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Urbanized
08-29-2016, 02:32 PM
^^^^^^^^
I was wondering the same thing. With on-premises sales and production (and food allowed, yes?) there should be no distinction anymore between brew pubs and craft breweries. If it remains, it seems pretty unfair to the brew pubs, who actually pioneered the re-emergence of local craft beer. One of my best friends is one of the founders of COOP, and we have spoken often that if places like Bricktown Brewery and Belle Isle Brewery had not come into being in the nineties, acceptance of craft beer in OKC would have been much more challenging when the movement emerged. In other words, those places demonstrated to the masses that there was something out there beyond the three or four watered down lagers everyone was drinking before that point. Because of that awakening, more people were ready for true local, craft strong beer when it arrived.

The other side of that coin is that if there had never been so much restriction, places like Bricktown Brewery would probably already be large-scale distributors of strong craft beer. When I visited Oregon earlier this year and a number of the breweries there, it occurred to me that most had started just like BB, but grew to become major craft brewers in time. Deschutes is the perfect example. The original brew pub - started in 1988, just 4 years before Bricktown Brewery - is still open in downtown Bend, and honestly Bricktown Brewery and Belle Isle are both more impressive places. But the beer itself became so popular that it spawned a full-on, separate brewery that is now one of the largest craft breweries in America.

Jersey Boss
08-29-2016, 02:49 PM
I wonder if with these changes Bricktown Brewery might start offering up some stronger options as well now?

FWIW- I was wondering the same thing and called up the BREWHOUSE in Norman on Sat. to ask about this. The person I spoke with said they will not know until November. I did not get into the particulars with them on this reply.

swh113
08-29-2016, 04:53 PM
I've had growlers refilled at Mustang and Roughtail, pretty sure Anthem does them as well. Elk Valley at Mustang Brewery also does fills.

I have a Hydro Flask growler that I have had filled with low-point beer at Roughtail in the past. However, when I was there on Saturday they told me that the new laws limit them to filling only growlers with their logo on them. I read the bill and didn't see any language specifically dealing with growlers. Can anyone shed some light on this?

mattjank
08-30-2016, 10:01 AM
I have a Hydro Flask growler that I have had filled with low-point beer at Roughtail in the past. However, when I was there on Saturday they told me that the new laws limit them to filling only growlers with their logo on them. I read the bill and didn't see any language specifically dealing with growlers. Can anyone shed some light on this?

From reading their facebook posts it sounds like an ABLE interpretation. Shocker I know. They did say they would be selling stickers for plain growlers. Don't know if that changed.

Andon
08-30-2016, 10:25 AM
Its likely a liability issue.

trousers
08-30-2016, 11:02 AM
Its not an issue in other states that I know of. My roughtail growlers are pretty popular in Little Rock.

Andon
08-30-2016, 11:51 AM
I mean between the hydro flask growlers and standard glass growlers.

trousers
08-30-2016, 11:59 AM
OK gotcha.

swh113
08-30-2016, 04:24 PM
From reading their facebook posts it sounds like an ABLE interpretation. Shocker I know. They did say they would be selling stickers for plain growlers. Don't know if that changed.

Great, thanks all! Must have missed those facebook posts somehow. I didn't have my plain growler with me...should have asked more questions, I guess.