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dankrutka
12-29-2016, 11:27 PM
The win-loss looks good bc we beat up on a weak conference and take care of low-level business except for when it matters for once (Iowa State). The reality of this glorious 5-year span is we got badly embarrassed in bowls against Mizzou and Ole Miss...Mizzou we really should have beat. Not acceptable. . . What the hell was Gundy doing that season, was any coaching at all happening?

The more you dig at Gundy's actual accomplishments the more suspect they become..

OSU should definitely fire Gundy after another suspect 10 win season, top 10 finish, and blowout of the PAC-12 runner up. OSU should definitely get rid of him before OSU's preseason top 10 ranking for next season is released. ;)

Anonymous.
12-30-2016, 02:19 AM
Before each game, does Gundy flip a coin that says aggressive on one side and take zero risks on the other?

Stew
12-30-2016, 05:00 AM
OSU should definitely fire Gundy after another suspect 10 win season, top 10 finish, and blowout of the PAC-12 runner up. OSU should definitely get rid of him before OSU's preseason top 10 ranking for next season is released. ;)

That's just nuts.

Bellaboo
12-30-2016, 08:33 AM
That's just nuts.


Dan was being sarcastic.

dankrutka
12-30-2016, 10:13 AM
Dan was being sarcastic.

This is true. I was referencing a previous discussion about Gundy's coaching resume. Just kidding around.

dcsooner
12-30-2016, 10:36 AM
OSU looked great in a very impressive win. The future looks to be bright for OSU football

Spartan
12-30-2016, 03:49 PM
OSU should definitely fire Gundy after another suspect 10 win season, top 10 finish, and blowout of the PAC-12 runner up. OSU should definitely get rid of him before OSU's preseason top 10 ranking for next season is released. ;)

So, instead of going out and celebrating the win, you immediately log on here to go after anyone who attacked Gundy. I stand by what I said that he's not the best that we can do. Glad he put his job search distractions aside to focus on this bowl. I'm not surprised to see what these players are capable of... they're a damn good team.

I'm just excited for 2017, and I'm very excited for the opportunities that lie ahead for Rudolph and Washington. I hope they get the most of their time in such a special place. If we fall short of expectations there will need to be some accountability, but I'm thrilled that the train is back on the right track. We don't get this many shots at the playoff...

If Gundy gets us where we should be at the end of next season, I hope the school does the right thing and offers him every penny that would be offered to anyone else.

Even Doug Gottlieb said last night's game plan was basically all the schemes we should have ran against OU. The formula really seems pretty simple... play aggressive, OSU can beat anyone; play conservatively, lose to Central Michigan and get whacked by OU.

I just get angry when we chose defeat and leave our soul out there on the field. I'd rather lose a game fighting than calculating or whatever we were doing against OU.

Spartan
12-30-2016, 03:56 PM
Before each game, does Gundy flip a coin that says aggressive on one side and take zero risks on the other?

Basically he just freaks out and freezes up against OU. It's really just that one game each year..

Zuplar
12-30-2016, 04:17 PM
As a Colorado alum naturally I wanted the Buffs to win. And honestly I thought they had a solid chance. I really was hoping they would play like they did against OU, cause I think that would have favored CU. Really makes you wonder what the outcome would have been had they played differently against OU.

Spartan
12-30-2016, 06:42 PM
You mean if Gundy weren't driving a high-class sports car with one foot on the break at all times...

dankrutka
12-30-2016, 07:11 PM
So, instead of going out and celebrating the win, you immediately log on here to go after anyone who attacked Gundy.

Relax. And, why would I celebrate? I'm an OU alum. Happy for OSU and their fans. They are very lucky to have Gundy. ;)

OSUMom
12-30-2016, 09:15 PM
Next year could be really, really good for OSU. Rudolph, Washington back. Ateman back playing. Wish Vincent Taylor had stayed but can't have everything.

mugofbeer
12-31-2016, 11:08 PM
I think OSU has a chance to be outstanding next year, especially on offense. They play 3 bowl teams from this year and need to squash them all.

ljbab728
01-01-2017, 12:35 AM
I think OSU has a chance to be outstanding next year, especially on offense. They play 3 bowl teams from this year and need to squash them all.

Next year they will play a lot more than 3 bowl teams from this year.

Spartan
01-01-2017, 01:18 AM
Relax. And, why would I celebrate? I'm an OU alum. Happy for OSU and their fans. They are very lucky to have Gundy. ;)

Then I literally cannot fathom why you care about Gundy so much. It seems like you just have this presumptuous notion of what OSU should be happy with, and if you're an OU alum, you probably haven't seen everything that exists in Stillwater these days.

mugofbeer
01-02-2017, 02:22 PM
Next year they will play a lot more than 3 bowl teams from this year.

correct. I left out I was referring to their non.conference schedule.

ljbab728
01-02-2017, 11:43 PM
Other than OU's monster game at Ohio State next year, their nonconference schedule is lighter. They have home games against UTEP and Tulane.

ABCOKC
01-03-2017, 01:49 AM
Other than OU's monster game at Ohio State next year, their nonconference schedule is lighter. They have home games against UTEP and Tulane.

Yep, and thank god. Barring a monumental upset, worst possible start is 2-1 with a loss to Ohio St that will be very forgivable as long as the game is moderately close.

Other notable Big 12 2017 Non-conference games:

OSU @ Pitt
Texas v. Maryland
Texas @ USC
WVU v. Virginia Tech (Neutral site)
TCU @ Arkansas
Kansas St @ Vanderbilt
Iowa St v. Iowa
Texas Tech v. ASU
Texas Tech @ Houston
Baylor @ Duke

That makes 10 P5 games and Houston, who still has talent but may or may not be any good now that Herman is gone.

Unfortunately lots of road games here (7 of 11) with one neutral site game, and just three home games.

I think OSU beats Pitt again, and OU will only be slight underdogs @ Ohio St. Texas will likely be double-digit dogs at USC. Aside from those, Baylor-Duke is a likely win, Iowa-ISU is almost definitely a loss, and the rest are near toss-ups.

TCU-Arkansas and TTU-ASU were both very, very close games last year. KSU and Vandy, as well as Texas and Maryland are all very middle of the road, while Va Tech and WVU were above average this past year.

If the Big 12 can go 6-5 with at least one win over Ohio St/USC and another over Pitt/VT, we should be pretty well positioned to get a team into the playoff. Obviously performing well this bowl season has been nice, but the conference's struggles in September (Ohio St, CMU, UH) ultimately led to it getting left out of the CFP.

Eric
01-03-2017, 06:22 AM
Been a long time since I have been even mildly impressed with the Big 12's performance in the bowl season. I understand the pairing usually average unfavorably for us (Big 12 vs higher ranked team), but it still ended well this year, with the only unexpected outcomes the two positive blow outs at the end (and K-State sort of). Beat a couple of SEC teams in the process, a conference that literally had one really good team and a bunch of Big 12 or worse caliber teams.

The Big 10 appeared to be a bit exposed I will have to say. Won't stop people from favoring that conference after the SEC though.

SoonerDave
01-03-2017, 06:50 AM
Been a long time since I have been even mildly impressed with the Big 12's performance in the bowl season. I understand the pairing usually average unfavorably for us (Big 12 vs higher ranked team), but it still ended well this year, with the only unexpected outcomes the two positive blow outs at the end (and K-State sort of). Beat a couple of SEC teams in the process, a conference that literally had one really good team and a bunch of Big 12 or worse caliber teams.

The Big 10 appeared to be a bit exposed I will have to say. Won't stop people from favoring that conference after the SEC though.

I think the SEC is rapidly being exposed as Alabama and Everyone Else. The sentiment during the season was that they weren't as good as they had been, but this bowl season has surely cemented that. OU and OSU both did the BIg 12 proud with their dominant wins, and of course I'm delighted with OU's performance against Auburn. THey took on the challenge of one of the better DL's in the country and gashed them for 3 rushing touchdowns, when Auburn had only given up 5 all season...

TU 'cane
01-03-2017, 06:56 AM
I think this ESPN writer was a little upset that Auburn lost. Or maybe it was that a B12 team beat an SEC team? Or maybe it was OU's 4th (or 5th?) straight win against the SEC?

http://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/135782/baker-mayfield-oklahoma-cruise-after-auburn-loses-starting-qb

Reading through that article, I see excuses galore for Auburn and slight jabs at OU. I didn't know their QB played defense.
Oh, well. Boomer, baby.

SoonerDave
01-03-2017, 07:58 AM
I think this ESPN writer was a little upset that Auburn lost. Or maybe it was that a B12 team beat an SEC team? Or maybe it was OU's 4th (or 5th?) straight win against the SEC?

http://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/135782/baker-mayfield-oklahoma-cruise-after-auburn-loses-starting-qb

Reading through that article, I see excuses galore for Auburn and slight jabs at OU. I didn't know their QB played defense.
Oh, well. Boomer, baby.

Meh, I don't think the article was that bad. The guy was fairly ready with the praise for OU's offense and Mayfield in particular. About the only thing I could say was it was a *little* heavy handed toward the whole game pivoting on Sean White's injury, and while that was surely a big factor for the Auburn offense, it was more than overshadowed in my book by the way the OU offense dominated a good Auburn defense. And it was all capped when I heard the postgame guys say "OU clearly played the more physical game." That was music to my ears, especially considering we haven't heard that in a while about OU.

TU 'cane
01-03-2017, 08:40 AM
Meh, I don't think the article was that bad. The guy was fairly ready with the praise for OU's offense and Mayfield in particular. About the only thing I could say was it was a *little* heavy handed toward the whole game pivoting on Sean White's injury, and while that was surely a big factor for the Auburn offense, it was more than overshadowed in my book by the way the OU offense dominated a good Auburn defense. And it was all capped when I heard the postgame guys say "OU clearly played the more physical game." That was music to my ears, especially considering we haven't heard that in a while about OU.

So true.

soonermike81
01-03-2017, 08:54 AM
Other than OU's monster game at Ohio State next year, their nonconference schedule is lighter. They have home games against UTEP and Tulane.

We still have to play some of our tougher Big XII games on the road, however. But we can go full swing into the Spring with a ton of momentum now. If somehowe, Samaje or Mixon decides to stay and we can get another WR to step up big time (seem to always do), this offense is going to be a juggernaut again next year. Young offensive line will be mostly intact. Defense needs to get more consistent obviously, but I have hope for a unit that returns most of the starters. Chase for 8 will be a legitimate thing again. So many positives heading into next season. If only we can get an awesome/consistent kicker. Feels like it's been forever since we've had one (Hartley/Duncan?)

Laramie
01-03-2017, 04:12 PM
Recall the year we lost @ home to Notre Dame then beat them the next year in South Bend. Now Ohio State is a much tougher animal; hope we can upset OSU when we visit Columbus in 2017.

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/683/239/4_3239683.jpg
News report that Samaje Perine will declare for the NFL draft; will not return to OU for the 2017 season.

We could also lose Joe Mixon...

Spartan
01-03-2017, 06:39 PM
Good luck I will be there tailgating and cheering on my other OSU. Urban has literally already rebuilt the offensive coaching staff in the two days since that embarrassment vs Clemson. Does the name Kevin Wilson ring a bell?

SoonerDave
01-03-2017, 09:09 PM
Good luck I will be there tailgating and cheering on my other OSU. Urban has literally already rebuilt the offensive coaching staff in the two days since that embarrassment vs Clemson. Does the name Kevin Wilson ring a bell?

It will be very interesting to see exactly how Wilson rebuilds that offense. He can't run the kind of high-tempo spread he had rolling in Norman back in '08 without restructuring some of their personnel - while they have all kinds of talent, I'm not sure its geared to run that kind of offense. Will be interesting to see. I have a lot more optimism about going up there next season than I did about three months ago...

ljbab728
02-02-2017, 11:16 PM
This doesn't really relate that much to the current Big 12 but,

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18609288/art-briles-baylor-bears-assistants-buried-player-misbehavior-documents-say

I hope that scumbag, Art Briles, is never again in a position of authority over any college athletes.

dankrutka
02-03-2017, 04:08 PM
This doesn't really relate that much to the current Big 12 but,

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18609288/art-briles-baylor-bears-assistants-buried-player-misbehavior-documents-say

I hope that scumbag, Art Briles, is never again in a position of authority over any college athletes.

Are there not any criminal charges for not reporting any of this information to police?

mugofbeer
02-03-2017, 05:39 PM
Joe Mixon wasnt invited to the NFL combine. Just caught the crawl across the screen. No details

ABCOKC
02-03-2017, 08:44 PM
Joe Mixon wasnt invited to the NFL combine. Just caught the crawl across the screen. No details

Apparently the NFL has a new rule that anyone convicted of a violent felony or misdemeanor is barred from the combine.

Also they probably would rather avoid the media firestorm that would come from his participation in the combine. This way only the team that drafts him will take any heat.

kevinpate
02-04-2017, 08:18 AM
If memory serves, Mixon does not have a conviction.

ABCOKC
02-04-2017, 07:41 PM
Well I'll be, looks like you're right.

http://newsok.com/article/5361807


Mixon was given a one-year deferred sentence, 100 hours of community service and cognitive behavior counseling.

A deferred sentence means Mixon will not have a criminal conviction for the misdemeanor offense if he completes probation successfully.

The NFL rule pretty clearly states players are banned if they have a conviction for a violent crime, which doesn't appear to be true of Mixon. In that case this is pretty obviously just a PR stunt by the NFL. Mixon is high-profile (specifically because he went to OU) and I suppose the NFL doesn't want the bad press.

If I were him or his lawyers I'd be livid, although it probably won't matter in the end, since scouts can just come see him at OU's Pro Day (assuming Bob lets him participate); and where he goes, from the 2nd round to UFA, will be more heavily dependent on his pre-draft interviews with the teams than combine numbers anyway.

Zuplar
02-09-2017, 11:22 AM
http://newsok.com/big-12s-anger-with-baylor-apparent-in-withholding-of-payouts/article/5537453

Glad to see the Big12 not playing around with Baylor. I really hope they follow through and just kick them out, as I'm really hoping the NCAA gives them the death penalty and we'd need another football school. Disgusting program.

dankrutka
02-09-2017, 12:35 PM
I would love to see the Big 12 kick out Baylor and just invite Houston. What has happened in Waco has been shameful.

Zuplar
02-09-2017, 12:37 PM
I would love to see the Big 12 kick out Baylor and just invite Houston. What has happened in Waco has been shameful.

100% agree with you.