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Urbanized
04-11-2018, 07:11 AM
That’s fine and all but the’re currently down 62-33 to the Lakers at the half. Just saying they’re more vulnerable this season than they have been in the past few.

Oops, Jazz. My bad.

Laramie
04-11-2018, 11:47 AM
NBA playoff race: What's at stake and what to watch on Wednesday: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23088248/2018-nba-playoff-race-stake-watch



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Portland Trailblazers have lost 4 in a row. http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/por/portland-trail-blazers

dankrutka
04-11-2018, 12:50 PM
In the short term (and assuming OKC beats Memphis), Thunder fans have two choices:

1. Root for Portland, get the 4 seed and play the Jazz, and (hopefully) play the Rockets in round 2
2. Root for the Jazz, get the 6 seed and play the Jazz, and (hopefully) play the Warriors in round 2.

I don't think there's a clear right option. I guess it depends on -- as we've been discussing -- where you think Golden State and Houston are right now.

I can't wait for the Timberwolves-Nuggets game tonight. It's the super rare play-in game.

Anonymous.
04-11-2018, 12:58 PM
We definitely want Portland and us to win. Because homecourt against the Jazz would be really great.

Richard at Remax
04-11-2018, 01:06 PM
Houston or Utah are OKC only potential opponents for 1st round (via https://twitter.com/trailblazers/status/983912978553569280)

shawnw
04-11-2018, 05:59 PM
Dang, I didn't think we could still be 8th, but I guess that makes sense...

Laramie
04-11-2018, 09:39 PM
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Oklahoma City Thunder 137 - Memphis Grizzlies 123

Box score: http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400975973


Westbrook: NBA record back to back years to average a triple-double. George 40, Adams 24, Brewer 17, Grant 12, Ferguson 12, Anthony 10.

Laramie
04-11-2018, 10:24 PM
Disturbing:

Pelicans defeated the Spurs 122 - 98

Thunder & Pelicans end the season with identical records: 48 - 34. Pelicans have the tie-breaker with a 2-1 head to head match-up vs. Thunder.

Who will be the 4th seed if Utah loses or Portland loses:

WEST PLAYOFFS


1. Rockets vs. 8. Timberwolves
2. Warriors vs. 7. Spurs
3. Blazers OR Jazz vs. Thunder OR Pelicans
4. Blazers OR Thunder vs. 5. Pelicans OR Jazz

West No. 1 seed: Houston Rockets (65-16)

This was locked in before the night.
West No. 2 seed: Golden State Warriors (58-24)

This was locked in before the night.
West No. 3 seed: Winner of Portland Trail Blazers (48-33) vs. Utah Jazz (48-33)

They play each other at 10:30 p.m. ET. This is relatively simple.
West No. 4 seed: Trail Blazers, or Oklahoma City Thunder (48-34)

THE BLAZERS ARE THE NO. 4 SEED IF: They lose AND the Spurs lose to the Pelicans. Oklahoma City’s result doesn’t matter because Portland has the tiebreaker.

THE THUNDER ARE THE NO. 4 SEED IF: They win AND the Blazers win. The Spurs-Pelicans result is irrelevant because Oklahoma City wins the three-team tiebreaker over Utah and San Antonio.
West No. 5 seed: Jazz or New Orleans Pelicans (48-34)

THE JAZZ ARE THE NO. 5 SEED IF: They lose AND the Thunder win. The Spurs-Pelicans game is irrelevant because Utah wins the three-team tiebreaker over San Antonio and New Orleans.

THE PELICANS ARE THE NO. 5 SEED IF: They win AND the Blazers lose. Oklahoma City’s victory means Utah must win for New Orleans to get this high.
West No. 6 seed: Thunder or Pelicans

THE THUNDER ARE THE NO. 6 SEED IF: They win AND the Jazz win.

THE PELICANS ARE THE NO. 6 SEED IF: They win AND the Blazers win.
West No. 7 seed: San Antonio Spurs (47-35)

San Antonio lost badly to the Pelicans in New Orleans and saw their seed drop when Oklahoma City beat Memphis as expected.

West No. 8 seed: Minnesota Timberwolves (47-35)

They won an OT thriller vs. the Nuggets to make the playoffs for the first time in 12 years. They could have moved up had New Orleans or Oklahoma City lost, but they did not.
West No. 9 seed: Denver Nuggets (46-36)

Poor Denver.
Next Up In NBA

The Timberwolves are back in the playoffs for the 1st time since 2004

Here are the NBA playoff matchups and scenarios as the last night of the season continues: https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2018/4/11/17226494/nba-playoffs-2018-scenarios-seeds-last-game-season

Teo9969
04-11-2018, 11:16 PM
I'd actually rather play the Jazz on the road because I think the 1st 2 games are going to be a split regardless of where we play. I'd rather have games 3/4 at Home. I think we can/should win the series either way, but I think we're probably looking at a 7 game series as the 4 seed, but feel like we would have closed it out in 6 as the 6 seed.

However, I'd rather face Houston than Golden State in the 2nd round because I think there is a chance to beat Houston.

Unless the Thunder come out and walk away with Round 1 in 5 or less, I don't think there's really any reason to believe that we'll push the Rockets or Warriors very far (barring injuries).

Anonymous.
04-12-2018, 08:11 AM
First game is Sunday @ 5:30pm in OKC.

Urbanized
04-14-2018, 10:08 AM
https://www.theringer.com/nba-playoffs/2018/4/13/17232206/best-worst-case-west-playoffs-nba

Laramie
04-14-2018, 01:07 PM
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Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Utah Jazz

Sun, Apr 15 vs Utah 7:30 PM TNT

Wed, Apr 18 vs Utah 7:00 PM NBATV

Sat, Apr 21 @ Utah 9:00 PM ESPN

Mon, Apr 23 @ Utah 9:30 PM TNT

If necessary:


Wed, Apr 25 vs Utah TBA
Fri, Apr 27 @ Utah TBA
Sun, Apr 29 vs Utah TBA


http://www.abetterlifeokc.com/clientuploads/blog/ChesapeakeArenaDSC_5600.jpg

Chesapeake Energy Arena: 100 W Reno Ave, Oklahoma City, OK 73102

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Vivint Smart Home Arena: 301 S Temple, Salt Lake City, UT 84101

Urbanized
04-14-2018, 06:05 PM
https://sports.yahoo.com/important-postseason-russell-westbrooks-career-184723688.html

Bellaboo
04-14-2018, 09:17 PM
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Oklahoma City Thunder vs. Utah Jazz

Sun, Apr 15 vs Utah 7:30 PM TNT

Wed, Apr 18 vs Utah 7:00 PM NBATV

Sat, Apr 21 @ Utah 9:00 PM ESPN

Mon, Apr 23 @ Utah 9:30 PM TNT

If necessary:


Wed, Apr 25 vs Utah TBA
Fri, Apr 27 @ Utah TBA
Sun, Apr 29 vs Utah TBA


http://www.abetterlifeokc.com/clientuploads/blog/ChesapeakeArenaDSC_5600.jpg

Chesapeake Energy Arena: 100 W Reno Ave, Oklahoma City, OK 73102

https://www.nowplayingutah.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/www.nowplayingutah.com/images/2016/04/vivintarenacropped.jpg

Vivint Smart Home Arena: 301 S Temple, Salt Lake City, UT 84101

The first game is at 5:30 pm.

Laramie
04-14-2018, 10:59 PM
The first game is at 5:30 pm.

Thanks, for the correction Bellaboo. Now I can make the Dodgers' 2:05 p.m. game tomorrow afternoon @The Brick.

Laramie
04-15-2018, 09:47 PM
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Oklahoma City Thunder 116 - Utah Jazz 108

Box score: http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401029438

sooner88
04-15-2018, 11:29 PM
We looked as good as we good have expected tonight. PG won't score 36, but he found his rhythm at the right time. The crowd was electric. Mitchell played great in his rookie debut, but, unsurprisingly, Rubio played nervous... 7th year and first playoff game. Hopefully Adams isn't hurt from his dunk and PG's contusion is minimal. We overwhelmed the Jazz and look like the team we've been waiting for all year.

Teo9969
04-15-2018, 11:41 PM
Gotta shore up the defense on lane drivers. I feel like Utah made a classic "rookie" mistake of getting out of their game early on. They played the transition game way too much and it got them out of rhythm. This will be a tougher series for Oklahoma City as Utah finds long stretches where they control the pace. I don't really see Utah winning a game with both teams scoring over 100 points.

Overall, OKC did what they needed to to win. I hope they can continue to see the Big 4 play under 40 minutes for the rest of this series.

Laramie
04-15-2018, 11:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCqpEfFLZV4

Anonymous.
04-16-2018, 08:56 AM
Skip Bayless is calling OKC for the championship over Philly. That would be a historic playoff run, but I want to believe.

I watched the Houston/Minnesota game last night and feel slightly better about playing the Rockets if it comes to it.

Urbanized
04-16-2018, 09:15 AM
1. Skip Bayless is a buffoon and the kiss of death

2. I’m personally furious that he said this because I’ve yet to see him make a prophetic or particularly insightful pick, and I’d hate for credibility of any type to come to him via a Thunder championship. He has been nothing but a detractor since this team arrived.

Laramie
04-16-2018, 11:36 AM
https://i2.wp.com/thunderdigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/meltdown.jpg?w=1460
Utah Jazz Game 1 Meltdown 4.15.18

Excerpts:


We’re straight up embarrassing OKC.
Ahh Crymelo throwing up a brick, takes me back. Lol this is a poor excuse for a super team.
Jazz are staying in it but the worrisome part is they are playing at OKC’s tempo
Looking at Westbrick ‘s face makes me feel like I have diarrhea
Get Adams in foul trouble. Go at him. Every ****ing possession.
Paul George needs to start missing again… I don’t like this Paul George.
Bull ****! Call it on Westbrook then, his was intentional.
The thunder arena with the stupid cop sound ever single time there is a foul is aids.
How are we not down 30+
**** pg13
Thunder make everything or get the rebound.
I’m not an Adams fan at all but he is tougher than Gobert and Favors.


Link: http://thunderdigest.com/2018/04/15/utah-jazz-game-1-meltdown-4-15-18/

Laramie
04-16-2018, 12:20 PM
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Kudos to the Thunder organization for the coordinated T-shirt crowds and Rumble opening drum beat rally. Didn't use to see this in the NBA until Oklahoma City entered the league & the playoffs.

NBA franchises seem to be following our lead.

Toronto Raptors:


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John
04-16-2018, 05:28 PM
Kudos to the Thunder organization for the coordinated T-shirt crowds and Rumble opening drum beat rally. Didn't use to see this in the NBA until Oklahoma City entered the league & the playoffs.

NBA franchises seem to be following our lead.


Mascot wise, we've been very lucky in our short NBA tenure, having both Hugo and Rumble (nee Squatch), who were/are two of the most innovative/respected/well-compensated individuals in their line of work...

Roger S
04-17-2018, 08:59 AM
Skip Bayless is calling OKC for the championship over Philly. That would be a historic playoff run, but I want to believe.


You lost me at Skip Bayless.

Laramie
04-18-2018, 10:07 PM
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Utah Jazz 102 - Oklahoma City Thunder 95

Box score: http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401029440

G.Walker
04-19-2018, 12:00 AM
We lost this game at the free throw line 23-12. Also, PG13 going 6-21 ain't gone cut it. The Thunder team is day & night, but they have been like that all season, not surprised.

Anonymous.
04-19-2018, 08:19 AM
We basically played without Adams and he was cooking 4-5. Refs completely removed him and changed this game. That's just how it goes sometimes. I think they will come out hitting heavy in G3.

dcsooner
04-19-2018, 08:36 AM
Lost because we have no real offensive identity, isolation play abounded with really poor shot selection. Where is Ennis when you need him?

dankrutka
04-19-2018, 10:40 AM
OKC’s big 3 were 0/14 in the 4th and shot terribly. Overall, the shots were fine. It was just a night where they didn’t fall. No need to panic. Enes couldn’t even stay on the floor against half the playoff teams in the West because he’s such a vulnerability on defense.

Urbanized
04-19-2018, 10:47 AM
^^^^^^^
Agreed on all counts. Absolutely love Enes as an individual, a representative of a city, as a teammate, as an offensive rebounder and scorer in the paint, but legitimate chance he would have been on bench most or all of last night’s game. Utah’s bigs would have FEASTED on his defense.

shawnw
04-19-2018, 12:13 PM
I guess Playoff P wasn't invited to game 2

dankrutka
04-19-2018, 12:13 PM
The big problem with Enes' defense wasn't his post defense, but his inability to guard in space. Teams have been really aggressive about getting him in a pick and roll and then attacking him. Now, having said that, Melo presents some of the same limitations and we have seen some teams target and attack him. It'll be interesting if Melo gets played off the floor at times. We already know Enes would have.

Urbanized
04-19-2018, 02:24 PM
Yeah, Melo needs for his shots to drop. Or more precisely the Thunder needs for Melo's shots to stop dropping. He can still be a great asset, but ONLY if he's scoring. He has definitely stepped up his perimeter defensive intensity the past two games but he's getting rolled when his assignment pulls him in the lane.

kswright29
04-20-2018, 08:19 PM
Too bad we didn't have the crew from the Pacers -Cavs game tonight. They are flat-out letting them play, just the way it should be come playoff time. None of that ticky-tack garbage we saw the other night.

dankrutka
04-21-2018, 11:28 PM
First, all OKC needs is one of the two games in Utah so if OKC can get the next game then they're still in an okay spot. But, Russ seems completely rattled by Gobert. He's scared and getting completely destroyed by Rubio. If OKC goes down and loses PG, Russ has no one but himself to blame. Second, Donovan deserves a lot of scrutiny. I don't mind his game plan, but his team is completely inconsistent and I blame it at least partially on his inability to generate any consistency during the regular season. The way the team melted down tonight is reminiscent of a team with poor habits and players who do not believe in the system. How often is OKC swinging the ball around the perimeter in the 1st quarter and then that disappears as the game goes on? That's on the coach... and probably Russ. Losing is one thing, getting blown out is another. Remember, the West teams in OKCs realm -- Portland, Utah, NOLA -- were all expected to be well worse than OKC. There's no question this team is underperforming. I'm not saying Donovan should be fired, but I think he's been exposed a bit. Or, Russ has been exposed. OKC has lacked offensive consistency through Brooks and Donovan... Russ is the consistent piece to the offensive problems. Of course, Adams foul trouble doesn't help... but Gobert is just so, so good. Anyway, this is my frustrated steam-of-consciousness post. Now, let's see if Russ and Donovan can prove me wrong.

Again, get game 4 and we're back in it.

Jake
04-21-2018, 11:43 PM
This team has so many issues.

Really disappointed in Westbrook. Don't know if he can lead a team to a title by being the number one guy.

Teo9969
04-21-2018, 11:52 PM
Russ is a great player, but he's simply not consistent enough to lead a team to greatness by himself. Someone else has to step up as well. While PG13 is supposed to, he's only been okay in OKC - obviously a Top 10-20 player in the league, but mainly because he's such a great defender. They need him to be able to take over a game.

This is just not a great matchup for OKC because they don't have the perimeter shooting to keep Gobert from absolutely abusing the glass.

Teo9969
04-22-2018, 12:05 AM
First, all OKC needs is one of the two games in Utah so if OKC can get the next game then they're still in an okay spot. But, Russ seems completely rattled by Gobert. He's scared and getting completely destroyed by Rubio. If OKC goes down and loses PG, Russ has no one but himself to blame. Second, Donovan deserves a lot of scrutiny. I don't mind his game plan, but his team is completely inconsistent and I blame it at least partially on his inability to generate any consistency during the regular season. The way the team melted down tonight is reminiscent of a team with poor habits and players who do not believe in the system. How often is OKC swinging the ball around the perimeter in the 1st quarter and then that disappears? That's on the coach... and probably Russ. Losing is one thing, getting blown out is another. Remember, the West teams in OKCs realm -- Portland, Utah, NOLA -- were all expected to be well worse than OKC. There's no question this team is dramatically underperforming. I'm not saying Donovan should be fired, but I think he's been exposed as a mediocre coach at best. Or, Russ has been exposed as a good, not great, player. OKC has lacked offensive consistency through Brooks and Donovan... Russ is the consistent piece. Of course, Adams foul trouble doesn't help... but Gobert has made it obvious that he's a better player than Adams. Anyway, this is my frustrated steam-of-consciousness post. Now, let's see if Russ and Donovan can prove me wrong.

Again, get game 4 and we're back in it.

I have been a big fan of Billy's tinkering because I always felt like it was such a large part of the success that OKC found in the 2016 playoffs. I think that probably more now than I did back then, but I think maybe there's a caveat that perhaps I never acknowledged before: That 2015/16 team had Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka who were at the time in their 8th season together and had established a certain style of play together. The tinkering was a great idea because it allowed everyone to learn all the nuances of play together.

This team however hadn't played crap together before this year - you can tell there is just no real identity even if there are several things that they do really well. If the Thunder somehow manage to keep PG13, I think next year will be better for this year's coaching. But that's a silly move considering PG13's staying here probably depends very much on whether or not the Thunder can have at least two quality series in the playoffs.

Laramie
04-22-2018, 09:55 AM
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Utah Jazz 115 - Oklahoma City Thunder 102

Box score: http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401029445

Anonymous.
04-22-2018, 10:22 PM
This matchup is so bad for OKC. I would have rather drawn literally any other West team except the Rockets. Golden State knew exactly what they were doing when they lost to the Jazz by like 40. Hardest road.

dankrutka
04-23-2018, 04:33 PM
I have been a big fan of Billy's tinkering because I always felt like it was such a large part of the success that OKC found in the 2016 playoffs. I think that probably more now than I did back then, but I think maybe there's a caveat that perhaps I never acknowledged before: That 2015/16 team had Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka who were at the time in their 8th season together and had established a certain style of play together. The tinkering was a great idea because it allowed everyone to learn all the nuances of play together.

This team however hadn't played crap together before this year - you can tell there is just no real identity even if there are several things that they do really well. If the Thunder somehow manage to keep PG13, I think next year will be better for this year's coaching. But that's a silly move considering PG13's staying here probably depends very much on whether or not the Thunder can have at least two quality series in the playoffs.

Great post. My big problem is that the playoffs are here and two players OKC really needs to contribute -- Alex Abrines and Patrick Patterson -- have never gained any comfort in their roles. I mean, we went through an entire season and Billy never established clear roles for them. Now, he rolls out a lineup with these guys to increase shooting and just expects them to play comfortably. Again, Billy's tinkering worked in 2016, but it failed last year and, so far, it's falling short this year. We need a coach to find a middle ground between Scott Brooks' stubbornness and Billy's tinkering.

Jersey Boss
04-23-2018, 06:42 PM
The problem here is Russell Westbrook. For the last two games he has not even been the second best guard, in fact being the third best. To then get into the post game and claim he can take care of Rubio is feeding into the typical fans claim this team has the ability to turn it off and on at will. Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. If Russ is guaranteeing this for game 4, why did he not do it in game 2 or 3?
As far as PG, why would the ownership group think it is a good investment to not only increase the payroll but increase the payroll tax as well. What has this team showed this year that would warrant this? Melo will be here, another year older and while Russell is a freak on what he does physically, he just does not seem to be accumulating the knowledge of a superstar. The great ones compensate with cunning as they age, I don't see RW showing any promise in that department. Some claim that the team just needs more time together, but I look at Houston, Indiana and they don't seem to have the need for a year of aging. Russell is a stat collector and I don't see him having the smarts to lead a team to get a championship. Should OKC lose this series they are the biggest disappointment in the league as far as what the expectations were based on the talent of the roster.

Thomas Vu
04-23-2018, 07:19 PM
What has the defense been giving Rubio? In the regular season/past in general it would say to leave him open and let him shoot. One game being hot you could throw up to luck, two games though? It's really odd though if they keep leaving him open that they didn't decide at some point to take him seriously.

What looks really odd is that Utah looks like they have no depth. Their bench doesn't even hit 20 the last two games.

Anonymous.
04-23-2018, 07:31 PM
Russ needs to attack and get Gobert out of the game like they have done to Adams. It is the only chance we have unless we have another red-hot PG, which is like western Oklahoma getting rain.

dankrutka
04-23-2018, 09:38 PM
As far as PG, why would the ownership group think it is a good investment to not only increase the payroll but increase the payroll tax as well. What has this team showed this year that would warrant this? \

I fully agreed with your first paragraph and completely disagreed with your second paragraph. If you can get a top 20 NBA player, you get him. PG is absolutely worth the price. OKC has things to figure out, but you want PG. There is absolutely no question about it.

Russ is still really good. Let's not go off the deep end. But he has real limitations that show up at times. But, take a look around these playoffs... or a look back at past ones, he's neither the only one and this also not the way he always plays. I think Gobert has really disrupted Russ' game and he's just missed everything from the midrange.

Anonymous.
04-23-2018, 10:50 PM
Well Russ has shut down Rubio. But he is getting the BS call treatment that Adams has gotten the last two games. Russ with 4 personals in the first half and PG and Adams both playing with Techs with the chippiest game so far.

Same old thing. Just a different player being removed from OKC with garbage calls.

Teo9969
04-23-2018, 11:02 PM
I can't believe Melo is going to make $25M next year...absolutely crushing.

Teo9969
04-23-2018, 11:13 PM
This is basically why I didn't want home court advantage --- this team was destined to split the 1st 2 games whether they played last year's Warriors squad at full force or the 2015 Brooklyn Nets.

dankrutka
04-23-2018, 11:28 PM
I can't believe Melo is going to make $25M next year...absolutely crushing.

It's not really crushing except to the owners. If OKC cuts his $25 million in salary it frees up almost no space. But it's almost unfathomable how bad he is. He's gone from a star to an a good scorer to a fringe NBA player so quickly. The bigger thing is that coaches struggle not to play former stars. Melo should be a situational 20 minute per game player at this point in his career. But he's treated like a star.

Anonymous.
04-23-2018, 11:36 PM
Oh man. This is just a full blown spiral now. Melo is getting destroyed on both ends and he is wide open.

Also I really like how we finally have Adams in the game, but nothing is going through him. Is Donovan even trying right now? Remove the corpse of Anthony off the floor, for the love of god.

dankrutka
04-23-2018, 11:37 PM
So, in short, here's the problem:

- Russ < Rubio (in his first playoffs)
- PG < Mitchell ( a rookie)
- Adams < Gobert
- Melo < anyone on the court
- Snyder < Donovan

Literally, OKC have lost all these match ups thus far. PG and Russ can't get outplayed like this. I do wonder if Russ has some kind of shoulder injury because his shot looks uncomfortable. Several of Russ' fouls were weak calls, but Russ is still too emotionally immature. He was playing awful team defense in trying to prove his manhood against Rubio. Instead, he was completely neglecting his weakside defensive responsibilities. Russ has to be more mature and play smart basketball. We've excused Russ' immaturity for years, but if he's going to be a leader then he really has to have more composure. PG let Ingles get in his head too. And then all this immaturity showed up as the team looked like it quit when things went bad. Why were Russ and PG in the game towards the end when they were just getting into scrums? Which leads me to Donovan's many failures...

Donovan couldn't get his team to prevent wide open threes off a pick and roll. It just happened over and over again. In the 4th quarter of a playoff game, Melo led OKC in minutes... that shows that Donovan is either a bad coach or unable to make tough decisions. Either way, Melo should not be playing this many minutes. He truly hurts the team when he's on the floor with the way he's playing. I said this earlier in the thread, but Abrines, Patterson, and maybe even Huestis could help this team, but you can't ask them to do so in the playoffs without developing consistent roles all year. Abrines especially should have a role on this team, but Donovan toyed with him all season. His tinkering is looking more and more like a flash in the pan with a veteran team.

It's depressing that I'm writing this at the beginning of the 4th quarter .

Having said all that, I'm still planning on driving up from Texas for game 5. Let's get the crowd behind this team and see if they can figure something out.

Teo9969
04-24-2018, 12:14 AM
At this point, since we decided to not move players at the trade deadline the Thunder need to do two things:

1. Do just about whatever is necessary to sign George. If that means fire Donovan, you fire Donovan. If that means stretch Melo, you stretch Melo. If that means trade Adams, you probably need to do that (since you can actually get value for him).

I think they need to do everything they can to convince George into a 3-year max, with options in 2nd and 3rd year. You need to convince him that this 1st season with Russ was never going to be easy and you really need to convince him that this is still his best chance to compete through the rest of his prime.

2. I think you need to sign Grant no matter the cost - he's on the brink of being that incredible jewel that Presti found. Another year of hard work and I think he can become a viable starter at the 4 and win a 6th man in the next 3 years.

But if I have to be honest -- I actually think this is all about to come apart and we're going to see Allen Iverson 2.0 for the next 4 years of Russ's contract while the league passes us by. I just don't see Westbrook getting the mental part down until his body has already left him. He'll have to literally be a different person. I honestly think Westbrook's only hope is if MJ and Kobe sit him down and retool his mind. That's not happening.

Jake
04-24-2018, 12:20 AM
I thought this team was built for the playoffs?

Teo9969
04-24-2018, 12:31 AM
I thought this team was built for the playoffs?

To be sure, we drew the absolutely worse team we could draw for ourselves. Utah is actually a really good team. They'll probably lose in 5, or an easy 6 to the Rockets, but that's just because the Rockets are going to drain threes around them all series long. Any other non-GSW team in the league and I think Utah would have a great shot to come out on top.

But honestly, if Curry can make it back in the next 10 days, they will get a chance to come out of a nice little 6 or 7 game series with the Pelicans just in time to oil up the machine and then blitz Houston and whoever makes it out of the trash heap in the East.

Laramie
04-24-2018, 01:19 AM
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Utah Jazz 113 - Oklahoma City Thunder 96

Box score: http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=401029450

Urbanized
04-24-2018, 08:48 AM
The Melo deal is looking incredibly tough in the rear view, for certain.

Anonymous.
04-24-2018, 09:11 AM
Donovan is probably fired next week. Anthony has done nothing except stunt Grant's growth. Donovan should have been fired back in February and we may have had a chance @ something other than this horrendous offense. It took one of our guys hitting 8/11 threes to beat the Jazz @ home. Otherwise this is a Blazers/Pels sweep.

What is up with Abrines not getting any minutes? I mean at least he tries and has a chance on defense. He wasn't doing too badly @ the end while he was on Mitchell.

Watch we are going to lose Grant this off season and he will go somewhere and be a huge contributor - just like every Thunder player that leaves.

thunderupokc
04-24-2018, 09:54 AM
We are going to win this series FYI

Jersey Boss
04-24-2018, 10:50 AM
If Donovan is let go, Presti should follow him out. It wasn't Donovan who brought in Melo and it wasn't the ownership group that brought in Donovan.