Not that many special occasion places in OKC and this fits the bill very nicely, while at the same time being accessible and not too formal.

That's a fine line to walk but they seem to be doing it quite well.

We stopped here tonight for drinks before going to the symphony. It was fairly early (around 6) but they were already very busy. Just as we arrived a couple pulled up in a limo and said they were there to celebrate their anniversary. As others have said, we loved the service and the views were excellent. I think they are on track to success.

I like that! i need to stop and check it out!

Enjoyed a great meal here last night along with another couple. I'd give this place a 9.5 on a 10 point rating scale. The service as great. The food arrived in timely fashion. The food was hot which is a HUGE plus in my book. The atmosphere was nice, energetic and nice decor as well. I was very glad to see how busy it was. I made reservations for 5:30. When we left, around 7:30, there wasn't an empty chair in the entire place. I also loved being able to see the chef's hard at work through the open window area. This place should do very, very well if they can maintain such a high standard for quality and service.

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I'm glad they are already so busy.

I think we finally have a winner for this spot.

I'm here to say they're still great! I had the charcuterie board tonight (Redneck Cheddar, cranberry Stilton, salami of which pedigree I forget, dried apricots, toast points) on my maiden voyage to this space, much less the restaurant, along with half the dessert list.

The establishment is a wonderful steward of this location. I suggested opening up the "balcony" outside the windows, which was met with a hollow laugh.

Went last night for the first time in a while and had a great experience.

They've made a really important change IMO. The bar seating has been expanded all the way to the windows along the south side, which means you can now sit at a table great views of downtown and beyond.

Previously, other than for dinner, you could only sit at the bar or hi-top tables, neither of which provided much of a vantage point.

They have a more limited menu in the bar area but still lots of good choices. Had some very good appetizers (calamari, charcuterie and flatbread) as well as the salmon. The latter was particularly delicious.

It's really a fantastic spot to stop in for a drink or order some food with unrivaled views of OKC. They have happy hour specials from 4 to 6.


Really a very under appreciated restaurant and spot and I hope more people will support it.

Went last night for the first time in a while and had a great experience.

They've made a really important change IMO. The bar seating has been expanded all the way to the windows along the south side, which means you can now sit at a table great views of downtown and beyond.

Previously, other than for dinner, you could only sit at the bar or hi-top tables, neither of which provided much of a vantage point.

They have a more limited menu in the bar area but still lots of good choices. Had some very good appetizers (calamari, charcuterie and flatbread) as well as the salmon. The latter was particularly delicious.

It's really a fantastic spot to stop in for a drink or order some food with unrivaled views of OKC. They have happy hour specials from 4 to 6.


Really a very under appreciated restaurant and spot and I hope more people will support it.

Have they changed anything on the menu? We ate there in April and were very underwhelmed with the food.

Went last night for the first time in a while and had a great experience.

They've made a really important change IMO. The bar seating has been expanded all the way to the windows along the south side, which means you can now sit at a table great views of downtown and beyond.

Previously, other than for dinner, you could only sit at the bar or hi-top tables, neither of which provided much of a vantage point.

They have a more limited menu in the bar area but still lots of good choices. Had some very good appetizers (calamari, charcuterie and flatbread) as well as the salmon. The latter was particularly delicious.

It's really a fantastic spot to stop in for a drink or order some food with unrivaled views of OKC. They have happy hour specials from 4 to 6.


Really a very under appreciated restaurant and spot and I hope more people will support it.

Absolutely agree! The place feels great and the food is mighty tasty. If you haven't given them a try I hope you do.

Went last night for the first time in a while and had a great experience.

They've made a really important change IMO. The bar seating has been expanded all the way to the windows along the south side, which means you can now sit at a table great views of downtown and beyond.

Previously, other than for dinner, you could only sit at the bar or hi-top tables, neither of which provided much of a vantage point.

They have a more limited menu in the bar area but still lots of good choices. Had some very good appetizers (calamari, charcuterie and flatbread) as well as the salmon. The latter was particularly delicious.

It's really a fantastic spot to stop in for a drink or order some food with unrivaled views of OKC. They have happy hour specials from 4 to 6.


Really a very under appreciated restaurant and spot and I hope more people will support it.

Folks in building tell me they are doing very well.

Folks in building tell me they are doing very well.

Glad to hear that!

Seems like they've struck the right balance as a nice place, but not stuffy or overly expensive.

Finally was able to make it to try 3Sixty for dinner last night.... They weren't real busy but it was Halloween and a Tuesday. So probably not a big night for that type of dining.

Service was great... Food was kind of all over the place.

Charcuterie board was really good. One of the cheeses was from Krebs and I really enjoyed it.

I was in the mood for comfort food so I went with the stroganoff. Maybe after being told the chef was a Le Cordon Bleu graduate I set my hopes to high. It was good, maybe just a little underseasoned, but for the price I was expecting decadent.

Wife went with the cedar plank salmon that came with a risotto. She raved about how good the salmon was but asked me to taste the risotto. Not sure what Oklahoma chefs have against risotto but this is the second one I've had (other was at Vast) that was really bad. The rice was way too al dente and the only flavor I could taste was rosemary. A lot of rosemary!

We also had the cinnamon roll bread pudding for dessert... Once again it was good but nowhere near as decadent as I expected. bread pudding is also nearly always served with a vanilla sauce and this had whipped cream on it.

View of downtown OKC was awesome. Service was on point. Food was good, except that risotto, but unfortunately not spectacular enough to make me want to go back for a $100 meal.

I really like just going to the bar area.

They have a separate, more affordable menu but do have a charcuterie board and the cedar salmon and a very good burger, along with various other appetizers.

And you can just walk in and take a seat by the window.

I really like just going to the bar area.

They have a separate, more affordable menu but do have a charcuterie board and the cedar salmon and a very good burger, along with various other appetizers.

And you can just walk in and take a seat by the window.

I enjoyed the mojito I ordered and it was served in a large glass so it lasted me the entire meal.

Now I won't disagree with you one bit that if I wanted to go have a drink and a spectacular view. This would be a place I would frequent. $8 for the size of the mojito I was served was very reasonable.... problem is that's not the kind of customer that will keep them in business.... Not that I think they are struggling.

At that price point it's more of a special occasion type place for me and my special occasion list is populated with places that I enjoy more for that price point.

Sad to report they will be closing on New Years Eve.

Sad to report they will be closing on New Years Eve.

that is really sad that place is/was really good ...

Yeah we had been going there the past few years for our office christmas party. Was packed every time we went. It's gotta be pretty tough with that space though. Sad to see it close as it was pretty unique.

Dang. I've eaten there several times and it's always been good. I suspect to hear to hear of other restaurant closings due the fact that we have such a large number of new restaurants constantly being added to OKC. I can't help but think our population cannot sustain so many eating establishments.

Wish they had done more advertising. That might have helped.

Wish they had done more advertising. That might have helped.

Absolutely.

What happens is there is a burst of press and buzz when something opens but then diners forget about you and all the while there is more and more new stuff to grab attention.

And then most do a bit on social media but that is largely preaching to the choir, not reaching the people who only went once or twice and never followed you, or never went at all.


With any business, you have to promote yourself. Too few business owners budget for this and then don't want to spend the money and effort.

Absolutely.

What happens is there is a burst of press and buzz when something opens but then diners forget about you and all the while there is more and more new stuff to grab attention.

And then most do a bit on social media but that is largely preaching to the choir, not reaching the people who only went once or twice and never followed you, or never went at all.


With any business, you have to promote yourself. Too few business owners budget for this and then don't want to spend the money and effort.

It's also knowing where to spend those marketing dollars/efforts. I feel like too many restaurants struggle to understand their identity and place in the market. Like, you don't market the same way for UrBun as you do for 3Sixty. With UrBun, you can have some success by getting someone(s) to hand out flyers with some sort of offer outside some of the busier areas of Midtown: "Grab a bite on the way home". With 3Sixty, you cold call sales offices throughout the city and tell them you'll cover an appetizer if they bring in prospective clients.

Rough examples, but I think makes the point well enough...lack self-awareness not only inhibits good marketing, it shows up all throughout your restaurant.

Wish they had done more advertising. That might have helped.

Restaurants in this town don't advertise unless they are Hal Smith or sports bars. It's a weird cultural thing. They think advertising indicates that they have failed. I would bet literally hundreds of thousands of people in OKC had no idea this restaurant even existed.

I know a lot of restaurateurs in OKC and they all seem to have this feeling about advertising. It is ridiculous.

In any business, 10% of gross should go to advertising. Minimum. These people think nothing of spending more than a million on a buildout and leave literally, like, $5,000 for advertising. No. Don't do that. Advertising and marketing are as important as the sous chef and the electric bill.

This city is getting bigger and operators need to think bigger.

Part of the problem is the incestuous nature of the industry. The same chefs and staff hop around to different establishments and continue the same methods everyone else did.

But you would think they would note their chance of failure is 50%. That is terribly risky and frightening.

They think advertising is "uncool." I get it, but going out of business with massive debt in six months is definitely uncool.

I find out about new places from this site, and of course other information in regards to the likes/issues/suggestions/gripes that go with it. More so than through advertising, which is rare as mentioned earlier

That's funny cause I see more Pearl's commercials than any Hal Smith Restaurant and they kill it!

I highly doubt "hundreds of thousands" of people in OKC (not really that big of a city) didn't know about a landmark building and restaurant existing.

That's funny cause I see more Pearl's commercials than any Hal Smith Restaurant and they kill it!

I highly doubt "hundreds of thousands" of people in OKC (not really that big of a city) didn't know about a landmark building and restaurant existing.

OKC has approximately 1.4 million people in the metro. How many of those people had ever heard about 36ixty in your opinion? I would bet there are people who frequent this site who hadn't heard of it at all.

I agree about Pearl's being a mainstay advertiser.

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if over 100,000 people in the the metro haven’t heard of 36ixty. I live exactly 1.1 miles away and we haven’t eaten there, and I wouldn’t have been able to name it off the top of my head. My wife and I went to the top when it was the nice steakhouse and I already forgot the name of that place. Like others have said, just too many new places opening up and these guys aren’t marketing enough to stay relevant.

You proved my point, you knew the restaurant and building were there. You don't have to know the name, as it liked most have changed over time.

Population 1.4 million in the metro. I didn't say anything about the suburbs or people in Mustang knowing about the place! Odd when I google the population in OKC it's less than 700K.

It's not that people don't know something exists, it's they forget about it if not reminded.

We all do this... Plan a night out and run through a quick list of suitable places. And 9 times out of 10 your forget about several places you had been meaning to try.

I actually keep a list on my phone because no matter how much I keep up with this stuff, I tend to forget about place I want to try or go back to.


Every type of business is so competitive these days you have to constantly promote yourself so you are remembered when someone may be interested.

I couldn't even remember the name of the establishment until I reread this thread. I thought it was still the George, which I also never visited. I dine out frequently throughout the city. Never went.

And no, I didn't prove your point.

You proved my point, you knew the restaurant and building were there. You don't have to know the name, as it liked most have changed over time.

Population 1.4 million in the metro. I didn't say anything about the suburbs or people in Mustang knowing about the place! Odd when I google the population in OKC it's less than 700K.

This is just ridiculous. People in the suburbs are frequent diners in OKC. But even with 700k people I would be shocked if even 100k people had heard of that restaurant, if that. Pearl's, sure. Johnnie's, sure. Cattlemen's, absolutely. Note, those places advertise.

this restaurant posted on facebook (and i have since confirmed with someone that would know) that their lease expired and they could not come to terms on a new lease ...

which is why they closed

No restaurants spend 10% of gross on advertising or should they. Rent usually isn't even that much.

For the last few years, every time I was in OKC, I ended up at 3Sixty...sometimes for dinner and sometimes just for drinks. Sad to see it closed.

maybe the next operator can bring back the rotating floor. it is still unique to have and OKC was one of the first, let's bring it back.

Besides, it's a bit weird to have a 36o name with no moving floor.

maybe the next operator can bring back the rotating floor. it is still unique to have and OKC was one of the first, let's bring it back.

Besides, it's a bit weird to have a 36o name with no moving floor.

Not going to happen, I believe the mechanism was all taken out when The George went in.

The mechanism could be put back in. Frankly I agree it should be put back in. As a gimmick and a good plan for a hit restaurant would make a killing here. The views are incredible.

The mechanism could be put back in. Frankly I agree it should be put back in. As a gimmick and a good plan for a hit restaurant would make a killing here. The views are incredible.

Just like with all your plans for flyovers, 28 lane highways, etc. - who's gonna pay for it? Nobody will pay to make it move again because it would cost way too much.

Just like with all your plans for flyovers, 28 lane highways, etc. - who's gonna pay for it? Nobody will pay to make it move again because it would cost way too much.Well, Mr. Weisenheimer, when I am actually in position to do these things, I’ll lay out a broader plan on how to pay for it. For now, I’m on a message board like everyone else here including you.

There are other cities that have these sorts of things and somehow the folks there pay for it. 28 lane highways, flyovers, and believe it or not but yet, rotating restaurants. But by all means, just shoot down those who say it can be done and continue on with your arrogant attitude. :)

That's funny cause I see more Pearl's commercials than any Hal Smith Restaurant and they kill it!

I highly doubt "hundreds of thousands" of people in OKC (not really that big of a city) didn't know about a landmark building and restaurant existing.

I'd really be shocked if even 100,000 people knew it did exist. Literally the only way I knew about it was OKCTalk. I never heard any of my coworkers talking about it, and I have several that go to similarly priced places every week.

ETA: If the floor had been rotating I would've made a point to go there. But I rarely eat at places in their price point and other's people's menu's always looked better to my Wife and I so we never went. I have eaten at three other rotating restaurants since they opened, though. I agree that I doubt anyone will make it rotate again though, it definitely seems to be a dying gimmick with many former rotating restaurants no longer spinning.

I mean technically all restaurants are rotating, it just takes them about 24 hours to do so.

Well, Mr. Weisenheimer, when I am actually in position to do these things, I’ll lay out a broader plan on how to pay for it. For now, I’m on a message board like everyone else here including you.

There are other cities that have these sorts of things and somehow the folks there pay for it. 28 lane highways, flyovers, and believe it or not but yet, rotating restaurants. But by all means, just shoot down those who say it can be done and continue on with your arrogant attitude. :)

Not an arrogant attitude, just that there is no company in OKC that would be willing to spend the money to make it rotate again, take a poll of Good Egg, 84 Hospitality, HSRG, all the other restaurant groups, anybody in the restaurant industry, and nobody will say they would/could do it, I'd bet $1000 on it. Yes, it can be done, damn near anything can be done if you throw enough money and research and people at it, but the cost to restore the rotation would in no way make enough return on the investment to make it work again, so it's never going to happen.

The Travellers,
I can't disagree with anything you said, but if it's not cost effective now how was it cost effective when it was originally built? Wasn't the first restaurant the Chandelle? I suppose the problem is having the investment capital to stay afloat long enough to pay for it and begin making a profit as a restaurant.
C. T.

The Travellers,
I can't disagree with anything you said, but if it's not cost effective now how was it cost effective when it was originally built? Wasn't the first restaurant the Chandelle? I suppose the problem is having the investment capital to stay afloat long enough to pay for it and begin making a profit as a restaurant.
C. T.

Good point, here's some info I just found about the original owner, sounds like he had enough money to spend on that kind of thing and not worry about the cost.

https://okcmod.com/2014/09/the-united-founders-tower-and-the-architecture-of-hudgins-thompson-ball-part-2/