Some good news: they've paid all their property tax for 2019. Looks like most payments were made at the first of November.

Their website is also back on-line.

Still though, absolutely nothing happening on those nearly 100 lots:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/strawberry112820a.jpg

Some good news: they've paid all their property tax for 2019. Looks like most payments were made at the first of November.

Their website is also back on-line.

Still though, absolutely nothing happening on those nearly 100 lots:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/strawberry112820a.jpg

'She has acquired 278 lots, more than 75 percent of the properties between the future Oklahoma City Boulevard, Shartel Avenue, Interstate 40 and the west boundary of Oklahoma City's Scissortail Park along Hudson Avenue.'

This is posted on thier website.

'She has acquired 278 lots, more than 75 percent of the properties between the future Oklahoma City Boulevard, Shartel Avenue, Interstate 40 and the west boundary of Oklahoma City's Scissortail Park along Hudson Avenue.'

This is posted on thier website.

So if she dies, her company goes bust, her money runs out (substitute them for her if she has partners), etc., won't all those lots be split up and sold off to whoever wants that specific part/lot and her consolidation would all be for naught? I just can't see the point of all her acquisitions if something like that happens.

Let's hope that no one dies, and I would assume that this would be a personal business partnership agreement scenario that none of us likely know the answer to this conceptual scenario.

My personal opinon : Let's not refer to local friends or leaders hypothetically "dying" OKCTalk. This is one of the stranger comments I have read in my time browsing here. This would be a tragedy.

I don't believe that anyone plans on dying or running out of money, but obviously, the partnership and future of the real estate would be at immediate risk.

^^^^

Let's hope that no one dies, and I would assume that this would be a personal business partnership agreement scenario that none of us likely know the answer to this conceptual scenario.

My personal opinon : Let's not refer to local friends or leaders hypothetically "dying" OKCTalk. This is one of the stranger comments I have read in my time browsing here. This would be a tragedy.

I don't believe that anyone plans on dying or running out of money, but obviously, the partnership and future of the real estate would be at immediate risk.

We all die and have to plan for the future, why ignore that? Think about what a mess Aubrey McClendon left when he (most likely) killed himself. I was just wondering if it was better or not that she's spent so much time buying all these lots, what if development on this site was hampered because she sat on everything forever and nothing ever happened and then it gets all split up again and ......?

We all die and have to plan for the future, why ignore that? Think about what a mess Aubrey McClendon left when he (most likely) killed himself. I was just wondering if it was better or not that she's spent so much time buying all these lots, what if development on this site was hampered because she sat on everything forever and nothing ever happened and then it gets all split up again and ......?

Aubrey’s affairs were going to be a mess whether he was dead or alive.

As for these lots, I’m sure the presumptive heirs wouldn’t hate inheriting that many prime lots and receiving a step-up in-basis to boot. Not the worst problem to have, imo.

So if she dies, her company goes bust, her money runs out (substitute them for her if she has partners), etc., won't all those lots be split up and sold off to whoever wants that specific part/lot and her consolidation would all be for naught? I just can't see the point of all her acquisitions if something like that happens.

If she dies and the property is owned by a corporate entity, the corporation lives on unless specific plans were otherwise laid out.

What if a meteor hits OKC? Will she own the crater. Or if she’s killed by the meteor will it be owned by 20 people?

What if a meteor hits OKC? Will she own the crater. Or if she’s killed by the meteor will it be owned by 20 people?
Also Rover:

Anyone who criticizes Edmond at all

* DONT CrItIciCiZe EdMOnD

Also Rover:

Anyone who criticizes Edmond at all

* DONT CrItIciCiZe EdMOnD
I criticize comments and worries that are without basis. I criticize spreading wrong information and amplification of wrong stereotypes of many things. I criticize misinformation based on agendas.

I criticize comments and worries that are without basis. I criticize spreading wrong information and amplification of wrong stereotypes of many things. I criticize misinformation based on agendas.

How old is Pat Salame?

I criticize comments and worries that are without basis. I criticize spreading wrong information and amplification of wrong stereotypes of many things. I criticize misinformation based on agendas.
No you’re just arrogant.

Double post

How old is Pat Salame?

It doesn't matter how old she is, what matters is her ability to develop next to a wonderful central park.

It doesn't matter how old she is, what matters is her ability to develop next to a wonderful central park.

Which is completely in question.

Which is completely in question.

:congrats:

No you’re just arrogant.

So, having knowledge, experience, and context of situations and disputing wild, unsubstantiated or uninformed statements is arrogant in your book? We have a bunch of arrogant posters on this site then. And, we have a lot of people who just speculate and throw out stuff.

Which is completely in question.

I wish I could disagree. I am rooting for her though, come on Pat, just one development of substance! Just one lot with construction equipment on it.

I wish I could disagree. I am rooting for her though, come on Pat, just one development of substance! Just one lot with construction equipment on it.

Absolutely, me too, that was kind of my point - I really want this (or some form of it) to succeed, but nothing is giving me warm fuzzies about it at all, it's just a bunch of land at this point.

We'll see if the city can strike a deal for the soccer stadium.

If not, then I don't think anything is going to happen here for a long time.

We'll see if the city can strike a deal for the soccer stadium.

If not, then I don't think anything is going to happen here for a long time.

I seem to remember a lot of talk at the MAPS 4 council meetings from the council members and the public that the stadium should be on "the south side."

I seem to remember a lot of talk at the MAPS 4 council meetings from the council members and the public that the stadium should be on "the south side."

All the property in Strawberry Fields is on the southside. Reno is the dividing line.

But yes, there has been a lot of talk of putting it south of I-40 which may still happen.

The old Producers Coop is another obvious choice, albeit an expensive one.

'She has acquired 278 lots, more than 75 percent of the properties between the future Oklahoma City Boulevard, Shartel Avenue, Interstate 40 and the west boundary of Oklahoma City's Scissortail Park along Hudson Avenue.'

This is posted on thier website.

This might help explain some of the difference in lot number: I learned when I lived in the near north side in the 1990s that lots in the central city were usually very narrow in the early days of OKC. Something like 20-25 feet wide by 100-150 feet deep, as I recall. So, an average house in Heritage Hills East or Mesta Park might be on 4 lots. I'm guessing this area is set up the same.

It may be 278 lots but it's listed in the county assessor as under 100 separate properties.

Often, properties are comprised of more than one platted lot, my own home included.

"Guest said:
Is Strawberry Fields still happening?

Steve Lackmeyer replied:
They tell me yes, it is still happening. I hope to have a detailed update soon."

"They tell me..." - hilarious

"Guest said:
Is Strawberry Fields still happening?

Steve Lackmeyer replied:
They tell me yes, it is still happening. I hope to have a detailed update soon."


His go to response anytime he doesn't know anything is, "I hope to have a detailed update soon."

His go to response anytime he doesn't know anything is, "I hope to have a detailed update soon."

So, what would you prefer? That he makes something up?

His go to response anytime he doesn't know anything is, "I hope to have a detailed update soon."

Or “look for my upcoming article on it” subscribers only of course.

So, what would you prefer? That he makes something up?

I wouldn't mind his typical response, if he ever actually obtained an update. Otherwise, just say it, you don't know anything and aren't going to find anything out.

Well, it's not like he can reply "I'll have an update as soon as I can read about it on OKCTALK".

He doesn't know how to go get information (and/or is too lazy to do so), he merely waits until someone with whom he's cultivated a friendly relationship feeds him something they want in the press, which he then publishes without question or context. Or, he sits on our social media feeds and then tries to replicate something we break (without providing customary credit), then puts it behind a paywall. He also routinely plagiarizes press releases, which I've documented many times.

We answer every single question here -- I go to great trouble to hunt down info on even the smallest projects -- and of course usually are first with anything truly new.

From Lackmeyer's chat today:

Guest said:
Will Strawberry Fields break ground this year?Do you know the timetable for that?

Steve Lackmeyer replied:
There is ongoing work and planning. Is it possible we might see work begin later this year on one of the proposed projects? Maybe. I'm still hoping to do an update soon.

It's always "update soon".

It's always "update soon".

He's going to issue his Health Plan in two weeks.

He's going to issue his Health Plan in two weeks.
lol. “soon”

It would be nice to see some private development around the park.

Global firm to help develop offices, housing, retail west of Oklahoma City's Scissortail Park (https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/03/11/scissortail-park-neighborhood-include-housing-retail-hotels-and-offices-downtown-okc/6928909002/)


A global real estate firm is joining up with local investors hoping to build a mix of housing, offices, restaurants and retail on dozens of blighted blocks west of Scissortail Park.

Chicago-based JLL has offices in 80 countries and in addition to design and development, the firm also represents institutional and retail investors and high income clients.

Michael Swaldi, senior managing director of Jll's land practice group, said the firm will help envision, build and finance Strawberry Fields and "where applicable" sell individual parcels of Strawberry Fields to other developers.

... (https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/03/11/scissortail-park-neighborhood-include-housing-retail-hotels-and-offices-downtown-okc/6928909002/)

^

Hooray!

Hopefully this project will start to move forward.

This is a hi-res image taken Saturday. Open in a new tab to see detail:

HTTP://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/strawberry052921a.jpg

Heyyy, I can see our vendor tent from here.

I didn't realize how much of a chunk the Cusack's meats "parking" across the street from their building took out of the lower park until this pic...

I sent them an email about the current status. Their website seems to be fairly updated and they added some new details about specific uses of the "Marketplace" building proposal which will be a renovated building. I really hope this project(s) can gain some steam.

https://www.strawberryfieldsok.com/

I sent them an email about the current status. Their website seems to be fairly updated and they added some new details about specific uses of the "Marketplace" building proposal which will be a renovated building. I really hope this project(s) can gain some steam.

https://www.strawberryfieldsok.com/

It perfect timing if they start now. In a year or two the conferences bill be in full swing, and the lower park to the river will be open.

Regarding Cusack's. I hope that they will one day sell that land and it will be developed or the city will build a lower sissortail playground in that area that will anchor the lower park. I hope I live long enough to see it happen.

http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/strawberryfields082221a.jpg

Do we know what's going on here? Apologies if this is covered elsewhere, and if so please move to that thread, but when I was on the Walker protected lane Monday I noticed that these buildings had been demolished (didn't get a pic but might still have footage on my bike cam).

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Do we know what's going on here? Apologies if this is covered elsewhere, and if so please move to that thread, but when I was on the Walker protected lane Monday I noticed that these buildings had been demolished (didn't get a pic but might still have footage on my bike cam).

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Part of Strawberry Fields.

So they're just clearing the land to have barren (strawberry) fields?

(would kind of prefer they use the money they're spending to demolish properties to get some kind of project going on an already cleared bit of land)

So they're just clearing the land to have barren (strawberry) fields?

Yes, it's exactly what they've been doing with every property they own in that area.

so the entire block on the north-west corner of walker and SW 5th has been completely razed to the ground. bulldozers and other heavy duty equipment remain on site. i've tried to look for any projects proposed for this site but haven't found any yet. i wonder what exactly is the site being prep'ed for???

so the entire block on the north-west corner of walker and SW 5th has been completely razed to the ground. bulldozers and other heavy duty equipment remain on site. i've tried to look for any projects proposed for this site but haven't found any yet. i wonder what exactly is the site being prep'ed for???

They have been systematically tearing down everything in that area.

They are planning to renovate a few old warehouses along SW 3rd, but beyond that pretty much everything else will be scraped even though it will take decades to fully build out this project.

I'm sure a huge part of it is liability due to people breaking in and then when it turns cold, the homeless light fires which often result in big blazes.

Strawberry Fields for never...

I haven't looked through this entire thread, but has anything been mentioned about the historic bohemian hall that is now the fountain of faith church? That would be a shame to lose, and it's such a small lot that could easily be kept. I know OKC loves bulldozing historic buildings though, and it's an old wooden structure...

I haven't looked through this entire thread, but has anything been mentioned about the historic bohemian hall that is now the fountain of faith church? That would be a shame to lose, and it's such a small lot that could easily be kept. I know OKC loves bulldozing historic buildings though, and it's an old wooden structure...

That is one of the very few properties in the area that the Strawberry Fields group does not own.

Also, that church is within design review borders so nothing could be done to it without proper review, including public input.

I love that building and hope it just carries on when and if this development starts to take shape.

https://docs.oklahomacounty.org/AssessorWP5/ShowImage.asp?Propertyid=42124

Work to start on first project in Strawberry Fields (https://www.okctalk.com/content.php?r=744-Work-to-start-on-first-project-in-Strawberry-Fields)

Design plans have been submitted for the first project in the massive Strawberry Fields development just to the west of Scissortail Park in downtown Oklahoma City.



http://www.okctalk.com/images/pete/716sw3rd5.jpg

A local investment group has systematically acquired nearly 300 lots near the new park and is planning a large mixed-use development.

Plans show the intent to renovate two historic brick buildings at 716 and 726 SW 3rd; a small structure between the two would be demolished to create a plaza. New space would be created for a bar, restaurant and other commercial uses.

MA+ Architecture is performing the design work.


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I wish they were starting closer to the park. Build on the active use in that area by creating additional attractions within non-intimidating walking distance.

I mean, I'd walk that far, but I'm willing to walk by empty fields and warehouses. Random park-goers aren't even going to know there's stuff to visit that many blocks over and probably wouldn't walk the unfriendly route if they knew.

They are mandated by the sales agreement with the city to start relatively soon on the old Goodwill parcel on the boulevard immediately west of the park.

We should see some plan for that in the near future.

They are mandated by the sales agreement with the city to start relatively soon on the old Goodwill parcel on the boulevard immediately west of the park.

We should see some plan for that in the near future.

they have to know that a home run on this plot will kick start the entire development .

They are mandated by the sales agreement with the city to start relatively soon on the old Goodwill parcel on the boulevard immediately west of the park.

We should see some plan for that in the near future.

That helps.

Thinking a bit more on what we are seeing here, I also wish there was a bit more building frontage right up against the park, less of those semi-suburban setbacks.