh."

bchris02
11-15-2017, 11:07 AM
I listen to terrestrial radio when I travel. In OKC though it's mostly streaming radio or my MP3s. If you don't want to listen to 80s hair metal, bro country, sports talk, or religious programming, there really isn't much on the radio here. I really miss having satellite radio as it's great for people who like to discover new music but aren't satisfied with the local offerings. There is actually a lot of good new music out there right now. You just won't hear it on KJ-103.

stile99
11-15-2017, 12:29 PM
When I was younger, I was of course a KJ listener. Then one day it finally hit me...Top 40 means they only have 40 songs.

bchris02
11-15-2017, 12:44 PM
When I was younger, I was of course a KJ listener. Then one day it finally hit me...Top 40 means they only have 40 songs.

I was a KJ listener as a teenager and listened for a few years after I moved back. Something changed around 2014 or 2015 and it's hard to listen to today, though I can't quite put my finger on what. KJ 103's formula has always been that they try to be "hip" enough for teenagers yet conservative enough for parents. For Top 40 stations, KKWD Wild 104.9 and even 98.9 Kiss FM are quite a bit better in my opinion.

d-usa
11-15-2017, 12:56 PM
This is a very weird way to describe it, but I would describe them as:

Kiss: "white" Top 40
Wild: "black" Top 40
KJ: "white kids trying way to hard to be black" Top 40

I know it's all corporate commercially produced programming, but KJ feels like the least "authentic" station we have.

baralheia
11-15-2017, 01:15 PM
Personally, I listen to a lot of terrestrial radio, in addition to streaming music. Can't stand satellite radio because the audio sounds really compressed, like I'm streaming something through RealPlayer over a dialup connection. Definitely, growing up, KJ103 was one of my favorites, but I don't really like listening to it today. My absolute favorite station in our market was 94.7 The BUZZ - while it was still on the air, anyway. Today, my listening time is mostly split between 92.9 The Edge, NPR, and streaming EDM podcasts.

While I am not overly fond of their tendency to mix classic and active rock playlists, I seriously hope that Cumulus's implosion doesn't affect the KATT. That station is an OKC institution and I'd hate to see them disappear.

FighttheGoodFight
11-15-2017, 02:04 PM
Personally, I listen to a lot of terrestrial radio, in addition to streaming music. Can't stand satellite radio because the audio sounds really compressed, like I'm streaming something through RealPlayer over a dialup connection. Definitely, growing up, KJ103 was one of my favorites, but I don't really like listening to it today. My absolute favorite station in our market was 94.7 The BUZZ - while it was still on the air, anyway. Today, my listening time is mostly split between 92.9 The Edge, NPR, and streaming EDM podcasts.

While I am not overly fond of their tendency to mix classic and active rock playlists, I seriously hope that Cumulus's implosion doesn't affect the KATT. That station is an OKC institution and I'd hate to see them disappear.

I learned the other day Sirius streams at like 32kbps and you have to pay to get 128kbps. That is worse than regular FM?!

bchris02
11-15-2017, 02:35 PM
This is a very weird way to describe it, but I would describe them as:

Kiss: "white" Top 40
Wild: "black" Top 40
KJ: "white kids trying way to hard to be black" Top 40

I know it's all corporate commercially produced programming, but KJ feels like the least "authentic" station we have.

Great description here. I definitely think something changed on KJ a couple of years ago because it didn't used to be this bad. I am also certain it isn't the fact that I've aged out of Top 40 because I still enjoy listening to Top 40 stations in other markets and can also listen to Wild and Kiss. There is just something about KJ today and I really don't see how anybody older than high school age could like it.


I learned the other day Sirius streams at like 32kbps and you have to pay to get 128kbps. That is worse than regular FM?!

I haven't had satellite radio since early 2014 so that must be a recent change. It used to be full CD quality (128kbps).

FighttheGoodFight
11-15-2017, 02:46 PM
Great description here. I definitely think something changed on KJ a couple of years ago because it didn't used to be this bad. I am also certain it isn't the fact that I've aged out of Top 40 because I still enjoy listening to Top 40 stations in other markets and can also listen to Wild and Kiss. There is just something about KJ today and I really don't see how anybody older than high school age could like it.



I haven't had satellite radio since early 2014 so that must be a recent change. It used to be full CD quality (128kbps).

So I just learned this. If you have an "XM" radio (8 digit ESN code) the radio is noticeably better quality. If you have a Sirius radio (12 digit ESN) you get the crappy 32kbps quality. Crazy.

rezman
11-16-2017, 11:16 AM
While I am not overly fond of their tendency to mix classic and active rock playlists, I seriously hope that Cumulus's implosion doesn't affect the KATT. That station is an OKC institution and I'd hate to see them disappear.

I can't believe KATT is even still on the air. A guy at our shop was listening to it in his work area recently. It's definitely not rock anymore. More like amplified noise. But, I have to give Rick and Brad credit though. Still doing the same old morning shows from their Hoverounds.

bchris02
11-16-2017, 11:38 AM
I can't believe KATT is even still on the air. A guy at our shop was listening to it in his work area recently. It's definitely not rock anymore. More like amplified noise. But, I have to give Rick and Brad credit though. Still doing the same old morning shows from their Hoverounds.

I haven't listened to KATT since the late 90s/early 00s when nu-metal was popular. It was pretty good back then. Today, it seems like it has more of a classic rock lean.

Roger S
11-16-2017, 12:29 PM
I haven't listened to KATT since the late 90s/early 00s when nu-metal was popular. It was pretty good back then. Today, it seems like it has more of a classic rock lean.

Yeah... I hadn't listened for about 15 years until recently when my CD player quit working... Turned it on and they were still pretty much playing the same songs I heard 15 years ago.

traxx
11-16-2017, 01:36 PM
Maybe the stations will end up getting split up to several different smaller owners. Today we have too few entities owning too much media.

The radio people love and remember from when they were growing up was because each station was individual with their own personality and they were local. They knew their market because they lived in the market too. When big media conglomerates bought up all the stations, everything became homogenized and not nearly as local. You can go to a different state and their stations are gonna sound pretty much like stations in your home town because they're owned by the same company and get their marching orders from corporate.

When I'm in my car, I listen to KREF or listen to the tons of music on my phone or stream Amazon since I'm a prime member.

Bill Robertson
11-17-2017, 07:06 AM
The only station I would miss would be the Animal and only at certain times of the day.

traxx
11-21-2017, 10:45 AM
The only station I would miss would be the Animal and only at certain times of the day.

When the Franchise came on line they wanted so badly to compete with the animal. I can't believe that they totally missed their opportunity. If they had just pilfered the personalities on KREF 1400, they could've easily beaten the animal. They should've gotten Toby and TJ in the morning and Dusty and Teddy in the afternoon. Not change their shows or anything, just tell them to do the same show they had done on KREF but now with a stronger signal. And then just have someone serviceable in the midday as it doesn't really matter because most of your listeners are going to come from morning and afternoon drive time.

Bunty
11-21-2017, 11:00 AM
I learned the other day Sirius streams at like 32kbps and you have to pay to get 128kbps. That is worse than regular FM?!

It's at least good enough for Howard Stern and other talk radio.

OkieHornet
11-21-2017, 01:10 PM
If you have the ways and means to get satellite radio in your car, it really can be cheap. I've been subscribing for years and pay $5/month. I have to call every 5-6 months and spend about 5-10 minutes on the phone getting the promotional deal, but it's totally worth it.

traxx
11-21-2017, 01:32 PM
If you have the ways and means to get satellite radio in your car, it really can be cheap
At 32Kbps it sounds cheap.

FighttheGoodFight
11-21-2017, 01:43 PM
If you have the ways and means to get satellite radio in your car, it really can be cheap. I've been subscribing for years and pay $5/month. I have to call every 5-6 months and spend about 5-10 minutes on the phone getting the promotional deal, but it's totally worth it.

I have a friend who calls every month and pays $1.

I hate to say I pay 5 bucks for streaming music a month and there is no way I would waste my time talking on the phone every month just for a deal, but hey some do.

OkieHornet
11-22-2017, 09:49 AM
I have a friend who calls every month and pays $1.

I hate to say I pay 5 bucks for streaming music a month and there is no way I would waste my time talking on the phone every month just for a deal, but hey some do.

I don’t use the streaming service, car only, and it sounds fantastic to my ears. Very well worth it to avoid the terrestial radio options here in OKC and enjoy the huge variety SiriusXM offers.

Richard at Remax
11-22-2017, 09:51 AM
Trying to cancel XM was painful. I finally had to tell the woman I didn't care if they gave it to me for free, I didn't want it. She finally got the hint.

SoonerDave
11-22-2017, 05:56 PM
Trying to cancel XM was painful. I finally had to tell the woman I didn't care if they gave it to me for free, I didn't want it. She finally got the hint.

It was a misery here, too. Told them I wanted to cancel, and they gave me the standard sales retention spiel. Said no thanks, just cancel. After a few keyboard clicks, she comes back and says, "Okay, I've set you up for cancellation at the end of the month.'

And I said, "Why do I have to wait until the end of the month? I'd want to cancel now and get part of the month back."

And they said "Well we just thought you meant to keep it until the end of the billing period."

At that point, I got frustrated. So I went into frustration mode.

I told them, "I'm sorry for not making my intent clear and causing any confusion. Let me restate it. I want to cancel XM radio service effective this very instant, not tomorrow, and not next week. Is there someone I need to speak with to get that accomplished?"

Then I heard a few violent-sounding keystrokes pounded on some poor keyboard, and a terse "Your account is closed effective immediately."

I said, "Thanks, have a great day!" and heard only the sound of an electronic disconnect on the other end....LOL

I think I messed up someone's retention metrics that day. Alas.

SoonerQueen
11-26-2017, 10:17 PM
Of all the stations on the list, we only listen to WWLS. I left KTOK because I like more local talk radio. I used to listen to KOKC overnight until they took the Red Eye show off. Now I'm back to Patriot Radio repeats on XM.

macfoucin
11-30-2017, 09:30 AM
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2017/11/29/radio-giant-cumulus-media-files-chapter-11.html

traxx
11-30-2017, 12:28 PM
There's a storm brewing at Cumulus.

Soonerman
02-25-2018, 06:32 PM
It's too bad OKC doesn't have a station like KXT out of Dallas.

ditm4567
12-30-2022, 08:06 AM
Traber's postgame comments last night were truly something else...Teddy and Gabe have more knowledge of the game of football in their pinky toes than Traber has in his entire body.