Do you even fight bro? :P

I am no longer married, so the answer to that question is no.

She joined a boxing gym in Edmond and really likes it. Now, I have to be on my best behavior!

I'm scared of my wife already. I can't imagine if she had training...

So I had the npr on the radio today, they were discussing the Guv has penciled in 150-300 $ Million annually they expect to collect from Amazon. Sounds like the Okies don't like to voluntarily pay their online sales taxes, lol.

So I had the npr on the radio today, they were discussing the Guv has penciled in 150-300 $ Million annually they expect to collect from Amazon. Sounds like the Okies don't like to voluntarily pay their online sales taxes, lol.

Who would. It's more work for the average person to try to figure out how much to owe to the government. Its kind of a pain just to get a report from amazon. This is by design I'm sure. Don't want people to know how much money they blow.

So I had the npr on the radio today, they were discussing the Guv has penciled in 150-300 $ Million annually they expect to collect from Amazon. Sounds like the Okies don't like to voluntarily pay their online sales taxes, lol.

Pretty much. I believe the estimate is that approximately 96% of Oklahomans were not paying their use taxes.


Who would. It's more work for the average person to try to figure out how much to owe to the government. Its kind of a pain just to get a report from amazon. This is by design I'm sure. Don't want people to know how much money they blow.

Although it is not exactly accurate, the Oklahoma Tax Commission provides an easy calculation to estimate your use taxes from your AGI on your Oklahoma Form 511. I've always used that calculation to estimate how much I owe.

Pretty much. I believe the estimate is that approximately 96% of Oklahomans were not paying their use taxes.

Although it is not exactly accurate, the Oklahoma Tax Commission provides an easy calculation to estimate your use taxes from your AGI on your Oklahoma Form 511. I've always used that calculation to estimate how much I owe.

I tried saying this earlier in the thread: most people have not paid sales tax on Amazon and in my experiences most people did not know we were supposed to be claiming. Then, I come on here and say that and it's like everyone here says they pay them every year. Or, there are few who knew, but still used Amazon as a means to avoid a sales tax (more power to them, in my opinion - I won't demonize them).

The law was never really clear or out in the open. This should have been what was done from the beginning. Regardless, I'm glad we can finally put all of this behind us.
I can't wait to see how in a few years this won't be enough for the state and municipalities, though. It has the potential to be the casino/gambling/lottery debacle all over again: "But, what about all the money from the lottery our schools were supposed to get?!"

I tried saying this earlier in the thread: most people have not paid sales tax on Amazon and in my experiences most people did not know we were supposed to be claiming. Then, I come on here and say that and it's like everyone here says they pay them every year. Or, there are few who knew, but still used Amazon as a means to avoid a sales tax (more power to them, in my opinion - I won't demonize them).

The law was never really clear or out in the open. This should have been what was done from the beginning. Regardless, I'm glad we can finally put all of this behind us.
I can't wait to see how in a few years this won't be enough for the state and municipalities, though. It has the potential to be the casino/gambling/lottery debacle all over again: "But, what about all the money from the lottery our schools were supposed to get?!"

I don't think there's an over promise in this case. They're not talking about the billions of revenue like Henry promised. Even if it's only $85 million in additional revenue, plus an increase in local sales, this is beneficial. The actual projections are $300 million IIRC but I expect the reality will be a bit less, but with increase local retail, which means more income taxes and improved employment.

I don't think there's an over promise in this case. They're not talking about the billions of revenue like Henry promised. Even if it's only $85 million in additional revenue, plus an increase in local sales, this is beneficial. The actual projections are $300 million IIRC but I expect the reality will be a bit less, but with increase local retail, which means more income taxes and improved employment.

You are right, I guess there isn't a "promise" with this.

Just throwing in my post-Amazon tax collection experience so far.

Since Mar. 1, I have placed 4 separate Amazon orders (mostly office and gardening supplies). Totals have ranged from $80-$2,200. The percentage of tax that has been added to each sale has ranged from 3.7%-4.9%. Not really sure why it varies and Amazon isn't telling me if some items are not being taxed while others are. Regardless, it looks like what they are collecting is the overall state tax and not the local taxes. Last time I checked the state tax was either 4 or 4.5%. If so, it ridiculous to think local retailers are loosing sales to the Internet simply because of taxes.

Just throwing in my post-Amazon tax collection experience so far.

Since Mar. 1, I have placed 4 separate Amazon orders (mostly office and gardening supplies). Totals have ranged from $80-$2,200. The percentage of tax that has been added to each sale has ranged from 3.7%-4.9%. Not really sure why it varies and Amazon isn't telling me if some items are not being taxed while others are. Regardless, it looks like what they are collecting is the overall state tax and not the local taxes. Last time I checked the state tax was either 4 or 4.5%. If so, it ridiculous to think local retailers are loosing sales to the Internet simply because of taxes.

I did a price check example before, but I'm going to do another one, because it is so insane. I have an air purifier, and those things require you to replace the filters periodically. I also use a Brita pitcher, and same story. I tried to price the Brita filters at the local Walmart, ended up not finding them anywhere, but I did find the air filters and figured I'd take a quick look, as I've always bought them from Amazon because frankly I didn't even know Walmart carried them, at least not in the stores.

There is a big 'primary' filter that lasts 6 months to a year. I pay Amazon $11.89 each. Walmart wanted $17.94. There's also a 'pre' filter, and if you use it it helps that primary filter last longer. These should be replaced every three months, and I pay Amazon $7.73 for a two-pack. Walmart wanted $19.95 for one. I didn't believe this either and figured someone had put the wrong label on, or the product on the wrong part of the shelf, but I compared the sticker to the box and no, they seriously wanted twenty bucks.

I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader as to where I purchased and why, but here's a hint. If Walmart or anyone else thinks taxes figured into the equation for even one second, they're deluding themselves.

... Walmart wanted $19.95 for one. I didn't believe this either and figured someone had put the wrong label on, or the product on the wrong part of the shelf, but I compared the sticker to the box and no, they seriously wanted twenty bucks.

I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader as to where I purchased and why, but here's a hint. If Walmart or anyone else thinks taxes figured into the equation for even one second, they're deluding themselves.

Same thoughts here. The tax is not what draws me to or from a seller. It's price, convenience (both in the purchase and possible return), variety and reviews.

Had a recent WalMart sticker shock myself. Went to buy replacement windshield wipers for three of our cars. I like the RainX brand Walmart carries and didn't think anything of the $20/ea. price tag (considering the dealer wants a lot more). For whatever reason I went to read reviews while standing there in WalMart with 6 sets of wipers in my basket. That's when I saw that Amazon sells the exact same wipers for 50% cheaper than WalMart (free shipping and probably only 4% tax collected).

I also love Amazon's return policy. I think every time I've returned something (not very often), they credited my card as soon as they received a notification I had dropped the item off at a UPS store - No questions, no waiting until they received the package and inspected it, no hassle at all. While Walmart is pretty good about returns - you have to wait in line and then the lady wants to take everything out of the box and inspect it, call someone over from electronics and acts like you're pulling a scam.

huh... i purchased one item on 3/3 and was charged around 8.5%.

I bought a used book on March 3 and wasn't charged any tax. The third party seller is based outside of DC. Below is what it says at the link on the invoice on tax information. Crystal clear. Why does "Identity of the seller" matter? If the item shipped by a third party who does not have infrastructure in Oklahoma then Amazon as go between does not collect tax? That would explain why I wasn't charged. Also, what amazon says they dinged your card for is not really what they dinged your card for?

How Sales Tax is Calculated

If an item is subject to sales tax in the state to which the order is shipped, tax is generally calculated on the total selling price of each individual item. In accordance with state tax laws, the total selling price of an item will generally include item-level shipping and handling charges, item-level discounts, gift-wrap charges, and an allocation of order-level shipping and handling charges and order-level discounts.

The amount of tax charged on your order will depend upon many factors including Identity of the seller, type of item purchased, and destination of the shipment. Factors can change between the time you place an order and the time of credit card charge authorization, which could affect the calculation of sales taxes. The amount appearing on your order as Estimated Tax may differ from the sales taxes ultimately charged.

huh... i purchased one item on 3/3 and was charged around 8.5%.

I looked over my order history. While, at the time of checkout, it didn't show me a breakdown of the taxes collected, my individual invoice history does shed more light on the tax issue.

The order I placed this morning (all one order) was later broken down into 3 separate invoices in my Amazon purchase history. Two of the invoices didn't charge any tax at all. The third did. When you apply the math only to the invoice with taxes collected, it jump a little - to 6.2%.

Which still makes me wonder - How in the heck are they calculating this?

Isn't Amazon a weird mix of stuff that is actually sold by Amazon itself, and then things that are sold by other sellers with Amazon only warehousing and fulfilling the orders?

Makes me wonder if Amazon is only collecting on stuff that is sold by Amazon itself, and not collecting on stuff that is only filled and shipped by Amazon.

Makes me wonder if Amazon is only collecting on stuff that is sold by Amazon itself, and not collecting on stuff that is only filled and shipped by Amazon.

This is correct and is how it's been implemented in other states.

I looked over my order history. While, at the time of checkout, it didn't show me a breakdown of the taxes collected, my individual invoice history does shed more light on the tax issue.

The order I placed this morning (all one order) was later broken down into 3 separate invoices in my Amazon purchase history. Two of the invoices didn't charge any tax at all. The third did. When you apply the math only to the invoice with taxes collected, it jump a little - to 6.2%.

Which still makes me wonder - How in the heck are they calculating this?

Mine were between 8-8.25% in zip 73142. Did you divide tax by your full total instead of subtotal maybe? May just be a weird zip code, I know Best Buy calculates the tax differently between 73134 and 73142.

Updated numbers of tad collections show online sales taxes have boosted revenue:

https://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/editorials/city-and-state-are-finally-getting-fair-share-from-online/article_42826928-9163-5003-8338-4d39ef3abeee.html