Interesting note: Everyone has been saying that Terrance Ferguson has not been signed yet (he's the only first round pick not to sign) because he lacked FIBA clearance, but it appears he's been cleared for two weeks. Since you can't trade a rookie until 30 days after they're signed, it makes you wonder if the the Thunder are including him in trade talks now...

Interesting note: Everyone has been saying that Terrance Ferguson has not been signed yet (he's the only first round pick not to sign) because he lacked FIBA clearance, but it appears he's been cleared for two weeks. Since you can't trade a rookie until 30 days after they're signed, it makes you wonder if the the Thunder are including him in trade talks now...

I think his agent is holding out. His scale is around a million give or take a couple hundred either side of it.

Thunder's roster has bumped up to 17. They should make some cuts soon; we'll lose 2:

ESPN Thunder roster 2017: http://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder


PGs: Christian & Cole are backups to Westbrook & Felton. (May lose 1)
SFs: Grant, Huestis & Singler are backups to George & McDermott. (May lose 1)

Cole is an unrestricted free agent; there's a good possibility that he may not come back.

Ferguson: He can play the PG or SG. He may spend time in the G-League until they can build his confidence to transition to the NBA.

We'll see how this plays out. . .

I think his agent is holding out. His scale is around a million give or take a couple hundred either side of it.

What would his agent holdout on? The salary is pretty much predetermined. There's not much to negotiate. The Thunder have done deals with guys, but those seem to have been agreed to pre-draft. The Thunder would look really cheap trying to negotiate anything.

What would his agent holdout on? The salary is pretty much predetermined. There's not much to negotiate. The Thunder have done deals with guys, but those seem to have been agreed to pre-draft. The Thunder would look really cheap trying to negotiate anything.

His agent is Rich Paul, who started Klutch Sports....LeBrons' guy. He is known for holding out for the best deal. Myself, i'm not sure what leverage he has but that's what I read.

His agent is Rich Paul, who started Klutch Sports....LeBrons' guy. He is known for holding out for the best deal. Myself, i'm not sure what leverage he has but that's what I read.

Norris Cole was on the Thunder's books for $288,131--with 26 games left on the schedule following the All Star break. Cole is an unrestricted free agent should make $1,471,382 for 2017-18.

As Dankrutka mentioned there's not a lot of wiggle room with his contract. Cole had a workout with the Pelicans on July 24.

Semaj Christon may be a better player option to retain at $1,312,611 (2017-18) as a backup point guard to Westbrook & Felton.

So excited for this year. I think this off-season has proven Sam Presti is the best, if not a top 3, GM in the league. Not crazy aabout melo but i think were just going for the jugular and trying to go all in. Dont really see a new uniform and not sure why we haven't upgraded OUr image/brand like mentioned above. Uni's that say "o-city or no-city" would be hip and capture the chest out and chin up pride a lot of us OKIES have about OUr city these days.

Really curious though, you guys have any info as to which companies we will partner with to do the new advertising patches were supposed to put on OUr uniforms in accordance to NBA standards?

Would love to see a local successful company like Paycom take advantage of that opportunity. For what ESPN likes to hate on us and call us a "small market" we sure did have a ton of highly rated games last year. Coming off a year with the mvp this would be a great chance to capitalize on TV coverage/visibility.

I can see Cole and Christon both being cut. If they want to stretch Singler they might cut him too.

Ferguson signed yesterday so we set at 17 players today.

I can see Cole and Christon both being cut. If they want to stretch Singler they might cut him too.

Ferguson signed yesterday so we set at 17 players today.

We are at 16 as of now. Cole is not part of the team in any way

Christian has a non guaranteed deal with the decide date pushed back to training camp

I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see more movement in the next month and a half. Whether it be a cut or trades involving multiple players.

The roster is full with the Ferguson signing so Christon is only coming back on the Blue, a new two way deal, or in the event of a trade.

His agent is Rich Paul, who started Klutch Sports....LeBrons' guy. He is known for holding out for the best deal. Myself, i'm not sure what leverage he has but that's what I read.

Again, there's nothing to hold out for. You pretty much just give Ferguson his deal. There's no leverage or bargaining needed. Pretty much every rookie signs for the league set salary.

The roster is full with the Ferguson signing so Christon is only coming back on the Blue, a new two way deal, or in the event of a trade.

Christian currently is on the roster as are the 16 other guys
He has a non guaranteed deal so they have until sometime in training camp to waive him before his deal becomes guaranteed for the year. It is quite possible they make another trade or waive and stretch singler to clear a roster spot/save money on tax payments.


Again, there's nothing to hold out for. You pretty much just give Ferguson his deal. There's no leverage or bargaining needed. Pretty much every rookie signs for the league set salary.

Actually the team can sign the player any where in the range of 80% to 120% Of the draft slot so there is something to negotiate

Again, there's nothing to hold out for. You pretty much just give Ferguson his deal. There's no leverage or bargaining needed. Pretty much every rookie signs for the league set salary.

There's a scale for that salary (up to 120% of the rookie salary for that draft position), so there is a bit of negotiating that can happen.

Edit: Oops. Boulder said this an hour ago.

There's a scale for that salary (up to 120% of the rookie salary for that draft position), so there is a bit of negotiating that can happen.

Edit: Oops. Boulder said this an hour ago.

This is what I've been trying to say. It looks like they gave him the top end of the scale.

Christian currently is on the roster as are the 16 other guys
He has a non guaranteed deal so they have until sometime in training camp to waive him before his deal becomes guaranteed for the year. It is quite possible they make another trade or waive and stretch singler to clear a roster spot/save money on tax payments.



Actually the team can sign the player any where in the range of 80% to 120% Of the draft slot so there is something to negotiate

The only times I've ever seen a rookie sign below the top end of the rookie scale, it was clearly pre-arranged before the player was drafted (even if those discussions are hush hush). I've never heard of a team and agents haggling over this after the draft. It would make OKC look awful if this were the case and they'd quickly develop a terrible reputation in the league. So, yes, while it is possible OKC and Rich Paul were haggling over a few thousand dollars, it would be pretty unprecedented unless there's a case I don't know of. Roberson signed below the top level, but that seemed to clearly have been agreed to already.

Yes, I guess stretching Singler to keep Christon could happen. I just don't think Christon is an NBA-level player. Doesn't seem worth it, but clearly the organization values him more than I do. They've already made inexplicable move in Christon's name (paying Ronnie Price, probably a better player, $5 million to NOT play)... not that stretching Singler is inexplicable, just doing it for Christon is...

Heard that Singler is a very good practice team player to help simulate the opponents' offense & defense.


http://kylesingler.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Kyle_Singler_cerca_jugar_Real.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/4c/1c/9c/4c1c9c827d9a8ecfc0821fc7d356b904--basketball-coach-duke-blue-devils.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/96/Kyle_Singler_18-01-14.jpg/220px-Kyle_Singler_18-01-14.jpg

So, the questions regarding Kyle Singler are:


Is Singler really that bad of a player?
Could it be he’s the victim of circumstance?
Is he not being utilized properly?

When you look at his career statistics, the first thing you’ll notice is he has never averaged more than nine points a game. However, he has never averaged more than five shots per game in his career. To put it simply, his numbers are decent based on his amount of shots combined with made shots. Averaging almost three points a game on less than three shots is about 50%. Which is approximately what his career percentage is.

Oklahoma City Thunder: Here’s the deal with Kyle Singler: https://thunderousintentions.com/2017/07/28/oklahoma-city-thunder-heres-the-deal-with-kyle-singler/

Thunder sign former Bruin Bryce Alford to training camp contract:


After a positive stint in summer league with the Warriors, former UCLA Bruin Bryce Alford is signing with the Thunder on a training camp contract.

ESPN - NBA Oklahoma City Thunder - http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20210024/bryce-alford-signs-training-camp-contract-oklahoma-city-thunder


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX8xmWh_qbw


Guard - 6' 3", 185 lbs

Birth Date: January 18, 1995
Hometown: Albuquerque, NM
Height: 6-3
Weight: 185 lbs

2016-17 Season:
PPG RPG APG
15.5 2.5 2.6

Oklahoma City Thunder roster updates:


(23) Terrance Ferguson - Guard - Age: 19, Height 6-7 - Weight 185, Salary - $1,785,0004
(4) Nick Collison - Power Forward - Age: 36, Height 6-10 - Weight 255, Salary - $1,471,382
(9) Jerami Grant Small Forward - Age: 23, Height 6-9 - Weight 210, Salary - $1,524,305


Thunder roster updates: http://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunder

Bryce Alford


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHS0wBUoSD4

Bryce Alford- "Weclome to Thunder"

Really should be: Bryce Alford... welcome to the Blue. ;)

He'll be assigned to the Blue.

Impressed with smart decisions this young man makes; if he can transfer this skill set from college to the NBA you might see another player on par with J. J. Redick or J. J. Barea--nice little piece to keep an eye on.

Another potential 3-point weapon for the Thunder's arsenal.

Well it was a year ago today that the Thunder announced Russ had re-negotiated his contract last season..... Sure would be nice to get that news again today.

New alternate uniforms are out, and they are really not doing much for me.

New alternate uniforms are out, and they are really not doing much for me.

I love them. Can't wait for the team to wear them. I think they'll become pretty popular.

I love them. Can't wait for the team to wear them. I think they'll become pretty popular.

+1 Will be worn on Sunday games.

Absolutely love the new uniforms. I think they're the best ones OKC has had by a long shot. OKC's logo, uniforms, and general merchandise has been really, really underpar for a pro sports team in my opinion (and a lot of media and experts agree). I hope these new uniforms are a step in the right direction.

http://www.nba.com/thunder/news/statement-uniform-170915/

Looks like I'm in the minority with thinking they are fugly. Looking forward to seeing their Christmas uniform this year.

I'll miss the sunsets. Loved those.

These uniforms are fresh to death. My goodness, they can't put them on sale fast enough. I dont miss the old sunsets as much.

Wish these were the everyday unis.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/thunder/sites/default/files/styles/stream/public/15_george_statement_uniforms_0.jpg?itok=X-12B-2a
Paul George models 2017-18 Thunder alternate uniform.

So KD got caught last night using alternator/private twitter and instagram accounts. He forgot to switch his accounts when he went to reply to people asking him why he left OKC. You can see all the information on twitter, reddit, and other news outlets as the drama is coming to light. So for everyone (especially OKC fans) who have been called salty for claiming KD is weak, here you go. Actual evidence from the cupcake himself where he is so insecure about himself and his decision, that he has fake accounts to help create a hivemind for his liking. Honestly it is rather sad, but holy crap is it entertaining watching this career's personality meltdown.

The reply from (unbeknownst to him) himself was interesting, though. He says the reason he left is because the front office couldn't get anyone other than Russ and called the other players trash. He also said he didn't like playing for Donovan.

Crazy how his mistake on twitter gives us a glimpse of his true reasoning for leaving.

His PR team and him haven't made any comments about this yet, but I wonder how they could spin this, other than maybe claim a PR or intern forgot to log out of KD's official account when they went to reply. (which is a weak excuse)


I would put money on KD regretting leaving. He had no idea how much hate would come from it. I sort of feel bad for the guy, but he has millions of dollars and is lined up to win probably 3 or 4 rings in a row - so I just laugh now.

He's the Taylor Swift of the NBA.

Honestly, I dont care.what he says. He isn't on OUr team anymore so he can kick rocks with no shoes until his feet bleed.

Im more-so excited and amped up for this year.

Honestly, I dont care.what he says. He isn't on OUr team anymore so he can kick rocks with no shoes until his feet bleed.

Im more-so excited and amped up for this year.

+1

You can see it here -

http://dailythunder.com/kd-tweets-in-third-person-to-defend-himself-criticize-thunder/#more-43266

Hahahahahahahaha

You can see it here -

http://dailythunder.com/kd-tweets-in-third-person-to-defend-himself-criticize-thunder/#more-43266

What about the playoff game against Golden State that he is responsible for the thunder losing? Or those times where he was out because of his injury? Seems like he has selective memory.

2016:
Andre Iguodala: OKC is the best team in the NBA
Kevin Durant: OKC sucks. We can't win.
Rest of Warriors: Thanks for not believing in your own team, KD!

KD needs to see a specialist. Not even joking.

How in the hell is he trashing a coach and team that took the greatest team of all time to 3-1, minutes away from the finals with HIM as the main option?! His historical revisionism is so incredibly sad. He is literally doing everything possible to justify his move. If he just said all these things and was straight up, it would be better than everything him and his PR team have done so far. The 'hater' shoes, the alternate social media accounts... And this is in the last 2 weeks. I mean is this guy for real?

Softest player in sports history.

^^^^^^^
100% agree. Just smile and flash your ring at people and shut up.

Here's all he needed to do/say when he left: "I know this is disappointing to OKC fans and my teammates, who have supported me and seen me through so much. This in particular made it a hugely difficult decision for me. But I just felt like Golden State was a better fit for me at this point. I will always treasure my time here, and I hope there comes a time when the people who have been so great to me will understand my decision and forgive me for leaving. Until then OKC will always have a special place in my heart and I wish everyone the best." And after that, SHUT UP. Talk about your new team. Talk about the Bay Area. Whatever. If OKC comes up in conversation stick to the script I just laid out above.

If he said something along those lines in his departure and then shut the hell up about it, mark it down on his return he would have gotten very few boos, and tons of applause, and NONE of the vitriol and national derision he is now experiencing. He has made this so much more difficult than it had to be. His victim narrative is so transparent. What a weak-minded insecure individual he is. It is crazy.

His own argument makes a point against him as well. "The team was weak, if Westbrook was out we didn't have anyone to pick up the slack", and he was right. Turns out a Thunder without Westbrook was worse than a Thunder without Durant. That says more about KD than the Thunder though.

I'm only a casual follower of the NBA, and I have to say that prior to last year I always felt that Westbrook was the asshole of the team. Turns out I was wrong, and that probably came from me only seeing his game-time persona.

Since 2008 I have been on the Russ train and I was always a bit suspicious of KD's heart, determination and sincerity. I have had many spirited discussions with friends, on social media and even on this board when I said in the past that if we lost one guy I'd rather it be KD. I have always thought that Russ was the guy I'd rather build a team around, warts and all. As far as I'm concerned KD will likely never be more than the greatest role player of all time. He is the OPPOSITE of a leader.

Softest player in sports history.

Would you say KD is as soft as a cake? Not even a big cake, but maybe a small cake that can fit in a cup.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2017/09/19/remorseful-kevin-durant-feels-terrible-twitter-incident-disappointed-myself/682654001/

^^^^^^^
100% agree. Just smile and flash your ring at people and shut up.

Here's all he needed to do/say when he left: "I know this is disappointing to OKC fans and my teammates, who have supported me and seen me through so much. This in particular made it a hugely difficult decision for me. But I just felt like Golden State was a better fit for me at this point. I will always treasure my time here, and I hope there comes a time when the people who have been so great to me will understand my decision and forgive me for leaving. Until then OKC will always have a special place in my heart and I wish everyone the best." And after that, SHUT UP. Talk about your new team. Talk about the Bay Area. Whatever. If OKC comes up in conversation stick to the script I just laid out above.

If he said something along those lines in his departure and then shut the hell up about it, mark it down on his return he would have gotten very few boos, and tons of applause, and NONE of the vitriol and national derision he is now experiencing. He has made this so much more difficult than it had to be. His victim narrative is so transparent. What a weak-minded insecure individual he is. It is crazy.

But that's why we should ignore and press on. Screw him dude. His insecurities and childishness show up consistently. But who cares. He isn't here anymore. It infuriates me when those dopes at ESPN pretend like we cared about him choosing to leave. Nahhhh bruh, he is a grown man. Its not that he left, its the fact that the guy conspired with members of our rival BEFORE he left and then when we had the chance to finish them off the guy went 7-40 and he jacked up bricks all game long. Only for him and his family to take cheap shots at OUr city after we showed them love while they were here????

Yeah im pissed too. But I don't care to give them any of my energy or let them take up any space in my head. On to the next is how I see it. Westbrook is better than that string bean anyway. And if Westbrook leaves then im still gone rock my THUNDER gear anyway.

Eff durant, eff his family, Eff ESPN, Eff those socks with the bell on them and Eff everything they stand for.....OUr jerseys are blue and OUr sky is too. This is OKC.

We don't look back because were too busy looking forward to all that GOD has in store for us!

#OKC_ON_MINES

Would you say KD is as soft as a cake? Not even a big cake, but maybe a small cake that can fit in a cup.

Cupcake lmbo!

Carmelo to the Thunder! Trading Kanter and McDermott.

Yep.... We may struggle on the defensive end a bit but they may have to change the nets after each quarter with all the points Russ, PG13, and Melo are going to be scoring.

Yep.... We may struggle on the defensive end a bit but they may have to change the nets after each quarter with all the points Russ, PG13, and Melo are going to be scoring.

If anything this makes OKC better defensively. Kanter and McBuckets were maybe the two worst defensive players on the team. When Melo plays the 4 he can be average. OKC's defense actually might still be better than the offense. I think OKC has a top 5, maybe top 3 defense.

OKC will have some chemistry role issues to work out (Melo and PG will need play the 4), but this really raises OKC's ceiling a lot. Kanter and McBuckets were not helpful against OKC's primary competition at the top of the league, especially Houston and Gloden State. Melo at the 4 is much more useful. In short, this really raises OKC's ceiling, especially in the playoffs.

Having said all that, I will really miss Enes. No player has embraced OKC like him. I also appreciated that he spoke out for justice (particuarly in regards to Erdogan's dicatatorial and abusive regime) and embraced diversity. Enes constantly talked about Oklahoma being home and used the hashtag #OklaHome regularly. He was always so positive. I'm going to miss him being on the team.

Carmelo Anthony added Thunder to his list of preferred destinations; then got traded to them.

SB Nation: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/23/16354382/carmelo-anthony-trade-rumors-thunder-oklahoma-city

Westbrook - Anthony - George = WAG

Game on, the Thunder are ready to challenge any NBA team for the NBA championship including Cupcake & his Golden State Buns.

Reallly excited for the season now but wondering how bad our bench will be scoring wise.

Reallly excited for the season now but wondering how bad our bench will be scoring wise.

The bench should be fine, in my opinion. The bench will now have Patterson, Abrines, Felton, and Grant, which makes for a solid 9-man rotation. When the Thunder go deeper then they will have to go to some unproven guys. But more than anything, Donovan should be staggering Russ, PG, and Melo's minutes so one of them is always on the floor.

Or, if we want to get crazy, there's already some rumors about adding D-Wade if he is bought out as is expected. ;)

ESPN: Oklahoma City Thunder Roster update includes Carmelo Anthony - http://www.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/okc/oklahoma-city-thunderhttp://


Russell Westbrook $28,530,608
Carmelo Anthony $26,243,760
Paul George $19,508,958

I could see OKC having to waste an asset like a future pick to get rid of Singler's contract and avoid more of the tax.

In my ticket draft I got the opening game with Knicks (and Enes) visiting their former teammate Carmelo, AND I got the first GSW game. Hello, StubHub! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The bench should be fine, in my opinion. The bench will now have Patterson, Abrines, Felton, and Grant, which makes for a solid 9-man rotation...
Two guys who have been regular starters on good teams and two guys with tremendous upside and potential to become starters free or somewhere in the future.

Much better starting lineup with a deeper bench than last year's. If Westbrook George, and Melo all leave, the Thunder have shed all their awful contracts and will allow them to start the rebuilding process faster.