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^^ I think that looks really nice.

This is now one of my favorite buildings in OKC. Just an absolute bang-up job. Works so well with the district while also having it's own 21st century character.

This is now one of my favorite buildings in OKC. Just an absolute bang-up job. Works so well with the district while also having it's own 21st century character.

100%.

The Omni also turned out very nice, but this just fits Bricktown to a tee and becomes a great focal point in the dead center of the neighborhood.

Job very well done.

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Plans for the Starbucks.

This entire project should start wrapping up in the next couple of months.

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Plans for the Starbucks.

This entire project should start wrapping up in the next couple of months.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/marriott100521a.jpgMy wife tried doing a work event there in November since at one point they were saying they'd be open in late Oct. When the Sales Coordinator emailed back she said January opening now.

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Yeah, I was in a meeting with the developer some months ago and even then he was saying "October-ish." It's been pretty clear that was a soft deadline and would be influenced by many factors, which at this time in history almost certainly involves labor and materials shortages, among other things. The minute he said that I knew it was more likely closer to the end of the year.

I hosted an internal meeting yesterday at their Fairfield property and their sales manager (who will also be sales manager for the Renaissance) told us the same. January. I hate it for them that they missed the holiday bookings but that won't be the worst time of the year to get open and get the kinks worked out before they get slammed next spring and summer. Can't wait for this Bricktown game changer.

Looks amazing! Drove by it on my short visit a few weekends ago. Spectacular! Sheridan Ave is a great looking street.

For what it's worth, they're out there working on it on Sundays, too. Was surprised to see that this past weekend.

January 15th
https://twitter.com/dtOKCbuilds/status/1448322699244314630

Not all the outside LED lights are working, but I took this last night:

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I guess I missed the Starbucks news. Is this replacing their store in the Centennial building? (Asking for a friend.)

I guess I missed the Starbucks news. Is this replacing their store in the Centennial building? (Asking for a friend.)

They will coexist.

They have started installing the marble on the 1st and 2nd floors. Looks fantastic in person.

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I've heard the opening has been delayed to mid-March.

Supply chain issues are still causing huge delays for almost all projects.

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This is accurate. I spoke directly with the developer yesterday afternoon and he said it was specifically supply chain; in fact named specific materials they are waiting on and knew their location and relative logistics off the top of his head. He is still holding out hope for late February but also thinks first week of March is a possibility. They would really like to be open in time for spring break, which always packs hotels and attractions in Bricktown and downtown.

I visited with Anish and Andy Patel yesterday. They said that they are on track to open first quarter of 2022. The delay is due to supply chain and labor.

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Hmm, it's not a bad building by any means, but I'm not a fan of the shiny surfaces in combination with the brick and bricktown's vintage look. I think it actually looked a bit better before they added the grey cladding. This is a building where you can tell they didn't want any brick but just added the bare minimum to meet the local requirement.

But I'm sure the hotel is awesome and it's a great addition to the vitality of the area. With shiny surfaces, the weather can make it look different. I'll have to see it in person one of these days before I critique too much.

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It's marble and looks fantastic in person.

Hmm, it's not a bad building by any means, but I'm not a fan of the shiny surfaces in combination with the brick and bricktown's vintage look. I think it actually looked a bit better before they added the grey cladding. This is a building where you can tell they didn't want any brick but just added the bare minimum to meet the local requirement.

But I'm sure the hotel is awesome and it's a great addition to the vitality of the area. With shiny surfaces, the weather can make it look different. I'll have to see it in person one of these days before I critique too much.

Can confirm it looks great in person as well. I was actually surprised by how cool it looked.

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This looks fabulous.

I never noticed it until these last pics, but the bricked areas look like buildings on their own with the blue glass being the sky.

marble over eifs any day

Might be the quietest homerun in the last 10 years of development

Not that it makes much of a difference but I’ve looked at the material very closely - as in I’ve picked some up with my own hands - and certain that it is a ceramic tile with a marble finish rather than natural stone. No matter what it is really lovely.

Not that it makes much of a difference but I’ve looked at the material very closely - as in I’ve picked some up with my own hands - and certain that it is a ceramic tile with a marble finish rather than natural stone. No matter what it is really lovely.

It's marble tile; I took this photo today and you can see in the cross-section and the way these pieces broke:

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The first interior shot is of the Culprits space with the bar under construction; the last interior shot is of the hotel front desk.

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This has turned out so well. It looks better in person.

What a freaking gorgeous property! Can’t like this enough.

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Ah. You and I were talking about two different things. I hadn’t looked at that black material closely. Was referring to the gray material, in heavy use elsewhere on the building,

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Can stand out in the skyline from some perspectives

They were inside working away this Sunday morning, so they seem to be pressing hard to get open.

I know that this topic has been pretty dormant on the forums, but I hear they're opening pretty soon. Are there any pictures of the (ex/in)terior?

I know that this topic has been pretty dormant on the forums, but I hear they're opening pretty soon. Are there any pictures of the (ex/in)terior?

I should be taking a tour soon.

Like everyone else, they've experienced all types of supply chain delays.

I had been through a couple of weeks ago at the developer’s invitation, but got the full tour yesterday hosted by the sales and marketing director. The place is pretty special. The level of finish is VERY high. The views stand out, and there are some generous public spaces that really make the most of the location.

This is everything the Omni should have been.

This is everything the Omni should have been.While I haven't seen this in person, it looks great. But why the negativity for the Omni? The Renaissance and Omni are completely different types of properties. I've stayed at the Omni a number of times. It is a fantastic property. It brings exactly what OKC had been missing: volume, high-end on-site spa, several F&B outlets of various types. While every time we've stayed there we've also gone out and explored it also has the prospect of being completely self contained with so many offerings on-site, something no other OKC hotel has, and something we love as an option for a quick staycation. It's only negative has to do with connectivity to the rest of downtown and that's OKC's fault and will hopefully be rectified with future development.

Wow, that hotel is looking nice.

Looks like their opening has been pushed by to June.

This is everything the Omni should have been.

elaborate?

Wow, that hotel is looking nice.

Yup, at night they have all the outside LEDs on now and it really, really sticks out even whenever you just catch a glimpse. Honestly if you asked me I wouldn't describe the LED fixture as anything short of beautiful and is probably one of, if not the best in the city.

Only concerns being addressed on this board about the Omni:


1. It should have 700+ rooms
2. It should have been taller

The 182 room Bricktown Marriott Renaissance will be a nice addition to our current choice of DT area hotels.
Let's hope our new convention center can attract more events to fill the 4,150 rooms OKC will have available downtown.

This is everything the Omni should have been.

A scaled down hotel? Nice but smaller and with less services? You really want your convention hotel to be like this smaller, almost boutique, hotel?

Very nice mid-rise infill, looks great. Does anyone know the height/stories of this building?

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Only concerns being addressed on this board about the Omni:


1. It should have 700+ rooms
2. It should have been taller

...
But why? Nobody has stated a legitimate business reason for there to have been more rooms in the Omni. Seems like the only ones I hear are emotional. Preferring taller buildings or being able to brag about more rooms have absolutely zero to do with business reality.

The building is built to its current size because THAT was the correct size for the purpose; i.e. to serve the convention center. Anything more would have underperformed and required much more subsidy, and would have been a needless drain on taxpayers. Again, if you want a bigger version of Omni...get behind a convention center expansion when that time comes.

Anyhoo, back to the Bricktown Renaissance discussion.

It is a gorgeous building. Excited about the street activation of a genuine streetside Starbucks location. Trying to withhold my initial judgy reaction to the Culprits moniker. The edifice fills a giant parking crater in the middle of Bricktown and adds tasteful height to the district. The finishes are classy and urbane.

On another note, the Omni turned out very well and makes a fantastic convention hotel. Hopefully the concrete wasteland of an expanse owned by Bob Howard will be addressed soon. If they were to build high-rise residential with street-level retail / restaurants there it would obviously make the Omni less orphaned in the downtown ecosystem.

All of these developments will feed streetcar ridership as well. More apartments, more hotels, more restaurants, more people will make the utility and value of the streetcar more obvious as time goes on.

elaborate?

Exterior design is all I was referring to. The Omni might as well be the County Jail when coming from the east.

Exterior design is all I was referring to. The Omni might as well be the County Jail when coming from the east.
So, you’ll be glad to know that side will be greatly obscured by the new mid rise apartments to be built soon. It was always going to be covered up.

Oh, if you’ve been to the backside of the new Renaissance you certainly won’t be impressed either.

But why? Nobody has stated a legitimate business reason for there to have been more rooms in the Omni. Seems like the only ones I hear are emotional. Preferring taller buildings or being able to brag about more rooms have absolutely zero to do with business reality.

The building is built to its current size because THAT was the correct size for the purpose; i.e. to serve the convention center. Anything more would have underperformed and required much more subsidy, and would have been a needless drain on taxpayers. Again, if you want a bigger version of Omni...get behind a convention center expansion when that time comes.

Anyhoo, back to the Bricktown Renaissance discussion.


(MSA rank)


(43) Memphis Radisson Convention Center Hotel - 800 guestrooms
(50) Birmingham Sheraton Convention Center Hotel - 757 guestrooms
(45) Louisville Omni Convention Center Hotel - 612 guestrooms
(42) Oklahoma City Omni Convention Center Hotel - 605 guestrooms


An extra 100 luxury guestrooms would put OKC in a much better position to compete with cities on our level.

Exterior design is all I was referring to. The Omni might as well be the County Jail when coming from the east.

It's the same reason why the convention center parking garage has none of the decorative elements along the north side and it is currently just a giant bland concrete wall facing the boulevard. There is another building going in on the corner and the Omni and parking garage were designed accordingly. That view coming from the east will change dramatically in the near future.

(MSA rank)


(43) Memphis Radisson Convention Center Hotel - 800 guestrooms
(50) Birmingham Sheraton Convention Center Hotel - 757 guestrooms
(45) Louisville Omni Convention Center Hotel - 612 guestrooms
(42) Oklahoma City Omni Convention Center Hotel - 605 guestrooms


An extra 100 luxury guestrooms would put OKC in a much better position to compete with cities on our level.

Are you able to show data from a conference that came here and there were not enough rooms for them in the Omni so they had to overflow to other hotels? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, legit want to know if we have data showing we got it wrong.

(MSA rank)


(43) Memphis Radisson Convention Center Hotel - 800 guestrooms
(50) Birmingham Sheraton Convention Center Hotel - 757 guestrooms
(45) Louisville Omni Convention Center Hotel - 612 guestrooms
(42) Oklahoma City Omni Convention Center Hotel - 605 guestrooms


An extra 100 luxury guestrooms would put OKC in a much better position to compete with cities on our level.MSA rank has little to do with the size of a convention property. By this standard New Orleans should have a smaller convention center and fewer hotel rooms serving it than OKC, and St. Louis, Las Vegas, and Orlando should have much small convention services than they do. This is why studies are done. To determine demand and to build to the correct size.

Are you able to show data from a conference that came here and there were not enough rooms for them in the Omni so they had to overflow to other hotels? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, legit want to know if we have data showing we got it wrong.

You know its way too early for that.

More rooms would put OKC in a better position to compete. We're in early recover from the pandemic. You want OKC to be in a position to compete with cities of its MSA size.

MSA rank has little to do with the size of a convention property. By this standard New Orleans should have a smaller convention center and fewer hotel rooms serving it than OKC, and St. Louis, Las Vegas, and Orlando should have much small convention services than they do. This is why studies are done. To determine demand and to build to the correct size.

New Orleans (2000: 1,337,726) lost population after Katrina 2005. They still support NFL & NBA franchises--consider NOLA an exception.

You recall this study: https://www.oklahoman.com/story/business/columns/steve-lackmeyer/2013/12/14/study-suggests-oklahoma-city-can-support-200-million-735-room-conference-hotel/60858785007/


December 14, 2013: Two reports being delivered Tuesday to the Oklahoma City Council advise that the city can support construction of a 735-room conference hotel as part of development of a new convention center.

BTW Brianinok: What criteria would you use to make that determination...

You know its way too early for that.

More rooms would put OKC in a better position to compete. We're in early recover from the pandemic. You want OKC to be in a position to compete with cities of its MSA size.

Why is it too early to ask for data but not too early to say we got it wrong?

Why is it too early to ask for data but not too early to say we got it wrong?

Our convention center has only been open one year. Remember we're still fighting the covid pandemic.

Didn't say 'We got it wrong.' --more of a lost opportunity for the future (2023-2030). we will know more by then. On the bright size
it does open more opportunities for nearby hotels like Sheraton, Hilton-Skirvin, Wydham Grand & First National Center to offer spill-over in
available rooms if the Omni lands something really large that requires more rooms.

Also: I think you could add 400-600 rooms to make it taller or add next to the Omni on site.