Thought this was pretty funny. The featured electric truck has Oklahoma plates.

https://www.theautopian.com/truck-nuts-for-electric-trucks-are-now-a-thing-and-you-can-make-them-at-home/

Just saw my first EV Silverado on the road. Looks more like an Avalanche than a Silverado. Not a fan. I'm glad Ford kept the F-150 body for my Lightning.

Been looking at the VW ID Buzz the last few days. Disappointing that it doesn't appear to qualify for the EV tax credit but it appears it does qualify for the section 179. Does OK have any tax credits for EVs?

Been looking at the VW ID Buzz the last few days. Disappointing that it doesn't appear to qualify for the EV tax credit but it appears it does qualify for the section 179. Does OK have any tax credits for EVs?

Not last time I looked, which makes sense as a primarily O&G state.

Been looking at the VW ID Buzz the last few days. Disappointing that it doesn't appear to qualify for the EV tax credit but it appears it does qualify for the section 179. Does OK have any tax credits for EVs?

Nah, but you get to pay an extra $110 at registration, and I'm assuming every year at renewal time.

Need to check my history books to see if Oklahoma was proudly siding with the horse buggy whip manufacturers when the combustion engine was gaining traction in the marketplace...

Nah, but you get to pay an extra $110 at registration, and I'm assuming every year at renewal time.

Need to check my history books to see if Oklahoma was proudly siding with the horse buggy whip manufacturers when the combustion engine was gaining traction in the marketplace...

You say that, but it is significantly cheaper to build a road for a horse than a combustion engine vehicle and the horse provides complementary mowing services. :tongue:

That said, there needs to be a fair model for anything with 2 or more wheels to fund the roads.

Nah, but you get to pay an extra $110 at registration, and I'm assuming every year at renewal time.

Need to check my history books to see if Oklahoma was proudly siding with the horse buggy whip manufacturers when the combustion engine was gaining traction in the marketplace...

You tried. Your first paragraph shows OK is pro-ICE cars, then you decided to go too far with your sarcasm, and ruined your whole point.

That said, there needs to be a fair model for anything with 2 or more wheels to fund the roads.

There already is. EV owners pay much more for their tags than ICE owners.

There already is. EV owners pay much more for their tags than ICE owners.

Well yeah. OK has a gas tax that goes to road maintenance (or is supposed to). If EVs drive on the roads but don't pay that tax, it isn't fair. So I actually get it.

And the vast majority of the damage done to our roads comes from neither EV nor ICE drivers, nor even Oklahoma residents.

It's those 18 wheelers.

18 wheelers weigh as much as 80,000 pounts. A really big EV or ICE car is 5,000 pounds. It's ridiculous to pit EV vs. ICE drivers in this contest. Some states (not Oklahoma as far as I can tell) charge Heavy Use Vehicle Taxes for large trucks carrying in excess of a certain weight, also known as HVUT. As things stand right now, us little guys are subsidizing out of state truckers who congest and destroy our roads because our legislature won't get on board with charging them some sort of reasonable fee. There are five states which charge large commercial semi trucks special fees for their use in those states.

Nah, but you get to pay an extra $110 at registration, and I'm assuming every year at renewal time.
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Yes, the $110 is added on to every year's renewal.

That's still getting off cheaper than an ICE.
Just an estimate of 60k miles per year, averaging 25mpg and paying 19 cents per gallon in tax adds up to $456 per year.

That's still getting off cheaper than an ICE.
Just an estimate of 60k miles per year, averaging 25mpg and paying 19 cents per gallon in tax adds up to $456 per year.

You drive 60,000 miles per year? That seems pretty excessive. I drive a lot compared to most and I would say it's only about 20,000 miles a year.

But let's take some more pedestrian numbers. Let's say a car that gets 30 miles a gallon drives 10,000 miles per year. They'd pay about $60.

You drive 60,000 miles per year? That seems pretty excessive. I drive a lot compared to most and I would say it's only about 20,000 miles a year.

But let's take some more pedestrian numbers. Let's say a car that gets 30 miles a gallon drives 10,000 miles per year. They'd pay about $60.

Now let's be realistic. No one only drives 800 miles a month. Double it, to start. Then you're right around that $110 that EVs pay.

You drive 60,000 miles per year? That seems pretty excessive. I drive a lot compared to most and I would say it's only about 20,000 miles a year.

But let's take some more pedestrian numbers. Let's say a car that gets 30 miles a gallon drives 10,000 miles per year. They'd pay about $60.

Ya the average US mileage per year is 14.5k. 60k is crazy.

Now let's be realistic. No one only drives 800 miles a month. Double it, to start. Then you're right around that $110 that EVs pay.

I used to drive a lot less than that when I lived and worked downtown and went to school up at 23rd and Blackwelder.

My 2020 model Toyota - purchased the day after Thanksgiving 2019, so almost exactly five years old to me - has 29K on it. Less than 500/mo. It was far less until about a year ago…the first couple of years were only like 3K-4K/yr.

I use my vehicle for work and only drive about 1000 miles a month. However, I live 3 miles from the office. My wife only drives around 500 mile a month.

BTW you don’t actually pay 19¢ per gallon in gas tax in Oklahoma, it is closer to 38¢ when you pay federal and the fees. Electric vehicle charging in Oklahoma also has an excise tax of 3¢ per kilowatt hour at public assessable chargers.

Ok. Ok. I messed up. I don't know what I was thinking when I came up with 60k. I actually drive around 20k. Might have been before coffee. So the difference really isn't that much.