I wonder if the new abortion clinic that is planning to open just down the street played a part with the upcoming closure of Target?

It's more likely that #BoycottTarget played a part, and that is quite unlikely.

Insider information here.

This Target has been in the bottom (like bottom 5%) for sales volume among all stores in the company since the Moore location opened in 2011. Target was constantly toying with the labor structure at this store, trying to see how little they could put into it and still run it. In one recent year they were a part of a company test in extremely low volume stores where they would only begin unloading the truck 30 minutes before the store opened. Shortage was about the company average, but even a few hundred thousand is a notable percentage of this store's total yearly volume. Pharmacy was also a pretty big sales driver for this store, but that side of the business was transferred to CVS a few months ago. The company had also sunk some significant capital maintenance projects into this store in recent years, and probably had more coming.

There's speculation that Integris wants the property. I've heard they've made offers to Sears a few times already and Sears keeps turning them down. Watching what happens to Ace will be a key indicator of whether that was the case. If it turns out someone was offering Target something for the property, it wouldn't surprise me that Target decided they could make more money in the short term than they would see in profits from the store over the next 5 years. This in addition to the fact that North May, Moore, and Midwest City will probably absorb enough lost business from the 44th and Western store to make up for loss in profit.

There are no current plans to build any more stores in the OKC area.

Rest assured, this has nothing to do with bathrooms, abortion clinics, or any other Facebook issues your grandma is concerned with.

^^^ This makes sense.

Growing up, the SW 44th Target was the only store in the south metro. Whether you lived in Moore, SW OKC, or SE OKC over by Tinker, this was the Target you went to when you wanted to go. Even then, I remember it being pretty run down compared to the north metro stores. Since Moore, Norman, and Midwest City now have their own Target stores, a large portion of the old customer base for the 44th and Western store now goes to other locations.

As a couple of others have said. I like going to this Target because it's never busy. I have a lot of former favorite businesses that were favorites because they were never busy. What's good for me was bad for them.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/26/investing/sears-kmart-kenmore-craftsman/index.html

Speaking of sears, it looks like they are doing away with the only thing that distinguishes them. It won't be long now.If Sears sells off Kenmore and Craftsman what else is there? Pretty much nothing.

There are for sale signs on the north portion of the Sears parking lot.

My friend used to live on a street just East of Ace / Target, although small, it is a great store, especially after they put in the improvements and increased their groceries. There are things I could find in this Target I couldn't find in Norman. Sad that this store is going away. It isn't like it is run down like the Homelands. Target actually put money in this small store to keep it lively.

This Target has been in the bottom (like bottom 5%) for sales volume among all stores in the company since the Moore location opened in 2011. Target was constantly toying with the labor structure at this store, trying to see how little they could put into it and still run it.

In your opinion, what percentage of the closure is due to the Moore store, and what percentage is due to management half-assing it?

Insider information here.

This Target has been in the bottom (like bottom 5%) for sales volume among all stores in the company since the Moore location opened in 2011. Target was constantly toying with the labor structure at this store, trying to see how little they could put into it and still run it. In one recent year they were a part of a company test in extremely low volume stores where they would only begin unloading the truck 30 minutes before the store opened. Shortage was about the company average, but even a few hundred thousand is a notable percentage of this store's total yearly volume. Pharmacy was also a pretty big sales driver for this store, but that side of the business was transferred to CVS a few months ago. The company had also sunk some significant capital maintenance projects into this store in recent years, and probably had more coming.

There's speculation that Integris wants the property. I've heard they've made offers to Sears a few times already and Sears keeps turning them down. Watching what happens to Ace will be a key indicator of whether that was the case. If it turns out someone was offering Target something for the property, it wouldn't surprise me that Target decided they could make more money in the short term than they would see in profits from the store over the next 5 years. This in addition to the fact that North May, Moore, and Midwest City will probably absorb enough lost business from the 44th and Western store to make up for loss in profit.

There are no current plans to build any more stores in the OKC area.

Rest assured, this has nothing to do with bathrooms, abortion clinics, or any other Facebook issues your grandma is concerned with.

Thanks very much for the info.! Interesting stuff.

Insider information here.

This Target has been in the bottom (like bottom 5%) for sales volume among all stores in the company since the Moore location opened in 2011. Target was constantly toying with the labor structure at this store, trying to see how little they could put into it and still run it. In one recent year they were a part of a company test in extremely low volume stores where they would only begin unloading the truck 30 minutes before the store opened. Shortage was about the company average, but even a few hundred thousand is a notable percentage of this store's total yearly volume. Pharmacy was also a pretty big sales driver for this store, but that side of the business was transferred to CVS a few months ago. The company had also sunk some significant capital maintenance projects into this store in recent years, and probably had more coming.

There's speculation that Integris wants the property. I've heard they've made offers to Sears a few times already and Sears keeps turning them down. Watching what happens to Ace will be a key indicator of whether that was the case. If it turns out someone was offering Target something for the property, it wouldn't surprise me that Target decided they could make more money in the short term than they would see in profits from the store over the next 5 years. This in addition to the fact that North May, Moore, and Midwest City will probably absorb enough lost business from the 44th and Western store to make up for loss in profit.

There are no current plans to build any more stores in the OKC area.

Rest assured, this has nothing to do with bathrooms, abortion clinics, or any other Facebook issues your grandma is concerned with.

Great info thanks for sharing.

From Will, taken today. Closes 8/20.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/target080916.jpg


http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/target080916b.jpg

Has to be the worst store closing in history (for bargain shoppers). They clearance'd the clothing and marked some things down a little bit - but the bulk of the merchandise simply went to other stores.

I was hoping for some really good mark downs. O'well.

Sad to see this Target close.

I shopped there quite a bit when I worked downtown because it was an easy drive down Western.

It was never anywhere near as busy as the one I now go to at 50th & N. May.

Really going to miss this store because it was just a little more than a mile from my house. Very convenient when I didn't want to deal with Walmart (which is almost always).

Yeah, big loss for the southside and I really worry about them finding anything decent to take their place.

Yeah, big loss for the southside and I really worry about them finding anything decent to take their place.

I'd love to hold onto a delusion they might still want to build somewhere along 104th and I-44, but I know that's a pipe dream. The Moore store is...close, but at the same time, it isn't. Frustrating.

I drove by last weekend to see the Target officially closed. The front entrance is boarded up and the parking lot almost empty. I was thinking that the location would be ideal for either a WinCo or Crest Foods.

I was thinking that the location would be ideal for either a WinCo or Crest Foods.

Brett,
Funny you should mention Winco since they have purchased the land and building that was a Target at Midwest Blvd and Reno. That was over a year ago and nothing has happened though, so who knows?
C. T.

I would love love love it if that location reopened as a Crest or WinCo. Either option would immediately make that store become my default grocer, even though Walmart is closer.

For some reason I thought I heard that Integris was looking to expand medical offices and that was their reason for closing. However, when I heard that....it may have been more speculation of why closing as it wouldn't be up for sale now.

For what it's worth, the county assessor's office still shows that Target owns that entire building at 800 SW 44th St, and I can find no publicly available listings for lease or for sale... Someone like Pete or AnguisHerba may have greater insight on plans for the property.

I hate to say it, but that is a section of town I try to avoid these days. . Absolutely depressing.

Autozone has signed a lease to take a good chunk of the old Target space.

Will be a huge store for Autozone.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/autozone.jpg

Autozone has signed a lease to take a good chunk of the old Target space.

Will be a huge store for Autozone.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/autozone.jpg


Plenty of floor space! I am sure they will be able to stock wiper blades for both manual and automatic transmission cars.

Looking through their real estate development brochure, their typical store is about 6,300 SF.

Will be very interesting to see what they do with 7X that amount of space.

Plenty of floor space! I am sure they will be able to stock wiper blades for both manual and automatic transmission cars.
Yes and they shouldn’t run out of blinker fluid so everyone who lives in this areas has no excuse now not to use their blinkers.

Looking through their real estate development brochure, their typical store is about 6,300 SF.

Will be very interesting to see what they do with 7X that amount of space.

Maybe they are going to have rental garage space for DIY'ers that don't have their own DIY space and tools. ;)

wow... that's huge for an autozone. i think the southwest corner of that building once had a couple of garage bays... i wonder if they'll put those to use again.

really glad something is being done with that building.

Maybe they are going to have rental garage space for DIY'ers that don't have their own DIY space and tools. ;)

hmm... i hadn't considered the diy angle. that's a real possibility. though i'd think that liability and scheduling might be an issue if that is their plan.

hmm... i hadn't considered the diy angle. that's a real possibility. though i'd think that liability and scheduling might be an issue if that is their plan.

Well I meant it as a joke but after I typed it I thought "Hey? Could something like that work?".

Well I meant it as a joke but after I typed it I thought "Hey? Could something like that work?".

I remember back in the day driving around down in Texas with a buddy and had car trouble. He was a fair shade tree kinda guy, everyone was back then when you could work on cars. Anyways we actually did pull in a place that rented out space for repairs and had tools avail. also. I can't remember what we ended up repairing but it was pretty major. This would have been in the 70s back when Austin was smaller than OKC and Dallas wasn't a whole lot bigger than what OKC is now and OKC and San Antonio were about the same size. After thinking a bit we replaced plugs and wires changed oil and pretty sure had to put a tie rod on.

They may be only using some of this space for sales and the rest as sort of a local distribution center.

Yes and they shouldn’t run out of blinker fluid so everyone who lives in this areas has no excuse now not to use their blinkers.

Haven't you heard?. Blinkers are optional on late model cars & trucks.

Haven't you heard?. Blinkers are optional on late model cars & trucks.

Ah yes. I forgot. Now that I think about it, I believe mirrors are optional as well.

hmm... i hadn't considered the diy angle. that's a real possibility. though i'd think that liability and scheduling might be an issue if that is their plan.

Didn't someone try that here in OKC a few years ago? Rental garage/tool space? Great idea for Autozone to try. I've wished more than once I had a lift even for the small projects I'll try on my car.

Didn't someone try that here in OKC a few years ago? Rental garage/tool space? Great idea for Autozone to try. I've wished more than once I had a lift even for the small projects I'll try on my car.

the only thing that i can think of like that was a place called ohmspace around film row... but it was geared more for tinkerers than mechanics.

There used to be a place on 59th just west of I35 on the southside of the road where Rick's Collision Center is now that rented garage space and tools called U Fix it. Had a mechanic on duty that would give advice. This would have been in the late 70's

Ft. Sill has a place where military personnel can do work on their cars. I'm certain other Army bases have this as well.

https://sill.armymwr.com/programs/auto-crafts-center

Notice the hours, makes sense though.

Ft Worth has an AutoZone repair center.

They may be only using some of this space for sales and the rest as sort of a local distribution center.

I work for for one of the motor oil vendors that supplies Autozone. This is going to be a local hub store. These are local distribution warehouse stores for large metro areas. It should have the same retail footprint as a regular Autozone store.

Just saw plans were released for Dollar Tree to take approximately 12,000 square feet of the old Target next to Ace for a store. Here is a Key Plan for the area they will occupy.

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It keeps getting worse.

It keeps getting worse.

You prefer blight over active retail?

You prefer blight over active retail?

I don't see that as the only alternative.

I don't see that as the only alternative.

So your objection is it being Dollar Tree then? Sorry, don't see Von Maur moving to that area.

So your objection is it being Dollar Tree then? Sorry, don't see Von Maur moving to that area.

Dollar Tree seems appropriate for this building.

I sure wish Target would build a store off I-44 close to the airport.

Dollar Tree seems appropriate for this building.

Dollar Tree. For when you just don't feel like getting all dressed up to go to Walmart. :Smiley181

There are plans for a trampoline park to take all the remaining space that had once been a Target. Autozone took a big chunk, as did Dollar Tree.

Glad to see this building pretty full but it's so sad to think just a few years ago there was both a Sears and Target at this intersection.

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/target062024a.jpg

I sure wish Target would build a store off I-44 close to the airport.

They need to build a super target near I44 and SW 104th.

They need to build a super target near I44 and SW 104th.

Exactly!

Exactly!
I'm kind of puzzled why Target didn't build a new store out that way. The closest Target to the Southside now is in Moore.

I find it strange Target didn't select another location in south OKC. I used to shop Target weekly. After they closed the south OKC location, I didn't shop at the Moore location for years and even now i only shop there a few times a year. WInco thought they would pull residents from south OKC in greater numbers than they do, as well.

I find it strange Target didn't select another location in south OKC. I used to shop Target weekly. After they closed the south OKC location, I didn't shop at the Moore location for years and even now i only shop there a few times a year. WInco thought they would pull residents from south OKC in greater numbers than they do, as well.

Agreed. I prefer Target over Walmart but there are too many lights and too much traffic between living by airport and Fritts Farm when there is a Walmart right here. Same with Costco....I can shoot up MacArthur to the west side Sams and not deal with Fritt Farms area