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Harbinger 08-19-2016, 12:22 PM I stumbled across this while driving around Midtown today. This sign is located on the SW corner of 6th and Walker. I navigated to Krittenbrink's website to obtain a better rendering, however this project is not yet posted there.
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That's awesome if true. Nice infill on an empty lot. Looks like stone possibly?
ChrisHayes 08-19-2016, 06:34 PM I like the look of that building. I'm not too familiar with the SOSA area so I just looked it up on Google Maps, and holy cow, it's amazing how many vacant lots there are in that area. Hopefully local and out of state developers see that and start buying up lots to infill it.
Brett 08-20-2016, 03:33 AM I honestly cannot remember when a law firm has actually ponied up money and built a building. I believe that this would be a first.
Harbinger 08-20-2016, 06:58 AM ^^^
There was the Hunziker Legal Group on Film Row just a couple of years ago.
Jeepnokc 08-20-2016, 08:29 AM I honestly cannot remember when a law firm has actually ponied up money and built a building. I believe that this would be a first.
ahem...ahem....Hunsucker Legal Group at 600 West Sheridan http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=33742
catch22 08-20-2016, 11:36 AM ahem...ahem....Hunsucker Legal Group at 600 West Sheridan http://www.okctalk.com/showthread.php?t=33742
And what a fine building they built!
kevinpate 08-20-2016, 12:55 PM And what a fine building they built!
Doesn't even begin to cover it.
Jeepnokc's building is exceptionally impressive, inside and out.
Even better, so is the professionalism of each person I've met from the firm to date. Truly, truly great folk.
gman11695 08-20-2016, 04:39 PM I think that sign is brand new! I remember walking by that intersection a few weeks ago and it not being there! Looks amazing and would look great on that intersection! With it being at the top of a hill, it would be appear larger than it would already be!
TheTravellers 08-28-2016, 02:45 PM I honestly cannot remember when a law firm has actually ponied up money and built a building. I believe that this would be a first.
Maples/Nix built one on N May/155th-ish a year or so ago.
Law firm proposes new office building on high ground near downtown (http://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=336-Law-firm-proposes-new-office-building-on-high-ground-near-downtown)
Miller & Johnson law firm has proposed the construction of a new office building on a piece of property with commanding views of downtown.
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Through an LLC, the firm bought the vacant lot at the southwest corner of NW 6th and Walker last year and paid $675,000 for just under three quarters of an acre.
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The design by Krittenbrink Architecture of Norman features Art Deco elements and is situated to maximize views to the south.
The plans show the firm occupying the 3rd floor and leasing the remaining two; Miller & Johnson is currently located at 1221 N. Francis.
The Downtown Design Review Committee will review the proposal in its November 17th meeting.
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shawnw 10-20-2016, 11:31 AM like
Walker in particular is really starting to fill in now.
Zuplar 10-20-2016, 12:02 PM See, people do still know how to create something that has a classic design with a modern touch.
Looks great.
HangryHippo 10-20-2016, 12:11 PM See, people do still know how to create something that has a classic design with a modern touch.
Looks great.
Yep. This and 701 Hudson are going to look great.
DoctorTaco 10-20-2016, 12:44 PM I like that the building faces the street and not the parking lot, and I like that the parking is behind the building. I do wish that they'd do away with the landscaping along the street and push the building directly to the sidewalk. That being said this could be much much worse.
sgt. pepper 10-20-2016, 12:48 PM Oh man, I really like the look of this building! Finally something with character and style.
Lazio85 10-20-2016, 01:11 PM https://c4.staticflickr.com/6/5490/30366594211_fce4a65f23_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/NgoJva)
MJ Law Firm (https://flic.kr/p/NgoJva) by lazio85 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/77483833@N04/), on Flickr
PhiAlpha 10-20-2016, 01:52 PM Would like to see some retail but even without, this is looks really nice.
HangryHippo 10-20-2016, 01:58 PM Would like to see some retail but even without, this is looks really nice.
I always thought this lot would make for a good 10 story apartment building with retail on the ground floor just because of the views from that sorta hill it's on.
OkiePoke 10-20-2016, 02:02 PM From street level looking west, is there just going to be a containment wall along the sidewalk?
sooner88 10-20-2016, 02:14 PM The building looks awesome. The two giant MJ's on the north side seems excessive, but not unusual for a law firm haha.
Ross MacLochness 10-20-2016, 02:27 PM Would like to see some retail but even without, this is looks really nice.
It looks like there is leaseable space on the first and second floors so maybe there will be some kind of retail component. As a nearby resident, It would be a welcome addition to my walk to work and a convenient location for food, beverage or every day goods. As sosa develops there will be many more people in this area who will be within walking distance. Regardless, it'll be great to have this corner filled.
UnFrSaKn 10-20-2016, 04:13 PM 13188
Jeepnokc 10-20-2016, 04:28 PM I guess I am the odd man out here. I think it is a nice enough looking building but it reminds me of a suburban hotel design. The typical 3 story Hampton type hotels. It may be that it isn't pushed to the street and has landscaping instead. Can't quite put my thumb on it.
dankrutka 10-20-2016, 04:50 PM I guess I am the odd man out here. I think it is a nice enough looking building but it reminds me of a suburban hotel design. The typical 3 story Hampton type hotels. It may be that it isn't pushed to the street and has landscaping instead. Can't quite put my thumb on it.
I feel the same way. You are not alone. ;)
HangryHippo 10-20-2016, 04:51 PM I guess I am the odd man out here. I think it is a nice enough looking building but it reminds me of a suburban hotel design. The typical 3 story Hampton type hotels. It may be that it isn't pushed to the street and has landscaping instead. Can't quite put my thumb on it.
It does look a lot like a Hampton now that you mention it, lol.
Spartan 10-20-2016, 06:25 PM The corner element is ugly, and those are not art deco details but that's okay, but this looks workable and contextually appropriate.
You are not alone. ;)
Quoting MJ lyrics on the MJ building thread... ;)
Teo9969 10-20-2016, 10:31 PM It's a nice building for what it is. I somewhat wish that what it is were different, but realistically it's not in a prime spot for retail activity.
I wish they would address the corner better as it wouldn't provide such a "what's going on?" moment in the future urban fabric, but it's not devastating either.
Plutonic Panda 10-20-2016, 11:21 PM This is a pretty building but it is suburban design and would be really nice in Quail Springs Office Park or Nichols Hills.
It's pushed right to the corner with the parking behind, which is a critical urban principle.
bombermwc 10-21-2016, 09:13 AM Would like to see some retail but even without, this is looks really nice.
There would be absolutely no pull for retail here. And we're not in the central core, butting up to the curb isn't really necessary. Definitely a plus for the area.
king183 10-21-2016, 09:57 AM Wish it were taller.
Just kidding.
shawnw 10-21-2016, 11:24 AM Wonder if this is the kind of development that will push Dowell into making his move with an apartment tower to the SW of this on the newish surface lot...
Teo9969 10-21-2016, 02:07 PM Wonder if this ... will push Dowell into making...
That right there is a difficult feat for God Almighty...
Spartan 10-23-2016, 09:48 PM Wonder if this is the kind of development that will push Dowell into making his move with an apartment tower to the SW of this on the newish surface lot...
I don't think Dowell has the ability to take on that kind of project.
shawnw 10-24-2016, 03:33 PM He may not, but the model sitting on the floor of the Dowell Center shows a tower in that spot, so he's clearly thought about it.
kevinpate 10-25-2016, 05:50 PM Look at the rendering, then close your eyes, think brown, tan, EFIS, and open your eyes.
jeep's perspective suddenly gets all too real
Here is a higher quality rendering.
http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/millerjohnson110916.jpg
Jeepnokc 11-09-2016, 03:18 PM 13248
Just add a driveway out front
Timshel 11-09-2016, 04:00 PM 13248
Just add a driveway out front
On this point, I've been curious to know what the exterior material will be.....think it will go a long way to determining how this building looks. I'm hoping it will be stone and not the "hotel stucco" like Jeep's picture. I think the building could look good if they don't skimp on materials
The exterior will be cast stone with a small amount of EIFS.
catch22 11-09-2016, 09:46 PM I wish it were pushed directly to the sidewalk and didn't have a cascading effect along the sidewalk. Would be nice for it to be a straight line to the sidewalk.
traxx 11-10-2016, 10:53 AM If it were EIFS then it would look like a cheap hotel. If it's stone similar to the Beta house at OU, it will look fine.
This passed the DDRC today.
warreng88 11-18-2016, 10:04 AM Proposed Miller and Johnson building closer to final approval
By: Molly M. Fleming The Journal Record November 17, 2016
OKLAHOMA CITY – The Miller and Johnson law office used to have three conference rooms. Two of those are now used as offices, but things are about to get a little less cozy.
“We had to have a part-time person share space with a copier in the mailroom,” said Brad Miller, a partner at the firm. “We will have to make other part-time people split space with another person. I don’t think we’ll make it to February 2018.”
The firm occupies about 6,000 square feet at 1221 N. Francis Ave. It started with 3,500 square feet.
“We started with four partners and a full-time legal assistant,” said Jami Antonisse, a firm partner. “In the last two-and-a-half years, we’ve added three full-time attorneys, two additional staff, and two part-time staff.”
The firm’s lease in its existing space is running out. The partners tried to find a new place but didn’t have any luck. Building their own space seemed liked the next best option.
Miller and three other partners formed a development company and worked with Norman-based Krittenbrink Architecture to design a $5 million, three-story, 20,000-square-foot building. It will be constructed at 500 NW Sixth St. The lot is at the southwest corner of N. Hudson Avenue and Sixth Street.
Shawn Lorg with Krittenbrink presented the project Thursday at the Downtown Design Review Committee meeting. The city planning staff’s review of the project came with several variance requests. The staff also recommended moving the approval to January’s DDRC meeting.
Lorg said the firm couldn’t wait that long.
“We need to expedite the process,” he said.
Lorg addressed the staff’s concerns, and by the end of his presentation, the committee did not have any objections. One staff recommendation was to get a variance on the setback distance from the sidewalk. Committee chairwoman Betsy Brunsteter said the setback was necessary and she recommended Lorg getting a variance.
The staff recommended redesigning the retaining wall because it was too close to the traffic signal and could block drivers’ views. The commission agreed with the recommendation. Lorg will have to return to DDRC to get approval for a new retaining wall design if it’s kept with the project.
“I don’t think the retaining wall complements your building at all,” said Gigi Faulkner, committee member.
Chuck Ainsworth, who is also on the committee, gave high praise to the project. He made the recommendation to approve the project if Lorg gets the variance and comes back to review the retaining wall and a landscape plan.
“I think it’s a beautiful building,” he said. “The cut limestone hits my sweet spot. I love it. I drive by there every day, and I think it’s going to be a real spectacular deal.”
Krittenbrink Architecture will be able to move forward on the project, even with the required approvals still needed.
The building isn’t just a new home for Miller and Johnson, Miller said. The development group, P Drive Properties, will lease space to other companies as well.
He said he’s glad the DDRC didn’t find any major concerns with the project.
“(Today’s approval) keeps us on schedule,” he said. “That is very important to us so we can get into that building on our current course, which is February 2018.”
Plutonic Panda 11-18-2016, 04:41 PM Could block drivers views? So how do people drive in every other major urbanized city in the world that don't have buildings set back so they don't block driver views?
kevinpate 11-18-2016, 05:29 PM Sounded like the concern was the location (height?) of the proposed retaining wall at the corner, not the building itself.
dankrutka 11-18-2016, 09:12 PM Sounded like the concern was the location (height?) of the proposed retaining wall at the corner, not the building itself.
Is this building closer to the corner and taller than other buildings in urban areas in general? Honest question.
Plutonic Panda 11-19-2016, 02:14 AM Yeah and if the argument is the area is hilly, than explain San Francisco.
$5 million building permit application filed today for this project.
bradh 12-14-2016, 04:54 PM Bids turn in tomorrow
Laramie 12-14-2016, 04:58 PM See, people do still know how to create something that has a classic design with a modern touch.
Looks great.
+1
shadfar 03-06-2017, 03:41 PM I drive by this everyday, no progress? Any updates?
DoctorTaco 04-12-2017, 10:21 AM Dirt work began this week..
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Compared to the previous picture this site looks abandoned. What happened?
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