Probably Dallas. But since they are not going to build another HQ, it is just going to be Arlington, VA and the offices they are building in Nashville.

yep. sounds like they are just going to go with Virginia and maybe expand it some... and then also expand the new distro hub in Nashville

And so it appears that the squeaky voiced, high-pitch Fashionista is more effective than she looks.

ETA: Surprising that Jeff would allow a Rookie Congresswoman to push his company around so easily.

And so it appears that the squeaky voiced, high-pitch Fashionista is more effective than she looks.

ETA: Surprising that Jeff would allow a Rookie Congresswoman to push his company around so easily.

What a win she lost queens 40,000 jobs and 27 billion in tax revenue. Congrats

And so it appears that the squeaky voiced, high-pitch Fashionista is more effective than she looks.

ETA: Surprising that Jeff would allow a Rookie Congresswoman to push his company around so easily.

Doesn't sound like he did. Took his ball and went home.

What a win she lost queens 40,000 jobs and 27 billion in tax revenue. Congrats

So you think there would've been no negative things that would've happened in tandem with those (and might not even balance out the jobs/tax revenue increase)? It was just all happy balloons (jobs) and rainbows (tax revenue increase)?

What a win she lost queens 40,000 jobs and 27 billion in tax revenue. Congrats

this neoliberal s$#% has to end at some point.

Lol. NYC will be fine...

Lol. NYC will be fine...

and Virginia should be in even better shape... as well as Nashville. they will be getting some more new jobs out of this

TheTravellers- you're spot on. Only problem is that this is 2019. Now a successful deal is based on how many jobs are created. Who cares if you have to sell your soul to get It, as long as you get it (sad).

and Virginia should be in even better shape... as well as Nashville. they will be getting some more new jobs out of this

Absolutely. Especially in Nashville where 15 an hour will actually do some good for workers there.

Absolutely. Especially in Nashville where 15 an hour will actually do some good for workers there.

I seriously doubt many people at a corporate campus for Amazon would be making 15 an hour. Maybe those at the bottom.

I believe the average salary for the HQ jobs is over $150K.

What a win she lost queens 40,000 jobs and 27 billion in tax revenue. Congrats

Have you been to Queens? I'm sure they'll be fine.

https://newsok.com/article/5624166/okc-council-approves-incentives-for-amazon

https://newsok.com/article/5624166/okc-council-approves-incentives-for-amazon

Always good to see us help out struggling local businesses keep up with government subsidized outside interests.

Always good to see us help out struggling local businesses keep up with government subsidized outside interests.
+1

Always good to see us help out struggling local businesses keep up with government subsidized outside interests.
Struggling because although employment number is relatively high, $7.00 hr fast food jobs don't allow for too much disposable
income. Now an additional 1,500 people earning $12-$15 hour may allow many to support local business more than they could at a lower wage.

https://newsok.com/article/5624166/okc-council-approves-incentives-for-amazon

What is the point of giving them money after they are mostly finished with the building? Are they going to decide to thrown in the towel and not come here if they didn't get the money?

What is the point of giving them money after they are mostly finished with the building? Are they going to decide to thrown in the towel and not come here if they didn't get the money?

They probably built on promise of receiving said money. This amount sounds very familiar, like it was talked about when they started building.

Yes, this was reported months ago. The council approval was just a formality.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/go-back-to-work-outcry-over-deaths-on-amazons-warehouse-floor/ar-AAIY7rF?ocid=spartandhp

seems to be picking at straws to me. Sudden workplace deaths happen everyday .I suspect the ratio/ percentage of deaths happening at Amazon are consistent with other large employers. Sometimes the big guy on the block is just easier to criticize.

seems to be picking at straws to me. Sudden workplace deaths happen everyday .I suspect the ratio/ percentage of deaths happening at Amazon are consistent with other large employers. Sometimes the big guy on the block is just easier to criticize.

That is not what I took away from the article posted. Yes, work place deaths occur everday. What I took away was yhe indifference shown to this worker in getting prompt medical attention verses the hyper scrutiny shown when the worker makes an error in putting the wrong product in a bin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-amazon-effect-is-flooding-a-struggling-recycling-system-with-cardboard/ar-BBXDnjI?ocid=spartandhp

This one is funny.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/you-might-be-buying-trash-on-amazon-literally/ar-BBY5y1A?ocid=spartandhp

Amazon will soon have 6 facilities in OKC (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=708-Amazon-will-soon-have-6-facilities-in-OKC)

As we were first to report, Amazon is planning another 1 million square foot distribution center (https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=45881) just north of the 2.5 million facility they opened last summer.


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New Amazon delivery center (DOK3) at McArthur and SW 44th


Now, the largest retailer in the world is in the process of opening two more delivery facilities, one in Southwest Oklahoma City and the other near Tinker Air Force Base.

An existing smaller delivery warehouse is located at I-35 and Hefner.

The two new locations will be 121,700 square feet at SW 44th and MacArthur and a 146,000 operation at 6801 S. Air Depot.


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New Amazon delivery center (DOK4) at 6801 S. Air Depot


The primary role of the delivery stations is to sort packages for outbound routes to enable 'last mile' delivery to customers within a defined urban area. Deliveries are generally performed by multiple local courier companies that are contracted by Amazon to service specific routes and also by independent Amazon drivers.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/amazonfull99b.jpg


When added to the Sortation Center that opened in 2019, that brings the Amazon Oklahoma City total to six facilities built or planned, all in the last two years.

Amazon also operates one distribution center and one delivery center in Tulsa.

Combined, the facilities in Oklahoma City will provide fast delivery of online orders. Amazon Prime members can expect most items in two days with next day delivery increasingly available.

The Seattle-based company is now one of the largest non-government employers in Central Oklahoma, soon to have almost employ approximately 3,500 workers.


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/amazon072420ib.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/amazon072420j.jpg


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Amazon distribution centers near Will Rogers Airport


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Amazon sortation center (OKC5)

That’s pretty impressive that they are already becoming one of the largest employers in central Oklahoma.

Every morning I see Amazon trucks leaving a facility near 33rd & Kelley in Edmond, but I don't see that on the map. Do you know if that's just a vehicle storage place or another delivery center?

I think you mean 3400 S. Kelly which is home to Petra Industries, a wholesaler.

They provide drop-ship orders (mainly electronics) for Amazon and several others including Target and Walmart.

Fun fact: that warehouse was built and used by TG&Y.

I think you mean 3400 S. Kelly which is home to Petra Industries, a wholesaler.

They provide drop-ship orders (mainly electronics) for Amazon and several others including Target and Walmart.

Fun fact: that warehouse was built and used by TG&Y.

The Amazon vans all park at the far east end of the parking lot. I assumed they were just using that as a secure location to park at night.

I'm sure those vans are running items to the fulfillment center all day.

I'm sure those vans are running items to the fulfillment center all day.

I don't know... there are dozens that leave every morning between 7 and 8, and they head east on 33rd. Some turn south on Broadway, some head east on 33rd, and I've seen a few head north on Broadway. I don't think they'd use their branded, small delivery-size trucks to run material from Petra down to the fulfillment center - they'd use larger trucks? I think I've seen space for lease type signs on the Petra building, I wonder if Amazon has some space rented there for now as well?

I don't know... there are dozens that leave every morning between 7 and 8, and they head east on 33rd. Some turn south on Broadway, some head east on 33rd, and I've seen a few head north on Broadway. I don't think they'd use their branded, small delivery-size trucks to run material from Petra down to the fulfillment center - they'd use larger trucks? I think I've seen space for lease type signs on the Petra building, I wonder if Amazon has some space rented there for now as well?

May be going to one of the delivery centers; there is one at I-35 and Hefner.

I know for a fact that Petra does a lot of business with Amazon.

I don't know... there are dozens that leave every morning between 7 and 8, and they head east on 33rd. Some turn south on Broadway, some head east on 33rd, and I've seen a few head north on Broadway. I don't think they'd use their branded, small delivery-size trucks to run material from Petra down to the fulfillment center - they'd use larger trucks? I think I've seen space for lease type signs on the Petra building, I wonder if Amazon has some space rented there for now as well?

It just seems like it’s a hub for Edmonds deliveries, over the Petra package collectors. Looks like a fed ex, ups center when their drivers all leave en mass

It just seems like it’s a hub for Edmonds deliveries, over the Petra package collectors. Looks like a fed ex, ups center when their drivers all leave en mass

Yes, as I said, they drop-ship small electronic items for a lot of major retailers.

Amazon just launched an on-line pharmacy.

Yet another business that would be far easier through on-line and home delivery and I've already registered. Beats the heck out of having to go into a store and stand in line with a bunch of sick people.

They continue to innovate. Such an impressive company.

How did the registration go for you? It seemed buggy for me, and after each step of the signup process I had to keep choosing my profile and reentering my pin, and then it got stuck on the "looking up insurance" step. I'm thinking it's getting hit pretty hard today which is good for them, but I may have to try it again later.

I agree though... this is a great thing. Having to head to Walgreens was one of our last things we had to leave the house for, so we're definitely switching over all of our prescriptions.

Amazon just launched an on-line pharmacy.



I've been using Amazon's Pillpack for a couple of years now and love it. I take meds twice a day and each dose comes in a separate packet with a date and time on it... I never have to wonder if I took my meds because I can just look at the packet now.

Also very handy when I'm travelling because I can just strip off the number of packs I need for the days I'm gone... The only drawback is as the packs get shorter you know your getting closer to the trip ending. ;)

Amazon just launched an on-line pharmacy.

Yet another business that would be far easier through on-line and home delivery and I've already registered. Beats the heck out of having to go into a store and stand in line with a bunch of sick people.

They continue to innovate. Such an impressive company.

It would have been more impressive if they had built a stand-alone company which would be in a joint venture with Amazon - or some other maneuver which might save them from the trust busters. At some point the DOJ will seek to break-up Amazon. That time will come sooner with them branching into new fields

Mine kept prompting me to pick my profile and then ended in a "Unexpected error occurred. Please try again in a moment."

Update: eventually through trial and error I got to the insurance verification screen but then an endless loop...

Update: Had to continue without verifying insurance just to get done.

Update: Figured out the Insurance bug. I was using all four fields, so including the optional ones. As soon as I stopped inputting data into the optional fields, it went right through.

Mine kept prompting me to pick my profile and then ended in a "Unexpected error occurred. Please try again in a moment."

Yeah.. I kept getting that too. It eventually worked, and it did manage to automatically find my insurance information (sort of scary tbh), and I finally made it to where I can put in my meds.

Yes, registration was buggy but I was able to get through it.

I have been using Sam's Pharmacy but even though I'm in there frequently, it's still a pain in the butt to stand in line, get someone to help you and hope they aren't at lunch when you are there. They generally do a good job but it's not at all convenient especially when compared to just having what you need land in your mailbox.

And as it happens, my insurance just notified me that for some reason I can't use Sam's after the first of the year.


I'd rather support local businesses but I've become a huge fan of Amazon. I hope they can soon provide complete grocery needs because I have always hated going grocery shopping.

^^ I tried a couple of years ago to use the Prime/Whole Foods grocery service, and I just couldn't find enough of the stuff I needed. We've been using SHIPT for about a year though, and love it. There's an additional cost to the service, but even if I didn't feel like the convenience was worth it, I've found that I actually spend less money than I would when I did the shopping myself. It forces you to be more disciplined in your shopping and there's no risk of impulse shopping, and I still get to support local businesses (Crest).

I do get a lot of my specialty grocery shopping through Amazon already though, like the special flours I buy for my baking. I was curious, and it looks like I've placed 49 orders on Amazon over the past 3 months, so it's definitely became my main shopping outlet.

Regarding the new Amazon pharmacy...

There is no way to know what their prices are after insurance unless you have your prescriptions sent there by your doctor, which I did.

Mine came out to about $40/month where at Sam's Club I don't pay a thing.

Blue Cross Blue Shield had sent an email saying that Sam's would no longer be part of their network, but just got another one today saying that Sam's will stay, so I will continue to use them instead of paying $40 / month with Amazon.

An interesting map of the Amazon distribution centers in the US and the Amazon Prime Air facilities. I bet OKC gets APA flights before too many years being near the runway at the airport.

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I don't know, l can't get it to work, either. It's on google under Amazon Prime Facilities. It's a dot map showing the locations of Amazon distribution and Air Prime facilities. OKC is one of the larger cities for # of facilities as of the time the map was made. I just speculate fhey wouldn't have put a facility with easy runway access if they didn't see the need for air access sometime in the future.

If the leadership in this city was smart, they would make a full court press to Amazon about making a huge presence in this city. Perhaps a mini headquarters along the Cotton Mill site that would had retail and residential. I would literally build them their own terminal at WRWA and try attracting some FedEX as well. If we built them new terminals there, the sky is the limit as far as more routes opening up with direct flights, which will in turn attract more businesses looking to re-locate. North Texas is literally exploding with businesses re-locating and we should ride their coat tails and do the same and promote OKC. I am telling you, if we could change our mentality and doing something big, it could lead to great growth and changes in this city for the better. We have so much land to offer some great deals, and our airport is screaming for major expansion. Our leadership failed us miserably years ago when they rejected a DFW like airport being built here. The excuse was that we can not afford it. Well, we could have had the big hub and more like the metroplex. Now, many years later, we still say the same thing about everything, "we can't afford it" The way the state mismanages everything and neglects our education and infrastructure, nothing will ever change until we make bold decisions and make a deal some of these people can't turn down. Only then will we ever be able to catch up and compete with others. I would love to see this happen, with a rail system to go from the CBD to WRWA!

I do agree that we should do something to get more Amazon, particularly for the airport.

OKC is in a great location for many of its various facilities.

They've already built way more here than Tulsa and I agree we should be courting them to do more.

Amazon is the future.

Amazon is building their air hub out of Cincy. There's no need for them to have such a large air network out of OKC. Cincinnati is already a massive warehouse area for hundreds of large companies. OKC doesn't have that.

I get the thinking big attitude, but OKC really is a subpar city for many of the things we would all love. Sometime you just need to know you are a solid 6, and not a 10.

OKC never rejected building a DFW size hub. That is folk lore. OKC tried to get United to build a maintenance base here, United said we don't want to build in a city where our workers wouldn't want to live. Indy won the bid, spent hundreds of millions of dollars building United a hangar, United closed the base a few years afterwards.

^ Not saying that OKC is bad. It is just not a city that can support an airline hub (passenger or freight). There is not any kind of demand in our out of OKC that could make that a profitable venture.

Amazon is building their air hub out of Cincy. There's no need for them to have such a large air network out of OKC. Cincinnati is already a massive warehouse area for hundreds of large companies. OKC doesn't have that.

I get the thinking big attitude, but OKC really is a subpar city for many of the things we would all love. Sometime you just need to know you are a solid 6, and not a 10.

OKC never rejected building a DFW size hub. That is folk lore. OKC tried to get United to build a maintenance base here, United said we don't want to build in a city where our workers wouldn't want to live. Indy won the bid, spent hundreds of millions of dollars building United a hangar, United closed the base a few years afterwards.

And then MAPS was born ! As a result.

Amazon is building their air hub out of Cincy. There's no need for them to have such a large air network out of OKC. Cincinnati is already a massive warehouse area for hundreds of large companies. OKC doesn't have that.

I get the thinking big attitude, but OKC really is a subpar city for many of the things we would all love. Sometime you just need to know you are a solid 6, and not a 10.

OKC never rejected building a DFW size hub. That is folk lore. OKC tried to get United to build a maintenance base here, United said we don't want to build in a city where our workers wouldn't want to live. Indy won the bid, spent hundreds of millions of dollars building United a hangar, United closed the base a few years afterwards.

Have you been to Cincinnati? I certainly wasn't impressed the one time I went there.

Have you been to Cincinnati? I certainly wasn't impressed the one time I went there.
Boxes don't care what the city looks like or what kind of bars are downtown. Cincy is in a geographical sweet spot to serve a large population area of the country within 2 hours flight or 8 hours of driving. It has the infrastructure to support a hub so they chose it.

Have you been to Cincinnati? I certainly wasn't impressed the one time I went there.

Other than having a NFL team, a MLB team, and a wildly popular soccer team? Or the physical beauty of the surrounding areas?

Regardless, what Catch is noting is that Cincy already has a massive build-up of warehouse and logistics infrastructure which would be cost-prohibitive to replicate in OKC. Plus, in relation to labor/staffing, the Cincy MSA is about 2.1 million, whereas OKC is about 1.4 million...

I didn't realize that having 3 border to border-coast to coast Interstate highways that cross within 5 miles of each other and being smack dab in the transportation center of the lower 48 states made OKC such so subferior to a huge city like Cincinnati. What is the saying about transportation? Land, sea and air? I think Cincinnati got a head start because of sea (river), like Memphis or St. Louis did. But I would say the way of the future is land and air, and nobody has more natural access than OKC.

Oklahoma is reluctant to invest in anything big that could benefit the city and state as a whole; they don't want to take that gamble.

We need to invest more in WRWA; no less than $200 million in the next expansion that addresses Cargo flights. Get out in front of companies like WPX, who decide to invest in our central core before moving out of state.

Think big, because our state takes tiny baby steps. MAPS has been a good debt free capital source to help improve our sales tax base. We need more sales tax revenue to address our city's own infrastructure and service needs.

It's time to invest in something big that will attract out-of-state visitors and guests to improve the city & state's revenue sources and grow more city hotels to cash in on hospitality.

cincy does have airport infrastructure in that they were once a major hub. I think this is what catch is getting at, not that cincy the city is a 10 and therefore better than OKC but that cincy's airport is more close to a 10 whereas OKC is a solid 6 (and growing, organically).

I personally think OKC should think big anyway - that is how Salt Lake City (for example), and Portland got the airports and service/business base that they have. Both of these cities are around OKC's population (and OKC is bigger than SLC, and it's metro) yet both of these cities have a much larger business and air base despite being near MUCH larger cities/bases in Denver and Seattle respectfully. SLC and Portland took a shot based on THEIR advantages and they got some wins. OKC NEVER took a shot at OUR advantages, that's the point of this sub-discussion that I WISH we would change.

We need to take some shots, why not ask Amz to open a backoffice in OKC and perhaps a mini-air hub? They're building facilities, so why not capitalize on OKC's biggest advantage: the Crossroads of America (that isn't also SUPER BUSY).

Those are TWO advantages, that when combined with advantage 3 (low cost of land) and 4 (plentiful, near free for the city to give available land) not to mention advantage 5 (massive, ready aviation workforce) - it presents a huge opportunity for OKC to get "something" big.

Maybe we dont get a national Amazon hub since Cincy has that advantage already with its airport infrustructure (whereas OKC would need to be a new build), but we could get the backoffice and likely MORE flights and tertiary business than we have currently that ADDS to the business base. Maybe OKC wont ever have a Microsoft or Amazon world HQ and we'll always be an energy big HQ city and nothing else, but doesn't mean OKC shouldn't have a huge business base that could be made of smaller offices/regional HQ and backoffices which together makes OKC very competitive and employment rich just the same.

I didn't realize that having 3 border to border-coast to coast Interstate highways that cross within 5 miles of each other and being smack dab in the transportation center of the lower 48 states made OKC such so subferior to a huge city like Cincinnati. What is the saying about transportation? Land, sea and air? I think Cincinnati got a head start because of sea (river), like Memphis or St. Louis did. But I would say the way of the future is land and air, and nobody has more natural access than OKC.

That's great for trucking, hence Amazon has placed several centers which really on the interstate system. For example the oversize delivery center. Those items generally don't go on airplanes.

If you have to load it onto an airplane and fly it from one coast to the other, you might as well just fly over OKC and land it where it needs to go.

OKC has zero history of being a key city for aviation - for a reason. It's not a knock on OKC, and certainly not something to take personally. Inbound/Outbound air freight is just not OKC's thing. OKC's stellar interstate access makes it cheaper and fast to truck freight in, which makes it hard to justify paying the premium to fly it.

There is a LOT of land to fly boxes over to get any meaningful population areas except for the Dallas metro. Cincinnati can access Chicago,
Detroit, Cleveland, Atlanta, Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Nashville, Washington DC, Tampa, Orlando etc. all within a roughly 2 hours flight.

OKC can access Dallas, Denver, Houston, St Louis, Chicago, Nashville, and Atlanta. But with none of the originating cargo that Cincy has with its hundreds of distribution centers.