Hopdoddy Burger Bar coming to Chisholm Creek and Nichols Hills (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=436-Hopdoddy-Burger-Bar-coming-to-Chisholm-Creek-and-Nichols-Hills)

Another national restaurant chain is set to make it's Oklahoma debut with two new locations in the Oklahoma City area.


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Austin-based Hopdoddy Burger Bar has plans for a location in The Pointe at Chisholm Creek and in a new building being constructed just south of Nichols Hills Plaza.

As OKCTalk reported just last week (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=435-Proprietors-of-Hatch-Sidecar-and-Broadway-10-to-open-2-level-pizza-restaurant), Provision Concepts is already under construction on Birra Birra, a wood-fired pizza and beer concept to be set on the lake at The Pointe. They will also be operating a gelato and ice cream shop directly to the north.

The third tenant in that Chisholm Creek building will be Hopdoddy, with Fitzsimmons Architects designing the entire exterior structure.


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Since Chesapeake Energy sold to Washington Prime in 2014, the Ohio company has embarked on an aggressive expansion and leasing of of Nichols Hills Plaza, the Triangle and Classen Curve. The new owners have brought in Trader Joe's, Kendra Scott, Rye 51, Cos Bar, Athleta, Evereve and several more national and regional tenants that are new to the OKC market.

Plans obtained by OKCTalk show Hopdoddy taking the far west end of a new commercial building under construction on the north side of NW 63rd on the site of the former Kings Court condominiums. The condos were demolished by Chesapeake Energy years ago and the area has been vacant since.


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Future plans show a new stand-alone Starbuck's which will move from its current location in Nichols Hills Plaza. Plans also show the possible replacement of existing buildings to the east along NW 63rd which houses Mamasita's.

With 25 locations in Texas, Arizona, Colorado, California and Tennessee, Hopdoddy describes itself as a 'craft burger bar' with fresh ingredients, a large beer selection and an energetic vibe.


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So two locations! Awesome.

The NH Plaza location is across from my office, and it will be really nice to have in the rotation. I consider the chain a "reasonably" priced gourmet burger, and it should do well here. Interesting to see the Starbucks is moving.

I was wondering what was going to be going in there, that will be pretty good. Seems like this may cannibalize some of Republic's business.

Based on the renderings, it looks like there may be some plans for Mamasita's?

while i'm glad to see some new development here, i think i'd prefer for the structures to front 63rd and all of the parking being hidden behind them... kind of the way that mamasita's is now.

Based on the renderings, it looks like there may be some plans for Mamasita's?

There are two buildings there; one with Mamasita's and another now-empty office building.

The latter was being used by the City of NH while they renovated their city hall, but they have now moved back.

Mamasita's has not been updated since the 80's. I don't know how that place stays in business. I suspect Washington Prime can find plenty of tenants if they go forward with new construction on that site.

BTW, steel is already up on the Hopdoddy building at NH Plaza:

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So many burger joints.

So many burger joints.

And pizza places, and steakhouses, and Mexican and chicken...

Also a ton of new Asian-influenced places.

The city is just growing. It's not like anyone is inventing completely new cuisines, it's all just an expansion and slight variations on the themes and types.

Great news.. I do love Hopdoddy!

I was wondering what was going to be going in there, that will be pretty good. Seems like this may cannibalize some of Republic's business.

I have a feeling Republic already did this to themselves when they opened at Chisholm Creek. And I wonder about Hopdaddy doing the same, opening two store so close in short time.

Or it could be that they both still do well, just maybe not killing it like it did when it first opened.

I have a feeling Republic already did this to themselves when they opened at Chisholm Creek. And I wonder about Hopdaddy doing the same, opening two store so close in short time.

Or it could be that they both still do well, just maybe not killing it like it did when it first opened.

I feel like Classen Curve / NHP and Chisolm Creek are two different markets,

A year or two ago, my wife and I took a little overnight roadtrip to Tulsa. We met a friend of hers for lunch at a place in Brookside called, "Hopbunz." I thought the place was amazing in terms of both atmosphere and food. Then Hopbunz was gone. Why? They got sued by Hopdoddy for stealing everything that made Hopdoddy unique. And Hopdoddy won. If this place is basically a copy of what used to be Hopbunz (or vice versa) then it will DEFINITELY worth a visit. Without having to drive all the way to Tulsa.

I feel like Classen Curve / NHP and Chisolm Creek are two different markets,

I agree with you here. I think it is crazy that there are 4 burger places in the NHP and Classen Curve area. That is not good news for Pop's because they seem to be struggling.

I agree with you here. I think it is crazy that there are 4 burger places in the NHP and Classen Curve area. That is not good news for Pop's because they seem to be struggling.

Other than having a burger special on Tuesday, if they still have that, I'm not sure why I'd get a burger there .

I agree with you here. I think it is crazy that there are 4 burger places in the NHP and Classen Curve area. That is not good news for Pop's because they seem to be struggling.

As long as Irma's sticks around, I'm good, they're one of our go-to burger joints...

As long as Irma's sticks around, I'm good, they're one of our go-to burger joints...

Well crap I forgot about Irma's! That makes that 5 burger places in that area and not 4.

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Can't wait to try the Impossible Burger here! I've always wanted to compare it with the Beyond Meat patties :D

Can't wait to try the Impossible Burger here! I've always wanted to compare it with the Beyond Meat patties :D

May have just been temporary, but the Jones was recently serving the Impossible Burger

May have just been temporary, but the Jones was recently serving the Impossible Burger

They had it on special before they add it soon, and Tuckers is also about to add it (or already has?).

Tuckers is also about to add it (or already has?).

Really?! This is the best news I've heard in a while. I feel pretty committed to my vegetarianism, but the smell of Tuckers is one of the few things that makes me strongly reconsider...

Really?! This is the best news I've heard in a while. I feel pretty committed to my vegetarianism, but the smell of Tuckers is one of the few things that makes me strongly reconsider...

I don't see it on their website. Count me in, though. I'm not vegetarian and I hadn't heard of this impossible burger before, but I looked it up and it seems worth a try.

I'm not trying to be a smartass with this question but it's something that's always puzzled me about vegetarians/vegans and I would like to hear answers from your point of view.

Why do you want food that resembles the food you have chosen not to consume?

I started wondering this when the smoked jack fruit thing came along and people started comparing it to pulled pork. I've also had tofu from Loaded Bowl that was made to resemble sliced steak.

^

Because you still want the flavor and food experience, just don't want to be part of killing animals for your meal.

^

Because you still want the flavor and food experience, just don't want to be part of killing animals for your meal.

So from that point of view not much different than the keto crowd that tries to make foods resemble grain products..... I'm not part of that crowd but it's the same thought process.

Pete - do you have an opening date?

Pete - do you have an opening date?

No. And it's hard to see the inside progress.

The impossible burger website doesn't have any locations in oklahoma listed on their map of where to get one. So maybe nothing official yet.

I'm not trying to be a smartass with this question but it's something that's always puzzled me about vegetarians/vegans and I would like to hear answers from your point of view.

Why do you want food that resembles the food you have chosen not to consume?

I started wondering this when the smoked jack fruit thing came along and people started comparing it to pulled pork. I've also had tofu from Loaded Bowl that was made to resemble sliced steak.

Being a fellow fan of the original slider, I thought you might read this before thinking of ordering one when you travel.
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/04/white_castles_impossible_slider_may_possibly_be_th .html

What does the name Hopdoddy mean? Seems like a random nonsensical name to me.

From an old Facebook post of theirs:
""Hop" is the flower used to flavor beer, and "doddy" is the nickname given to the original Angus of Aberdeen, Scotland."

No. And it's hard to see the inside progress.

The whole front is glass and you can see right in.

I'm not trying to be a smartass with this question but it's something that's always puzzled me about vegetarians/vegans and I would like to hear answers from your point of view.

Why do you want food that resembles the food you have chosen not to consume?

I started wondering this when the smoked jack fruit thing came along and people started comparing it to pulled pork. I've also had tofu from Loaded Bowl that was made to resemble sliced steak.

The Impossible Burger, from what I've learned in the past few days, was created primarily to help convert meat eaters to vegetarianism. If the plant burger tastes just as good as the meat burger, I don't particularly need my burger to be from a dead animal.

Also, a lot of vegetarians, I imagine, started out eating meat as children and growing up and later made a conscious decision to stop eating meat. They'll still want to have some of the flavors and culinary experiences they used to without having the literal meat.

oh wow I am sorry for taking the thread off-topic :(

And even though a few people have already answered the question, I also want to say that there are also health reasons.
My dad had to change his diet last year, and being a lifelong consumer of meat, he found it hard to quit.
Then he read about meat patties that tasted, smelled, and had the almost exact same texture as meat patties, which was the Beyond Meat patties.
I was out of the country at the time, so when my family told me about this magical product, I scoffed like probably most people would.
But then I came back to Oklahoma a few months later, and when I finally tried one myself, I was amazed.
Like you don't know how much my dad loves the Beyond Meat. He eats it every freaking day, even though it isn't cheap!
When Whole Foods was out of stock, I bought other veggie meat patties, and he wouldn't touch them.
Now they're sold at Target, and Beyond Meat even makes sausages now (that also taste like real meat sausages).
I probably sounded like a Beyond Meat spokesperson, but seeing my dad being able to control his diet and not having to eat any cow meat has made me happy.

And to take the topic back to Hopdoddy, I hope I can go with my dad so we can both try the Impossible Burger, but I'll also try their other stuff as well :D

https://twitter.com/winerev/status/996016284763648002

There you go

oh wow I am sorry for taking the thread off-topic :(

And even though a few people have already answered the question, I also want to say that there are also health reasons.
My dad had to change his diet last year, and being a lifelong consumer of meat, he found it hard to quit.
Then he read about meat patties that tasted, smelled, and had the almost exact same texture as meat patties, which was the Beyond Meat patties.
I was out of the country at the time, so when my family told me about this magical product, I scoffed like probably most people would.
But then I came back to Oklahoma a few months later, and when I finally tried one myself, I was amazed.
Like you don't know how much my dad loves the Beyond Meat. He eats it every freaking day, even though it isn't cheap!
When Whole Foods was out of stock, I bought other veggie meat patties, and he wouldn't touch them.
Now they're sold at Target, and Beyond Meat even makes sausages now (that also taste like real meat sausages).
I probably sounded like a Beyond Meat spokesperson, but seeing my dad being able to control his diet and not having to eat any cow meat has made me happy.

And to take the topic back to Hopdoddy, I hope I can go with my dad so we can both try the Impossible Burger, but I'll also try their other stuff as well :D

Tucker's announced over the weekend they are serving the Impossible Burger now... So you don't have to wait to go have one with your pops.

I guess a lot of people requested the Impossible Burger at Tucker's! I've never tried them, and it's of course good to support local businesses, so will definitely visit them soon :D

I'm not trying to be a smartass with this question but it's something that's always puzzled me about vegetarians/vegans and I would like to hear answers from your point of view.

Why do you want food that resembles the food you have chosen not to consume?

I started wondering this when the smoked jack fruit thing came along and people started comparing it to pulled pork. I've also had tofu from Loaded Bowl that was made to resemble sliced steak.

Like was stated up thread by Mastermind. I also have health issues and have to be careful how I get my protein. No red meat, no cured meats (such as ham or bacon), etc. So I love finding alternatives that are close. I've made vegan burgers with black beans, but the beyond burgers are so much better. Pulled pork isn't a problem for me, so haven't done the jack fruit thing myself. My son is a vegetarian, ever since he started college and met his girlfriend (yes, seriously), so he likes these alternatives as well.

Pretty interesting explanation of the Impossible Burger.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebNeUihciDI

I gave the impossible burger a go at Tucker's. I'll say this, if I had not known it was plant-based and you presented it to me as a regular burger, I'd believe that it was made of beef. In that respect, it is a complete success. With that said, I didn't think it was a particularly good burger. It wasn't bad, but its not going to convert away from meat just yet. I've had other veggie burgers that, while they wouldn't be confused at all with real meat, had their own flavor that, I think, was better than this impossible burger.

If you're a vegetarian then this is the closest you'll probably be getting to a real meat flavor and texture, but I otherwise wouldn't particularly recommend it based on its own merits.

Short comparison between beef and impossible burger

https://www.mensjournal.com/food-drink/great-veggie-burgers-are-here-but-are-they-any-healthier-w449490/

I gave the impossible burger a go at Tucker's. I'll say this, if I had not known it was plant-based and you presented it to me as a regular burger, I'd believe that it was made of beef. In that respect, it is a complete success. With that said, I didn't think it was a particularly good burger. It wasn't bad, but its not going to convert away from meat just yet. I've had other veggie burgers that, while they wouldn't be confused at all with real meat, had their own flavor that, I think, was better than this impossible burger.

If you're a vegetarian then this is the closest you'll probably be getting to a real meat flavor and texture, but I otherwise wouldn't particularly recommend it based on its own merits.

Between this answer and a guy who's smoked his whole life saying otherwise, I'll have to give this a go. Is it any more expensive than a burger at Tuckers?

Between this answer and a guy who's smoked his whole life saying otherwise, I'll have to give this a go. Is it any more expensive than a burger at Tuckers?

A single is 4 bucks more at Tucker’s a double is 5 bucks more than the beef burger

A single is 4 bucks more at Tucker’s a double is 5 bucks more than the beef burger

wow. that's...a lot. I guess I was hoping these would be less expensive, since their whole thing is all about using less resources to actually produce a patty.

Asking because I don't know.... and apologies if it has been asked... is the fully burdened cost to create an impossible burger truly more than what it is to create a beef burger or is there simply a "market value" folks are willing to pay and so that is what is charged?

Asking because I don't know.... and apologies if it has been asked... is the fully burdened cost to create an impossible burger truly more than what it is to create a beef burger or is there simply a "market value" folks are willing to pay and so that is what is charged?

Probably a combination. There is a market demand that will pay higher prices, so they can, but also, since it's a growing market and there is still limited distribution, they probably need to charge a bit more. I assume the prices will drop with larger distribution and more outlets.

Does Hopdoddy only do the alternative burgers, or can you get beef?

Does Hopdoddy only do the alternative burgers, or can you get beef?

They mostly do beef.

A year or two ago, my wife and I took a little overnight roadtrip to Tulsa. We met a friend of hers for lunch at a place in Brookside called, "Hopbunz." I thought the place was amazing in terms of both atmosphere and food. Then Hopbunz was gone. Why? They got sued by Hopdoddy for stealing everything that made Hopdoddy unique. And Hopdoddy won. If this place is basically a copy of what used to be Hopbunz (or vice versa) then it will DEFINITELY worth a visit. Without having to drive all the way to Tulsa.
Kind of like what happened to Two Peso's after Taco Cabana sued them.

We ate at Hopdoddy when we lived in Austin, I still haven't been to the one at Union Station here in Denver. Mainly because I have been on medical leave for a liver transplant since May of last year and don't go downtown too often. I may wander over there once I start back to work in July.

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Still kind of off topic re: Hopdaddy, but I tried the Impossible Burger at Tucker's and loved it. It's been nearly two years since I've had a beef cheeseburger, so my perspective may be skewed, but it was remarkably like meat to me both in texture and in taste... almost disturbingly so. I'm impressed that they were able to create such a meat-like burger just from plants. I'll definitely be having it again!

Is it a vegan burger or just meatless?

Is it a vegan burger or just meatless?

It's vegan

Guess the million dollar question here if you are a vegan.... Are they frying it on the same grill with the meat?

And is the cheese vegan? I'm not a vegan, but I know people who are and would like to try it.

Nichols Hills location almost ready:

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Hopdoddy just tweeted that they will be open in Nichols Hills by the end of July.

I moved the 'local' discussion to a thread of its own:

http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=44291&p=1035136

And is the cheese vegan? I'm not a vegan, but I know people who are and would like to try it.

No. The cheese is not vegan. Neither is the bun. If you want it vegan, you have to order without the cheese and with the kids bun.