A new year has begun.

Too reply to a post in the 2016 thread about expanding service. I too would also like New Orleans.

MSY is currently building a brand new terminal building on the north side of the airport that will expand their gate capacity. Maybe along with our airport expansion that might be an option in a few years when it is done.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2015/12/armstrong_airports_807_million.html

Too reply to a post in the 2016 thread about expanding service. I too would also like New Orleans.

MSY is currently building a brand new terminal building on the north side of the airport that will expand their gate capacity. Maybe along with our airport expansion that might be an option in a few years when it is done.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2015/12/armstrong_airports_807_million.html

Allegiant flew TUL-MSY (New Orleans) for several months last year but it didn't last long. Not sure if it was intended to be seasonal and will come back or not, but that's a potential option for OKC. There's also GLO that flies from MSY to a handful of regional cities like Little Rock, Shreveport and Memphis.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2016/03/allegiant_adds_tulsa_direct_fl.html

https://inairlinenews.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/glo_map.jpg?w=240&h=261

Glo is a cool concept. I don't think I could do OKC to MSY in a Saab 340 though, especially with the cruising speed of around 300mph instead of 500+ mph that most commercial jets do now.

Allegiant flew TUL-MSY (New Orleans) for several months last year but it didn't last long. Not sure if it was intended to be seasonal and will come back or not, but that's a potential option for OKC. There's also GLO that flies from MSY to a handful of regional cities like Little Rock, Shreveport and Memphis.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2016/03/allegiant_adds_tulsa_direct_fl.html

https://inairlinenews.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/glo_map.jpg?w=240&h=261

"Allegiant will offer twice weekly flights from Tulsa International Airport to New Orleans starting in May. The flights will run through mid-October."

That should answer that.

"Allegiant will offer twice weekly flights from Tulsa International Airport to New Orleans starting in May. The flights will run through mid-October."

That should answer that.

That makes sense, I wonder if it did well enough to bring it back this year? Seems like a viable route for OKC too though I'm sure many would prefer to see Southwest fly it.

Allegiant has carved a niche at TUL. They started with Sanford (Orlando) and Las Vegas and have expanded to LAX (filling a void where American used to fly), BWI (no Southwest competition on this route unlike in OKC) and PIE (Tampa). Interesting that they don't fly to VPS (Destin/Ft Walton Beach) from TUL but do fly there from OKC along with LAS and SFB.

Excited to see Southwest Air test a nonstop to MCO through the summer, starting 4-30-2017. It will fly on Sundays and is currently on the schedule through August.13420

Excited to see Southwest Air test a nonstop to MCO through the summer, starting 4-30-2017. It will fly on Sundays and is currently on the schedule through August.13420

Gonna try this one again, huh?. Great news! I hope it sticks around after August.

Excited to see Southwest Air test a nonstop to MCO through the summer, starting 4-30-2017. It will fly on Sundays and is currently on the schedule through August.13420

Wow I hadn't seen this. It's only going to operate on Sundays though? Thats odd.

That is odd.

Only to MCO? I wonder if it's partially just to help WN re-position aircraft.

Only to MCO? I wonder if it's partially just to help WN re-position aircraft.

Don't know the true motive, but we'll take it. :)

That is odd.


Not terribly odd. Southwest has used Saturday/Sunday only seasonal in several markets. OMA-MCO was one off the top of my head which is now year round daily. I also recall in 2008 or so, Southwest ran this service as Saturday only. It ran one season and did not return.

It's a low risk way to test the waters on an historically marginal route.

Only to MCO? I wonder if it's partially just to help WN re-position aircraft.

Doesn't appear so, as this uses 1 airplane (or the equivalent of 1 airplane). Arrives in MCO at 12:10 and return departs at 12:45. Whether or not the exact same airplane turns around and comes back I don't know, but it appears as if it may.

I think this is probably just testing the market again since the last attempt.

Doesn't appear so, as this uses 1 airplane (or the equivalent of 1 airplane). Arrives in MCO at 12:10 and return departs at 12:45. Whether or not the exact same airplane turns around and comes back I don't know, but it appears as if it may.

I think this is probably just testing the market again since the last attempt.

OK - I was basing my question by the statement that it was TO MCO. Knowing that there's also a FROM nullifies my question. :)

2016 ended flat YOY.

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/December2016Enplanement.pdf

2016 ended flat YOY.

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/December2016Enplanement.pdf

That's good. 2017 will be a return to growth I imagine

AA appears to have already removed the 738s from the DFW route and added more RJs in place of slots previously filled by MD80s. I just wish if they are going to transition away from mainline they go all E75 instead.

I notice for UA in March forward both SFO and LAX turn to SkyWest E175 service. Much needed for the long routes. Also see some on ORD now.

i notice for ua in march forward both sfo and lax turn to skywest e175 service. Much needed for the long routes. Also see some on ord now.

oh thank god!

yes, recently flown on this from SEA (via SFO) and the E175 is much better than the previous product.

January, 2017 off to a slow start.

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/January2017Enplanement.pdf

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/January2017Enplanement.pdf

Not a great start. Feb will be down as well. (2016 was a leap year)

The Delta numbers are rather shocking.

Delta has downsized their equipment of late. They are shifting their larger aircraft to busier routes. We will see larger aircraft reenter the market here within the next month or so.

The Delta numbers are rather shocking.

Delta had a massive IT failure on January 29, near the end of the month. While traffic was likely already down for the month, it more than likely impacted their numbers as some passengers may have rebooked a few days later in February or canceled outright.

If anything, I thought Delta would have done better in January since they brought in the 757s for the Sugar Bowl non-stop, or was that in December?

If anything, I thought Delta would have done better in January since they brought in the 757s for the Sugar Bowl non-stop, or was that in December?

Pretty small blip in the overall numbers.

June 9 schedule change for United.

DEN-OKC will operate with 1 mainline flight, OKC-DEN will operate with 2 mainline flights. IAH-OKC will operate with 1 mainline flight, OKC-IAH will remain the same and not have mainline.

DEN-OKC-DEN 737-800
IAH-OKC-DEN 737-700 (will be a morning turn arriving in OKC at 8:40am departing at 9:25)

It's the second time this routing has operated, I remember it several years ago when we still had the work in OKC. Looks like they are trying it again.

Allegiant to begin seasonal OKC-LAX June 1. Strange add with how well served the route is.

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/allegiant-announces-five-new-routes-in-time-for-summer-vacation-nasdaq-algt-2198986.htm

Edit: June 1 not 9, added link

Allegiant to begin seasonal OKC-LAX June 1. Strange add with how well served the route is.

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/allegiant-announces-five-new-routes-in-time-for-summer-vacation-nasdaq-algt-2198986.htm

Edit: June 1 not 9, added link

Was just coming on here to post this

Anyone know the equipment type being used for Allegiant OKC-LAX?

Anyone know the equipment type being used for Allegiant OKC-LAX?

Broken and unmaintained

anyone know the equipment type being used for allegiant okc-lax?

a319

Broken and unmaintained

From what I've heard, this is accurate. I will gladly pay $200 more to fly on American or United to LAX.

Broken and unmaintained

+1

Broken and unmaintainedYou won't ever catch me on an Allegiant plane. This (http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2016/investigations/allegiant-air/mechanical-breakdowns/) is pretty damning.

so, expanding on Allegiant and their unreliable planes, doesn't AAR in OKC do their heavy maintenance?

What specifically makes their planes unreliable and more prone to breaking down compared to the major airlines?

so, expanding on Allegiant and their unreliable planes, doesn't AAR in OKC do their heavy maintenance?

What specifically makes their planes unreliable and more prone to breaking down compared to the major airlines?

This story was buried in the post above yours: http://www.tampabay.com/projects/2016/investigations/allegiant-air/mechanical-breakdowns/

so, expanding on Allegiant and their unreliable planes, doesn't AAR in OKC do their heavy maintenance?

What specifically makes their planes unreliable and more prone to breaking down compared to the major airlines?

In sum, they don't do much preventive maintenance and fly extremely old aircraft (some over 30 years old). They generally wait for something to completely give out before they repair/replace it.

In Allegiant's defense, they have been rapidly retiring their ancient planes and have been buying new Airbus aircraft. They will only get better.

Their Airbus aircraft are maintained just as poorly as their mad dogs. It took United hundreds of millions of dollars and a lot of aircraft downtime after the merger to get the Airbus fleet back in working order as pre-merger United treated their airbus fleet like crap because they didn't have the money to maintain them.

Every plane will break down when pencil whipped and continually deferred maintenance.

July and August AA will run a 3rd daily to CLT. 2x CRJ9 1x CRJ7

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/February2017Enplanement.pdf

Good February considering one less day this year. What's up with delta though? Woof

Delta has switched to mostly 717's instead of MD88's to ATL, which is a significant capacity reduction.

Few days old and has nothing to do with OKC, but I find it interesting. 12 new non-stops from SFO for Alaska Airlines using Virgin America A320's and E175s. I find it interesting because ABQ and MCI got service. I wonder if we would have had a shot if the terminal expansion would have been complete. It'll be sweet to see Virgin America equipment in OKC one day.

https://newsroom.alaskaair.com/2017-03-09-Alaska-Airlines-announces-13-new-nonstop-routes-from-the-Bay-Area

AA announced a bevy of new routes today.....not a big surprise but no MIA or PHX for OKC (of note is a new OMA-MIA route).

https://i2.wp.com/thepointsguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/routes_combo_final.jpg?resize=768%2C497&ssl=1

AA announced a bevy of new routes today.....not a big surprise but no MIA or PHX for OKC (of note is a new OMA-MIA route).

PHX-OKC and TUL is dominated by Southwest. I'd love to see AA add some competition.

Is MIA-OMA daily? Impressive if that's the case. OKC-MIA even if just 3-4x week would be nice for LatAm and European connections. AA flies TUL-MIA 1x/week Saturday-only wish it could be expanded as well.

CLT-RAP (Rapid City, SD) is an odd one. East Coast-Mt Rushmore/Black Hills tourism? Looks like it's seasonal.

CLT-RAP surprises me too. RAP recently received AA service a few years ago.

That's a long flight. That plane will be tied to that route for much of the day unless it's an overnight.

Surprised there were no new routes to Philly.

On the OKC Airport wiki page it lists that OKC has service to PDX. (Portland)

I haven't seen any info on this elsewhere...is this legit or wishful thinking ??

On the OKC Airport wiki page it lists that OKC has service to PDX. (Portland)

I haven't seen any info on this elsewhere...is this legit or wishful thinking ??

While future routes have been show up there (though usually with time frame that starts), there does not seem to be anything about starting that in any of the airports news archive going back a few months and google seems not to have noticed any announcement about it either.

It was added 4 days ago by an Anonymous user. Could be something but most likely is nothing.

OKC-PDX would be a nice add but is there enough demand? Seattle being a larger business market with more connections, especially international, seems to be good enough for now. Though Alaska has been flying Omaha-Portland for over a year now.

OKC-PDX would be a nice add but is there enough demand? Seattle being a larger business market with more connections, especially international, seems to be good enough for now. Though Alaska has been flying Omaha-Portland for over a year now.

And announced a SAN expansion today that includes OMA.

Seems OKC isn't in line for anything from AS at the moment.

And announced a SAN expansion today that includes OMA.

Seems OKC isn't in line for anything from AS at the moment.

Wow they are killing it in Omaha! AA just announced OMA-MIA as well.

Airlines adjust Oklahoma flights for summer season

By: Brian Brus The Journal Record March 20, 2017

OKLAHOMA CITY – Oklahoma airports are adjusting their direct flight routes for the season, officials said.

At Will Rogers World Airport in Oklahoma City, for example, Allegiant is adding weekly nonstop flights to Los Angeles International Airport in Florida. The Thursday and Sunday departures bring Allegiant’s total direct destinations out of Will Rogers to four, including Destin-Fort Walton Beach in Florida; McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas, Nevada; and Orlando Sanford International Airport in Florida.

Stillwater Regional Airport will continue to offer two American Airlines flights to and from Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, although the times will shift slightly beginning in June.

“It’s obvious they’re targeting the summer leisure traveler,” Will Rogers spokeswoman Karen Carney said. “The West Coast is a key destination for summer vacationing.

“Allegiant actually has been flying out of Tulsa to Los Angeles. We already had American Airlines and United flying nonstop to Los Angeles. … It just took Allegiant longer to enter Oklahoma City,” she said.

The industry is shaking up the flight network nationwide for summer. Spirit will add a new route from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, to Myrtle Beach in South Carolina, for example, and JetBlue is returning to Anchorage, Alaska, from Sacramento, California. Historically, most seasonal changes don’t make it into the fall, but airport officials still hope for permanence, Carney said.

“They look at a lot of different markets to perform well during certain seasons,” she said. “Last year, they added Destin, Florida, as a new market, but it did so well that they extended the season for that flight through October. If it does well enough, it will be maintained year-round, which is what happened to Las Vegas.”

The change at Will Rogers is expected to revert back to the old schedule in mid-August, Carney said.

American seems to be moving the base of its Oklahoma circuit to Texas, shifting the first flight of the day from 6:57 a.m. out of Stillwater to a new departure time of 10:48 a.m. out of Dallas. A second flight will leave Dallas at 4:25 p.m.

The shift means flights will leave Stillwater later than they do now, with departure times shifted to 12:31 p.m. and 6:05 p.m., ending the day back in Dallas at 7:21 p.m.

Stillwater airport spokeswoman Sherry Fletcher said the airline used the term seasonal to describe the new route, but an ending date was not mentioned.

Airlines adjust Oklahoma flights for summer season

By: Brian Brus The Journal Record March 20, 2017

OKLAHOMA CITY – Oklahoma airports are adjusting their direct flight routes for the season, officials said.

At Will Rogers World Airport in Oklahoma City, for example, Allegiant is adding weekly nonstop flights to Los Angeles International Airport in Florida..

On top of bad maintenance....Allegiant apparently needs help with geography. :cool:

Or either the writer or the editor need a lesson in proofreading.

Need to book those AA MD80 trips soon. They are really starting to dwindle.

97 scheduled OKC ops in March, 38 for April.

Need to book those AA MD80 trips soon. They are really starting to dwindle.

97 scheduled OKC ops in March, 38 for April.

Also, AA 737-800 ops outnumber the MD80 52-38.

OKC-Reykjavik to begin this summer on WOW Air!! :cool:


Wow Air will offer flights starting at $99 from Oklahoma City's Will Rogers World Airport to Iceland starting July 13, marking the Icelandic carrier's entry into the South-Central U.S. market.

For $149 travelers can fly to Iceland and continue on to one of Wow's other European markets, which include London, Paris and Berlin.

The leg of the return flight is more expensive.

The cheapest round-trip flights are $269 from Oklahoma City to Iceland and $339 from Oklahoma City to Paris, including a connection at the airline's Icelandic hub in Reykjavik, a spokeswoman said.

The least expensive flights allow passengers to take one personal item on the plane. One carry-on bag costs extra. On flights longer than four hours, for example, the fee for a carry-on bag starts at $40. There are additional fees for checking luggage or reserving an assigned seat.

Tickets go on sale later this month.